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[dickey moe]

0-5 finish by two formerly undefeated teams. Sitting starters obviously was a factor, but this can't exactly inspire confidence heading into the post-season.

 

[dawrecker]

Not much different than i felt 3 weeks ago. Maybe slightly lower on the saints because they lost a couple of games while starters were playing. Colts were still outscoring jets with the starters in. Not much changed though. Saints don't make NFC championship though as i think eagles and packers are better.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

0-5 finish by two formerly undefeated teams. Sitting starters obviously was a factor, but this can't exactly inspire confidence heading into the post-season.

OTOH, I'd be glad that I didn't just lose my Wes Welker to an ACL injury.

 

[Young 8]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

 

[Chase Stuart]

Not much different than i felt 3 weeks ago. Maybe slightly lower on the saints because they lost a couple of games while starters were playing. Colts were still outscoring jets with the starters in. Not much changed though. Saints don't make NFC championship though as i think eagles and packers are better.

I think the Cowboys might be the best team in the NFC. Also the most complete team.

 

[jchap31]

0-5 finish by two formerly undefeated teams. Sitting starters obviously was a factor, but this can't exactly inspire confidence heading into the post-season.

Saints season ticket holderI will be laughing my ### of when we make it to the Super Bowl. It's the "in" thing to tear down a 13-3 team, which didn't even play their star players in the final game (and on purpose vanilla playcalling by Payton). Everyone gets into slumps.Our defense will be 100% healthy by our first playoff game, which will be a big boost (especially getting CB Jabari Greer back, who was having a Pro Bowl season before his groin injury). Not many teams can lose their top 3 CBs, DT, both OLBs at some point for games at a time and still go 13-0.We will not be stopped when we get back to a meaningful game 2 weeks from now. PS - This Saints team (2006 to today) is 3-0 vs. Eagles. Eagles, like every year, slow down in the playoffs for an early exit.No one will even remember these last 3 weeks come NFC Championship Game time. All that matters is the end result.

 

[dawrecker]

Not much different than i felt 3 weeks ago. Maybe slightly lower on the saints because they lost a couple of games while starters were playing. Colts were still outscoring jets with the starters in. Not much changed though. Saints don't make NFC championship though as i think eagles and packers are better.

I think the Cowboys might be the best team in the NFC. Also the most complete team.

You could make a very good argument for that considering i also picked the cowboys to win the game today in my pick'em league and if they get the game against the eagles at home it could be another toss up.

 

[RUSF18]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty good point.

 

[gianmarco]

Nervous. But I also think every NFC team has a ***** in their armor and the Saints didn't win 13 games by accident.

 

[Doug B]

PS - This Saints team (2006 to today) is 3-0 vs. Eagles. Eagles, like every year, slow down in the playoffs for an early exit.

Nice body shot to the karma. Saints owned the Cowboys in recent yers, too.

No one will even remember these last 3 weeks come NFC Championship Game time. All that matters is the end result.

This is true ... but the Saints have A LOT to prove right now. But then ... they've traditionally played much better as an underdog than as a pundits' favorite. So we'll see.

 

[Young 8]

Eagles, like every year, slow down in the playoffs for an early exit.

Eagles never lost a 1st round playoffs in the last 9 yearsThey played 5 NFC Championships and 2 Divisionals

 

[IvanKaramazov]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty good point.

As an Indiana native, I usually pull for the Colts in the playoffs since the Bills are never involved. Not this year. I hope they get dismantled by their first opponent.

 

[Doug B]

... and on purpose vanilla playcalling by Payton ...

FWIW, some folks on saintsreport are putting forth the theory that the Saints have semi-laid-down since the Patriots game (when they got to 11-0). What they mean is that Saints' players with hangnails have been sitting, and that Payton's been calling put-nothing-on-film offense for five weeks now.EDIT: And of course ... this most recent Panthers' game was a straight-up lay-down.

 

[dickey moe]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

Curious, to say the least.

 

[RUSF18]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty good point.

As an Indiana native, I usually pull for the Colts in the playoffs since the Bills are never involved. Not this year. I hope they get dismantled by their first opponent.

I think it's a good enough post where it should be put into the thread about the Colts sitting their starters. This is the type of story that the media probably won't pick up on right away, but come Wednesday I could see it being covered on PTI.

 

[Young 8]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty good point.

As an Indiana native, I usually pull for the Colts in the playoffs since the Bills are never involved. Not this year. I hope they get dismantled by their first opponent.

I think it's a good enough post where it should be put into the thread about the Colts sitting their starters. This is the type of story that the media probably won't pick up on right away, but come Wednesday I could see it being covered on PTI.

i don't know if i can post this but here's the original linkhttp://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=166891

 

[switz]

0-5 finish by two formerly undefeated teams. Sitting starters obviously was a factor, but this can't exactly inspire confidence heading into the post-season.

I like the Colts chances. In fact, the players response to the decision to sit starters inspires a lot of confidence in me. Add in Freeney's comment that if they could pick their two opponents it would be NE and SD, I like it!Colts will be fine. Saints, not so much, they peaked too early IMO.

 

[Gadabout]

... and on purpose vanilla playcalling by Payton ...

FWIW, some folks on saintsreport are putting forth the theory that the Saints have semi-laid-down since the Patriots game (when they got to 11-0). What they mean is that Saints' players with hangnails have been sitting, and that Payton's been calling put-nothing-on-film offense for five weeks now.EDIT: And of course ... this most recent Panthers' game was a straight-up lay-down.

Whew....glad I wasn't the only one with that feeling. My landlord and I were just discussing this a few days ago.Anyways.I feel confident in what a healthy Saints unit can do.

 

[ATC1]

What has me worried the most is the Saint's run defense. C. Grant can run his mouth all day about how the fans should not boo the Saints after that lost to Tampa, but it's about time he plays well enough to to earn half his pay check. 4 sacks, and the major runs against the Saints seem to all be cut back runs to his side when he loses contain crashing down top stop the insdie run. I don't know if crashing down like that is the playy being called each time, but it amazes me that as soon as he is out of the game, CAR can not break off the large run as easily.

 

[Chase Stuart]

What has me worried the most is the Saint's run defense.

Agreed. I think they're in trouble if they see Dallas again.

 

[ATC1]

What has me worried the most is the Saint's run defense.

Agreed. I think they're in trouble if they see Dallas again.

Yeah, I don't want to see Dallas. Run Offense and pass rushing Defense = not a good matchup for the Saints.

 

[Jerry Lawler]

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Last week the Colts pulled their starters against the Jets saying the care more about the health of their players than winning the game and going 16-0 or 19-0.

But how do you explain this week when they play at Buffalo on a snow field they decide to play Manning, Wayne and Clark for the first 16 minutes so Clark can get 7 catches for 100 for the season and Wayne can get 5 catches for 100 for the season. They basically only threw to them. Most of the passes were dinks.

Basically, the Colts organization decided that MEANINGLESS personal stats are more important than playing to win the game (and the game was in front of their home fans).

The rationale here would probably be that Polian's priorities heading into the postseason were:1) Keep the difference-makers healthy (e.g. limiting their injury risk in the final 2 games)

2) Keep the difference-makers happy (e.g. statistical benchmarks)

Distant 3rd) Go Undefeated

Extremely Distant 4th) Let the fans run the team by doing whatever they want

Personally, I would have played it to the end and risked a Welker-like injury, but I can certainly see the rationale here. I understand that the fans are the backbone of the franchise, but most of us will ultimately be happy with the team as long as they're competing for championships and occasionally winning them. We watched some god-awful teams in the 80's and 90's, and it feels great to have the luxury of complaining about a 14-2 season.

As for the playoffs, I feel good about the way the Colts are playing. However, I'm extremely worried about the way they match up with San Diego, New England and, to a lesser extent Pittsburgh (if they make it).

 

[IvanKaramazov]

The rationale here would probably be that Polian's priorities heading into the postseason were:1) Keep the difference-makers healthy (e.g. limiting their injury risk in the final 2 games)2) Keep the difference-makers happy (e.g. statistical benchmarks)

I seriously doubt there's more than a handful of players on the Colts' roster that was happy with Polian's decision in week 16.