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Ambidextrous pitcher one of a kind

Apr. 27, 2006. 08:00 PM

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Pat Venditte Sr. came up with the idea when he was tossing a ball to his 3-year-old son in the backyard.

Wouldn't it be neat if he could get Pat Jr., a natural right-hander, to throw equally well with his left?

Neat, indeed.

Now "Little Pat," as his dad calls him, is the only active switch pitcher in Division I baseball and one of the few ambidextrous hurlers in the history of the sport.

The sophomore is a middle reliever for Creighton. And just as Dad hoped, Pat Jr. is equally good with both arms, his coaches and statistics say.

"I have average stuff from both sides, and I really think it takes me to pitch with both arms even to be a little bit effective here," Venditte said. "It throws the hitters off and it gives me the advantage almost every at-bat. I need every inch I can take.''

Venditte's ERA is 2.36 as a righty and 2.92 as a lefty. He retired all six batters he faced in two innings against Kansas on Wednesday — three as a righty, three as a lefty. He had a strikeout with each arm.

If you think Creighton got two pitchers for the price of one, you would be wrong. Venditte is a walk-on who, as Creighton coach Ed Servais said, "recruited us.''

Venditte told Servais he would pay his own way if he got a chance to pitch. The coach didn't make any promises, but was impressed with Venditte's determination and competitiveness.

Venditte's strength is location, not power. He throws around 80 mph as a lefty and about 85 mph as a righty.

"If you look at talent alone, Pat shouldn't be doing what he's doing," Servais said. "But he has a different drive than most players in our program. He's a grinder.''

Venditte worked 3 2-3 innings last season as a freshman, all right-handed.

He pitched both ways for the first time as a collegian on Feb. 17 against Illinois-Chicago. He now has done it in 17 of his 23 appearances.

"The first couple times we were hesitant because of my respect for baseball," Servais said. "I didn't want it to be a sideshow.''

But Venditte has proved himself. He's 2-1, and his combined ERA of 2.51 is third-best on the team. A bonus is that, theoretically, he can do twice the work of a regular pitcher, Servais said.

"If another guy throws 30 pitches one day, I know I'm not going to be able to use him the next day," Servais said. "With Pat, if he throws 30 pitches, and 15 are right-handed and 15 are left-handed, I know I can come back to him tomorrow.''

Venditte's repertoire even changes with the arm: fastball, curveball, changeup as a righty; fastball, slider, changeup as a lefty.

Venditte wears an ambidextrous glove that has two thumb holes and four finger holes. His father has been ordering the tailor-made gloves, at almost $700 each, from the Mizuno factory in Osaka, Japan, since his son was 7.

The rules require Venditte to declare which way he's going to pitch before each batter steps into the box. If a switch hitter is due up, pitching coach Travis Wyckoff will signal to Venditte which arm to use based on the scouting report.

Venditte's two-armed routine has drawn plenty of double-takes from opponents and fans. Senior reliever Scott Reese said he thought Venditte was a freak when he first saw him work. The novelty has since worn off.

"Some people think we're doing it just for attention, but he does a phenomenal job from both sides," Reese said. "It's not so much the comments you hear when Pat pitches. It's more the facial reactions, especially on the guys who aren't paying much attention when he's warming up. It completely catches them off off-guard. We get a kick out of that.''

Harvard's Matt Brunnig is the only other known ambidextrous pitcher in Division I this season, though he's thrown just right-handed so far.

The best-known major league switch pitchers were Tony Mullane and Greg Harris. Mullane, who pitched in the 1880s and '90s, wore no glove and would face the batter with both hands on the ball before throwing it with either one. Harris, using both arms, pitched one inning of scoreless relief for the Montreal Expos on Sept. 28, 1995.

"I remember watching that on 'SportsCenter,'" Venditte said.

By then, Venditte was throwing both ways with ease and befuddling batters in youth league games.

Pat Sr. said he used special drills to hone his son's switch pitching. He would have Little Pat throw footballs left-handed to build strength and muscle memory, and he would have him punt footballs left-footed to develop the leg kick needed for pitching.

"There was no book, no reference material for me to go from,'' the senior Venditte said. "It's not something that can be done overnight or within a month or year. It requires extensive time and practice. I wish there were an easy way. I don't know that he has reached his full potential yet because he's still getting bigger and stronger.''

And his son is happy Venditte Sr. took the time to train him when he was young.

"It's second nature now," the younger Venditte said. "You don't even think about it. You put on the glove and it comes naturally. If you start out young enough, anybody can do it.''

 
I believe it was Billy Wagner that used to be a righty and blew up his arm early - actually, I believe it was wrecked after being broken in a football game.

Wagner took to throwing lefty, and the rest is history.

 
If this is such a rarity and all, why is there a rule that mandates he declare which arm he will pitch with? :confused:

IMHO, he should be able to switch mid batter. :thumbup:

 
Wonder what happens when a switch hitter comes to the plate?? That could be interesting.

ETA: What fatguy said :bag:

 
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A while back there was a MLB pitcher named Greg Harris (played for Red Sox for a while) who could pitch R/L and had a special glove made for himself. He pitched both ways in a game in 1995.

Link.

 
A while back there was a MLB pitcher named Greg Harris (played for Red Sox for a while) who could pitch R/L and had a special glove made for himself. He pitched both ways in a game in 1995.

Link.

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I was thinking there was a pitcher named Davis that could pitch either handed for the Rangers a while back... after seeing your post, I am wondering if my memory is that bad... going to look now :unsure: Edited to add that Harris did play for the Rangers, so I guess I got part of it right.

 
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It would be cool to see the manager wander out to the mound in the 9th and say, "Nice effort Pat, but we're bringing in Pat to finish this one off."

 
There was another college player who did the same thing a few years back. He would start as a righty, then do relief work as a lefty between starts.

 
Can a batter switch from right to left in the middle of a count?

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Up until he gets a strike.
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Wrong. Batter can switch any time he wants.
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No. You can switch until you get a strike. 0-0, 1-0, 2-0, 3-0 you can switch. Once you get a strike you have to stay. Only exception might be on a pitching change. I switch hit in hs and in some blow out games wanted to hit right until a strike even against a righty pitcher since I had a lot more power from that side and then switch back if I got down in the count to have my normal advantage against a curveball. You can't do it.Look up the rule if you have to. You're wrong.

 
If this is such a rarity and all, why is there a rule that mandates he declare which arm he will pitch with?  :confused:

IMHO, he should be able to switch mid batter.  :thumbup:
:goodposting: That's what I was thinking. That would really mess up the hitters.
Wouldn't work unless he got some universal glove that worked on both hands. Baseball rules bar a pitcher from putting any equipment on the mound that it bigger than a rosin bag.
 
If this is such a rarity and all, why is there a rule that mandates he declare which arm he will pitch with?  :confused:

IMHO, he should be able to switch mid batter.  :thumbup:
:goodposting: That's what I was thinking. That would really mess up the hitters.
Wouldn't work unless he got some universal glove that worked on both hands. Baseball rules bar a pitcher from putting any equipment on the mound that it bigger than a rosin bag.
He has a custom glove that fits both hands. In the video of him warming up he threw one left handed and put the glove on the other hand and threw the next right handed. The article has a pic of his custom made glove. Two thumb holes, cool.
 
If this is such a rarity and all, why is there a rule that mandates he declare which arm he will pitch with? :confused:

IMHO, he should be able to switch mid batter. :thumbup:
:goodposting: That's what I was thinking. That would really mess up the hitters.
Wouldn't work unless he got some universal glove that worked on both hands. Baseball rules bar a pitcher from putting any equipment on the mound that it bigger than a rosin bag.
He does have a universal glove, so he can switch between batters. But he has to declare which arm he'll use to throw before the at-bat.
 
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If this is such a rarity and all, why is there a rule that mandates he declare which arm he will pitch with? :confused:

IMHO, he should be able to switch mid batter. :thumbup:
:goodposting: That's what I was thinking. That would really mess up the hitters.
Wouldn't work unless he got some universal glove that worked on both hands. Baseball rules bar a pitcher from putting any equipment on the mound that it bigger than a rosin bag.
He does have a universal glove, so he can switch between batters. But he has to declare which arm he'll use to throw before the at-bat.
:goodposting: Thats correct Chase
 
Is every thread that has anything whatsoever to do with baseball going to be moved to this forum?

I like the idea of a separate forum for people to discuss the day-to-day happening in MLB, but taking this out of the FFA seems a little much.

 
Is every thread that has anything whatsoever to do with baseball going to be moved to this forum?I like the idea of a separate forum for people to discuss the day-to-day happening in MLB, but taking this out of the FFA seems a little much.
Hopefully, every thread that has to do with baseball will just be posted here. :)In the beginning, we'll move more threads just to try and increase exposure to this forum. It will need some help in building it up. Ideally, it will end up being like the SP for football.
 

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