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Clemens accused of doping by Grimsley

Pettitte, Tejada, 3 others named by ex-mate Grimsley

By Lance Pugmire and Tim Brown

Tribune newspapers

September 30, 2006, 10:20 PM CDT

Roger Clemens, one of professional baseball's most durable and successful pitchers, is among six players a former teammate has accused of using performance-enhancing drugs, the Los Angeles Times has learned. The names had been blacked out in an affidavit filed in federal court.

Others whose identities had been concealed include Clemens' fellow Houston Astros pitcher, Andy Pettitte, and former American League Most Valuable Player Miguel Tejada of the Baltimore Orioles.

The discovery ends four months of speculation surrounding the possible identities of Major League Baseball figures whose names were redacted from a search warrant affidavit filed May 31 in Phoenix. The document was based on statements made to federal agents by pitcher Jason Grimsley.

Grimsley, a journeyman relief pitcher whose career began with the Philadelphia Phillies in 1989, has played for seven organizations, including the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Angels and Orioles.

Grimsley acknowledged using steroids, amphetamines and other drugs, investigators said in the document. He also implicated a number of former teammates, but the names were blacked out in copies of the affidavit that were made public in June after investigators used the warrant to raid Grimsley's house.

A source with authorized access to an unredacted affidavit allowed the Los Angeles Times to see it but retained it to read back what had been blacked out of the public copies. A second source and confidant of Grimsley previously had disclosed player identities and provided details about the affidavit. The sources insisted on anonymity.

According to the affidavit, Grimsley told investigators that Clemens and Pettitte "used athletic performance-enhancing drugs." He also said Tejada used anabolic steroids.

Clemens and Pettitte did not respond to requests for comment made Saturday through their agents and the Astros. Tejada previously had declined to be interviewed.

Grimsley was detained after he allegedly received an illegal shipment of human growth hormone. The shipment was tracked to his Scottsdale, Ariz., home by a task force of federal agents investigating drug use in professional baseball, the affidavit said.

For a time, Grimsley cooperated with investigators, they said, but stopped after retaining a lawyer.

According to the 20-page search warrant affidavit signed by IRS Special Agent Jeff Novitzky, Grimsley told investigators he obtained amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormones from a source recommended to him by former Yankees trainer Brian McNamee.

The former team trainer is a personal strength coach for both Clemens and Pettitte.

McNamee did not return multiple messages left with his wife and on his answering machine.

The affidavit also alleges Grimsley told federal agents his former Oriole teammates—Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons—"took anabolic steroids." Roberts was the American League's All-Star second baseman in 2005 when Grimsley was an Oriole.

All three Baltimore players declined to be interviewed. Roberts said he had "nothing to talk about" and didn't know why Grimsley named him.

A sixth player, retired outfielder David Segui, previously came forward to say his name was among those blacked out in the affidavit provided to the public. Segui told ESPN in June that he used HGH on the advice of his doctor as recently as the 2004 season.

At the time, baseball had not banned steroids. Nor would their use be illegal under a doctor's supervision.

Government officials have declined to comment about their ongoing investigation of drugs in professional baseball.

Clemens, a seven-time Cy Young Award winner who came out of retirement to pitch for the Astros the last two seasons, was a teammate of Grimsley on the Yankees in 1999 and 2000, as was Pettitte, a two-time All-Star who is nearing 200 career victories. Grimsley, Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts were teammates in Baltimore during the 2005 season.

Grimsley started this year with the Arizona Diamondbacks but requested voluntary retirement in June after his arrest. The National League also suspended him for 50 games.

Edward Novak, Grimsley's lawyer, did not return calls. Previously, he publicly disputed the claims investigators made in the affidavit, saying that his client did not volunteer the names of any teammates.

Novak said federal agents asked Grimsley to wear a recording device to gather evidence against San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds, but Grimsley refused.

Grimsley has not been charged. Since June, he has complained to friends that federal agents credited him with statements and disclosures he didn't make.

"Jason is loyal to the death, a hard-headed guy who would not give up his friends," one of Grimsley's friends said Saturday.

"The only names he discussed with those investigators were names [the investigators] suggested to him."

The Grimsley friend, who talked about the investigation on condition that he not be named, said investigators warned the pitcher "if he didn't continue to cooperate, they would expose him as a rat."

Richard Levin, a spokesman for Major League Baseball, said the organization and players association are "doing everything we can to eliminate the use of performance-enhancing substances and amphetamines from the game."

Regarding the investigators' affidavit, Levin said baseball officials have "no information [about] how it was obtained or its accuracy."

Clemens has surprised many in the baseball world with his late-career success. Of his 348 career wins, 68 have come since the summer he turned 40. In a controversial tell-all book released two winters ago, former major-leaguer Jose Canseco speculated Clemens' late-career surge reflected "classic signs" of steroid use.

"Roger says it is all nonsense," Clemens' agent Randy Hendricks responded to Newsday then. He said the pitcher "takes vitamin B-12 shots and will pass every [drug] test."

Pettitte, 34, pitched nine seasons and was a part of four World Series championships for the Yankees, then signed with the Astros after the 2003 season, helping Houston advance to the World Series in 2005, and winning 13 more games this year for a career record of 185-104.

Tejada, listed at 5 feet 10 inches ans 170 pounds, hit 30 home runs for the first time in 2000 for the Oakland A's, and is one of the game's best middle-infield power hitters.

He was drawn into baseball's steroids scandal last August, when Rafael Palmeiro, who tested positive for an anabolic steroid and was suspended 10 games, told an appeals panel the test might have resulted from injectable vitamins Tejada had given him. After investigating, the panel cleared Tejada.

Tejada's increasingly sullen demeanor has attracted hometown media coverage in Baltimore, where he also has become a target of complaints from fans for not hustling.

During the summer, Tejada canceled an interview for this story. "I don't want to talk to you," he said. Later, Tejada referred a reporter to his agent, Diego Bentz, who did not return calls.

Outfielder Gibbons spent late June on the disabled list rehabbing a knee injury in Scottsdale. But on July 5, his father, Jim, acknowledged the player was aware of the affidavit.

"Is this about Grimsley?" the elder Gibbons asked of a visiting Los Angeles Times reporter. "I'm not saying anything about it. I'll let him know you stopped by."

Roberts, listed at 5-9 and 170 pounds, hit 18 home runs in 561 at-bats last season, matching his combined total through the previous six years in the major and minor leagues.

Grimsley, a right-hander, told investigators he had used anabolic steroids beginning in 2000, tested positive during 2003 survey testing and switched to human growth hormone, undetectable in a urine test, after that. He admitted also to using amphetamines until the players union and MLB agreed jointly to ban them several months ago, according to the affidavit.

Grimsley told investigators he had tested positive for steroids during baseball's survey testing in 2003 and that he, like others, had switched to HGH as a result, the affidavit said.

Baseball's steroid scandal, which grew from the federal investigation of the Bay Area Laboratory Cooperative, appears to have broadened.

According to the affidavit, Grimsley also told agents about doctors in Florida and Colorado who have provided drugs to ballplayers. The federal task force handling the probe is headed by Novitzky.

MLB has set up a board of inquiry headed by former U.S. Sen. George Mitchell of Maine to investigate steroid use among ballplayers. That investigation has been criticized as slow-moving and weak. Key figures, including retired slugger Mark McGwire, reportedly have declined to participate.

The baseball investigators cannot compel testimony.

 
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Not a surprise, most baseball "people" have suspected Clemens for the past 8 years. Petite, however, is a surprise.

 
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Well I hope something comes of this. I have thought Clemens to be guilty for a while now and if he is I hope they get him. What will the Roger apologists say if this is ever proven to be true. What a black mark on his Hall of Fame career.

Tejada also seems very guilty to me.

 
With how buddy-buddy they make Clemens and Pettitte out the be, his name surfacing does not shock me at all.

 
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN said:
TitusIII said:
Not a surprise, most baseball "people" have suspected Clemens for the past 8 years. Petite, however, is a surprise.
I agree, Pettitte's name shocked me almost as much as the number of 't's in his last name, and the amount of makeup he wears on gameday. ;)
Doesnt shock me. Him and Clemens are bosom buddies and worked out together.
 
so is everybody going to call for ** and losing cy youngs and keeping him out of the hall like the Bonds haters??

 
Doesn't shock me at all. There's not a single person in baseball, if found to have used steroids, that would shock me. It shouldn't anyone else either. If you guys wanna play blindmen, go walk with the shepard. My eyes are wide open.

 
Jules Winfield said:
Anybody think Clemens name will show up anywhere?That little retirement he went through was a little "Jordanesque"
I have always said that people jumped out and accused Bonds when he "all of a sudden" started hitting HRs.Why did people turn a blind eye to Clemens when he all of a sudden started dominating again?Let's see:2002 4.35 ERA 180 IP 172 H 40 years old2003 3.91 ERA 211 IP 199 H 41 2004 2.98 ERA 214 IP 169 H 42 2005 1.87 ERA 211 IP 151 H 43He starts dominating as a pitcher at the age of 42 but nobody blinks an eye? Are you F!n kidding me? ARE YOU ####### kidding me? Performance enhancing now comes as a surprise to baseball? Wasn't it Peter Gammons, before his stroke, that said a certain Astro, and ONE WHO WOULD CRIPPLE BASEBALL, tested positive for enhancing drugs? Funny that that name never came out because the Palmiero scandal had just taken place and the Bonds fiasco was just starting. I'm not stupid. Bonds was on the juice. I know it and we all know it. Why is Clemens protected? Why didn't everybody scream bloody murder when Clemens started dominating at such an older age? There was no Clemens scandal going on was there? Oh that's right...he had that momentary "Jordanesque" retirement didn't he? Face it. This man was a juice head just as bad as Bonds was. Just as bad as McGwire was. Just as bad as Palmiero was. Why wasn't Clemens dragged across the coals? Bonds has and is still being prosecuted. Why hasn't Clemens? Will he be attacked like Bonds was? I seriously doubt it. Is it racism? I'm just asking...
 
Jules Winfield said:
Anybody think Clemens name will show up anywhere?That little retirement he went through was a little "Jordanesque"
I have always said that people jumped out and accused Bonds when he "all of a sudden" started hitting HRs.Why did people turn a blind eye to Clemens when he all of a sudden started dominating again?Let's see:2002 4.35 ERA 180 IP 172 H 40 years old2003 3.91 ERA 211 IP 199 H 41 2004 2.98 ERA 214 IP 169 H 42 2005 1.87 ERA 211 IP 151 H 43He starts dominating as a pitcher at the age of 42 but nobody blinks an eye? Are you F!n kidding me? ARE YOU ####### kidding me? Performance enhancing now comes as a surprise to baseball? Wasn't it Peter Gammons, before his stroke, that said a certain Astro, and ONE WHO WOULD CRIPPLE BASEBALL, tested positive for enhancing drugs? Funny that that name never came out because the Palmiero scandal had just taken place and the Bonds fiasco was just starting. I'm not stupid. Bonds was on the juice. I know it and we all know it. Why is Clemens protected? Why didn't everybody scream bloody murder when Clemens started dominating at such an older age? There was no Clemens scandal going on was there? Oh that's right...he had that momentary "Jordanesque" retirement didn't he? Face it. This man was a juice head just as bad as Bonds was. Just as bad as McGwire was. Just as bad as Palmiero was. Why wasn't Clemens dragged across the coals? Bonds has and is still being prosecuted. Why hasn't Clemens? Will he be attacked like Bonds was? I seriously doubt it. Is it racism? I'm just asking...
The media creates monsters. Bonds was always tough with the media, so they attacked him every chance they got. This isn't a race thing in my opinion.
 
Plus people attributed a lot (far too much) of Clemens' success on moving to the NL. Facing weaker competition is one thing; cutting your ERA in half is something quite different. Thing is, where were those numbers with the Yankees? If you look at his two seasons in Toronto, they were Cy Young, pitching triple crown seasons. Then he comes to the Yankees, and while he did win a Cy Young he never put up silly numbers. Then he leaves NY and goes nuts in Houston again. I'm not saying he was clean as a Yankee, but what possible explanation is there for the drop-off in stats while here?

Oh and I've long said that Clemens and Pettitte are probably roiders, as well as Tino Martinez, from those Yankee clubs.

 
Jules Winfield said:
Anybody think Clemens name will show up anywhere?That little retirement he went through was a little "Jordanesque"
I have always said that people jumped out and accused Bonds when he "all of a sudden" started hitting HRs.Why did people turn a blind eye to Clemens when he all of a sudden started dominating again?Let's see:2002 4.35 ERA 180 IP 172 H 40 years old2003 3.91 ERA 211 IP 199 H 41 2004 2.98 ERA 214 IP 169 H 42 2005 1.87 ERA 211 IP 151 H 43He starts dominating as a pitcher at the age of 42 but nobody blinks an eye? Are you F!n kidding me? ARE YOU ####### kidding me? Performance enhancing now comes as a surprise to baseball? Wasn't it Peter Gammons, before his stroke, that said a certain Astro, and ONE WHO WOULD CRIPPLE BASEBALL, tested positive for enhancing drugs? Funny that that name never came out because the Palmiero scandal had just taken place and the Bonds fiasco was just starting. I'm not stupid. Bonds was on the juice. I know it and we all know it. Why is Clemens protected? Why didn't everybody scream bloody murder when Clemens started dominating at such an older age? There was no Clemens scandal going on was there? Oh that's right...he had that momentary "Jordanesque" retirement didn't he? Face it. This man was a juice head just as bad as Bonds was. Just as bad as McGwire was. Just as bad as Palmiero was. Why wasn't Clemens dragged across the coals? Bonds has and is still being prosecuted. Why hasn't Clemens? Will he be attacked like Bonds was? I seriously doubt it. Is it racism? I'm just asking...
The media creates monsters. Bonds was always tough with the media, so they attacked him every chance they got. This isn't a race thing in my opinion.
Case in point: Giambi.
 
It still didn't help Clemens and Andy the Clown when they got their ears boxed in the '05 World Series.

:lmao: :football:
Andy The Clown left us long before the '05 World Series and I highly doubt he was using performance enhancing drugs.GOOOOOOOO YOUUUUUUUUUUU WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXX
I was talking about Andy Pettitte, who wears enough mascara and rouge to look like a clown.I'm must shocked that he's involved in this, as he is supposed to be Mr. Righteous.

If indeed Pettitte and Clemens are implicated, I don't think that Yankees World Series run is quite that impressive anymore. Just a couple more cheaters like Giambi and Sheffield.

 
doctor Gunks said:
I can't believe nobody's accused Jermaine Dye yet. :shrug:
Especially since his power numbers started to surge AFTER steriod testing.It's amazing what happens when a guy doesn't play a bunch of 1/2 or 3/4 seasons. His numbers improve by 33 to 50%.

 
If indeed Pettitte and Clemens are implicated, I don't think that Yankees World Series run is quite that impressive anymore. Just a couple more cheaters like Giambi and Sheffield.
:rolleyes: I've said it all along, I suspect that most of the league was up to something, it wasn't just a few guys.Clemens is taking something that enables him to pitch fantastic up to and past his 40th birthday? Shocking.
 
so is everybody going to call for ** and losing cy youngs and keeping him out of the hall like the Bonds haters??
Yes
:goodposting:
Really, Im not feeling the outrage here. Granted we don't have the details and maybe proof we need yet but I haven't heard one person suggest that this could endanger Clemen's legacy. If this was Bonds, people would be advocating for him to be kicked out of the game by now.
 
so is everybody going to call for ** and losing cy youngs and keeping him out of the hall like the Bonds haters??
Yes
:goodposting:
Really, Im not feeling the outrage here. Granted we don't have the details and maybe proof we need yet but I haven't heard one person suggest that this could endanger Clemen's legacy. If this was Bonds, people would be advocating for him to be kicked out of the game by now.
I dont think there will be the outrage... but some of us certainly feel it. I dont see this as ANY different than Barry Bonds and I would treat them the same.
 
Do you guys remember that thread earlier in the year...hell it might've been last year...where there was a report that someone else would be implicated with Steroids and it was a major ambassador of the game...big huge name?

Most of us speculated it would be Clemens...yet nothing ever came out of that report...now we're starting to hear it...I have to think this was the player to be mentioned later when that leaked.

And yes...screw Clemens along with anyone else.

BUT...screw Bonds even more...the guy is breaking some of the most celebrated alltime records that have stood ceremoniously for a long time...add in the fact that he has always been an argumentative primadonna jack@zz with the media, fans and other players/teammates and you've got all the ingredients you need for the meatloaf that's cooking. It's got nothing to do with race.

As for Giambi...I think the guy should be run out of baseball...no way he's not still finding ways around that test but least he had the forethought to get infront of it a bit by admitting to his wrongdoing...whereas Bonds will never admit it, continues to fight it and has friends going to jail instead of selling his punk@zz out.

 
Do you guys remember that thread earlier in the year...hell it might've been last year...where there was a report that someone else would be implicated with Steroids and it was a major ambassador of the game...big huge name?Most of us speculated it would be Clemens...yet nothing ever came out of that report...now we're starting to hear it...I have to think this was the player to be mentioned later when that leaked.And yes...screw Clemens along with anyone else.BUT...screw Bonds even more...the guy is breaking some of the most celebrated alltime records that have stood ceremoniously for a long time...add in the fact that he has always been an argumentative primadonna jack@zz with the media, fans and other players/teammates and you've got all the ingredients you need for the meatloaf that's cooking. It's got nothing to do with race.As for Giambi...I think the guy should be run out of baseball...no way he's not still finding ways around that test but least he had the forethought to get infront of it a bit by admitting to his wrongdoing...whereas Bonds will never admit it, continues to fight it and has friends going to jail instead of selling his punk@zz out.
I remember that thread.Does anyone believe that Selig knew the test result but couldn't afford to have baseball take the hit AGAIN.Gammons reported that there was a test result of TWO players.We all said Clemens was one and some said Pujols was the other (Tejada was also mentioned) it was Clemens that was the really big name that was the "ambassador" or the BIG NAME.#### baseball. I have really tried to love this game but even still the use of performance enhancing drugs is pathetic. The testing is even worse. Do you remember how everybody scoffed Canseco when he said 80% of baseball was using?How does that figure look now?
 
After his resignation from the lowly Cubs organization, look for Andy McPhail to throw his hat in the running as the new Commissioner.

But wait a minute, isn't he the same ascot wearing schmuck who ignored Sammy Sosa's annual growth rate?

 
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so is everybody going to call for ** and losing cy youngs and keeping him out of the hall like the Bonds haters??
Why should they? Clemens is white. :shrug:
Right. Because that's the reason people jump on Bonds. Don't be stoopid.
Its not just because Bonds is black. But Bonds is a jerkoff and he happens to be black. That's not a good combination for sympathizers.Honestly though, this should be big news and this thread is only one page. If this was Bonds, it would be five pages of people wanting him to be kicked out of baseball by now.

I am really surprised people don't have more of a reaction to this, this is Huge.

 
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Wake me up when there is more to go on than the word of a scrub middle reliver. I don't care either way, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is true, but this is a LONG way from the mounds of evidence against Bonds. Wake me up when there is some grand jury testimony. I expect Bonds to end up in the pokey for tax evasion and/or perjury.

 
Wake me up when there is more to go on than the word of a scrub middle reliver. I don't care either way, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is true, but this is a LONG way from the mounds of evidence against Bonds. Wake me up when there is some grand jury testimony. I expect Bonds to end up in the pokey for tax evasion and/or perjury.
This is what people said about Canseco too and he was ultimately right.Where there is smoke there is fire and we are in the early stages of uncovering this.
 
Do you remember how everybody scoffed Canseco when he said 80% of baseball was using?How does that figure look now?
Like the playing field in which the player's achievements were accomplished was pretty level.That the few who failed to do everything they could to better themselves for their team should stop crying about those who did - after the fact.Steroids might be a bad thing, a bad example for pro athletes to set for younger athlete but if baseball is looking in another direction for almost its entire history allowing 80% of its players to use performance enhancing drugs then it is "holier then thou" :bs: to call the players that did what it takes to keep up cheaters. Performance enhancing drugs have been part of baseball's culture since the beginning, the only difference now is that today's versions are a lot more effective. Listen to the Mike Schmidts and the Bob Gibsons of the past who say they absolutely would have had given into the preasure of steroids - if they were around.Blame Baseball all you want for having one policy on paper and another in the clubhouse for recent players in years tarnishing the record books, but to continue to blame the players forced to decide whether they kept up or fell behind is wrong.
 
Do you guys remember that thread earlier in the year...hell it might've been last year...where there was a report that someone else would be implicated with Steroids and it was a major ambassador of the game...big huge name?Most of us speculated it would be Clemens...yet nothing ever came out of that report...now we're starting to hear it...I have to think this was the player to be mentioned later when that leaked.And yes...screw Clemens along with anyone else.BUT...screw Bonds even more...the guy is breaking some of the most celebrated alltime records that have stood ceremoniously for a long time...add in the fact that he has always been an argumentative primadonna jack@zz with the media, fans and other players/teammates and you've got all the ingredients you need for the meatloaf that's cooking. It's got nothing to do with race.As for Giambi...I think the guy should be run out of baseball...no way he's not still finding ways around that test but least he had the forethought to get infront of it a bit by admitting to his wrongdoing...whereas Bonds will never admit it, continues to fight it and has friends going to jail instead of selling his punk@zz out.
Clemens name is coming up yet again...it's really odd how many leaks involving his name have come up over the past two years but it seemed to go away before it even got started...
 

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