Clinton Portis/Champ Bailey trade (1 Viewer)

[SpaceCowboy]

Before the day when the Broncos and Redskins traded superstar for superstar, the phones of NFL GM's did not ring with trade offers.

I have noticed that ever since this trade occurred, there has been a resurgence of player swaps around the league. Why? Becaue the NFL is a copycat league - and it worked for both teams.

For years and years, no team wanted to get owned for making a Herschel Walker deal, or Ricky Williams deal, or any other horrendous moves over the years. Then the light went on. Need for need. We don't have to screw the othe team to make a trade. Why not help both teams?

Deion Branch to Seattle

Samkon Gado for Vernand Morency

Lelie/Duckett

Randy Moss

Daunte Culpepper

Reshaun Woods and the other bum in that deal (give it a try - why not?)

L. Coles, Santana Moss

soon to be Billy Volek

Kevan Barlow

the list goes on and on.

This is now a very real, and very important part of fantasy football. LUCK. Not to be confuse with LHUCKS. When I put that in capital letters, I notice the similarities.

We now as ffl managers really must pay attention to how teams feel about certain players. Jerious Norwood many of us were high on because there was always the threat of Duckett going to a different team. Ben Watson was projected to have a great season by many because Deion Branch might not return to New England. Same thing goes for Frank Gore. But what if Samkon Gado pops into the #1 role in Houston. Is that why you owned him. I think not.

It's exciting to see trades happen, but as a fantasy manager sometimes you get burnt. How do you feel about trades in the real NFL and do you feel that it is for the good of the league?

 

[Mario Kart]

The trades mentioned have very little impact on fantasy football. There were no LJ/LT trades in the NFL and these do not compare to something of that nature. The recent flood of trades do not impact fantasy football in any way comparable to the effect they have on those NFL teams.

 

[redman]

Other than expressing agreement with you, I'm not sure how to answer your questions.

I would point out, though, that with only rare exception on your list, each player traded was a "problem" in some way, be it mild as in the case of Portis or Bailey who expressed desires for more money and a change of scenery, respectively, or Culpepper who was severely injured, or Branch who was being a poison pill.

I agree though - it appears to be occurring more often and it certainly makes life interesting as I, a Gado-Morency owner, can attest this particular week.

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

Other than expressing agreement with you, I'm not sure how to answer your questions. I would point out, though, that with only rare exception on your list, each player traded was a "problem" in some way, be it mild as in the case of Portis or Bailey who expressed desires for more money and a change of scenery, respectively, or Culpepper who was severely injured, or Branch who was being a poison pill. I agree though - it appears to be occurring more often and it certainly makes life interesting as I, a Gado-Morency owner, can attest this particular week.

yup

 

[redman]

I would add that this also may be a product of teams beginning to master techiniques to limit the cap hits they take from such trades. They've had more time to study the ways of the teams that appear to have been innovators in that regard, like the Redskins, Cowboys and Broncos, each of whom is near the cap every year and yet is still able tomove talent on and off of their rosters.

 

[schlesinj]

I remember seeing something on a Inside the Huddle that mentioned the Cap structure was changed a bit that made it more friendly to make trades in preseason and early season.

 

[moondawg]

I remember seeing something on a Inside the Huddle that mentioned the Cap structure was changed a bit that made it more friendly to make trades in preseason and early season.

It is the unexpected large increase in the Salary Cap this year due to the new labor contract that has made it much easier for teams to trade players and fit them in under the cap. I don't think the Portis/Bailey had much influence on this at all.

 

[Local303]

Didn't Baltimore trade P.Holmes, does anyone remember what they got ?

All I remember was being happy that they keep Jamal Lewis. I wonder what Jamal would have done at KC ?

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Didn't Baltimore trade P.Holmes, does anyone remember what they got ? All I remember was being happy that they keep Jamal Lewis. I wonder what Jamal would have done at KC ?

Pretty sure he was waived. I know KC signed him in free agency, and I don't think he was a RFA.

 

[Z-Dog]

The trades mentioned have very little impact on fantasy football. There were no LJ/LT trades in the NFL and these do not compare to something of that nature. The recent flood of trades do not impact fantasy football in any way comparable to the effect they have on those NFL teams.

Are you high?Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey had no impact on FF? How about the Randy Moss deal? Even Moss for Coles freed Moss from a terrible system for him and made him an elite fantasy WR last year. What about Daunte Culpepper to Miami? And KEvan Barlow's move, whcih cleared the way for Frank Gore?

 

[J-Rock]

The biggest offseason move affecting FFB and NFL involved a player who will never show up an any FFB roster... Steve Hutchensen leaves Sea for Min.

Mark it down.

 

[Big Score]

The trades mentioned have very little impact on fantasy football. There were no LJ/LT trades in the NFL and these do not compare to something of that nature. The recent flood of trades do not impact fantasy football in any way comparable to the effect they have on those NFL teams.

Guess you missed Atlanta's win over the Panthers this past weeked. I thought the Falcons trade for John Abraham had a major impact on that game and the outcome.

 

[redman]

The biggest offseason move affecting FFB and NFL involved a player who will never show up an any FFB roster... Steve Hutchensen leaves Sea for Min. Mark it down.

I'm already a believer. Minnesota's line looks completely transformed, and Seattle's seemed to struggle against a very mediocre Detroit team.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

draft day trades happen all the time.

tomlinson for vick

Eli for Rivers

Kellen Winslow for Roy Williams

:Shrugs:

 

[Z-Dog]

The trades mentioned have very little impact on fantasy football. There were no LJ/LT trades in the NFL and these do not compare to something of that nature. The recent flood of trades do not impact fantasy football in any way comparable to the effect they have on those NFL teams.

Guess you missed Atlanta's win over the Panthers this past weeked. I thought the Falcons trade for John Abraham had a major impact on that game and the outcome.

To say nothing of the other half of that deal. C Nick Mangold, whom the Jets took with the Falcons pick, played a big part in giving Pennington the time to throw for over 300 yards with over 70% accuracy and two TDs.

 

[sartre]

I remember seeing something on a Inside the Huddle that mentioned the Cap structure was changed a bit that made it more friendly to make trades in preseason and early season.

It is the unexpected large increase in the Salary Cap this year due to the new labor contract that has made it much easier for teams to trade players and fit them in under the cap. I don't think the Portis/Bailey had much influence on this at all.

This is what I have read as well. We're looking at an isolated phenomenon. Because of the huge cap increase this year, teams are able to take the cap hits that often come with trading players.