Colt Lyerla TE - GB just officially signed (1 Viewer)

[Donnybrook]

Now that he is in Green Bay, I hope he is next Ed Dickson.

He won't be that. Somewhere between 2011 and 2014 Aaron Hernandez.

As if you know.

a better blocking tight end than receiver? A very replacement level talent? No he is not that. He has the talent to be very good if not great and the head issues that could have him out of the league in a month and possibly worse beyond.

Dickson was thought to be an over-sized wide receiver with very little blocking skills coming into the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/ed-dickson?id=497224 Ozzy Newsome drafted him a full round ahead of Dennis Pitta. So please stop talking like Lylera is a can't miss prospect when only one team is willing to take a chance on him.

cant miss? Let me know when you're going to start actually reading what I write and I may respond,

How about never. I am positive I won't miss reading your response.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

I won't roster him regardless of 'upside.' Coke head, highly immature, maybe has a screw loose, undisciplined, couldn't make practices, etc... A pattern of life choices going back to high school and before. I'll put the roster spot to use elsewhere while the upside chasers waste it on this guy. It's not a question of if but when he'll screw up and be gone. For the sake of those wasting the roster spot I hope it happens sooner rather than later so you can be done with him and I don't have to keep reading about another washout loser's upside.

 

[identikit]

I have no issue using a roster spot on him.

Risk/reward at its highest level, FF-wise, with very little invested (for me anyways).

 

[JohnnyU]

I had a choice between him and Seastrunk and I chose the latter, but yes, he's worth a roster spot in leagues with 24 or more.

 

[Phenix]

As full of risk as this guy is, when he played for Oregon he looked like Aaron Hernandez. That being said a coke habit on top of just ditching practice was enough for him to be a UDFA. Honestly I think Hernandez has screwed over second chances for a lot of future players. He went undrafted for good reason. None of those reasons had to do with talent. That doesn't mean he is a can't miss as every player has talent in the NFL. He's on a good team that relys on homegrown talent, mad doesn't miss that often. He has a long way to go but each milestone will reveal his value. If he makes it to the season it will be a great high risk high reward investment.

People keep referencing Hernandez as far as play.

Too be honest if anyone is capable of accomplishing what Hernandez did off the field, its this guy.

 

[Phenix]

It was a deep draft. Another year, he might have been a draft pick.

Really? That was funny?

Useless post

As useless as mocking someone for laughing at something completely laughable.

This hype and people attempting justification of it is laughable. He wasn't wanted by anyone time after time. Players with issues get drafted, players no one wants, dont and they sign with any team that will give him a shot.

Funny how people want to talk about players track records... until it goes against the player they are promoting, then... "Oh, he can change."

Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

 

[Coeur de Lion]

So now what? Where does he fit in? TE #2 after Ebron in dynasty rookie drafts?

Uhhh... no.

 

[DaveL]

He's a lottery ticket, but to laugh him off as not worth paying attention to is a bit short sighted. He went to an ideal situation, a solid QB in his prime, a team with no real TE, and only 2ish WR's with 1 about to become a FA.

Colt ran a 4.61 40, 39" vert, 10'8" broad jump. Comparing that to Hernandez (4.63/33"/9'3") it's not something you can ignore. Nor can you ignore his past obviously, but he's definitely roster worthy

 

[domvin]

Not playing based on "Circumstances" The guy leaves the team then comes back 3 weeks later and rejoins.

It screams the guy was on a cocaine bender.

The guy is a freak of an athlete. Standing box jump of 62 inches. The athleticism is there. Colt will determine if he makes the team or not-he's either clean or he's not. Definitely worth flier with a late pick.

 

[KellysHeroes]

don't they have Bostick?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Lyerla is exactly the kind of player you should target in the 3rd rd or later of rookie drafts. You'll know early on whether he really got the wakeup call or he's still subject to same lapses in judgment. If he catches on, he can be the most valuable fantasy TE out of this class. If he flames out, you open up a roster spot for a less heralded rook (or vet). I like not being too attached to later rookie picks, and I like upside. Lyerla gives you both.

 

[smackdaddies]

I have no issue using a roster spot on him.

Risk/reward at its highest level, FF-wise, with very little invested (for me anyways).

Exactly. In a start one te, I would pick him up super cheap and stash on the chance. It is about winning in ff, and I would rather go big and have a hr chance than middling and finish middle of the pack

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

don't they have Bostick?

and Quarless, and they drafted Richard Rodgers in the 3rd, and heck they may even bring back Finley. The TE situation is totally wide open in an offense led by one of the best QBs in the league, which is part of why Lyerla is so interesting for FF. I do think Bostick has the most upside as a receiver out of the rest of the group, but obviously he is still a work in progress or the team wouldn't have spread out all of these bets at TE this offseason.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

He's a lottery ticket, but to laugh him off as not worth paying attention to is a bit short sighted. He went to an ideal situation, a solid QB in his prime, a team with no real TE, and only 2ish WR's with 1 about to become a FA.

Colt ran a 4.61 40, 39" vert, 10'8" broad jump. Comparing that to Hernandez (4.63/33"/9'3") it's not something you can ignore. Nor can you ignore his past obviously, but he's definitely roster worthy

Don't disagree that he's worth an extremely cheap flyer in deeper leagues -- but the OP suggested that he might be TE2 in this class and thus possibly worthy of a top 20 rookie pick -- and that absolutely is laughable. Talent-wise he might be roughly in the same ballpark with ASJ and Amaro, but he's a total disaster waiting to happen off of the field. His late / missed meetings and practices act will last about one time in the NFL. Not to mention the whole coke thing.

He's this year's Da'Rick Rogers -- the guy that get's waaaaay over drafted based on perceived talent / name by owners that ignore the fact that zero NFL teams wanted to invest even a late pick in him.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

 

[Phenix]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

This, but it was Blackmon and Henandez for me.

 

[cstu]

He's a lottery ticket, but to laugh him off as not worth paying attention to is a bit short sighted. He went to an ideal situation, a solid QB in his prime, a team with no real TE, and only 2ish WR's with 1 about to become a FA.

Colt ran a 4.61 40, 39" vert, 10'8" broad jump. Comparing that to Hernandez (4.63/33"/9'3") it's not something you can ignore. Nor can you ignore his past obviously, but he's definitely roster worthy

Don't disagree that he's worth an extremely cheap flyer in deeper leagues -- but the OP suggested that he might be TE2 in this class and thus possibly worthy of a top 20 rookie pick -- and that absolutely is laughable. Talent-wise he might be roughly in the same ballpark with ASJ and Amaro, but he's a total disaster waiting to happen off of the field. His late / missed meetings and practices act will last about one time in the NFL. Not to mention the whole coke thing.

He's this year's Da'Rick Rogers -- the guy that get's waaaaay over drafted based on perceived talent / name by owners that ignore the fact that zero NFL teams wanted to invest even a late pick in him.

Rogers at least made sense because his issues where character-based not a drug addiction.

Lyerla is worth a flyer (I wouldn't spend a 3rd round pick in this year's draft) but cocaine addiction is a hard to overcome.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

This. Plus it's also worth noting that even with the extensive drug history, Cleveland was willing to invest a 2nd round pick. All 32 teams passed on Lyerla even in the final round. That says a ton.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

He's a lottery ticket, but to laugh him off as not worth paying attention to is a bit short sighted. He went to an ideal situation, a solid QB in his prime, a team with no real TE, and only 2ish WR's with 1 about to become a FA.

Colt ran a 4.61 40, 39" vert, 10'8" broad jump. Comparing that to Hernandez (4.63/33"/9'3") it's not something you can ignore. Nor can you ignore his past obviously, but he's definitely roster worthy

Don't disagree that he's worth an extremely cheap flyer in deeper leagues -- but the OP suggested that he might be TE2 in this class and thus possibly worthy of a top 20 rookie pick -- and that absolutely is laughable. Talent-wise he might be roughly in the same ballpark with ASJ and Amaro, but he's a total disaster waiting to happen off of the field. His late / missed meetings and practices act will last about one time in the NFL. Not to mention the whole coke thing.He's this year's Da'Rick Rogers -- the guy that get's waaaaay over drafted based on perceived talent / name by owners that ignore the fact that zero NFL teams wanted to invest even a late pick in him.

Rogers at least made sense because his issues where character-based not a drug addiction.

Lyerla is worth a flyer (I wouldn't spend a 3rd round pick in this year's draft) but cocaine addiction is a hard to overcome.

Depends on cost -- I saw Rogers go late 1st / early 2nd more than a few times last summer, which was a sucker bet.

 

[DaveL]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

This. Plus it's also worth noting that even with the extensive drug history, Cleveland was willing to invest a 2nd round pick. All 32 teams passed on Lyerla even in the final round. That says a ton.

Not one for conspiracy theories, but I would have been interested to see the uproar if a cocaine junkie who believed, at least at one point, that Sandy Hook was a hoax got drafted before Michael Sam.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Picked him up at #40 in a rookie draft yesterday and then in the first post-draft WW run in two others. Felt pretty good about it since either he makes the Pakcers and picks up real value in about 90 days or gets cut and opens up that roster spot before the WW run after Week 1.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

You guys who continue to say he is worth a roster spot are right, but only because there will be others in your league who also don't get it and think so, and that gives him perceived value and market value. But again I'll never own him. Before he ever does anything noteworthy in the NFL he'll screw up. He'll punch a teammate in the face, or miss meetings, or get busted for drugs, or tweet something crazy against some ethnic group or homosexuals or whatever, probably some combination of things, until he's out of the NFL. Then he'll go on with his sociopathic life and be forgotten. And you'll still say 'but he was worth the risk!' despite not being worth anything. Those who don't learn from history...

 

[opensourcebeer]

Lyerla is exactly the kind of player you should target in the 3rd rd or later of rookie drafts. You'll know early on whether he really got the wakeup call or he's still subject to same lapses in judgment. If he catches on, he can be the most valuable fantasy TE out of this class. If he flames out, you open up a roster spot for a less heralded rook (or vet). I like not being too attached to later rookie picks, and I like upside. Lyerla gives you both.

100% agree.

 

[Warpig]

He actually kinda does look like Aaron Hernandez. Mentally unstable and a coke head? I'm not wasting the draft pick in rookie drafts on him. Plenty of other players out there worth taking a flyer on.

 

[Bojang0301]

Social conciousness has no place in fantasy football. Randy Moss and Terrell Owens helped out your fantasy teams, as did Ray Lewis for IDPers and Aaron Hernandez won people titles before being caught for his psychotic behavior. Most are right though, those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Please don't mistake me supporting, as someone in this thread said, sociopathic behavior. What does that behavior really have to do with fantasy football other than run the risk of suspension or falling out of the league? Would you have traded Randy Moss for Hines Ward just because one had heart and the other mostly didn't? It's part poker, part stock market. Yes he went undrafted. I still stand by that, that had nothing to do with talent. Arian Foster went undrafted, so was Jason Peters and Antonio Gates. Three players considered among the very best at their positions at different points in their careers. I would just say that if you absolutely are against the guy for social reasons, in a fantasy sense, you need to be aware that you can get value out of him to people like myself who are willing to yield that risk. Sure it's bit me (looking at you Justin Blackmon) but that's why anyone with common sense is saying high risk/high reward.

 

[jurb26]

I've seen this guy go ahead of Niklas and about the same range as Amaro in dynasty drafts... No thanks. Way too much hype way too little upside and probability of success. I guess I can thank FBG for that? Seems like a lot of people are too caught up in finding a diamond in the rough here when a box of gems is already at their feet.

 

[MAC_32]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

As an upper echelon player? Yes. it's why I sold Gordon last season. No risk fliers? I love these types in that role. If they hit then flip them when their value peaks like Gordon's did.

 

[Phenix]

He actually kinda does look like Aaron Hernandez. Mentally unstable and a coke head? I'm not wasting the draft pick in rookie drafts on him. Plenty of other players out there worth taking a flyer on.

He does. I rather take a flyer on someone else who has a better chance of being in the league in 3 months.

 

[identikit]

Jeremy Hill is arguably on a par with off-field issues.

Haven't noticed any outcry about drafting him.

 

[jurb26]

Jeremy Hill is arguably on a par with off-field issues.

Haven't noticed any outcry about drafting him.

That's a tough argument to make. I don't think Hill is on par at all. Also, Hill was drafted... In the 2nd round mind you. Lyerla was not draft... At all. Many here are presenting this as if Lyerla was actually a better talent than Hill. Yet every NFL team still passed him by. I'm sure those teams all dug I to this pretty well. Better than any of us could for sure. Maybe it's because his issues were significantly worse. Maybe it's because his level of talent is being significantly exaggerated. Either way, the difference is rather startling.

 

[buck naked]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

This. Plus it's also worth noting that even with the extensive drug history, Cleveland was willing to invest a 2nd round pick. All 32 teams passed on Lyerla even in the final round. That says a ton.

It's all a risk/reward analysis. If I did not invest heavily in Josh Gordon in redrafts last year, I don't win large sums of $$$. The same is true for any player, whether it is Lyerla or Blackmon. What's his price, and is the upside worth that price?

 

[menobrown]

Josh Gordon has soured me on these players with a previous drug issue........Not reliable.

This. Plus it's also worth noting that even with the extensive drug history, Cleveland was willing to invest a 2nd round pick. All 32 teams passed on Lyerla even in the final round. That says a ton.

It's all a risk/reward analysis. If I did not invest heavily in Josh Gordon in redrafts last year, I don't win large sums of $$$. The same is true for any player, whether it is Lyerla or Blackmon. What's his price, and is the upside worth that price?

Very true and of the very few redraft leagues I did not get Gordon last year was a league you beat me to him. (But I feel I must say I still sucked last year and did not win large sums of money but he was part of most teams of mine that cashed)

Even in Dynasty I picked him at 6.10 in startup last season, a league that began a few weeks after his suspension last off-season. The only mistake I made was he was so incredible last year I backed off my original plans for him. As I told my co-manager at the time when I was making my case to draft him, this time next season people will put this guy on par with the Julio Jones/Dez Bryant's of the world. Let's get a year out of him, let him increase his value with on the field play and create distance in other owners memories of this latest suspension and then we'll deal him when the season is over. While I wish I'd have stuck to my orignal plan I have zero regrets about spending pick 6.10 on him last season.

 

[Phenix]

Jeremy Hill is arguably on a par with off-field issues.

Haven't noticed any outcry about drafting him.

All that does is further validate that if this guy was really that good, he would have been drafted by a team, just like Hill was.

 

[identikit]

Jeremy Hill is arguably on a par with off-field issues.

Haven't noticed any outcry about drafting him.

That's a tough argument to make. I don't think Hill is on par at all.Also, Hill was drafted... In the 2nd round mind you. Lyerla was not draft... At all. Many here are presenting this as if Lyerla was actually a better talent than Hill. Yet every NFL team still passed him by. I'm sure those teams all dug I to this pretty well. Better than any of us could for sure. Maybe it's because his issues were significantly worse. Maybe it's because his level of talent is being significantly exaggerated. Either way, the difference is rather startling.

Here's Hill's exploits:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-red-flag-report-Jeremy-Hill.html

One's baggage may be worse than the other's, but at a certain point, bad behavior is bad behavior.

To me, I don't have a problem with either of these guys being on anyone's FF rosters.

Just like, as of right now, neither the Packers or the Bengals have issue with them being on their rosters.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

No guaranteed money for Colt Lyerla Thu May 22, 08:58 PM

Updating a previous report, Green Bay Packers TE Colt Lyerla's three-year contract does not include any guaranteed money, according to a source. He is scheduled to make $420,000 in 2014, $510,000 in 2015 and $600,000 in 2016

 

[Sup_Yo]

Super low-risk for the Packers. Love it.

 

[Borden]

No guaranteed money for Colt Lyerla Thu May 22, 08:58 PM

Updating a previous report, Green Bay Packers TE Colt Lyerla's three-year contract does not include any guaranteed money, according to a source. He is scheduled to make $420,000 in 2014, $510,000 in 2015 and $600,000 in 2016

That's Russell Wilson money!

 

[massraider]

Super low-risk for the Packers. Love it.

I was thinking about that.

There is no danger of signing Lyerla, have him screw around in training camp, and they cut him.

The danger is Lyerla performs well, they start counting on him, and then he goes sideways. Lyerla rips it up, becomes the starter, the Pack don't go after any tight ends, and he becomes a big part of the offense. Then he disappears for a Vegas weekend in the middle of the season, Or fails a test.

The Browns only invested a 3rd rounder in Josh Gordon. Not a huge price. But then he becomes the offense. Then you can't count on him.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Super low-risk for the Packers. Love it.

I was thinking about that.

There is no danger of signing Lyerla, have him screw around in training camp, and they cut him.

The danger is Lyerla performs well, they start counting on him, and then he goes sideways. Lyerla rips it up, becomes the starter, the Pack don't go after any tight ends, and he becomes a big part of the offense. Then he disappears for a Vegas weekend in the middle of the season, Or fails a test.

The Browns only invested a 3rd rounder in Josh Gordon. Not a huge price. But then he becomes the offense. Then you can't count on him.

Correction. 2nd rounder

 

[Beefeaters]

He's the TE equivalent of Lattimore, but instead of a major physical injury, he has a major chemical imbalance. Maybe it can be overcome. Maybe not. That risk is weighed by round in each draft. He just went way too early for my taste in a recent rookie draft. And I typically like to swing for the fences.

 

[opensourcebeer]

He's the TE equivalent of Lattimore, but instead of a major physical injury, he has a major chemical imbalance. Maybe it can be overcome. Maybe not. That risk is weighed by round in each draft. He just went way too early for my taste in a recent rookie draft. And I typically like to swing for the fences.

Where did he go?

 

[tone1oc]

He's the TE equivalent of Lattimore, but instead of a major physical injury, he has a major chemical imbalance. Maybe it can be overcome. Maybe not. That risk is weighed by round in each draft. He just went way too early for my taste in a recent rookie draft. And I typically like to swing for the fences.

That is kind of a major accusation. In no way am I condoning his behavior or suggest that he will get it together but to say he has a major chemical imbalance is a little much. For all you know he could of just gotten over his head as a 21 year old college football star enticed by all the landmines. Again, this is no excuse and could be indicitave of him truly not being a good person. But there are plenty of people that get caught up that aren't necessarily addicts or bad people or have major chemical imbalances. Perhaps his version of young and dumb was worse than most, but he really learned from it.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

He's the TE equivalent of Lattimore, but instead of a major physical injury, he has a major chemical imbalance. Maybe it can be overcome. Maybe not. That risk is weighed by round in each draft. He just went way too early for my taste in a recent rookie draft. And I typically like to swing for the fences.

Where did he go?

Four of the HyperActive leagues (independent 12-team conferences, so 8 drafts total) have been completed. They are 1 PPR all positions and start 1-1-1-1 +4 flex.

He has been taken:

HA1 HA1 HA2 HA2 HA3 HA3 HA4 HA4

NA NA 37 30 36 40 13 32

In HA1, where he was undrafted in both conferences (4 round, 12-team drafts), the draft began the Saturday of the NFL draft and was completed before Lyerla signed with the Packers. Each pair of drafts is staggered a couple days apart, so the later drafts had benefit of more info plus seeing where he had gone in the earlier drafts.

The #13 is clearly an anomaly, someone drank too much Kool Aid and didn't realize apparently he easily could have gotten him a round later. Lyerla generally looks to be a mid-3rd round pick or later per our leagues.

 

[Biabreakable]

Where was Richard Rodgers drafted in HA Couch?

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Where was Richard Rodgers drafted in HA Couch?

That's a real interesting question Bia, because he was pretty much treated as an afterthought.

I don't believe in Lyerla at all as I've said in posts above. Rodgers was taken in the 3rd NFL round, just a few picks later than Finley (#98 overall vs #91). He's a project too because he never learned to block and 'has a lot to learn' per HC McCarthy. He dropped weight last year to play WR in Cal's new spread offense, and is gaining it back to play TE at the NFL level. He's unlikely to have any impact in 2014, but could be a player to watch in 2015. Finley by the way was only 6-74-1 his rookie year.

In our drafts, Rodgers went:

HA1 HA1 HA2 HA2 HA3 HA3 HA4 HA4

43 41 NA NA NA NA NA NA

Yup, that's right. Once news of the Lyerla signing came, Rodgers went undrafted the rest of the drafts (49 total picks, including an extra pick we award to toilet bowl winner).

I think that's probably a mistake given GM Thompson's track record drafting pass catchers in the first three rounds, but with the possibility of Finley coming back, Lyerla there, as well as Quarless and Bostick, folks are staying away from Rodgers.

 

[Donnybrook]

Here's Hill's exploits:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-red-flag-report-Jeremy-Hill.html

Interesting. One could argue that the only person Colt Lylera was hurting was himself although I am sure he let down some of his teammates by leaving the program. Hill is another story. I will probably not be drafting Hill after reading this.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Where was Richard Rodgers drafted in HA Couch?

That's a real interesting question Bia, because he was pretty much treated as an afterthought.

I don't believe in Lyerla at all as I've said in posts above. Rodgers was taken in the 3rd NFL round, just a few picks later than Finley (#98 overall vs #91). He's a project too because he never learned to block and 'has a lot to learn' per HC McCarthy. He dropped weight last year to play WR in Cal's new spread offense, and is gaining it back to play TE at the NFL level. He's unlikely to have any impact in 2014, but could be a player to watch in 2015. Finley by the way was only 6-74-1 his rookie year.

In our drafts, Rodgers went:

HA1 HA1 HA2 HA2 HA3 HA3 HA4 HA4

43 41 NA NA NA NA NA NA

Yup, that's right. Once news of the Lyerla signing came, Rodgers went undrafted the rest of the drafts (49 total picks, including an extra pick we award to toilet bowl winner).

I think that's probably a mistake given GM Thompson's track record drafting pass catchers in the first three rounds, but with the possibility of Finley coming back, Lyerla there, as well as Quarless and Bostick, folks are staying away from Rodgers.

Rodgers is not impressive from a measureables, production, or film standpoint. He has decent hands and can be used to rip the seam, but he has been a non-entity in the red zone, and he doesn't look like he has the flexibility to be a good route runner. I wouldn't bother with him in a typical rookie draft.

 

[GridironMenace]

I'm going to say that there is a 0.00001% chance that this kid is able to keep his head down and not be suspended. Fools gold. Players with this level of off-field antics are just not able to stay clean. Can anyone name a problem with his level of off field issues that was able to stay clean after entering the NFL? I can't.

 

[Biabreakable]

Where was Richard Rodgers drafted in HA Couch?

That's a real interesting question Bia, because he was pretty much treated as an afterthought.

I don't believe in Lyerla at all as I've said in posts above. Rodgers was taken in the 3rd NFL round, just a few picks later than Finley (#98 overall vs #91). He's a project too because he never learned to block and 'has a lot to learn' per HC McCarthy. He dropped weight last year to play WR in Cal's new spread offense, and is gaining it back to play TE at the NFL level. He's unlikely to have any impact in 2014, but could be a player to watch in 2015. Finley by the way was only 6-74-1 his rookie year.

In our drafts, Rodgers went:

HA1 HA1 HA2 HA2 HA3 HA3 HA4 HA4

43 41 NA NA NA NA NA NA

Yup, that's right. Once news of the Lyerla signing came, Rodgers went undrafted the rest of the drafts (49 total picks, including an extra pick we award to toilet bowl winner).

I think that's probably a mistake given GM Thompson's track record drafting pass catchers in the first three rounds, but with the possibility of Finley coming back, Lyerla there, as well as Quarless and Bostick, folks are staying away from Rodgers.

Rodgers is not impressive from a measureables, production, or film standpoint. He has decent hands and can be used to rip the seam, but he has been a non-entity in the red zone, and he doesn't look like he has the flexibility to be a good route runner. I wouldn't bother with him in a typical rookie draft.

I was not very impressed with him either and Lyerla looks like a much better receiving option.

Still who is more likely to make the roster? The Packers added 3 nice WR prospects in the draft as well. Some one will not make the final roster. If comes down to keeping Boykin, Janis or Lyerla? I think that will be a difficult call.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Where was Richard Rodgers drafted in HA Couch?

That's a real interesting question Bia, because he was pretty much treated as an afterthought.

I don't believe in Lyerla at all as I've said in posts above. Rodgers was taken in the 3rd NFL round, just a few picks later than Finley (#98 overall vs #91). He's a project too because he never learned to block and 'has a lot to learn' per HC McCarthy. He dropped weight last year to play WR in Cal's new spread offense, and is gaining it back to play TE at the NFL level. He's unlikely to have any impact in 2014, but could be a player to watch in 2015. Finley by the way was only 6-74-1 his rookie year.

In our drafts, Rodgers went:

HA1 HA1 HA2 HA2 HA3 HA3 HA4 HA4

43 41 NA NA NA NA NA NA

Yup, that's right. Once news of the Lyerla signing came, Rodgers went undrafted the rest of the drafts (49 total picks, including an extra pick we award to toilet bowl winner).

I think that's probably a mistake given GM Thompson's track record drafting pass catchers in the first three rounds, but with the possibility of Finley coming back, Lyerla there, as well as Quarless and Bostick, folks are staying away from Rodgers.

Rodgers is not impressive from a measureables, production, or film standpoint. He has decent hands and can be used to rip the seam, but he has been a non-entity in the red zone, and he doesn't look like he has the flexibility to be a good route runner. I wouldn't bother with him in a typical rookie draft.

Respect your opinion Bloom, but I took Rodgers late in a recent rookie draft. (36th with some devys already out of pool).

Here's why.

1. Ted Thompson said after the draft that he felt Rodgers had the best hands of any TE in the draft.

2. Rodgers combine results were very similar to Jermichael Finley.

3. If he wins the starting TE job in GB, he'll be in a great situation to be a starting FF TE.

4. He's being treated in rookie drafts like a late round flyer, when he's a 3rd round draft pick with a pretty clear path to relevance.