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Allen Park -- Daunte Culpepper says he feels like a rookie again. He looks like one, too, having dropped 30 pounds from the 290-plus he carried with him out of semi-retirement last fall to start for the Lions at quarterback.

"My whole mind-set this offseason was to get myself in the best shape I can," Culpepper said Friday, looking sharp and in command as the team's first mandatory mini-camp kicked off under head coach Jim Schwartz. "It's kind of funny -- and everybody's getting evaluated -- but I feel like I'm kind of coming out of the draft again, believe it or not. It's kind of strange, but I feel like with the sense that everybody's proving themselves here, everybody's starting from scratch, it's kind of like, 'Hey, it's the beginning again.' It's like my rookie year again. I'm very excited."

Still, he's well aware that another rookie -- possibly Matthew Stafford if he's the No. 1 overall pick in next weekend's draft -- could be joining him soon in Allen Park, where owner William Clay Ford Sr. was among Friday's interested observers.

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Reuniting with offensive coordinator Scott Linehan, whose offense he ran with the Minnesota Vikings in his best years from 2002-04, doesn't hurt, either.

"Being with somebody you've been around, and looking at their offense and their schemes, it's kind of like my planets are getting aligned," Culpepper said. "It just makes sense to me. I think we can do some great things. But even though I know him, it's not like I can relax or anything. It's all about me showing -- re-showing -- who I am and what I can do."

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Given his best -- and perhaps final -- chance to win the starting quarterback job with the Jets, Kellen Clemens has made quite a first impression on new coach Rex Ryan

For the second straight day, Clemens outgunned Brett Ratliff in their much-anticipated minicamp matchup. In the process, Clemens may be easing the Jets' concerns about uncertainty at the position heading into next Saturday's NFL Draft.

"I thought Clemens looked sharp today," Ryan said Friday in between practices at Florham Park. "I really liked how he took charge of that offense today. He really brought that unit out. The tempo that they had. They had a lot of spark to them. He made some good decisions. He showed poise. He had some pressure in his face.

"Now, like (safety) Jim Leonhard told me, 'Come on, Rex, one good hit. Let us rattle him a couple of times.' I said, 'I don't know, guys, he had your number today.'"

Overall, Clemens completed eight of 12 passes and Ratliff connected on five of seven in 11-on-11 drills. But Clemens was much sharper and decisive with his reads and throws, even though the Jets were installing new plays.

Ratliff, who threw three interceptions on the first day but none Friday, repeatedly checked down to the running backs and displayed a tendency to lock onto receivers at times.

Again, both quarterbacks worked with the first team, with Clemens doing so in the morning and going against the first-team defense.

"Ratty (Ratliff) made some great throws," Ryan said. "He has a talented arm. But he still made a couple of mistakes in there. I'm sure that (the competition) will be going back and forth. Clearly, Clemens had an outstanding day today."

For Clemens, a second-round pick in 2006, this is likely his last hurrah with the Jets. He failed to unseat or seriously challenge Chad Pennington. Last summer, he was outplayed by Ratliff in training camp and narrowly held onto the No. 2 job.

"I think if you're in a competition like this every snap you're trying to show whoever is evaluating you, from your teammates all the way up to the general manager, that you've worked hard and you deserve an opportunity to go out there and play on Sunday," Clemens said.

In 2007, Clemens went 3-5 in eight starts as the Jets finished 4-12. His performance was uneven and underwhelming but many in the organization gave him a mulligan because he was playing behind a weak offensive line.

Now, Clemens has a chance to play behind a top-notch offensive line and for a coach who has vowed to play smashmouth football. He'll be asked to not lose games rather than win them.

"It's been good progress out there," Clemens said. "We have some new wrinkles we're putting in. I would say we're pleased but never satisfied."

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Whatever with the Clemens/Ratliff thing, making a handful of throws in MINI-camp...on a team that wants to play smashmouth and ask him "not to lose" games....whoopie.

But Culpepper on the other hand -- that's a lot of weight he lost and he sounds like he really wants one more crack at it. Familiarity with Linehan doesn't hurt either...

 
Culpepper is a great gamble pick. You can get him for absolutely nothing in trades. The odds are he won't do anything next season but for how cheap he's going, it's certainly a worthy gamble.

 
AnonymousBob said:
Culpepper is a great gamble pick. You can get him for absolutely nothing in trades. The odds are he won't do anything next season but for how cheap he's going, it's certainly a worthy gamble.
This is a redraft thread, Bill.
 
If CPep can look decent enough to convince the staff he might be startable for the next few years, this draft will look a lot different than many think. And I'd love it.

 
Whatever with the Clemens/Ratliff thing, making a handful of throws in MINI-camp...on a team that wants to play smashmouth and ask him "not to lose" games....whoopie. But Culpepper on the other hand -- that's a lot of weight he lost and he sounds like he really wants one more crack at it. Familiarity with Linehan doesn't hurt either...
Warren Sapp lost 50 pounds a couple of years ago. It's hard to do but does it translate to throwing TD passes accurately? He didn't throw that well after Randy Moss left.
 
Did His hands grow at all in the offseason? Don't forget he was good in Minny when he would close his eyes and throw the ball as far as he could and The Freak would go get it. HE IS DONE!!

 
Did His hands grow at all in the offseason? Don't forget he was good in Minny when he would close his eyes and throw the ball as far as he could and The Freak would go get it. HE IS DONE!!
Umm, I agree with one notable exception. Meagtron > the FreakPeace
 
Whatever with the Clemens/Ratliff thing, making a handful of throws in MINI-camp...on a team that wants to play smashmouth and ask him "not to lose" games....whoopie. But Culpepper on the other hand -- that's a lot of weight he lost and he sounds like he really wants one more crack at it. Familiarity with Linehan doesn't hurt either...
Warren Sapp lost 50 pounds a couple of years ago. It's hard to do but does it translate to throwing TD passes accurately? He didn't throw that well after Randy Moss left.
Who said it was just about the weight? And he has someone to throw to...
 
Calvin Johnson looks incredible but Randy Moss is one of the most gifted wr's to ever play the game of football. Let's not induct Calvin into the Hall quite yet.

 
Calvin Johnson looks incredible but Randy Moss is one of the most gifted wr's to ever play the game of football. Let's not induct Calvin into the Hall quite yet.
Yeah, but he ended his post with "peace." That's message board for dropping the mic and walking off stage. You're not allowed to respond to that.
 
Whatever with the Clemens/Ratliff thing, making a handful of throws in MINI-camp...on a team that wants to play smashmouth and ask him "not to lose" games....whoopie.
Some deep leagues are looking for ANY starters even as backups.... In the mock forum, the 16 team ssv's could use the info.Plus, you never know. Heck, people looking at the NFL draft, if Clemens looked like complete ### you might lock in Josh Freeman or someone at the 17 pick.I appreciate the info. :popcorn:
 

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