Clinton Portis (1 Viewer)

[redman]

You're relying upon pre-draft speculation from "Draft Daddy"?

Um. Yes.Any reason I shouldn't?

Ignoring the fact that I've never heard of them before, I don't tend to look to them for insider info from the Redskins, like something as top secret as intentions to trade a franchise-level player that haven't been announced by the team. Portis is going nowhere. The team loves him and loves the fact that Betts showed he can take some of the workload from Portis without the offense missing a step. They intend to use them as a tandem, with Portis being the clear RB1.

Yeah the Skins were so secretive when they were trying to move up to take Cambell. I'd believe a taxi driver when it comes to leaks from the redskins.As to your 2nd point, based on what? Your gut?The team ran the ball fine without Portis. He's 8% of their cap. That's a lot for a "tandem" guy. And do they love how Portis is breaking down? How he missed half the year? Yeah that was awesome.At best for Portis owners its a Holmes/LJ type role. At worst, it's JJ/MBIII. I could very easily see them taking turns putting up the most FF points. If both stay healthy, I don't see either one in the top 10. Fact is Portis is the highest paid player on the team, he's expendable (see 1/2 half last year), and they have lots of needs. That means its very possible they'd be willing to move him. Problem is, Edge/SA couldn't fetch a 2nd, and I'm not sure anyone is willing to pay a 1st or 2nd, and they won't let him go for a 3rd. The lack of people lining up to pay the price for Portis is the reason he won't get moved, not because they love him.

. . . I'm still waiting on your analysis as to how they could afford to move him under the salary cap, especiallly given their other needs.

Yeah the redskins have a history of conservative salary cap management. Good point.So the main reason is no longer "man crush on Portis", but it's "they won't take the cap hit?".Just trying to keep track.

There's not much to keep track of when you're just being a #####.

 

[redman]

From a Washington Times article:

The Redskins signed Betts to a new contract late in the season, and it is expected he'll remain the back up to Portis. A preseason shoulder injury and a broken hand in Game 9 ended Portis' season after only 127 carries.

During the first half of last year, Saunders often said he was trying to get an idea of which running plays Portis preferred.

"I think I have a better feel for Clinton now," he said. "I know watching him run up and down the field with Denver was a scary thing. If he would have had the same opportunities as Ladell, Clinton would have ended up in the Pro Bowl."

By the time the Redskins' running game picked up steam, Portis was on injured reserve and Betts was the beneficiary.

"We love our running back situation," Gibbs said. "If you look around the league in the postseason, what shocked me was that most of the teams had running back tandems. Both Clinton and Ladell are great competitors and are both really good in their role."

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

From a Washington Times article:

The Redskins signed Betts to a new contract late in the season, and it is expected he'll remain the back up to Portis. A preseason shoulder injury and a broken hand in Game 9 ended Portis' season after only 127 carries.

During the first half of last year, Saunders often said he was trying to get an idea of which running plays Portis preferred.

"I think I have a better feel for Clinton now," he said. "I know watching him run up and down the field with Denver was a scary thing. If he would have had the same opportunities as Ladell, Clinton would have ended up in the Pro Bowl."

By the time the Redskins' running game picked up steam, Portis was on injured reserve and Betts was the beneficiary.

"We love our running back situation," Gibbs said. "If you look around the league in the postseason, what shocked me was that most of the teams had running back tandems. Both Clinton and Ladell are great competitors and are both really good in their role."

 

[billyjoe]

You're relying upon pre-draft speculation from "Draft Daddy"?

Um. Yes.Any reason I shouldn't?

Ignoring the fact that I've never heard of them before, I don't tend to look to them for insider info from the Redskins, like something as top secret as intentions to trade a franchise-level player that haven't been announced by the team. Portis is going nowhere. The team loves him and loves the fact that Betts showed he can take some of the workload from Portis without the offense missing a step. They intend to use them as a tandem, with Portis being the clear RB1.

Yeah the Skins were so secretive when they were trying to move up to take Cambell. I'd believe a taxi driver when it comes to leaks from the redskins.As to your 2nd point, based on what? Your gut?The team ran the ball fine without Portis. He's 8% of their cap. That's a lot for a "tandem" guy. And do they love how Portis is breaking down? How he missed half the year? Yeah that was awesome.At best for Portis owners its a Holmes/LJ type role. At worst, it's JJ/MBIII. I could very easily see them taking turns putting up the most FF points. If both stay healthy, I don't see either one in the top 10. Fact is Portis is the highest paid player on the team, he's expendable (see 1/2 half last year), and they have lots of needs. That means its very possible they'd be willing to move him. Problem is, Edge/SA couldn't fetch a 2nd, and I'm not sure anyone is willing to pay a 1st or 2nd, and they won't let him go for a 3rd. The lack of people lining up to pay the price for Portis is the reason he won't get moved, not because they love him.

. . . I'm still waiting on your analysis as to how they could afford to move him under the salary cap, especiallly given their other needs.

Yeah the redskins have a history of conservative salary cap management. Good point.So the main reason is no longer "man crush on Portis", but it's "they won't take the cap hit?".Just trying to keep track.

There's not much to keep track of when you're just being a #####.

*lol* Sorry for questioning the mighty redmans gut! And what is Gibbs suppose to say, they don't like Portis anymore because he's always getting hurt?It's in their best interest to say he's the starter, he's a monster, we love him. But during the last half of 2006, if you offered Gibbs a 3rd rnd pick, and there's no cap hit, he would have driven Portis to the airport himself. But to claim there's no way Portis is dealt, is silly. I'm sure people in Washington felt the same way about Champ. So back to your main point of "Gibbs loves Portis, no chance he's traded". Is ######ed.