Coaching Style - Rex Ryan (1 Viewer)

[captain_amazing]

I've wondered for sometime now.... what do Jets fans think about Rex Ryan's coaching style?

Do you like the more vocal, outspoken, egocentric, intense confidence from a Rex Ryan?

Do you like the attention he, and the team, appear to feed upon?

Or do you prefer another style - if so, what? Let's assume Ryan is on one side of the coaching style spectrum and Belichick, with his "it is what it is" mannerisms, is on the other side of the spectrum. What type coaching style do you prefer along that spectrum and why?

 

[njherdfan]

I've wondered for sometime now.... what do Jets fans think about Rex Ryan's coaching style? Do you like the more vocal, outspoken, egocentric, intense confidence from a Rex Ryan?Do you like the attention he, and the team, appear to feed upon? Or do you prefer another style - if so, what? Let's assume Ryan is on one side of the coaching style spectrum and Belichick, with his "it is what it is" mannerisms, is on the other side of the spectrum. What type coaching style do you prefer along that spectrum and why?

I prefer wins, and Ryan has brought 2 straight winning seasons and playoff berths to the Jets. I don't really care or pay attention to his bluster; I'm more concerned about the team's lack of discipline and his defense's inability to generate pass rush.

 

[captain_amazing]

I've wondered for sometime now.... what do Jets fans think about Rex Ryan's coaching style?

Do you like the more vocal, outspoken, egocentric, intense confidence from a Rex Ryan?

Do you like the attention he, and the team, appear to feed upon?

Or do you prefer another style - if so, what? Let's assume Ryan is on one side of the coaching style spectrum and Belichick, with his "it is what it is" mannerisms, is on the other side of the spectrum. What type coaching style do you prefer along that spectrum and why?

I prefer wins, and Ryan has brought 2 straight winning seasons and playoff berths to the Jets. I don't really care or pay attention to his bluster; I'm more concerned about the team's lack of discipline and his defense's inability to generate pass rush.

To the bolded point: Do you think that is related to his personality, though? I know there are probably a number of factors that go into a team's discipline, or lack thereof, but I would think that there is some correlation there. But of course, his personality isn't going to affect the last point you made.

 

[az_prof]

I've wondered for sometime now.... what do Jets fans think about Rex Ryan's coaching style?

Do you like the more vocal, outspoken, egocentric, intense confidence from a Rex Ryan?

Do you like the attention he, and the team, appear to feed upon?

Or do you prefer another style - if so, what? Let's assume Ryan is on one side of the coaching style spectrum and Belichick, with his "it is what it is" mannerisms, is on the other side of the spectrum. What type coaching style do you prefer along that spectrum and why?

I prefer wins, and Ryan has brought 2 straight winning seasons and playoff berths to the Jets. I don't really care or pay attention to his bluster; I'm more concerned about the team's lack of discipline and his defense's inability to generate pass rush.

To the bolded point: Do you think that is related to his personality, though? I know there are probably a number of factors that go into a team's discipline, or lack thereof, but I would think that there is some correlation there. But of course, his personality isn't going to affect the last point you made.

Personality in the way you are discussing it is not a big factor in HC success IMO. 1) Talent evaluation

2) Game management

3) Organizational management

4) Ability to get good OC/DC and let them do their thing

The above are much more important than how loud or quiet a HC is on the sidelines.

 

[nysportsfan]

I've wondered for sometime now.... what do Jets fans think about Rex Ryan's coaching style?

Do you like the more vocal, outspoken, egocentric, intense confidence from a Rex Ryan? Yes, yes, and yes....as long as he wins.

Do you like the attention he, and the team, appear to feed upon? Yes...as long as he wins.

Or do you prefer another style - if so, what? Let's assume Ryan is on one side of the coaching style spectrum and Belichick, with his "it is what it is" mannerisms, is on the other side of the spectrum. What type coaching style do you prefer along that spectrum and why? Whomever wins. I'd take the Hood, and it's not close.

 

[Reaper]

I think a lot of it is blown out of proportion just a little with the NY media.

Every team, every player, every coach has the goal of, and speaks of the Super Bowl and has to believe they can do it.

Rex just says it more and to the NY Media.

Players love him and He's a great Defensive mind. Which is very important to me for a HC to be a "genius" at something and not another Herm Edwards.

He's a personality. I like it.

 

[Green and Gold]

As a football fan, I love Rex Ryan. He's the yang to Belichick's yin. He's a media goat and a media darling, but he's never boring. If you don't love him, you love to hate him.

As a Patriot's fan, I'm not entirely thrilled that he put the Jets/Patriots rivalry back on the map. I'd prefer it if they were the SOJ again.

 

[Rovers]

Fastest HC in the history of the franchise to 20 wins. Made the playoffs his first two years with a rookie QB. 3-1 in playoff games. I have no problem with his style. He makes the players believe in themselves. He makes sure the entire CS listens to the players when they have something to say and it's more than patronizing them, the CS makes changes based on their input. It really is a team approach, not a General sitting in a Jeep 20 miles behind the front lines. Ryan puts himself out there.

He's honest. That will get him in trouble a lot. But, I think the players respect that about him, as do I. You get exactly what you see with Ryan. There is no fence sitting. I do not believe for a split second that there is anymore lack of discipline than other coaches. Players get into trouble, they always have, always will. Players want to play for him with very few exceptions. While being a "player's HC", there is still no doubt who runs the team.

He genuinely believes his teams can go all the way. He really does. He instills that into his players, and they believe. That is not something Jets fans are used to... a winning attitude. Over the top? Probably only if you aren't a Jets fan.

What does bother me, and will always bother me is this internet stuff. That was over the top, personal or not, and an extreme embarrassment. No matter what he does, how much he might win, that legacy will never go away.

So, as for style, I have no issues with Ryan at all. I like what he does and how he does it with regards to style. A little over the top at times, but I think he is the best thing to happen to the Jets since Weeb Eubank.

 

[Patoons]

I think a lot of it is blown out of proportion just a little with the NY media. Every team, every player, every coach has the goal of, and speaks of the Super Bowl and has to believe they can do it.Rex just says it more and to the NY Media.Players love him and He's a great Defensive mind. Which is very important to me for a HC to be a "genius" at something and not another Herm Edwards.He's a personality. I like it.

 

[comfortably numb]

Fastest HC in the history of the franchise to 20 wins. Made the playoffs his first two years with a rookie QB. 3-1 in playoff games. I have no problem with his style. He makes the players believe in themselves. He makes sure the entire CS listens to the players when they have something to say and it's more than patronizing them, the CS makes changes based on their input. It really is a team approach, not a General sitting in a Jeep 20 miles behind the front lines. Ryan puts himself out there. He's honest. That will get him in trouble a lot. But, I think the players respect that about him, as do I. You get exactly what you see with Ryan. There is no fence sitting. I do not believe for a split second that there is anymore lack of discipline than other coaches. Players get into trouble, they always have, always will. Players want to play for him with very few exceptions. While being a "player's HC", there is still no doubt who runs the team. He genuinely believes his teams can go all the way. He really does. He instills that into his players, and they believe. That is not something Jets fans are used to... a winning attitude. Over the top? Probably only if you aren't a Jets fan. What does bother me, and will always bother me is this internet stuff. That was over the top, personal or not, and an extreme embarrassment. No matter what he does, how much he might win, that legacy will never go away. So, as for style, I have no issues with Ryan at all. I like what he does and how he does it with regards to style. A little over the top at times, but I think he is the best thing to happen to the Jets since Weeb Eubank.

See, even you got over the whole foot thing.Winning overcomes all.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Great article on Rex in Saturday's New York Times (go find it is worth a read), "Channeling Churchill, Ryan Inspires Team".

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/sports/f...n.html?emc=eta1

The speech that Ryan made before the Steeler game this year is talked about quite a bit in the article, "legendary" and the "most inspiring talk" that Woody Johnson ever heard.

Tells the story of Cortez in Mexico, knowingly outmanned instructed his troops to "burn the boats" (so that there could be no turning back) whilst he was only asking his troops to give him 3 hours. "Burn the boats" became the rallying call for the game.

Pyrce a 14-year vet says that he has heard it all in terms of "coachspeak" and most of the time one can immediately deem it to be BS coming from someone who has never been in a fistfight in his life, but what sets Rex apart is that the players immediately sense that he is "real" and will jump into the trenches to take someone's best shot with them.

There is a story of Raven/Cowboy game after Jason Garrett had turned down the Raven head coaching job (a job that DC Rex Ryan had coveted), Ryan took this personally and channeled the inherent put down into his defensive unit that in turn beat the Cowboys.

Rex doesn't have a filter and at times does not tone things down much when he talks to the media vs the team so he will always generate a lot of bulletin board material, although it is almost always in the context of building up his team and not taking low blows at the opponents.

Game management is a work-in-process (it was quite good vs Indy) and his use of challenges hasn't been great.

However, overall I think that Rex is the best coach that the JETS have had since Parcells (and we all knew even at the time that Bill was a carpetbagger who wouldn't be around too long).

 

[Kiddnets]

Fastest HC in the history of the franchise to 20 wins. Made the playoffs his first two years with a rookie QB. 3-1 in playoff games. I have no problem with his style. He makes the players believe in themselves. He makes sure the entire CS listens to the players when they have something to say and it's more than patronizing them, the CS makes changes based on their input. It really is a team approach, not a General sitting in a Jeep 20 miles behind the front lines. Ryan puts himself out there. He's honest. That will get him in trouble a lot. But, I think the players respect that about him, as do I. You get exactly what you see with Ryan. There is no fence sitting. I do not believe for a split second that there is anymore lack of discipline than other coaches. Players get into trouble, they always have, always will. Players want to play for him with very few exceptions. While being a "player's HC", there is still no doubt who runs the team. He genuinely believes his teams can go all the way. He really does. He instills that into his players, and they believe. That is not something Jets fans are used to... a winning attitude. Over the top? Probably only if you aren't a Jets fan. What does bother me, and will always bother me is this internet stuff. That was over the top, personal or not, and an extreme embarrassment. No matter what he does, how much he might win, that legacy will never go away. So, as for style, I have no issues with Ryan at all. I like what he does and how he does it with regards to style. A little over the top at times, but I think he is the best thing to happen to the Jets since Weeb Eubank.

Holtz, Wallt Michaels, Joe Walton, Coslet, Carroll, Kotite, Groh, Hermie, Mangini...how can you not love Rex. This is the Jets we are talking about - back to back playoff seasons are not common....back to back playoff wins on the road - at least divisional rds? Doubt its ever been done in green and white...even with the great Parcells. Is Rex perfect? far from it...but after the Mangini "process" hes exactly what this team needed and he makes it fun to be a Jet fan again.....as for the internet stuff....couldnt care less and with each playoff I dount anyone else cares as well except haters

 

[Kiddnets]

As a football fan, I love Rex Ryan. He's the yang to Belichick's yin. He's a media goat and a media darling, but he's never boring. If you don't love him, you love to hate him.As a Patriot's fan, I'm not entirely thrilled that he put the Jets/Patriots rivalry back on the map. I'd prefer it if they were the SOJ again.

Belichick must think Rex is the anti-Christ!

 

[captain_amazing]

Great article on Rex in Saturday's New York Times (go find it is worth a read), "Channeling Churchill, Ryan Inspires Team".

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/sports/f...n.html?emc=eta1

The speech that Ryan made before the Steeler game this year is talked about quite a bit in the article, "legendary" and the "most inspiring talk" that Woody Johnson ever heard.

Tells the story of Cortez in Mexico, knowingly outmanned instructed his troops to "burn the boats" (so that there could be no turning back) whilst he was only asking his troops to give him 3 hours. "Burn the boats" became the rallying call for the game.

Pyrce a 14-year vet says that he has heard it all in terms of "coachspeak" and most of the time one can immediately deem it to be BS coming from someone who has never been in a fistfight in his life, but what sets Rex apart is that the players immediately sense that he is "real" and will jump into the trenches to take someone's best shot with them.

There is a story of Raven/Cowboy game after Jason Garrett had turned down the Raven head coaching job (a job that DC Rex Ryan had coveted), Ryan took this personally and channeled the inherent put down into his defensive unit that in turn beat the Cowboys.

Rex doesn't have a filter and at times does not tone things down much when he talks to the media vs the team so he will always generate a lot of bulletin board material, although it is almost always in the context of building up his team and not taking low blows at the opponents.

Game management is a work-in-process (it was quite good vs Indy) and his use of challenges hasn't been great.

However, overall I think that Rex is the best coach that the JETS have had since Parcells (and we all knew even at the time that Bill was a carpetbagger who wouldn't be around too long).

Thanks for the article - a great read. When all you hear about Rex is from the media, its tough to really understand him. I always had respect for him (intertwined with divisional hatred), but have a lot more respect after reading the above posts and that article. Lots of good insight.

 

[Kiddnets]

Another thing I love about Rex is his Jet roots with his dad...he actually loves this team, understands the the same ol jet negatviity and knows that nothing short of a Super Bowl can change it....I think this is his dream job and he would love to be HC of the NYJ for the rest of his career...

 

[Rovers]

Fastest HC in the history of the franchise to 20 wins. Made the playoffs his first two years with a rookie QB. 3-1 in playoff games. I have no problem with his style. He makes the players believe in themselves. He makes sure the entire CS listens to the players when they have something to say and it's more than patronizing them, the CS makes changes based on their input. It really is a team approach, not a General sitting in a Jeep 20 miles behind the front lines. Ryan puts himself out there.

He's honest. That will get him in trouble a lot. But, I think the players respect that about him, as do I. You get exactly what you see with Ryan. There is no fence sitting. I do not believe for a split second that there is anymore lack of discipline than other coaches. Players get into trouble, they always have, always will. Players want to play for him with very few exceptions. While being a "player's HC", there is still no doubt who runs the team.

He genuinely believes his teams can go all the way. He really does. He instills that into his players, and they believe. That is not something Jets fans are used to... a winning attitude. Over the top? Probably only if you aren't a Jets fan.

What does bother me, and will always bother me is this internet stuff. That was over the top, personal or not, and an extreme embarrassment. No matter what he does, how much he might win, that legacy will never go away.

So, as for style, I have no issues with Ryan at all. I like what he does and how he does it with regards to style. A little over the top at times, but I think he is the best thing to happen to the Jets since Weeb Eubank.

See, even you got over the whole foot thing.

Winning overcomes all.

No... I'm not over the internet nonsense, and it will always be there, a part of whatever legacy Ryan leaves. Every time I see Ryan in a press conference, I flash back, and I want to puke. I think he's a great coach, but I also cannot argue with people who call him an idiot.

 

[David Yudkin]

It should be an interesting week. I wonder if Rex and the Jets will run their mouths again after the beat down they took in NE the last time.

 

[Chase Stuart]

It should be an interesting week. I wonder if Rex and the Jets will run their mouths again after the beat down they took in NE the last time.

Do you expect him to say he thinks they're going to lose? I suppose that's what Al Groh did before the Jets played the Ravens in 2000, but that wasn't well received, either.

 

[David Yudkin]

It should be an interesting week. I wonder if Rex and the Jets will run their mouths again after the beat down they took in NE the last time.

Do you expect him to say he thinks they're going to lose? I suppose that's what Al Groh did before the Jets played the Ravens in 2000, but that wasn't well received, either.

I don't expect any coach to say his team is going to lose, but the Jets were mouthing off something fierce that they were the best team in the league. They acted like Muhammad Ali and that they were the greatest. Thus why I wonder if they will tone it down some or if they will again ride the best thing since sliced bread rhetoric.

 

[Chase Stuart]

It should be an interesting week. I wonder if Rex and the Jets will run their mouths again after the beat down they took in NE the last time.

Do you expect him to say he thinks they're going to lose? I suppose that's what Al Groh did before the Jets played the Ravens in 2000, but that wasn't well received, either.

I don't expect any coach to say his team is going to lose, but the Jets were mouthing off something fierce that they were the best team in the league. They acted like Muhammad Ali and that they were the greatest. Thus why I wonder if they will tone it down some or if they will again ride the best thing since sliced bread rhetoric.

I think Ryan will say something like "The Patriots are really good, I have all the respect in the world for Brady and Belichick, but yeah, I think we're going to win. I think when we play New York Jets football, we're the best team in the league. They whipped our butts good last time, and it humbled us, but what can you do? I can tell you it's going to be a lot closer this time, and I think we're going to win. I really do. They're great, but we just need to do our thing and we will beat anyone we play."

 

[David Yudkin]

I think BB laid the framework for Ryan already as to what coaches might want to say. BB said everyone starts over in the post season and the 45-3 game doesn't matter at this point. Jets are very familiar with NE, third matchup of the season, always a tough game, all games are tough in the playoffs and very physical, a few plays or bounces going the other way could make the difference, expecting a dogfight from a tough opponent.