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He was on Sirius Radio today being interviewed by Adam Schein and Randy Cross.

The fellas asked him about losing Edge, and he said....

(Are you sitting down???)

"We think that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back, and he'll do fine as the starter."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

This is the same GREAT BACK who got all of 40 rushing attempts last year during a season in which Indy had leads of about 70 points in the 4th quarter of most games, and their workhorse back still stayed in the game.

Mr. Polian isn't a very good poker player.

Bottom line: INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - 1.30 - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota

 
Oh I cant wait to see this turn into a 3 pg thread discussing whether or not Rhodes' 1000 yd season years ago means he's a viable NFL starter.

 
Oh I cant wait to see this turn into a 3 pg thread discussing whether or not Rhodes' 1000 yd season years ago means he's a viable NFL starter.
Of course, with that line in Indy, anybody can do well carrying the football. :sarcasm:

 
He was on Sirius Radio today being interviewed by Adam Schein and Randy Cross.

The fellas asked him about losing Edge, and he said....

(Are you sitting down???)

"We think that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back, and he'll do fine as the starter."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

This is the same GREAT BACK who got all of 40 rushing attempts last year during a season in which Indy had leads of about 70 points in the 4th quarter of most games, and their workhorse back still stayed in the game.

Mr. Polian isn't a very good poker player.

Bottom line: INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - 1.30 - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
I think (maybe hope) what Polian was saying is that Dominic Rhodes could be a great back in our system. With Peyton Manning at the helm, one would expect defenses to put a maximum of 7 guys in the box to stop the run. In these circumstances, I suspect almost all NFL running backs to be able to succeed in this system.If the system was different, say like Pittsburgh where defenses were putting a minimum of 7 guys in the box to stop Pittsburgh's rushing attack, than the bar for what a team would need from the running back position would then be raised. Quite possibly raised to a level that marginally good backs like Dominic Rhodes would not be a great back.

 
Polian has to be the dumbest GM in the business. Hands down.
I don't know if he is the worse, the Colts have been consistently good for some time; I think GMs should ulitmately be evaluated based on their track record. I think there record speaks volume. You also have to give him credit for having Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison under contract. He also allowed the controversial draft picks of Dwight Freeney and Edgerrin James (over Ricky Williams). He also brought in Corey Simon. However, if you wanted to make the Statement "Polian is the worst at conveying\communicating his thoughts to (or possibly through) the media", I would not argue with you. The guy comes across as an idiot.

 
He was on Sirius Radio today being interviewed by Adam Schein and Randy Cross.

The fellas asked him about losing Edge, and he said....

(Are you sitting down???)

"We think that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back, and he'll do fine as the starter."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

This is the same GREAT BACK who got all of 40 rushing attempts last year during a season in which Indy had leads of about 70 points in the 4th quarter of most games, and their workhorse back still stayed in the game.

Mr. Polian isn't a very good poker player.

Bottom line: INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - 1.30 - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
Polian is the same guy who though dallas clark was the next great TE...lol

 
If Polian had started saying this, oh, LAST YEAR that Rhodes was more than capable and they would utilize him if things didn't work out with Edge, then MAYBE I would buy into this.

But now Edge is gone, other FA running backs have signed, and the crop of candidates is thin. So what else can he say right now . . . "Rhodes really isn't that good and we'd take Adrian Murrell instead if we could get his number."

At this point, Rhodes is the best option the Colts currently have on their roster. But Reche Caldwell is the best #2WR on the Patriots. Does anyone really think Caldwell will be a starting WR this year?

Kinda like in Hollwood. Twelve other A and B list actors turn down the part and a complete nobody takes the role. Would anyone buy that that actor was the one the movie was meant to star in?

Maybe Rhodes does end up as the starter out of sheer necessity, but I still have a hard time believing that the Colts WANT that to happen.

 
Well, say what you will but Tony Dungy was asked on NFL Network yesterday the very same question and he said, without hesitation, that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back [his word, not mine] and will get first crack at replacing Edgerrin.

:shrug:

 
Polian has to be the dumbest GM in the business. Hands down.
:thumbdown: Bill is a five-time NFL Executive of the Year. Seems like he must know something about this football thing.

 
Well, say what you will but Tony Dungy was asked on NFL Network yesterday the very same question and he said, without hesitation, that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back [his word, not mine] and will get first crack at replacing Edgerrin.

:shrug:
:goodposting:
 
Assuming Rhodes gets first crack and Indy does not draft a RB early....

Who becomes an interesting dark horse? Is James Mungro a guy worth keeping an eye on? Just thinking about a guy sort of off the radar who could get an opportunity.

 
Polian has to be the dumbest GM in the business.  Hands down.
I don't know if he is the worse, the Colts have been consistently good for some time; I think GMs should ulitmately be evaluated based on their track record. I think there record speaks volume. You also have to give him credit for having Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison under contract. He also allowed the controversial draft picks of Dwight Freeney and Edgerrin James (over Ricky Williams). He also brought in Corey Simon.
:goodposting: The Edge over Ricky move was brilliant, as was the pick of Freeney and signing Simon. Gotta give credit where credit's due...

:football:
Polian has been an excellent GM for a long time, how anyone can dispute that is beyond me.Think about the cojones it took to trade a perennial Pro Bowl RB in his prime and then use that pick to draft a RB NOT named Ricky Williams.

 
Regardless of who they draft at RB (and I'll bet they don't go RB with their #1), it's Rhodes job to lose. He's got enough talent to hold onto it for this season (if not longer) until the rookie gets up to speed. Injury is Rhodes' nemesis, not his ability to run the ball.

He didn't get much work last season as Edge was too good to take off the field.

 
Remember when the Buffalo Bills were a dominant team going to 4 SB in a row? Guess who was the GM.

;)

blurb from an article i read:

Former Buffalo Bills' general manager Bill Polian has now come full-circle. He was responsible for building those legendary teams in Buffalo in the early '90s. Now, he's doing the same thing with the Colts. Under his watch, the Colts have brought in Peyton Manning, Edgerrin James, Dwight Freeney, Cato June, Robert Mathis, Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne through the draft. Through free agency, Polian has managed to bring in Corey Simon, Montae Reagor, and Brandon Stokley.

Yesterday, in my piece on Bills' owner Ralph Wilson, I failed to mention the biggest mistake that he's ever made in his career. That, of course, was firing Polian. Wilson had a run in with Polian and decided to show the door to a man who has turned out to be the best personnel man in the league for the past 15 years. Well, the Bills' loss is the Colts' gain.

 
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Well, say what you will but Tony Dungy was asked on NFL Network yesterday the very same question and he said, without hesitation, that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back [his word, not mine] and will get first crack at replacing Edgerrin.

:shrug:
:goodposting:
:goodposting: :goodposting: :lmao: at everyone here completely dismissing the possibility that Rhodes can be a productive starter for the colts.

If he does, this will be bumpable gold. :thumbup:

 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all! I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter. Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season. He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.

 
He was on Sirius Radio today being interviewed by Adam Schein and Randy Cross.

The fellas asked him about losing Edge, and he said....

(Are you sitting down???)

"We think that Dominic Rhodes is a GREAT back, and he'll do fine as the starter."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

This is the same GREAT BACK who got all of 40 rushing attempts last year during a season in which Indy had leads of about 70 points in the 4th quarter of most games, and their workhorse back still stayed in the game.

Mr. Polian isn't a very good poker player.

Bottom line: INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - 1.30 - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
Maroney is worthless let someone else make the mistake of taking him in the first round.He should actually be a late second round or third round pick, unless you are really desperate for a RB and the Colts are not .

 
Polian has to be the dumbest GM in the business. Hands down.
:thumbdown: Bill is a five-time NFL Executive of the Year. Seems like he must know something about this football thing.
Bill took Manning over Leaf which seems like a no brainer now, but at the time it was a serious debate. He traded Faulk and decided against Ricky Willaims to take Edge. That worked out pretty well for him. That was a HUGE shock at the time.....The guy knows what he's doing.... :lmao: at people on a FFB forum saying that a 5 time GM of the year is an idiot. If you had a 10th of that guys' knowledge you would be working in the NFL, not screwing around on an FFB site on company time...

BTW, I am not an Indy Homer

 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all! I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter. Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season. He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.
even calhoun could fight off rhodes. sure rhodes knows the system, but he's a career backup. he may start the year off as the starter, but no way he lasts more than a couple games: especially if the colts land williams, white, or maroney.
 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all!  I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter.  Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season.  He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.
even calhoun could fight off rhodes. sure rhodes knows the system, but he's a career backup. he may start the year off as the starter, but no way he lasts more than a couple games: especially if the colts land williams, white, or maroney.
How about a sig bet? If the Colts draft any back in the draft not named Bush, Williams, White, or Maroney, I'll bet that Rhodes is the starter for the entire 2006 year unless he gets hurt. You seem pretty confident in Calhoun, so I'll go one better and give you all the backs in the draft except the one's I mentioned. Game?I'll even let you come up with a good sig bet.

 
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Assuming Rhodes gets first crack and Indy does not draft a RB early....

Who becomes an interesting dark horse? Is James Mungro a guy worth keeping an eye on? Just thinking about a guy sort of off the radar who could get an opportunity.
No.
 
As a Lions fan, I'd love to have this "idiot" drafting for us. ;)
Yeah, no kidding. It's just typical coach/gm speak. I agree with the orignal poster that the Colts are going to draft a RB.
 
I ran into Polian down here in Florida. I work at a golf course and we had a 10 minute conversation about football in general while I was packing up his bags and loading them in his car. While I was cleaning his clubs I asked him If Rhodes was the guy. I asked him if he could be the every down back. He said "absolutely an every down back." He did say that they would be "bringing someone else in" because every team needs to have 2 good backs. This was 2 weeks ago. Incidently, the reason I didn't post all this before was because i wasn't sure if would get into trouble at work or something. Should I be worried? Because I could go on. We talked about some other stuff too..

 
I ran into Polian down here in Florida. I work at a golf course and we had a 10 minute conversation about football in general while I was packing up his bags and loading them in his car. While I was cleaning his clubs I asked him If Rhodes was the guy. I asked him if he could be the every down back. He said "absolutely an every down back." He did say that they would be "bringing someone else in" because every team needs to have 2 good backs. This was 2 weeks ago. Incidently, the reason I didn't post all this before was because i wasn't sure if would get into trouble at work or something. Should I be worried? Because I could go on. We talked about some other stuff too..
:confused: So, you talked to a client while doing your job? I don't see how that could cause problems. Go on.FWIW, I doubt Pollian would have told you "No, Rhodes is not a good RB, we're trying to work a deal for Tatem Bell (or other RB)" no offense, but he isn't stupid enough to trust anyone.

 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all!  I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter.  Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season.  He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.
even calhoun could fight off rhodes. sure rhodes knows the system, but he's a career backup. he may start the year off as the starter, but no way he lasts more than a couple games: especially if the colts land williams, white, or maroney.
How about a sig bet? If the Colts draft any back in the draft not named Bush, Williams, White, or Maroney, I'll bet that Rhodes is the starter for the entire 2006 year unless he gets hurt. You seem pretty confident in Calhoun, so I'll go one better and give you all the backs in the draft except the one's I mentioned. Game?I'll even let you come up with a good sig bet.
This is just silly.If the Colts dont draft any of those guys, they likely didnt draft a back on the first day.

If a 2nd day pick takes Rhodes' job, its only because they got a crack at the job while Rhodes was injured.

If you were confident in Rhodes(and you think Indy is confident in Rhodes), your bet should be that the Colts will NOT draft a RB on the 1st day.

 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all!  I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter.  Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season.  He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.
even calhoun could fight off rhodes. sure rhodes knows the system, but he's a career backup. he may start the year off as the starter, but no way he lasts more than a couple games: especially if the colts land williams, white, or maroney.
How about a sig bet? If the Colts draft any back in the draft not named Bush, Williams, White, or Maroney, I'll bet that Rhodes is the starter for the entire 2006 year unless he gets hurt. You seem pretty confident in Calhoun, so I'll go one better and give you all the backs in the draft except the one's I mentioned. Game?I'll even let you come up with a good sig bet.
This is just silly.If the Colts dont draft any of those guys, they likely didnt draft a back on the first day.

If a 2nd day pick takes Rhodes' job, its only because they got a crack at the job while Rhodes was injured.

If you were confident in Rhodes(and you think Indy is confident in Rhodes), your bet should be that the Colts will NOT draft a RB on the 1st day.
:goodposting: Or just compromise and make it simple, Rhodes is the guy, or he isn't.

 
If Polian had started saying this, oh, LAST YEAR that Rhodes was more than capable and they would utilize him if things didn't work out with Edge, then MAYBE I would buy into this.

But now Edge is gone, other FA running backs have signed, and the crop of candidates is thin.  So what else can he say right now . . . "Rhodes really isn't that good and we'd take Adrian Murrell instead if we could get his number."

At this point, Rhodes is the best option the Colts currently have on their roster.  But Reche Caldwell is the best #2WR on the Patriots.  Does anyone really think Caldwell will be a starting WR this year?

Kinda like in Hollwood.  Twelve other A and B list actors turn down the part and a complete nobody takes the role.  Would anyone buy that that actor was the one the movie was meant to star in?

Maybe Rhodes does end up as the starter out of sheer necessity, but I still have a hard time believing that the Colts WANT that to happen.
DY:I am pretty sure there were reports that MoMo, Davenport and others were considered by Indy. Those guys went on to sign with their current teams to be clear backups. I find it hard to believe that those guys would have turned down less money to have a chance to compete for the starting position in Indy's high octane offense. Perhaps Polian didn't think those guys really were better than Rhodes? My point is that Indy had opportunities to sign some folks that many on this board feel could have been a legitimate starter. The fact that it didn't says a bit about the level of confidence Indy has in Rhodes.

Now you have Polian, an excellent GM, coming out and publicly saying that Rhodes will be "great." Rhodes might be Indy's best option today by default, but you have to give some credence to that statement. Polian could have simply said that the team has confidence in Rhodes and will continue to look to bolster the RB position. Why take the additional step of touting Rhodes?

I don't think Indy needs to WANT Rhodes to be the back, but the indications are that Indy believes Rhodes CAN be the starter.

Of course, if Indy drafts a Round 1 RB, Rhodes' value will go down quite a bit. I think there is at least an even chance to Indy doesn't draft a RB in the first round and waits until a later round to "add depth" at the position.

 
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Your right. I told him that I was a hardcore lions fan and that I got to know Mr. Ford Senior while working at a club he belongs to out on Long Island one summer a couple of years ago. He told me, like everyone in the league, that he really has a lot of respect for Mr. Ford (he referred to hiim as Mr.) and he talked to him after Indy kicked our *** on Turkey day two years ago. He said that Mr. Ford envied their team and the job he was doing and that he wished The could have a GM like him in Detroit. Mr. Polian said that what he didnt tell Mr. Ford was that he would have gladly came to Detroit after Buffalo but there was never a phone call made. He also said that our current GM Matt Millen was "learning on the Job." " Learning things that he learned 20 years ago while working in the CFL." Then his wife added that he shouldn't have had this many chances. I told him this was the best time of the year to be a Lions fan and he laughed like h***. He said he admired are fan base and our dedication to an underperforming team... He seemed real sincere and I personally beleive him about Rhodes. He said Edge had changed his running style into more of a down hill runner which isn't ideal for their offense...

 
Your right.  I told him that I was a hardcore lions fan and that I got to know Mr. Ford Senior while working at a club he belongs to out on Long Island one summer a couple of years ago.  He told me, like everyone in the league, that he really has a lot of respect for Mr. Ford (he referred to hiim as Mr.) and he talked to him after Indy kicked our *** on Turkey day two years ago.  He said that Mr. Ford envied their team and the job he was doing and that he wished The could have a GM like him in Detroit.  Mr. Polian said that what he didnt tell Mr. Ford was that he would have gladly came to Detroit after Buffalo but there was never a phone call made.  He also said that our current GM Matt Millen was "learning on the Job." " Learning things that  he learned 20 years ago while working in the CFL."  Then his wife added that he shouldn't have had this many chances.  I told him this was the best time of the year to be a Lions fan and he laughed like h***.  He said he admired are fan base and our dedication to an underperforming team...  He seemed real sincere and I personally beleive him about Rhodes.  He said Edge had changed his running style into more of a down hill runner which isn't ideal for their offense...
While this may be so, I have a hard time thinking an owner came right out and said that.
 
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Your right.  I told him that I was a hardcore lions fan and that I got to know Mr. Ford Senior while working at a club he belongs to out on Long Island one summer a couple of years ago.  He told me, like everyone in the league, that he really has a lot of respect for Mr. Ford (he referred to hiim as Mr.) and he talked to him after Indy kicked our *** on Turkey day two years ago.  He said that Mr. Ford envied their team and the job he was doing and that he wished The could have a GM like him in Detroit.  Mr. Polian said that what he didnt tell Mr. Ford was that he would have gladly came to Detroit after Buffalo but there was never a phone call made.  He also said that our current GM Matt Millen was "learning on the Job." " Learning things that  he learned 20 years ago while working in the CFL."  Then his wife added that he shouldn't have had this many chances.  I told him this was the best time of the year to be a Lions fan and he laughed like h***.  He said he admired are fan base and our dedication to an underperforming team...   He seemed real sincere and I personally beleive him about Rhodes.  He said Edge had changed his running style into more of a down hill runner which isn't ideal for their offense...
While this may be so, I have a hard time thinking an owner came right out and said that.
Before I meet Mr. Ford I was the biggest "anti-ford" guy there was. I refused to buy a Ford and hated driving in them. When I meet Mr. Ford I realized just how passionate he truly was about the Lions. He has thrown so much money at the Lions in an attempt to make them better and nothing has worked. He might not have said that Verbatim but I guarantee he said something to that affect...
 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all!  I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter.  Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season.  He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.
even calhoun could fight off rhodes. sure rhodes knows the system, but he's a career backup. he may start the year off as the starter, but no way he lasts more than a couple games: especially if the colts land williams, white, or maroney.
How about a sig bet? If the Colts draft any back in the draft not named Bush, Williams, White, or Maroney, I'll bet that Rhodes is the starter for the entire 2006 year unless he gets hurt. You seem pretty confident in Calhoun, so I'll go one better and give you all the backs in the draft except the one's I mentioned. Game?I'll even let you come up with a good sig bet.
i'm not confident in calhoun at all, thats why i mentioned his name. i was exaggerating for effect. no way i'm taking a bet that my winning depends on the success of brian calhoun. the only back i'm high on beyond the top 4 is norwood. the bottom line is that i don't think rhodes is the guy. if things go their way, they'll grab one of the top 4 backs in the draft and he'll grab the starting gig from rhodes by mid-season.

 
Your right.  I told him that I was a hardcore lions fan and that I got to know Mr. Ford Senior while working at a club he belongs to out on Long Island one summer a couple of years ago.  He told me, like everyone in the league, that he really has a lot of respect for Mr. Ford (he referred to hiim as Mr.) and he talked to him after Indy kicked our *** on Turkey day two years ago.  He said that Mr. Ford envied their team and the job he was doing and that he wished The could have a GM like him in Detroit.  Mr. Polian said that what he didnt tell Mr. Ford was that he would have gladly came to Detroit after Buffalo but there was never a phone call made.  He also said that our current GM Matt Millen was "learning on the Job." " Learning things that  he learned 20 years ago while working in the CFL."  Then his wife added that he shouldn't have had this many chances.  I told him this was the best time of the year to be a Lions fan and he laughed like h***.  He said he admired are fan base and our dedication to an underperforming team...   He seemed real sincere and I personally beleive him about Rhodes.  He said Edge had changed his running style into more of a down hill runner which isn't ideal for their offense...
While this may be so, I have a hard time thinking an owner came right out and said that.
This probably falls under the "It never hurts to ask" strategy. Mr. Ford knows that Polian is a top GM in the league and that he has been with the same team for quite awhile. He drops a hint without extending a real offer.
 
I own Rhodes is several of my leagues... I'm not hatin on him at all!  I think he's got the best shot right now to be the starter.  Even if they bring in a rook, Rhodes knows the system better than anyone and should be the starter at the begining of the season.  He could very well be the starter throughout the entire year and make his fantasy owners very happy.
even calhoun could fight off rhodes. sure rhodes knows the system, but he's a career backup. he may start the year off as the starter, but no way he lasts more than a couple games: especially if the colts land williams, white, or maroney.
How about a sig bet? If the Colts draft any back in the draft not named Bush, Williams, White, or Maroney, I'll bet that Rhodes is the starter for the entire 2006 year unless he gets hurt. You seem pretty confident in Calhoun, so I'll go one better and give you all the backs in the draft except the one's I mentioned. Game?I'll even let you come up with a good sig bet.
:goodposting: I don't see anyone taking you up on this? Of those 2. :popcorn:

Come on guys, but it on the line like MR. U.

 
Polian could make the hall of fame someday...I'd trust his judgment on most things. Rhodes has shown flashes of being an elite RB, but like everyone else, I have no idea why he wasn't used more last year.

 
Polian could make the hall of fame someday...I'd trust his judgment on most things. Rhodes has shown flashes of being an elite RB, but like everyone else, I have no idea why he wasn't used more last year.
Maybe he wasn't used last year because this is the exact scenario that they planned for. Run Edge into the ground because we can't/won't resign him anyway, and keeps Rhodes fresh for next year. If I was a cut throat GM that is what I would do. No reason to put any miles on Rhodes if he is most likely going to be your work horse next season. Just a thought.

:pics:

 
Polian could make the hall of fame someday...I'd trust his judgment on most things. Rhodes has shown flashes of being an elite RB, but like everyone else, I have no idea why he wasn't used more last year.
Maybe he wasn't used last year because this is the exact scenario that they planned for. Run Edge into the ground because we can't/won't resign him anyway, and keeps Rhodes fresh for next year. If I was a cut throat GM that is what I would do. No reason to put any miles on Rhodes if he is most likely going to be your work horse next season. Just a thought.

:pics:
Kind of true.Rhodes had shoulder problems and ankle problems last year.

 
the minute rhodes separates his bum shoulder again, whatever rookie they draft will (no pun intended) take the ball and run with it.

 
Assuming Rhodes gets first crack and Indy does not draft a RB early....

Who becomes an interesting dark horse? Is James Mungro a guy worth keeping an eye on? Just thinking about a guy sort of off the radar who could get an opportunity.
An interesting dark horse.......is.Fragile Fred Taylor.

JMHO

 

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