Clinton Portis 2,000 Yard Season? (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

Yards Until 2,000: 1,056

The guy is at 944 yards after 8 games, and has now had 5 straight games with over 100-Yards.

http://www.nfl.com/players/clintonportis/g...gs?id=POR792942

Let's compare him to other backs whom had 2,000 yard seasons.

Yards after playing 8 Games:

Jamal Lewis: 1,045

Terrell Davis: 1,150

Barry Sanders: 893

Eric Dickerson: 880

O.J. Simpson: 1,104

So people have done it with less yards...

 

[gbill2004]

I don't think it will happen because he is starting to show signs of wear and tear, but his bye in week 10 could give him that needed rest to make it close.

 

[jurb26]

I don't think it will happen because he is starting to show signs of wear and tear, but his bye in week 10 could give him that needed rest to make it close.

Little confused by this reasoning. He is showing signs of wear and tear as he rips off 121, 145, 129, 175 and 126 in his last 5 games. Not too mention never rushing for less than 5.0 per attempt in any of those 5 games. I doubt he reaches that lofty 2000 yds mark, but it seems as though he is performing better and better as the season goes on. Or better yet, his Oline is performing better and better.

 

[gbill2004]

I don't think it will happen because he is starting to show signs of wear and tear, but his bye in week 10 could give him that needed rest to make it close.

Little confused by this reasoning. He is showing signs of wear and tear as he rips off 121, 145, 129, 175 and 126 in his last 5 games. Not too mention never rushing for less than 5.0 per attempt in any of those 5 games. I doubt he reaches that lofty 2000 yds mark, but it seems as though he is performing better and better as the season goes on. Or better yet, his Oline is performing better and better.

By showing wear and tear I mean that he has left games with minor injuries the past few weeks. While he has continue to play through these injuries and has produced at a very high level, I see one of two things happening:1. Zorn cuts back Portis's carries, which will hurt his chances at 2,000 yards.2. The injuries catch up to Portis and he eventually suffers something serious, causing missed games.Keep in mind, I am a Portis owner.

 

[The_Man]

He'll be doing very well to get 60 yards vs. both Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Being generous, let's say he goes for 150 yards total in those 2 games.

That means he would need 900 in his 6 other games: Dallas, Seattle, Giants, Cincy, Philly, and SF. That would be 150 per game, and he's currently only averaging 118 per game --- he's only touched 150 once so far, and now you're asking him to do it 6 more times.

Not going to happen.

 

[Ripleys]

don't underestimate the improvements of the Skins line. Remember that great stretch of games Betts had a few years ago? That was the line. They are starting to gel. Portis very well could get 2000.

 

[jurb26]

He'll be doing very well to get 60 yards vs. both Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Being generous, let's say he goes for 150 yards total in those 2 games. That means he would need 900 in his 6 other games: Dallas, Seattle, Giants, Cincy, Philly, and SF. That would be 150 per game, and he's currently only averaging 118 per game --- he's only touched 150 once so far, and now you're asking him to do it 6 more times.Not going to happen.

Portis has already faced the 7, 9, 11 and 12 rushing Ds and done just fine. Sure Pitt and Balt are ranked 1 and 3. It's not as if Wash/Portis haven't been challenged with tough run Ds though.

 

[The_Man]

He'll be doing very well to get 60 yards vs. both Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Being generous, let's say he goes for 150 yards total in those 2 games. That means he would need 900 in his 6 other games: Dallas, Seattle, Giants, Cincy, Philly, and SF. That would be 150 per game, and he's currently only averaging 118 per game --- he's only touched 150 once so far, and now you're asking him to do it 6 more times.Not going to happen.

Portis has already faced the 7, 9, 11 and 12 rushing Ds and done just fine. Sure Pitt and Balt are ranked 1 and 3. It's not as if Wash/Portis haven't been challenged with tough run Ds though.

I love Portis, but the fact he's played Dallas and Arizona (the 11 and 12 rushing defenses) has no bearing whatsoever on how he's going to do vs. Pittsburgh and Baltimore. BTW, he's only played 1 defense that's in the top 10 for yards per carry -- Philly, and he had a great game against them.But the Steelers and Ravens both give up only 2.8 ypc. They are great run defenses. And I went ahead and said he'd get 75 yards against both of those teams (which I don't think he'll do). But even getting 75 yards in those 2 games will make 2,000 almost impossible to attain.

 

[Ghost Rider]

He'll be doing very well to get 60 yards vs. both Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Being generous, let's say he goes for 150 yards total in those 2 games. That means he would need 900 in his 6 other games: Dallas, Seattle, Giants, Cincy, Philly, and SF. That would be 150 per game, and he's currently only averaging 118 per game --- he's only touched 150 once so far, and now you're asking him to do it 6 more times.Not going to happen.

Terrell Davis rushed for 2,008 yards in 1998 despite running for 29, 69 and 75 in three of his 16 games. My point: A great RB is more than capable of still running for 2,000 yards despite a few subpar (by their standards) games. The way he is running the ball right now, Portis could easily gash Seattle, San Francisco and Cincinnati all for 175-200 yards, depending on how those games go.

 

[shredhead]

I'm riding the Portis train to my championship!! Now i guess i should look up his week 15 and 16 opponents.

 

[Krewe]

Re: the Steelers,

Keep in mind that despite their stifling run defense, the only truly elite RB they have faced all season is Brian Westbrook at Philly in week three, and that's where he went out injured after 5 carries.

I think they will no doubt sell out to lock down Portis, but we've yet to see them do it this season-- to someone who is both elite and the clear focus of an offense.

just sayin'......

 

[Firekaps]

I think 1,800 is more like it. And that has nothing to do with opponents or wear and tear. It has to do with CPs inability to rip of 30, 40, 50+ yard runs. He capable of running for 175+ yards, sure, but not on 19 or 22 carries like Dickerson, OJ, Jamal (in his prime) etc. Portis needs 30 carries to do that, and he just can't get 30 carries per game. He's bound to have a 15 carries for 65 yard game in there, and one of those kills any chance at 2,000.

Portis owner loving CP this year.

 

[MikeApf]

I don't think it will happen because he is starting to show signs of wear and tear, but his bye in week 10 could give him that needed rest to make it close.

Little confused by this reasoning. He is showing signs of wear and tear as he rips off 121, 145, 129, 175 and 126 in his last 5 games. Not too mention never rushing for less than 5.0 per attempt in any of those 5 games. I doubt he reaches that lofty 2000 yds mark, but it seems as though he is performing better and better as the season goes on. Or better yet, his Oline is performing better and better.

By showing wear and tear I mean that he has left games with minor injuries the past few weeks. While he has continue to play through these injuries and has produced at a very high level, I see one of two things happening:1. Zorn cuts back Portis's carries, which will hurt his chances at 2,000 yards.2. The injuries catch up to Portis and he eventually suffers something serious, causing missed games.Keep in mind, I am a Portis owner.

I am a Redskins homer and a Portis owner as well and I really hope # 1 (above) happens. Shaun Alexander has not yet shown me that he can spell Portis significantly, but when Betts gets back, I would try my best to drop Portis' carries down, even if it's under 20 per game. I would love to see him get 2,000 but the Redskins have a real chance to do something in the playoffs this year and no individual accomplishments are worth them sacrificing that. I hope Portis himself would feel that way.M

 

[David Yudkin]

Portis is averaging 5.0 ypc. At that rate, he'd need 400 carries. tHAT'S a lot OF CARRIES. He's also got some tough run defenses still to go (BAL 1, PIT 3, NYG 7, PHI 9, DAL 11). I'm inclined to say no as at his current rate he'd need to average almost 27 carries a game to get there.

 

[Krewe]

I don't think it will happen because he is starting to show signs of wear and tear, but his bye in week 10 could give him that needed rest to make it close.

Little confused by this reasoning. He is showing signs of wear and tear as he rips off 121, 145, 129, 175 and 126 in his last 5 games. Not too mention never rushing for less than 5.0 per attempt in any of those 5 games. I doubt he reaches that lofty 2000 yds mark, but it seems as though he is performing better and better as the season goes on. Or better yet, his Oline is performing better and better.

By showing wear and tear I mean that he has left games with minor injuries the past few weeks. While he has continue to play through these injuries and has produced at a very high level, I see one of two things happening:1. Zorn cuts back Portis's carries, which will hurt his chances at 2,000 yards.2. The injuries catch up to Portis and he eventually suffers something serious, causing missed games.Keep in mind, I am a Portis owner.

I am a Redskins homer and a Portis owner as well and I really hope # 1 (above) happens. Shaun Alexander has not yet shown me that he can spell Portis significantly, but when Betts gets back, I would try my best to drop Portis' carries down, even if it's under 20 per game. I would love to see him get 2,000 but the Redskins have a real chance to do something in the playoffs this year and no individual accomplishments are worth them sacrificing that. I hope Portis himself would feel that way.M

Hate to say it as a Portis owner, but yeah..dialing him down prob. makes sense over the long haul. That said, the muddled situation behind him makes things appear unclear for the stretch run, both in FF and the real deal. How long till Betts is 100% and does SA have anything left in the tank. Some big question marks IMHO.

 

[The_Man]

For a trip down memory lane, check out this thread that from about Week 4 onward of 2003 documented Jamal Lewis's ultimately unsuccessful bid to break the all-time season rushing record, but did see him surpass 2,000 yards.

In looking that thread over, the only way Jamal even got close was by racking up 495 yards in two games vs. the Browns. That's the kind of crazy performance it takes to hit 2,000 in a season, and I don't see that happening for Portis.

 

[MikeApf]

For a trip down memory lane, check out this thread that from about Week 4 onward of 2003 documented Jamal Lewis's ultimately unsuccessful bid to break the all-time season rushing record, but did see him surpass 2,000 yards.

In looking that thread over, the only way Jamal even got close was by racking up 495 yards in two games vs. the Browns. That's the kind of crazy performance it takes to hit 2,000 in a season, and I don't see that happening for Portis.

This is a really good point, I think. There are some running backs who can rip off a few "home run" runs and those stats really help you over the top when pursuing an individual mark like this. Portis *used* to be that kind of runner, but the longer he's been in Washington, the more he's become a "workhorse" type of back. In the Gibbs years, it seems like he never had a run over 10 yards. This year, he's pulling a few 20-40 yarders, but he's typically caught from behind if there is much green beyond that. I wonder what his "flat out speed" is at this point of his career.Don't get me wrong; he's an awesome back. But you make a point that he may not be the "type" of back to get 2,000...

M

 

[thatguy]

For a trip down memory lane, check out this thread that from about Week 4 onward of 2003 documented Jamal Lewis's ultimately unsuccessful bid to break the all-time season rushing record, but did see him surpass 2,000 yards.

In looking that thread over, the only way Jamal even got close was by racking up 495 yards in two games vs. the Browns. That's the kind of crazy performance it takes to hit 2,000 in a season, and I don't see that happening for Portis.

This is a really good point, I think. There are some running backs who can rip off a few "home run" runs and those stats really help you over the top when pursuing an individual mark like this. Portis *used* to be that kind of runner, but the longer he's been in Washington, the more he's become a "workhorse" type of back. In the Gibbs years, it seems like he never had a run over 10 yards. This year, he's pulling a few 20-40 yarders, but he's typically caught from behind if there is much green beyond that. I wonder what his "flat out speed" is at this point of his career.Don't get me wrong; he's an awesome back. But you make a point that he may not be the "type" of back to get 2,000...

M

This is definitely a great point... I think the last time I saw him rip off a long TD run may just be his first game with Washington, in which, very very early in the game he ripped off a 60+ yard TD run. It's not like his Denver days when he could rip off 220+ and 5 TDs against KC on 20 some carries.

 

[dgreen]

There are some running backs who can rip off a few "home run" runs and those stats really help you over the top when pursuing an individual mark like this. Portis *used* to be that kind of runner, but the longer he's been in Washington, the more he's become a "workhorse" type of back. In the Gibbs years, it seems like he never had a run over 10 yards. This year, he's pulling a few 20-40 yarders, but he's typically caught from behind if there is much green beyond that. I wonder what his "flat out speed" is at this point of his career.

I can't think of one run this year where he's been in the clear and been behind the DBs and was caught from behind.

 

[jurb26]

There are some running backs who can rip off a few "home run" runs and those stats really help you over the top when pursuing an individual mark like this. Portis *used* to be that kind of runner, but the longer he's been in Washington, the more he's become a "workhorse" type of back. In the Gibbs years, it seems like he never had a run over 10 yards. This year, he's pulling a few 20-40 yarders, but he's typically caught from behind if there is much green beyond that. I wonder what his "flat out speed" is at this point of his career.

I can't think of one run this year where he's been in the clear and been behind the DBs and was caught from behind.

Portis has had at least one run over 20 yds in 6 of his 8 games thus far. Not sure if that is impressive or not in the grand scheme of things, but it seems pretty nice as a Portis fantasy owner.

 

[Football fever]

Did you know if he stays healthy the rest of this yr and next he should hit 10,000 rush yds some time next yr! one of the most underated RB of all time. To bad I never bought in. and he is only 27

 

[Archie Bunker]

Don't discount the fact that Campbell is playing extremely well. The chemistry in the passing game with Moss, Cooley, and Randle El is very good. Team cannot stack the line against the Skins any more, giving Portis more room to run.

 

[thatguy]

There are some running backs who can rip off a few "home run" runs and those stats really help you over the top when pursuing an individual mark like this. Portis *used* to be that kind of runner, but the longer he's been in Washington, the more he's become a "workhorse" type of back. In the Gibbs years, it seems like he never had a run over 10 yards. This year, he's pulling a few 20-40 yarders, but he's typically caught from behind if there is much green beyond that. I wonder what his "flat out speed" is at this point of his career.

I can't think of one run this year where he's been in the clear and been behind the DBs and was caught from behind.

I would say this is accurate... many times he has broken into the second level but there always seems to be safety help over the top. He has not been chased down from behind, he gets caught by guys who are in position to make the play and take good pursuit angles.

 

[MikeApf]

There are some running backs who can rip off a few "home run" runs and those stats really help you over the top when pursuing an individual mark like this. Portis *used* to be that kind of runner, but the longer he's been in Washington, the more he's become a "workhorse" type of back. In the Gibbs years, it seems like he never had a run over 10 yards. This year, he's pulling a few 20-40 yarders, but he's typically caught from behind if there is much green beyond that. I wonder what his "flat out speed" is at this point of his career.

I can't think of one run this year where he's been in the clear and been behind the DBs and was caught from behind.

I would say this is accurate... many times he has broken into the second level but there always seems to be safety help over the top. He has not been chased down from behind, he gets caught by guys who are in position to make the play and take good pursuit angles.

That's an interesting point. I'll have to really watch for this in the coming games. I guess it just seems that -- for whatever reason -- you don't see him just bust free for long touchdowns -- and yet I do see some other backs do it. Obviously not hurting his overall productivity of course. I'll have to pay extra attention to this in the upcoming games...I do see what you are saying...M

 

[jbz]

part of breaking long runs is having good down field blocking from your WRs. On Denver he had Rod Smith and Ed McCaffery, two damn good blockers for WRs. On Washington he has Santana Moss, ARE and James Thrash. They give the effort, but they aren't taking DBs out of plays. That being said, Portis is a different RB then the one he was in Denver. He loses his balance a little more when running through the line (though he's better at it this year it seems) and part of it IMO is the way he's carrying the ball. Watch when he runs through where a lot of defenders are, he holds the ball with two hands in a way where he can't pump his arms and be as elusive/balanced. That's just my observation though.