Cleveland needs to trade for Mikel Leshoure. (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

Anyone agree? It makes too much sense not to happen. Cleveland has to got to go Quarterback.

Try getting him for a 5th Rounder, swap thirds. Would instantly add a competent workhorse to your roster. He'd fit in great in the Dog Pound.

 

[Fariq]

Maybe

 

[Tool]

Do they need a 3rd string running back that can't play special teams? If so, they should trade for him.

 

[LBH]

Not sure he's any better than Edwin Baker

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

you must be a Lions fan. He sucks and is done. They could get a better RB in the 5th round.

 

[bmsarvis]

Dion lewis.

 

[lod01]

They can get a better RB in the draft middle to late rounds.

 

[domvin]

Why trade when you can get ben tate for zero compensation. Sure tate will have a higher cap number but hes better than leshoure.

I like dion lewis in his sproles type role next year as well

 

[Sake-Bombers]

Serious question here. Given recent success stories finding more-than-adequate RBs late, what is it about LeShoure that would make him a better option than a third-round or third-day RB?

 

[Riffraff]

Leshoure has a lot of knowledge that a rookie probably doesn't have, such as:

1. What rehabbing with the trainers is like

2. How/where to get weed in Detroit

3. How to interact with authority figures, such as the police

4. How the drug program in the NFL works

5. How not to get caught doing the same illegal act 3 times in a month

6. How to lose your job to back-ups in 10 easy steps

7. How not to drive when under the influence of MJ

8. Potty mouth - how to get it

He's flowing with knowledge and teams should invest heavily in him.

 

[msudaisy26]

Leshoure has a lot of knowledge that a rookie probably doesn't have, such as:

1. What rehabbing with the trainers is like

2. How/where to get weed in Detroit

3. How to interact with authority figures, such as the police

4. How the drug program in the NFL works

5. How not to get caught doing the same illegal act 3 times in a month

6. How to lose your job to back-ups in 10 easy steps

7. How not to drive when under the influence of MJ

8. Potty mouth - how to get it

He's flowing with knowledge and teams should invest heavily in him.

Nice post lol

 

[ShaHBucks]

Toby Gerhart

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Conditional 7th is the most he's worth. In final year of rookie contract.

Swapping 3rds is nuts.

There's a good chance no one in the league has interest in giving Lions anything for him & gets cut by Detroit. Already suspended for pot & shown little ability on the field. And new coaching staff in Detroit with zero ties to him.

 

[ghostguy123]

Considering he isnt worth the money he makes, the Lions should have to give up a pick for someone to take him off their hands.

 

[MAC_32]

A cost effective day three pick we can cheaply control for four years makes a lot more sense.

 

[FUBAR]

There will be better backs available after the draft, UDFA.

 

[Bri]

wow no one likes him here.

I didn't see him in 2014, but am a bit surprised by such certainty in the negativity here. Interesting really

 

[rascal]

Cleveland needs to horde draft picks and build the team.

 

[MAC_32]

wow no one likes him here.

I didn't see him in 2014, but am a bit surprised by such certainty in the negativity here. Interesting really

at his annual cost it isn't worth it for anyone but the lions unless he gets cut.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Curtis Enis unavailable?

 

[knowledge dropper]

So their entire roster can be in the NFL substance abuse program?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

wow no one likes him here.

I didn't see him in 2014, but am a bit surprised by such certainty in the negativity here. Interesting really

Most people didn't see him. He had 2 carries this season.

And looked decidedly mediocre in 2012, showing zero burst.

He's got 1 year left on his rookie contract. Why would anyone give anything for a RB that has no ST value and has shown next to nothing in the league? Again, when they can draft a player and have under team control, at cheaper salary, for 3-4 years....

 

[EBF]

No point giving up a pick for LeShoure when you get Tate or Gerhart off the street.

 

[Da Guru]

They can probably get LeShoure for nothing if they wait.

 

[Two Deep]

I thought Baker did a good job in the 3 games he played. Had a really nice game against a top 5 Jets run D. I hope Cleveland gives him an honest chance and not push him to the side because he isn't a big name early round draft choice. To me unless you have an Adrian Peterson can't miss type running back coming out of college teams should never waste a high draft pick on them. When it comes to the running back position there just isn't that much difference talent wise between early and late round picks.. I see Shanahan going after Tate for his 1cut run offensive scheme.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I think Leshoure is an under the radar guy who has a chance to resurrect his career on a different team. He fell out of favor with the Lions as they went a different direction. The signed Bush and gave Bell the Leshoure role from the year before. Bell averaged 3.9 ypc in that role this year. Leshoure averaged 3.7 ypc in that role the year before.

Leshoure after a redshirt rookie year due to tearing his achilles had just over 1000 yards of offense and 9 tds in only 14 games of action. He was reliable had a nose for the end zone. He caught 34 passes and has decent hands. I don't think it would be bad for another team to give this guy a look and see who Leshoure actually is. Watch this highlight package from his rookie year and maybe you will see Leshoure with a different side. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0M_PNAeylE

Keep in mind he was a good prospect coming into the league. There have been other rb's with slow starts that have turned around their careers in new situations.

Leshoure receives a lot of hate on these boards.

 

[cstu]

No point giving up a pick for LeShoure when you get Tate or Gerhart off the street.

Both would cost more than LeShoure. Given that he's in the last year of his contract I don't think he's worth more than a 7th. Detroit would be wise to take whatever they can get for him.

 

[eric rymer]

Dion lewis.

^ this. If he wasn't hurt early on no one would be talking about a RB issue in CLE.

 

[joey]

Dion lewis.

^ this. If he wasn't hurt early on no one would be talking about a RB issue in CLE.

have him stashed on my IR in both dynasty leagues, and grabbed Leshoure for free off the wire.

zero investment with high possible return. If neither are poised to be the guy once the season starts, then back into the pool at no cost.

Exactly the kind of lottery tickets I want at the end of my bench in the off-season.

 

[eric rymer]

Dion lewis.

^ this. If he wasn't hurt early on no one would be talking about a RB issue in CLE.

have him stashed on my IR in both dynasty leagues, and grabbed Leshoure for free off the wire.

zero investment with high possible return. If neither are poised to be the guy once the season starts, then back into the pool at no cost.

Exactly the kind of lottery tickets I want at the end of my bench in the off-season.

I still think they end up with Ben Tate. Tate and Lewis together make up a nice backfield IMO

 

[Warhogs]

They would probably throw in Jahvid Best too.

In all seriousness, I have never been impressed enough with what I have seen, especially when you add in the off the field issues to feel he would be trading anything of value for him. RBs seem to be a dime a dozen these days.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I agree, solid candidate too match TRich's ability to run into a line and fall down. That is what they were missing this year.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Dion lewis.

Dion Lewis is a good call.

Baker and another free agent like Gerhart make sense too.

Maybe they draft a RB propsect to boot.

But isn't Leshoure almost cuttable at this point by DET? Where does he fit in? It seems that teams can wait and see if he just becomes available on the market if they want a looksie.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Dion lewis.

Dion Lewis is a good call.

Baker and another free agent like Gerhart make sense too.

Maybe they draft a RB propsect to boot.

But isn't Leshoure almost cuttable at this point by DET? Where does he fit in? It seems that teams can wait and see if he just becomes available on the market if they want a looksie.

No way should Cleveland give up anything of value for a guy like Leshoure. However, if the right move came along for them to get him, for cheap it seems as though it could be a cheap fix.

Who knows where Leshoure will end up next year. In Detroit Bush is back for sure, but Bell is a free agent. Detroit may allow Bell to walk and make Leshoure relevant again as this is a new regime. In saying that Bush wanted the rb coach to stick around as a hold over and that has happened. Therefore, the rb coach may want Bell back in tandem with Bush.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Dion lewis.

Dion Lewis is a good call.

Baker and another free agent like Gerhart make sense too.

Maybe they draft a RB propsect to boot.

But isn't Leshoure almost cuttable at this point by DET? Where does he fit in? It seems that teams can wait and see if he just becomes available on the market if they want a looksie.

No way should Cleveland give up anything of value for a guy like Leshoure. However, if the right move came along for them to get him, for cheap it seems as though it could be a cheap fix.Who knows where Leshoure will end up next year. In Detroit Bush is back for sure, but Bell is a free agent. Detroit may allow Bell to walk and make Leshoure relevant again as this is a new regime. In saying that Bush wanted the rb coach to stick around as a hold over and that has happened. Therefore, the rb coach may want Bell back in tandem with Bush.

Supposedly Indy put in a call to Detroit about LeShoure prior to trading for Richardson and were shot down IIRC -- if Bell walks in FA I wouldn't be surprised to see LeShoure in that role in 2014. LeShoure looked OK in 2012 the first year back from his Achilles tear, and is still young and on a cheap rookie deal. Considering he'll make < $650K next year I don't see much reason for Detroit to give him away with Bell a RFA and Bush's history of getting banged up.

 

[Da Guru]

As of now the Lions are saying LeShoure is still in their future plans. Why not? LeShoures contract is very team friendly for the coming season and Bush will surely miss 3-4 games, or be banged up enough to be limited. Bell is a RFA and will be back.

 

[Sabertooth]

Better off signing James Starks for a modest contract. At least when he plays, he's got some talent.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Better off signing James Starks for a modest contract. At least when he plays, he's got some talent.

I would have to disagree. Leshoure could end up being a starter in this league still and end up being the lead guy in any RBBC. Starks will never be a starting RB in the league or get the most touches in any time share.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Better off signing James Starks for a modest contract. At least when he plays, he's got some talent.

A little early to completely pass judgement on LeShoure, isn't it? He's 23, was a 2nd round pick, and the only extensive look we've had at him was immediately coming back from an Achilles tear. And he didn't look horrible IMO. Not great, either, but it's not at all unreasonable to think that he might be better the further out from the injury we get. He's a longshot FF-wise, certainly, but it's also a mistake to just completely close the book on him.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Better off signing James Starks for a modest contract. At least when he plays, he's got some talent.

A little early to completely pass judgement on LeShoure, isn't it? He's 23, was a 2nd round pick, and the only extensive look we've had at him was immediately coming back from an Achilles tear. And he didn't look horrible IMO. Not great, either, but it's not at all unreasonable to think that he might be better the further out from the injury we get. He's a longshot FF-wise, certainly, but it's also a mistake to just completely close the book on him.

I have to agree with this. Running back more than any situation is all about getting a chance. Plenty of write offs have went on and had some pretty good years guys like Moreno, Thomas Jones etc. Are the odds in his favor? No, but much weirder things happen.

 

[cstu]

As of now the Lions are saying LeShoure is still in their future plans. Why not? LeShoures contract is very team friendly for the coming season and Bush will surely miss 3-4 games, or be banged up enough to be limited. Bell is a RFA and will be back.

I think the Lions put a 2nd round tender (~$2M) on him and hope they get the pick.

 

[Sinrman]

As a Lions fan I would be happy with getting ANYTHING for LeShoure.

 

[Sabertooth]

Better off signing James Starks for a modest contract. At least when he plays, he's got some talent.

A little early to completely pass judgement on LeShoure, isn't it? He's 23, was a 2nd round pick, and the only extensive look we've had at him was immediately coming back from an Achilles tear. And he didn't look horrible IMO. Not great, either, but it's not at all unreasonable to think that he might be better the further out from the injury we get. He's a longshot FF-wise, certainly, but it's also a mistake to just completely close the book on him.

I agree. He still has a chance. But giving up a pick for a player like Leshoure when a guy like Starks costs you nothing is bad business. Tons of street free agents have similar upside. Plus he has off the field issues too. I'd pass on him.

 

[Sabertooth]

As of now the Lions are saying LeShoure is still in their future plans. Why not? LeShoures contract is very team friendly for the coming season and Bush will surely miss 3-4 games, or be banged up enough to be limited. Bell is a RFA and will be back.

I think the Lions put a 2nd round tender (~$2M) on him and hope they get the pick.

Nobody is giving up a 2nd round pick for Bell. No way. Maybe a 4th or 5th. But even that is doubtful. RBs are a dime a dozen.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Better off signing James Starks for a modest contract. At least when he plays, he's got some talent.

A little early to completely pass judgement on LeShoure, isn't it? He's 23, was a 2nd round pick, and the only extensive look we've had at him was immediately coming back from an Achilles tear. And he didn't look horrible IMO. Not great, either, but it's not at all unreasonable to think that he might be better the further out from the injury we get. He's a longshot FF-wise, certainly, but it's also a mistake to just completely close the book on him.

I agree. He still has a chance. But giving up a pick for a player like Leshoure when a guy like Starks costs you nothing is bad business. Tons of street free agents have similar upside. Plus he has off the field issues too. I'd pass on him.

Depends on how much money Starks gets. If it's a one year rental of LeShoure on his current deal ($645,000) for a late round pick vs Starks on a longer more expensive deal (which is a certainty, he's not a rookie), then it's a tough question.Not that it matters -- Detroit is just going to keep him around another year as cheap depth. $645,000 is nothing for a decent backup.

 

[bmsarvis]

Detroit homer here. Fyi bell isn't goin anywhere. He's a fan favorite, more effective then bush, younger , and more durable at a fraction of the cost. I'm pretty sure bell is the type that would sign a smaller contract with detroit versus going to another team.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Detroit homer here. Fyi bell isn't goin anywhere. He's a fan favorite, more effective then bush, younger , and more durable at a fraction of the cost. I'm pretty sure bell is the type that would sign a smaller contract with detroit versus going to another team.

More effective than Bush?

Bell is a good back up and a nice piece to the smaller half of a RBBC, but he gets far too much credit for being an average player.

 

[bmsarvis]

Bush might have more speed can't argue that. But bell is the better RB for detroit. Maybe bush got more attention. Idk. But bell was more effective during the games. I'm not a stat w**** so u can dig em up if u want. I'm sure blocking aand yards per touch will be interesting to compare. And also bush is always hurt it seems . Not on the field = less effective