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Clinton Portis in 2006 (1 Viewer)

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I have him listed at #4 on my RB's for next year. Does anyone else have him that high? And does anyone have him higher?

 
I dont think that's out of line at all with Al Saunders arriving in Washington. That being said, I don't think you can put him above LT, SA, and LJ in any scenario.

 
I also have him at #4.

Let me qualify that statement by disclosing that I am a Redskin's homer.

Without the Saunder's offense, he still rushed for over 1500 yards this year. I'd expect the same next year, but more TDs and more receiving yards.

 
That being said, I don't think you can put him above LT, SA, and LJ in any scenario.
Really? You don't think that SA not getting signed in Sea or some serious changes to the KC Oline could have a large impact on that?
 
#4 sounds about right for a redraft. I think you can argue Portis above Alexander in dynasty, especially if Alexander goes somewhere else.

 
I think 4 sounds about right for him, with everything as it is now. He had a great year and should be only better in '06. I don't know if Saunders will turn him into a Priest-style machine overnight, but I definitely see him topping this year's numbers pretty easily.

 
to clarify i have him at #4 based on Alexander staying in Seattle.

i will be interested to see what function or dysfuntion Herm Edwards brings to KC...when everyone was heathy in NY, Curtis Martin was still super while crossing over to the wrong side of 30...so i don't see any decline in LJ.

 
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That being said,  I don't think you can put him above LT, SA, and LJ in any scenario.
Really? You don't think that SA not getting signed in Sea or some serious changes to the KC Oline could have a large impact on that?
I guess I shouldnt have said "any", instead should have said " any likely" - I see SA leaving Seattle as highly unlikely, and I also assume the KC line will be intact. If SA was a Cardinal, or 2/5 of the KC line retired, I would reconsider.
 
Saunders>Gibbs?
Not necessarily. Gibbs and Saunders made it clear why Saunders was brought in to be the OC. Being a HC today involves some different things than it did during Gibbs 1.0. Gibbs used to be able to just sit in his office all day and scheme an offense. Now, he is much more involved in player evaluation and other stuff like contracts and the salary cap. Gibbs, without Saunders, took his offense from almost dead last in 2004 to the top third of the league in 2005. Gibbs realized his offense probably wouldn't make another great leap without some help because he also needs to dedicate much of his time this offseason to things other than retooling the offense.
 
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Looking at his numbers, my top concern would be the number of carries he is getting. He's had 343 and 352 in his first two years with Washington. Hard to find many guys that keep that up. That doesn't mean he will get hurt, but he may just wear down a little have a year where his numbers are a little lower.

 
Looking at his numbers, my top concern would be the number of carries he is getting. He's had 343 and 352 in his first two years with Washington. Hard to find many guys that keep that up. That doesn't mean he will get hurt, but he may just wear down a little have a year where his numbers are a little lower.
Pretty much everyone who's a candidate as a top 5 RB is in the same boat except LJ. In other words, it doesn't concern me at all. If it did, I'd also have to have the same conerns for SA, LT, Tiki, Edge, etc..
 
Looking at his numbers, my top concern would be the number of carries he is getting. He's had 343 and 352 in his first two years with Washington. Hard to find many guys that keep that up. That doesn't mean he will get hurt, but he may just wear down a little have a year where his numbers are a little lower.
Pretty much everyone who's a candidate as a top 5 RB is in the same boat except LJ. In other words, it doesn't concern me at all. If it did, I'd also have to have the same conerns for SA, LT, Tiki, Edge, etc..
On the other hand, maybe it should concern you because the top 5 RBs vary quite a bit from year to year. Repeat placement in top 5 yardage:

2005: 3/5

2004: 0/5

2003: 2/5

2002: 1/5

2001: 0/5

Looking at the last 5 seasons of top 5 RBs (by rushing yards), only 6 of the 25 have repeated as a top 5 back. In two of the years, none did.

 
just an FYI,

As former San Diego coordinators, Gibbs and Saunders are both products of the Don Coryell scheme. They also worked together way back in 1972 at Southern Cal. So the offense won't change radically.

 
Looking at his numbers, my top concern would be the number of carries he is getting. He's had 343 and 352 in his first two years with Washington. Hard to find many guys that keep that up. That doesn't mean he will get hurt, but he may just wear down a little have a year where his numbers are a little lower.
Pretty much everyone who's a candidate as a top 5 RB is in the same boat except LJ. In other words, it doesn't concern me at all. If it did, I'd also have to have the same conerns for SA, LT, Tiki, Edge, etc..
On the other hand, maybe it should concern you because the top 5 RBs vary quite a bit from year to year. Repeat placement in top 5 yardage:

2005: 3/5

2004: 0/5

2003: 2/5

2002: 1/5

2001: 0/5

Looking at the last 5 seasons of top 5 RBs (by rushing yards), only 6 of the 25 have repeated as a top 5 back. In two of the years, none did.
So you're not going to put SA, LT, and LJ in your top 5?
 
Looking at his numbers, my top concern would be the number of carries he is getting.  He's had 343 and 352 in his first two years with Washington.  Hard to find many guys that keep that up.  That doesn't mean he will get hurt, but he may just wear down a little have a year where his numbers are a little lower.
Pretty much everyone who's a candidate as a top 5 RB is in the same boat except LJ. In other words, it doesn't concern me at all. If it did, I'd also have to have the same conerns for SA, LT, Tiki, Edge, etc..
On the other hand, maybe it should concern you because the top 5 RBs vary quite a bit from year to year. Repeat placement in top 5 yardage:

2005: 3/5

2004: 0/5

2003: 2/5

2002: 1/5

2001: 0/5

Looking at the last 5 seasons of top 5 RBs (by rushing yards), only 6 of the 25 have repeated as a top 5 back. In two of the years, none did.
Good thing that he was the #6 back last year then.
 
I think what this will do will get Portis more involved in the passing game with tosses and screen passes. Get him out in space where his quickness can be used to make people miss. Less pounding will be good for him. More catches will make him worth more in FF and worthy of a top spot in the draft.

 
I think this is mainly misunderstood. How many times has LT been a top 3 RB? Still, we gladly draft him 1.01. Why? He is most likely to be a top 3-5 RB. We take this too far that the top back should produce exactly where drafted. I think the part missing is the risk exposure. Even with LT missing late in the season and disappointing his owners, he still will be drafted in the top two in almost every draft. Most would agree that, at this time, he offers less risk that one of, or both, LJ or SA.

 
I think what this will do will get Portis more involved in the passing game with tosses and screen passes. Get him out in space where his quickness can be used to make people miss. Less pounding will be good for him. More catches will make him worth more in FF and worthy of a top spot in the draft.
As a Portis owner and Redskins fan, that's my hope. I can only remember a couple traditional RB screens the past two years and they were usually blown up because of missed blocks. They've thrown a couple screens to him split out wide like a WR. I remember he did very well with one against SD.
 
Until they find an answer at QB, i think he drops a notch or 2. Top ten? yes, top 5? Nope.
that's true. After all, the Ravens had great QB play when Jamal Lewis went for over 2,000 yards :rolleyes:
I've never been able to figure out why Lewis was so successful that season. Everybody knew the Ravens couldn't pass yet Lewis still got his yards, granted he was lucky enough to get 4 games versus Cleveland and Cincinnati. However despite his accomplishments, I think it's usually a safe bet to knock a RB with no passing game down a peg or two. If Brunell starts I hardly think you can say the Skins have no passing game. However if Campbell is given the reisn I could see Portis regressing the same way McGahee did this year.Even with Brunell, I still think I'd take Tiki Barber over Portis. I'd consider Rudi Johnson too.

 
I think this is mainly misunderstood. How many times has LT been a top 3 RB? Still, we gladly draft him 1.01. Why? He is most likely to be a top 3-5 RB. We take this too far that the top back should produce exactly where drafted. I think the part missing is the risk exposure. Even with LT missing late in the season and disappointing his owners, he still will be drafted in the top two in almost every draft. Most would agree that, at this time, he offers less risk that one of, or both, LJ or SA.
and here i thought your sig line was about LT. :D (yes..i know...Eph. 3:20) :thumbup:

 

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