Colston for Dynasty Rookie Draft Picks (1 Viewer)

[sspunisher]

...If anything. I love Colston, but he's 28 and I rather get rid of him a few years early than 1 year too late. I'm curious for those of you who would want to acquire him, what you'd give up for him. He's still the #1 in a potent offense so I think the return should be decent.

Something I'd like to get for him is a 2011 2nd and 3rd (Top half of the draft) and maybe a 2012 1st or 2nd.

Where do you see his value compared with rookie draft picks?

 

[JuSt CuZ]

T-minues 2 seconds before this is moved to the A/C forum.

It clearly states above, asking advice belongs there.

 

[lynx4ben]

...If anything. I love Colston, but he's 28 and I rather get rid of him a few years early than 1 year too late. I'm curious for those of you who would want to acquire him, what you'd give up for him. He's still the #1 in a potent offense so I think the return should be decent. Something I'd like to get for him. Remember Rookie Draft:I GiveColstonI Receive2011 2nd and 3rd (Top half of the draft)2012 1st or 2nd.Sound good or a bit pricey? I'd like examples of what you'd give up for him. Draft Picks Only Please.

If I had a win now team I'd put him at late first this year. I probably wouldn't give a future first.

 

[sspunisher]

T-minues 2 seconds before this is moved to the A/C forum.It clearly states above, asking advice belongs there.

How is this asking advice? I removed the tables, it's gauging his value in Dynasty Leagues.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

T-minues 2 seconds before this is moved to the A/C forum.It clearly states above, asking advice belongs there.

Remove the specific part about his potential trade and turn it into a M. Colston value discussion. It's more valuable than the board cop posts.I probably wouldn't give more than a 3rd for Colston. I don't trust his knees at all and I think he is a sell; not a buy.

 

[sspunisher]

T-minues 2 seconds before this is moved to the A/C forum.It clearly states above, asking advice belongs there.

Remove the specific part about his potential trade and turn it into a M. Colston value discussion. It's more valuable than the board cop posts.I probably wouldn't give more than a 3rd for Colston. I don't trust his knees at all and I think he is a sell; not a buy.

Yea I realized the tables made it look like a "Help me with this trade" post. I'm not as worried about his knees as some people, he's not a speedster anyway, his whole game is body position, size and his great hands. That chemistry with Brees helps.Correct me if I'm wrong but check this out:2010 Offseason: Right Knee Scope2010 Stats: 84 Rec, 1023 Yards, 7 TDs2009 Offseason Left Knee Micro-Fracture Surgery2009 Stats: 70 Rec, 1074 Yards, 9 TDs2008 was a thumb injury, not his knees, huge difference. People seem to associate that missed time in 2008 with his knees.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

T-minues 2 seconds before this is moved to the A/C forum.It clearly states above, asking advice belongs there.

Remove the specific part about his potential trade and turn it into a M. Colston value discussion. It's more valuable than the board cop posts.I probably wouldn't give more than a 3rd for Colston. I don't trust his knees at all and I think he is a sell; not a buy.

I agree with this post. The Colston owner in my main keeper league shopped Colston late last year for a 1st rounder or maybe even a early secon, and did not even get a response. I also think he is a sell, as Brees is getting older as well and other receiving threats are emerging on that team also (Graham, Meachem).

 

[sihaokills]

Move to AC

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

a 3rd round pick for colston?

geez

mid to late first IMO.

He is certainly still Drews favorite target and Lance moore is a UFA, plus Reggie wont be back. A bigger pie of the pie might be coming his way.

 

[sspunisher]

a 3rd round pick for colston? geezmid to late first IMO. He is certainly still Drews favorite target and Lance moore is a UFA, plus Reggie wont be back. A bigger pie of the pie might be coming his way.

Yea that's nonsense. Not saying they're wrong, you obviously don't have to like a player. But he's definitely worth more than a 3rd in a rookie draft. If you look at the ADP of the rookies usually taken in the 3rd round, almost all owners in any Dynasty Startup would take Colston over any of them. Meaning the value doesn't match up.

 

[Instinctive]

Wow. I would send anything later than 1.05 or so, and probably wouldn't even hesitate.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Wow. I would send anything later than 1.05 or so, and probably wouldn't even hesitate.

rally outside of the top3 picks I wouldnt move Colston for anyone else in this draft. But thats totally dependent on team situation as well

 

[bengalbuck]

I have a hard time figuring out 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 in rookie draft picks for some reason (I wish there was a draft pick value chart).

That being said, for a single pick, I think he's pretty easily worth a late 1st rounder. For a little context, I recently did a dynasty startup draft (with no rookies in it, rookie draft separate) and Colston went mid-5th round. If rookies were included in the startup draft, I doubt any outside of the top 3 would have been selected in the first 5 rounds. I'm guessing Ryan Williams, Greg Little, etc. would have come off pretty soon after that though, so based on my draft, I'd say my league values him as more of a mid-1st rounder.

 

[Faust]

Just having a quick look on the staff dynasty rankings and for rookie WRs they have Colston ranked after Green and Jones but before Greg Little and Baldwin

For rookie RBs they have Colston ranked after Ingram, Ryan Williams, Leshoure and Thomas but he is ranked before Vereen, Carter, Helu, etc.

This suggests that the FBG staff consensus rankings have Colston worth somewhere around rookie pick 1.06 to 1.08 so if you can give up a second or third round rookie pick for Colston, then it looks like a very good deal (assuming that you are not in a complete rebuilding mode).

 

[Crippler]

Just having a quick look on the staff dynasty rankings and for rookie WRs they have Colston ranked after Green and Jones but before Greg Little and BaldwinFor rookie RBs they have Colston ranked after Ingram, Ryan Williams, Leshoure and Thomas but he is ranked before Vereen, Carter, Helu, etc.This suggests that the FBG staff consensus rankings have Colston worth somewhere around rookie pick 1.06 to 1.08 so if you can give up a second or third round rookie pick for Colston, then it looks like a very good deal (assuming that you are not in a complete rebuilding mode).

As an owner of Colston, I am not trading him for this. I will wait till he starts the season off hot instead. He is a key ingredient to any team competing

 

[Faust]

Just having a quick look on the staff dynasty rankings and for rookie WRs they have Colston ranked after Green and Jones but before Greg Little and BaldwinFor rookie RBs they have Colston ranked after Ingram, Ryan Williams, Leshoure and Thomas but he is ranked before Vereen, Carter, Helu, etc.This suggests that the FBG staff consensus rankings have Colston worth somewhere around rookie pick 1.06 to 1.08 so if you can give up a second or third round rookie pick for Colston, then it looks like a very good deal (assuming that you are not in a complete rebuilding mode).

As an owner of Colston, I am not trading him for this. I will wait till he starts the season off hot instead. He is a key ingredient to any team competing

Colston is a streaky player, so he could have more value to a contending team during the season once he goes off on a hot streak, but last year that didn't happen until week 7 onward, so I know his trade value was cool in most of my leagues last year in the first half of th e season, and by the time he was hot again our trade deadlines had all past. Even if he gets off to an early hot streak, I don't think you would be able to move up into a 2012 pick in the 1.01 to 1.04 range for Colston.

 

[hostile]

Correct me if I'm wrong but check this out:

2011 Offseason: Right Knee Microfracture Surgery

2010 December: Right Knee Scope

2010 Stats: 84 Rec, 1023 Yards, 7 TDs

2009 Offseason Left Knee Micro-Fracture Surgery

2009 Stats: 70 Rec, 1074 Yards, 9 TDs

2008 was a thumb injury, not his knees, huge difference. People seem to associate that missed time in 2008 with his knees.

Corrected.

I dont own Colston, but there is no way I'd be trying to buy him. If I owned, I'd sell. He's 28 with the knees of a 35 yr old. Two microfracture surgeries in two years; one to each knee. No way I'd give up a rookie first, even a late one (I'd rather have a guy like Hankerson or Cobb).

I'm buying Robert Meachem in that offense.

 

[Dez]

I have a hard time figuring out 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 in rookie draft picks for some reason (I wish there was a draft pick value chart).

That being said, for a single pick, I think he's pretty easily worth a late 1st rounder. For a little context, I recently did a dynasty startup draft (with no rookies in it, rookie draft separate) and Colston went mid-5th round. If rookies were included in the startup draft, I doubt any outside of the top 3 would have been selected in the first 5 rounds. I'm guessing Ryan Williams, Greg Little, etc. would have come off pretty soon after that though, so based on my draft, I'd say my league values him as more of a mid-1st rounder.

There is a draft pick value chart for rookie only drafts. I got mine in the RSP.

 

[sspunisher]

That being said, for a single pick, I think he's pretty easily worth a late 1st rounder. For a little context, I recently did a dynasty startup draft (with no rookies in it, rookie draft separate) and Colston went mid-5th round. If rookies were included in the startup draft, I doubt any outside of the top 3 would have been selected in the first 5 rounds. I'm guessing Ryan Williams, Greg Little, etc. would have come off pretty soon after that though, so based on my draft, I'd say my league values him as more of a mid-1st rounder.

Exactly the way I see it. If Colston was the only veteran on the board in a rookie draft, he'd most likely be picked somewhere between 1.04 and 1.10 depending on individual teams. And he'll definitely be outscoring every rookie. Let's keep in mind that most WRs come on a few years after they are drafted, around 25 or 26 years old. Colston happened to be one of the rare breed that came on immediately, so he seems way older than he really is. Yea he's a veteran who's been productive for 6 years, but he's only 28. And while I understand the injury risk, it won't affect his "box the defender out" receiving style.

 

[Moonlight]

I'd be conservative. All the knee injuries/surgeries for Colston including microfractures in both of them would cause me to be cautious. But I may be too much so. Sometimes the bottom just drops out like Antonio Bryant, We do not know how his play will be effected this year.

If you like Colstonb's prospects you'd probably like this recent trade that went down in a 14 team dynasty. Not draft picks but ameasure of value.

Team A receives:

Knoshown Moreno

Kenny britt

2012 2nd (likely to be low)

Team B receives:

Maurice jones drew

Marcus colston

 

[bengalbuck]

I have a hard time figuring out 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 in rookie draft picks for some reason (I wish there was a draft pick value chart).

That being said, for a single pick, I think he's pretty easily worth a late 1st rounder. For a little context, I recently did a dynasty startup draft (with no rookies in it, rookie draft separate) and Colston went mid-5th round. If rookies were included in the startup draft, I doubt any outside of the top 3 would have been selected in the first 5 rounds. I'm guessing Ryan Williams, Greg Little, etc. would have come off pretty soon after that though, so based on my draft, I'd say my league values him as more of a mid-1st rounder.

There is a draft pick value chart for rookie only drafts. I got mine in the RSP.

What is the RSP?

 

[cr8f]

I traded him for the 1.10 and 4.10 last year which became Baldwin and Alex Green (PPR)

RSP is Waldman's Rookie Scouting Portfolio

 

[az_prof]

...If anything. I love Colston, but he's 28 and I rather get rid of him a few years early than 1 year too late. I'm curious for those of you who would want to acquire him, what you'd give up for him. He's still the #1 in a potent offense so I think the return should be decent. Something I'd like to get for him is a 2011 2nd and 3rd (Top half of the draft) and maybe a 2012 1st or 2nd.Where do you see his value compared with rookie draft picks?

His value is no where near what you want. The thing is most other dynasty owners see the writing on the wall too. It isn't just his age, but the multiple knee surgeries.He is someone I wouldn't mind acquiring, but I am not going to go after him aggressively. The most I would give for him would be a rookie. 1.4-1.06. I would not give up even one top 3 rookie pick.

 

[Instinctive]

I'd be conservative. All the knee injuries/surgeries for Colston including microfractures in both of them would cause me to be cautious. But I may be too much so. Sometimes the bottom just drops out like Antonio Bryant, We do not know how his play will be effected this year.If you like Colstonb's prospects you'd probably like this recent trade that went down in a 14 team dynasty. Not draft picks but ameasure of value.Team A receives:Knoshown MorenoKenny britt2012 2nd (likely to be low)Team B receives:Maurice jones drewMarcus colston

Man, I would trade those guys just for MJD. Getting Colston there is a gigantic bonus.