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[eefflrat]

from rotoworld:

Saints beat writer Mike Triplett mentions in his blog that Marques Colston is recovering from "a microfracture surgery procedure on his left knee."

We knew Colston had knee surgery in January, but the Saints only said it would be a scope. Triplett, however, says Colston was found to have "a small hole he had worn in his kneecap." Colston had his knee scoped last offseason, so that he needed a more extensive operation this year isn't too surprising. But it's a concern for his future and availability for training camp.

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How concerned are people?

 

[Matt Waldman]

Yikes...not liking that at all. It feels like he's been falling apart since year two...anyone know if this surgery is still considered minor in comparison to other knee surgeries?

 

[RudeDog]

I probably shouldn't be - but I'm very concerned. After last years injury and then continued dependence upon Lance by Brees, I'm thinking he will underperform his draft position.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

 

[LawFitz]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

sneaky play, nice.

 

[LawFitz]

I'm suddenly scared of the Saints just a little bit. #1 RB microfracture, #1 WR microfracture. I took Bush in a recent FBG mock draft, but that was before I read that he feels 75% right now. Yikes.

Uptight Pierre Thomas and Meachem. Especially with Lance Moore hurt too.

Downtick Drew Brees a bit I would think.

 

[supermark_28]

Tremblay might have had some insight on this one,he had Colston ranked #23 in the Redraft rankings on 5/21.

 

[finito]

Uptight Pierre Thomas and Meachem.

I've heard Pierre is pretty laid back actually. But yes, microfracture on two of the best offensive players is worrisome to say the least.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

This news bothers me as well. He was dinged up a long time last year and looked slow when he did return. I don't think I'll be buying this year.

 

[gianmarco]

I'm suddenly scared of the Saints just a little bit. #1 RB microfracture, #1 WR microfracture. I took Bush in a recent FBG mock draft, but that was before I read that he feels 75% right now. Yikes.

Uptight Pierre Thomas and Meachem. Especially with Lance Moore hurt too.



Downtick Drew Brees a bit I would think.

Because he did so poorly without those guys last year?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

This was actually tucked into a Saints practice report yesterday, too. They are acting like it's minor, but Colston's record of durability is troubling. While Meachem is playing faster and getting some kudos in OTAs, another name to remember if Colston goes down is Adrian Arrington.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The cog in the entire offense is Drew Brees. He's done well with Colston, done well with Moore, done well in SD, done well inside, done well outside, the guy is money.

I will simply sy this...keep track of all the WRs on the NO offense, and even guys that may be walking the street right now. Someone will forge ahead should Colston not be able to go and I think as Brees is able to stand up in the pocket they are going to be explosive.

Brees and Pierre Thomas are the must haves on this team right now.

 

[az_prof]

I'm suddenly scared of the Saints just a little bit. #1 RB microfracture, #1 WR microfracture. I took Bush in a recent FBG mock draft, but that was before I read that he feels 75% right now. Yikes.

Uptight Pierre Thomas and Meachem. Especially with Lance Moore hurt too.



Downtick Drew Brees a bit I would think.

Because he did so poorly without those guys last year?

It's still a downtick... even he if remains solidly #1 at QB.Having a 100% healthy Bush and Colston and Shockey are certainly an uptick.

The main downtick is Colston, not Brees. Brees has been successful with whatever WRs he has had.

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

sneaky play, nice.

Not sneaky, not smartArrington is the smart play.

 

[Lash]

I'm suddenly scared of the Saints just a little bit. #1 RB COP back microfracture, #1 WR microfracture. I took Bush in a recent FBG mock draft, but that was before I read that he feels 75% right now. Yikes.

Uptight Pierre Thomas and Meachem. Especially with Lance Moore hurt too.

Downtick Drew Brees a bit I would think.

fixed, Pierre is the #1 RB

 

[bcr8f]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

Only if you get points for dropped passes. A good buy low and sell even lower maybe.Not a Meachen fan. I actually like Devery Henderson better.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

Only if you get points for dropped passes. A good buy low and sell even lower maybe.Not a Meachen fan. I actually like Devery Henderson better.

Just curious, how many passes did Meachem drop last year? How many did Henderson have?

 

[Cleat Spike]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

Only if you get points for dropped passes. A good buy low and sell even lower maybe.Not a Meachen fan. I actually like Devery Henderson better.

Just curious, how many passes did Meachem drop last year? How many did Henderson have?

The writing is on the wall for Meachem this year. You keep running with the 1s (while others are out rehabing), making "explosive" plays, the coaching staff is going to get used to seeing it and wanting it out there on a regular basis. What he showed in such little time last year, this looks juicy. He seemed to be open deep so easily last year...He thinks he's faster this year and his legs are back! Seems like if Colston or Moore missed any time all of these guys would be descent options. How many people were still starting Henderson last year when he was catching 1-3 balls a game? I don't think their O would miss much of a beat though?But is sounds like Colston is going to be fine, on pace for camp. Moore, same situation so this may be nothing if their injuries don't flare up/break down during a long season.

 

[bcr8f]

The writing is on the wall for Meachem this year. You keep running with the 1s (while others are out rehabing), making "explosive" plays, the coaching staff is going to get used to seeing it and wanting it out there on a regular basis. What he showed in such little time last year, this looks juicy. He seemed to be open deep so easily last year...He thinks he's faster this year and his legs are back! Seems like if Colston or Moore missed any time all of these guys would be descent options. How many people were still starting Henderson last year when he was catching 1-3 balls a game? I don't think their O would miss much of a beat though?But is sounds like Colston is going to be fine, on pace for camp. Moore, same situation so this may be nothing if their injuries don't flare up/break down during a long season.

I thought so too until they gave Henderson a pretty good contract. In one league we can start 5 WR's90-2 RB's) so I started him a couple times.

 

[Da Guru]

I would not downgrade Brees at all. Brees has proven he can throw the football to whoever is lined up at RB, WR or TE.

 

[zoonation]

People...it is May...relax.

 

[King of the Jungle]

People...it is May...relax.

Early camp chatter always gets the juices flowing.

 

[Bri]

Yikes...not liking that at all. It feels like he's been falling apart since year two...anyone know if this surgery is still considered minor in comparison to other knee surgeries?

it was never minor last big name player getting this surgery that everyone talked about IIRC was stephen davis with Panthers.Feel like I'm forgetting someone though

 

[fruity pebbles]

People...it is May...relax.

Don't care if its May or October. Microfracture surgery of any kind sends out alarms especially for a young player who people are projecting to have a long career.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Yikes...not liking that at all. It feels like he's been falling apart since year two...anyone know if this surgery is still considered minor in comparison to other knee surgeries?

it was never minor last big name player getting this surgery that everyone talked about IIRC was stephen davis with Panthers.Feel like I'm forgetting someone though

Winslow had it. Reggie Bush just had it. Microfracture surgery isnt the same for everyone. Some are missing more acrtilage than others. Was also reportedly that this was his kneecap which makes me think it was less serious than Reggie's, who had some missing cartilage on his femoral head i believe.

 

[Bri]

Yikes...not liking that at all. It feels like he's been falling apart since year two...anyone know if this surgery is still considered minor in comparison to other knee surgeries?

it was never minor last big name player getting this surgery that everyone talked about IIRC was stephen davis with Panthers.Feel like I'm forgetting someone though

Winslow had it. Reggie Bush just had it. Microfracture surgery isnt the same for everyone. Some are missing more acrtilage than others. Was also reportedly that this was his kneecap which makes me think it was less serious than Reggie's, who had some missing cartilage on his femoral head i believe.

microfracture is drilling in the kneecapthanks for Winslow and Bush, knew there was someone since Davis. Thanks

 

[fruity pebbles]

Yikes...not liking that at all. It feels like he's been falling apart since year two...anyone know if this surgery is still considered minor in comparison to other knee surgeries?

it was never minor last big name player getting this surgery that everyone talked about IIRC was stephen davis with Panthers.Feel like I'm forgetting someone though

Winslow had it. Reggie Bush just had it. Microfracture surgery isnt the same for everyone. Some are missing more acrtilage than others. Was also reportedly that this was his kneecap which makes me think it was less serious than Reggie's, who had some missing cartilage on his femoral head i believe.

microfracture is drilling in the kneecapthanks for Winslow and Bush, knew there was someone since Davis. Thanks

Its not usually the kneecap. Its usually the femoral condyle sites (the two knobs that come off the femur)

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

didn't marvin harrison have that near the end?

 

[Sweet Love]

Meachem may be a good buy low in dynasty.

Only if you get points for dropped passes. A good buy low and sell even lower maybe.

Not a Meachen fan. I actually like Devery Henderson better.

Just curious, how many passes did Meachem drop last year? How many did Henderson have?

The writing is on the wall for Meachem this year. You keep running with the 1s (while others are out rehabing), making "explosive" plays, the coaching staff is going to get used to seeing it and wanting it out there on a regular basis. What he showed in such little time last year, this looks juicy. He seemed to be open deep so easily last year...He thinks he's faster this year and his legs are back! Seems like if Colston or Moore missed any time all of these guys would be descent options. How many people were still starting Henderson last year when he was catching 1-3 balls a game? I don't think their O would miss much of a beat though?But is sounds like Colston is going to be fine, on pace for camp. Moore, same situation so this may be nothing if their injuries don't flare up/break down during a long season.

He was a sneaky play for folks that can start more than 3 WRs, because while he usually caught 1-3 per game, they usually accumulated 50-80 yards and the random TD. Now, I did not start him every week, but I did benefit from a couple of 2-60yards and 1 TD games from him, when I would have been happy with just 6-7 points overall.As far as the surgery goes, someone mentioned that it is different for everyone and that is true. He could recover just fine or he could go the way of Germane Crowell (not sure if he had that surgery, just using him as an injury example). Every year these surgeries seem to be less of an issue. I'll never forget when I had an ACL repair in '92, I could not skate in contact for 8 months. Three years later a guy on my team had the same thing and was back in 6 months with no issues.

 

[travdogg]

I think many are looking in the wrong place for production. Between Colston and Moore both being question marks, and Meachem and Arrington being unproven at best, I think the REAL winner here could be Jeremy Shockey. He had his best years when Payton was calling the plays in NY, and despite being injured for pretty much all season and missing more than a couple games entirely, he still caught 50+ passes.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I believe Terrell Davis and Darrell Jackson both had Micro Fracture surgery.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

The cog in the entire offense is Drew Brees. He's done well with Colston, done well with Moore, done well in SD, done well inside, done well outside, the guy is money. I will simply sy this...keep track of all the WRs on the NO offense, and even guys that may be walking the street right now. Someone will forge ahead should Colston not be able to go and I think as Brees is able to stand up in the pocket they are going to be explosive. Brees and Pierre Thomas are the must haves on this team right now.

You hit the nail on the head MOP with Brees being the key. I feel confident enough in Brees' ability to be productive no matter who they have out there. Here's hoping Colston makes a full recovery and can get back at least close to the form that enamored us all. They're saying Moore should be fine as well, but the receiver situation bears close monitoring leading up to the season if anyone is considering drafting Saints receivers.I don't think the guys they have are gonna put up numbers like Colston and Moore could when healthy and it could be a lot of WRBC with Henderson,Meachem,Arrington with none of those guys being a main target. Brees would probably be throwing to alot of different guys so I don't think his production will suffer much.

 

[finito]

I think many are looking in the wrong place for production. Between Colston and Moore both being question marks, and Meachem and Arrington being unproven at best, I think the REAL winner here could be Jeremy Shockey. He had his best years when Payton was calling the plays in NY, and despite being injured for pretty much all season and missing more than a couple games entirely, he still caught 50+ passes.

Could be true, though Shockey has historically been one of the most injury-prone TEs in the league. I'd say he's as big a question mark as anyone on the team to stay healthy.I'm beginning to think Pierre Thomas is going to be a monster.

 

[JPeso]

Microfracture surgery has been improved so much over the past few years that I wouldn't be worried if this were the first surgery for Colston, but it isn't. This situation could get uglier.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Microfracture surgery has been improved so much over the past few years that I wouldn't be worried if this were the first surgery for Colston, but it isn't. This situation could get uglier.

Thats the thing. Microfracture surgery is never the 1st surgery. It's necessary as a result of usually multiple traumatic knee injuries and the cartilage is worn away enough that the bone itself is exposed. Its not so much the surgery that worries me cause it usually can buy an athlete several more years. Its that if its necessary the knee's usually in pretty rough shape. The guys in the NFL who have needed it are a who's who of knee injuries- Winslow, Reggie Bush, Terrell Davis, Malcolm Kelly, Stephen Davis, Deuce McAllister, Walter Jones.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

I guess anytime there is any type of surgery or scoping you have to be a little concerned- However, the fact that he is already participating in some OTA's has to be a positive sign.

Malcolm Kelly of the Redsins also had to undergo microfracture surgery - Malcolm Kelly has microfracture surgery

From the sounds of the article- it seems like there are varying degrees of this operation. Initially, they thought they were going to have to do his whole knee but things healed up better than they anticipated. He had surgery in February and is already doing drills on the side field in minicamp.

Guess it is a situation to monitor- but I am not going to knock him down any of my rankings just yet.

 

[EBF]

I avoided him in a dynasty draft last year because of his knee issues. As others have mentioned, this isn't the first time he's had work done on his knees. You have to worry about this being a chronic, career-stunting thing.

 

[maccabees]

(RotoWire)

Colston reportedly underwent a microfracture surgical procedure on his left knee in January to repair a small hole he had worn in his kneecap, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports. Analysis: That said, the surgery was considered minor, even though it did involve some microfracture procedure. The good news is that Colston is already running around on the practice field and should be at full speed by training camp, barring a setback.

 

[az_prof]

(RotoWire) Colston reportedly underwent a microfracture surgical procedure on his left knee in January to repair a small hole he had worn in his kneecap, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports. Analysis: That said, the surgery was considered minor, even though it did involve some microfracture procedure. The good news is that Colston is already running around on the practice field and should be at full speed by training camp, barring a setback.

How can a "small hole in the kneecap" be a minor issue?

 

[Biabreakable]

(RotoWire) Colston reportedly underwent a microfracture surgical procedure on his left knee in January to repair a small hole he had worn in his kneecap, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports. Analysis: That said, the surgery was considered minor, even though it did involve some microfracture procedure. The good news is that Colston is already running around on the practice field and should be at full speed by training camp, barring a setback.

How can a "small hole in the kneecap" be a minor issue?

Compared to a bigger hole that was required for a more major issue?I am taking the report at face value. I don't see a lot of spin there. Including the caveat of a possible setback in rehab.This is definitly a concern.I don't think any of the WR take as much advantage of Brees skills as Colston does when he is healthy. And hopefully he is ok. A good buy low opportunity if you can accept the risk.All other Saint WR should get a bump in trade interest. If I had one of them I might look at selling high.I think Colston and Bush are 1 and 2 when healthy.

 

[fruity pebbles]

(RotoWire) Colston reportedly underwent a microfracture surgical procedure on his left knee in January to repair a small hole he had worn in his kneecap, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports. Analysis: That said, the surgery was considered minor, even though it did involve some microfracture procedure. The good news is that Colston is already running around on the practice field and should be at full speed by training camp, barring a setback.

How can a "small hole in the kneecap" be a minor issue?

Its a small area where there's no cartilage, its not really a hole. The bone is still there. Just a gap where the cartilage has worn through. I'd probably say in and of itself its pretty minor. But given his other knee injuries and the reason why he's losing cartilage, it's not minor at all.