Collusion? (1 Viewer)

[yinzer]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

 

[Our Gang]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)QB - Brees, BradyRB - LT, Maroney, FosterWR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMossTE - Shockey, LJSmithK - ElamIDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewisTeam B (2-9, 10th place)QB - VickRB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, JacobsWR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, JenningsTE - DanielsK - KaedingIDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, WareTrade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets BreesThe biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.Additional points of note:-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

 

[DoubleG]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)QB - Brees, BradyRB - LT, Maroney, FosterWR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMossTE - Shockey, LJSmithK - ElamIDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewisTeam B (2-9, 10th place)QB - VickRB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, JacobsWR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, JenningsTE - DanielsK - KaedingIDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, WareTrade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets BreesThe biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.Additional points of note:-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

 

[Mudcrab]

Agree with the above two posters - in itself nothing wrong with the trade (seems fair on a player talent level). The situation of each team in the league does seem to point to the need to have some kind of trade deadline. IMHO, I am afraid you will have great difficulty in convincing the majority of your league it is collusion, although given the standings of each team it does seem fishy. Then again, maybe Team B just wants to close out the seaon with a bang!

 

[yinzer]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)QB - Brees, BradyRB - LT, Maroney, FosterWR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMossTE - Shockey, LJSmithK - ElamIDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewisTeam B (2-9, 10th place)QB - VickRB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, JacobsWR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, JenningsTE - DanielsK - KaedingIDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, WareTrade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets BreesThe biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.Additional points of note:-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

 

[fsufan]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

this would not fly with me

 

[Stealthycat]

collusion - no

fire sale - yes

I wouldn't allow that I don't think ..........

 

[Mudcrab]

If Brady gets injured in the next few weeks, Team A is going to regret this trade Big Time! i would imagine there is very little in the QB department on most WWs.

 

[fsufan]

redraft, keeper, dynasty?

if it is a redraft league than I think it is fishy trade

keeper or dynasty it is a OK trade.

 

[fsufan]

If Brady gets injured in the next few weeks, Team A is going to regret this trade Big Time! i would imagine there is very little in the QB department on most WWs.

i would not of traded Bress. he is on pace for almost 5000 passing yards

 

[yinzer]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

this would not fly with me

Im gonna tell him the same thing. Luckily im back in the hometown for the holidays, so Ill see him this weekend. I even remember specifically asking/telling him (the commish) back in august before I decided to join the league that I don't want any fishy business going on with trades in situations exactly like this. Y'all are probably right that I'll have trouble overturning it due to the rules/circumstances, but I would think the other guys who are in the playoffs or have a shot at the championship would be in the same boat as me and say this trade is BS

 

[fsufan]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

this would not fly with me

Im gonna tell him the same thing. Luckily im back in the hometown for the holidays, so Ill see him this weekend. I even remember specifically asking/telling him (the commish) back in august before I decided to join the league that I don't want any fishy business going on with trades in situations exactly like this. Y'all are probably right that I'll have trouble overturning it due to the rules/circumstances, but I would think the other guys who are in the playoffs or have a shot at the championship would be in the same boat as me and say this trade is BS

is the commish Team A or B?

 

[yinzer]

If Brady gets injured in the next few weeks, Team A is going to regret this trade Big Time! i would imagine there is very little in the QB department on most WWs.

i would not of traded Bress. he is on pace for almost 5000 passing yards

League Rules:1 pt/40 pass yds, 4 TDS, -2 INTs, +2/300 yd gameYards are very underemphasized in the rules IMO, and picks have a pretty big impact bc of that. You can have a QB who throws 1/1 or 2/2 and barely get any pts...I got less than 8 pts for Gore's 212 yd game...lets just say I have complaints

 

[yinzer]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

this would not fly with me

Im gonna tell him the same thing. Luckily im back in the hometown for the holidays, so Ill see him this weekend. I even remember specifically asking/telling him (the commish) back in august before I decided to join the league that I don't want any fishy business going on with trades in situations exactly like this. Y'all are probably right that I'll have trouble overturning it due to the rules/circumstances, but I would think the other guys who are in the playoffs or have a shot at the championship would be in the same boat as me and say this trade is BS

is the commish Team A or B?

Commish is neither of the teams involved in the trade. He's the one (only one) who could change trade deadline though and from everything I know, did it by his own choice

 

[hellz_fireflies]

To me it's a fair trade...it's not collusion if it benefits both teams..team A needed a good WR and gave up a good QB for it..team B knows like all Brees is hot so wanted him.

Now as for the team B record 2-9 and out of the playoff picture for sure..means nothing..I play to win no matter what the record is..even with a losing record it's fun to knock out a team trying for a playoff spot so why end it!And I believe this is what teamB is thinking...you don't play teamB do ya???

 

[smcindoe]

Fair deal.

Maybe Team B just wants to improve his team. Even though he's out of the playoff hunt his games will still matter to the overall league standings. Would you rather he stopped caring and mailed it in the rest of the way?

 

[War Eagle]

It may be collusion...it may not be.

The only thing that matters in a trade is value for value and in this case it's a fair trade.

You do however need to implement other rules if this trade bothers you.

1. Trade dealine.....my leagues all do a deadline 3 weeks prior to the first week of the playoffs.

2. Teams that have been MATHEMATICALLY eliminated are not allowed to trade! In addition, they can not drop any of their starters. They can and should put in their best lineup each week.

Brees for Walker is a fair trade and you have to approve.

You can use it to your benefit though. Use any anger the league has and get them behind you for the rule changes.

I've been in 3 leagues for 7+ years and if there's one thing that always happens......people WILL exploit the rules. So year in and year out, look back at events the league did not agree on and implement rules.

The more rules a league has, the funner it is!

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

this would not fly with me

This would be an issue with me also. Structure of the league is set BEFORE the season, not during it.I am in a bunch of leagues with strange rules. The rules define each league. A trade deadline affects both add/drop and trades leading up to the deadline. Deadlines create situations that force people make tough decisions. Removing the rule changes the nature of the league midstream.

I would not be OK with the rule change either, nevermind the ethics of the trade. I would petition on the basis of the rule change, not the trade.

But I would have done it immediately after the rule change went into effect. Now it seems like sour grapes.

 

[War Eagle]

Please give me some input on what you guys think about this. The more opinions the better.

Team A (7-4, 3rd place out of 10)

QB - Brees, Brady

RB - LT, Maroney, Foster

WR - AJohnson, Bruce, Holmes, SMoss

TE - Shockey, LJSmith

K - Elam

IDP - Peppers, Porter, Polamalu, RLewis

Team B (2-9, 10th place)

QB - Vick

RB - Edge, Bush, Rhodes, Lundy, Jacobs

WR - Walker, Fitz, Stallworth, Jennings

TE - Daniels

K - Kaeding

IDP - Haggans, RWilliams, Cole, Ware

Trade: Team A gets Walker, Team B gets Brees

The biggest reason why I call this collusion is because Team B is clearly and mathematically out of it. No matter what, the trade has no impact on him. While player for player this trade might not be that unreasonable (I have a feeling it was done that way to make it appear more legitimate), Team A is really losing nothing and getting a top notch player at his weakest position. The only reason I feel Team B agrees to this trade is because it has no effect on his team/place.

Additional points of note:

-Theres $$$ on the line. First place gets 100$ (thats a lot for us college kids)

-Everyone in the league went to highschool together. Im better friends with some than others. Im pretty sure these 2 are good friends

-The commissioner is likely out of the playoffs. He needs to win out the next 2 weeks just to have a shot. Im not sure how much he'll do to cancel the trade or say its no good after the fact if it goes through.

Thanks in advance for the help

Next year institute a rule that trades aren't allowed from teams that e;imanted from the playoffs.

In most redraft leagues this is standard to avoid this situation. Simply ask Team B what his motivation is for making the trade (if he is eliminated the only *honest* answer that can be given is to help Team A). Obviously if this were a keeper league, OR if you award a prize for total points my point is moot, but if there is nothing Team B can gain by making this trade, then it makes no sense.

This is the first year I/we did this league. There WAS a trade deadline that probably ended 2 weeks ago I want to say, but the commish cancelled it to no trade deadline....If this goes through, I may talk to my homeboy and see if hell trade an "underperforming" Larry Johnson for my up and coming Ronnie Brown..Ill fight fire with fire if it comes down to it. My team is too good to let something like this ruin my season and possible championship run

this would not fly with me

This would be an issue with me also. Structure of the league is set BEFORE the season, not during it.I am in a bunch of leagues with strange rules. The rules define each league. A trade deadline affects both add/drop and trades leading up to the deadline. Deadlines create situations that force people make tough decisions. Removing the rule changes the nature of the league midstream.

I would not be OK with the rule change either, nevermind the ethics of the trade. I would petition on the basis of the rule change, not the trade.

But I would have done it immediately after the rule change went into effect. Now it seems like sour grapes.

Whoa whoa whoa....I did not notice this.

If there is one rule that stands above ALL RULES....it's.....

RULE ALPHA - there can be no rule changes after the draft! All rules must be set PRIOR to the draft.

Strategy is often dictated by the rules. Changing the rules mid stream is a league breaker!

 

[kbreaker]

Fair deal.Maybe Team B just wants to improve his team. Even though he's out of the playoff hunt his games will still matter to the overall league standings. Would you rather he stopped caring and mailed it in the rest of the way?

Nothing to see here.

 

[Bri]

VOTE

if it's close like this, just vote.

 

[smcindoe]

VOTE

if it's close like this, just vote.

Never vote. Voting is a terrible way to settle trade disputes. Everyone will vote their own best interests, which usually leads to the deal being turned down (because it might actually help somebody).You need to have clearly stated veto rules up front (and preferably, those rules should be "we don't veto").

 

[Bri]

VOTE

if it's close like this, just vote.

Never vote. Voting is a terrible way to settle trade disputes. Everyone will vote their own best interests, which usually leads to the deal being turned down (because it might actually help somebody).You need to have clearly stated veto rules up front (and preferably, those rules should be "we don't veto").

I don't disagree on the latter but as was brought out it's not in his rules. IMO that requires a vote then. Little off on a tangent-I have been in a number of leagues where someone took advantage of a "loophole". At times there's a "good thinking" thought and at other times it's "you *&%$ even if it's not in the rules, how is that fair?" and league votes have done the trick.

 

[PegCityPimp]

VOTE

if it's close like this, just vote.

Never vote. Voting is a terrible way to settle trade disputes. Everyone will vote their own best interests, which usually leads to the deal being turned down (because it might actually help somebody).You need to have clearly stated veto rules up front (and preferably, those rules should be "we don't veto").

Voting on an issue mid season will only result in people pushing their own agenda. In this case you have to hope you have a good commish who can be impartial and settle the argument. Then add a rule mid season.

I think the trade should stand--Brees is having a great season regardless the scoring system

 

[Bri]

VOTE

if it's close like this, just vote.

Never vote. Voting is a terrible way to settle trade disputes. Everyone will vote their own best interests, which usually leads to the deal being turned down (because it might actually help somebody).You need to have clearly stated veto rules up front (and preferably, those rules should be "we don't veto").

Voting on an issue mid season will only result in people pushing their own agenda. In this case you have to hope you have a good commish who can be impartial and settle the argument. Then add a rule mid season.

I think the trade should stand--Brees is having a great season regardless the scoring system

I don't feel the commish should create rules midseason either. Ruling against the trade would be doing that IMO.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Not collusion.

 

[Courtjester]

redraft, keeper, dynasty?if it is a redraft league than I think it is fishy tradekeeper or dynasty it is a OK trade.

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[PatsWillWin]

Not collusion.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

He's deep at WR so Brees is a huge upgrade over Vick. Fair trade.

 

[schooner44]

The problem at hand is not the presence of colusion (because it is NOT colusion) but the lack of a trade deadline. This is a failure by the commissioner/setup committee. Learn from your mistakes and move on--there's nothing more to see here.

 

[Daywalker]

The contending team should be able to capitalize on their depth. It's a good trade for both teams.

 

[Phurfur]

Commish is neither of the teams involved in the trade. He's the one (only one) who could change trade deadline though and from everything I know, did it by his own choice

What kind of a league is this if it let's the Commish change the rules mid season. As far as the trade goes; shut up, beat his ### and quit this loser league next year.