Colts unlikely to bring back Joseph Addai? (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

According to FOX Sports' Adam Caplan, the chances of the Colts re-signing free agent Joseph Addai are "much less than 50-50."

As his prime evidence, Caplan cites the fact that Donald Brown was a recent first-round pick. Although he's a respected insider, Caplan is under-selling Addai's chances of being back. Brown has yet to prove he can stay healthy or go for over 4.0 yards per carry, and Indy will certainly look to pair him with a veteran back. Addai is far from a game breaker, but won't cost much and has been a natural fit in Indianapolis' offense.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/200...-picks-for-kolb

In my opinion they should get rid of Brown and Keep Addai and draft his replacement in the next couple of years. Donald Brown hasn't shown me anything to indicate he can be a starting RB in the NFL.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

According to FOX Sports' Adam Caplan, the chances of the Colts re-signing free agent Joseph Addai are "much less than 50-50."

As his prime evidence, Caplan cites the fact that Donald Brown was a recent first-round pick. Although he's a respected insider, Caplan is under-selling Addai's chances of being back. Brown has yet to prove he can stay healthy or go for over 4.0 yards per carry, and Indy will certainly look to pair him with a veteran back. Addai is far from a game breaker, but won't cost much and has been a natural fit in Indianapolis' offense.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/200...-picks-for-kolb

In my opinion they should get rid of Brown and Keep Addai and draft his replacement in the next couple of years. Donald Brown hasn't shown me anything to indicate he can be a starting RB in the NFL.

Caplan talking out of his ### here..Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

 

[David Yudkin]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . .

Joseph Addai 3.81

Donald Brown 3.76

Dominic Rhodes 3.76

Mike Hart 3.72

The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . . Joseph Addai 3.81Donald Brown 3.76Dominic Rhodes 3.76 Mike Hart 3.72The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

You have to account for catches and blocking ability. And once you do, Addai>>Brown.. no contest..

 

[travdogg]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . .

Joseph Addai 3.81

Donald Brown 3.76

Dominic Rhodes 3.76

Mike Hart 3.72

The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

I don't think people realize how bad their o-line is. Its probably been the worst offensive line in the NFL over the last 4 years, ever since Tarik Glenn retired. If they didn't have Peyton Manning, I very much believe they'd be the worst offense in the NFL.

 

[The Berry Man]

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Addai is a free agent and Brown is under a very cheap rookie contract.

 

[todisco1]

I think it all comes down to what Addai wants. If he wants to make the most money the Colts may very well let him go. If he's willing to give a slight discount, then they would probably love to have him back.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Addai can catch and seems to have a good nose for the end zone. Durability is an issue, but he'll start somewhere in a timeshare, maybe.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Addai is a free agent and Brown is under a very cheap rookie contract.

If Addai wants to much money then I'd say you're on to something. But to keep a talentless Brown over Addai because Brown is just plain cheaper would be silly. Brown will likely still be with the team next season, but the contract makes it easy for him to be traded as well.I'd keep Addai, could care less about Brown and his contract. Brown can't fill the RB1 role.

 

[Inspiration]

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Addai is a free agent and Brown is under a very cheap rookie contract.

If Addai wants to much money then I'd say you're on to something. But to keep a talentless Brown over Addai because Brown is just plain cheaper would be silly. Brown will likely still be with the team next season, but the contract makes it easy for him to be traded as well.I'd keep Addai, could care less about Brown and his contract. Brown can't fill the RB1 role.

Sure, but the people who ultimately make the decisions do (assuming you meant 'couldn't', rather than 'could'). While Brown is clearly not as talented as Addai, 3 years of Donald Brown at $635,000, $865,000 and $905,000 might ultimately provide more value for the Colts than Addai would on "market-value" contract. Keeping an inferior player due to contract status is not only NOT silly, but it happens quite frequently in the NFL (St. Louis doesn't have a better option at safety than O.J Atogwe on their roster right now). Of course, it's also important to remember that keeping Addai and Brown is not mutually exclusive. Addai's contract demands will likely have a much greater impact on his chances of remaining in Indianapolis than Donald Brown's presence.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Addai is a free agent and Brown is under a very cheap rookie contract.

If Addai wants to much money then I'd say you're on to something. But to keep a talentless Brown over Addai because Brown is just plain cheaper would be silly. Brown will likely still be with the team next season, but the contract makes it easy for him to be traded as well.I'd keep Addai, could care less about Brown and his contract. Brown can't fill the RB1 role.

Sure, but the people who ultimately make the decisions do (assuming you meant 'couldn't', rather than 'could'). While Brown is clearly not as talented as Addai, 3 years of Donald Brown at $635,000, $865,000 and $905,000 might ultimately provide more value for the Colts than Addai would on "market-value" contract. Keeping an inferior player due to contract status is not only NOT silly, but it happens quite frequently in the NFL (St. Louis doesn't have a better option at safety than O.J Atogwe on their roster right now). Of course, it's also important to remember that keeping Addai and Brown is not mutually exclusive. Addai's contract demands will likely have a much greater impact on his chances of remaining in Indianapolis than Donald Brown's presence.

That was my point..

 

[The Berry Man]

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Addai is a free agent and Brown is under a very cheap rookie contract.

If Addai wants to much money then I'd say you're on to something. But to keep a talentless Brown over Addai because Brown is just plain cheaper would be silly. Brown will likely still be with the team next season, but the contract makes it easy for him to be traded as well.I'd keep Addai, could care less about Brown and his contract. Brown can't fill the RB1 role.

No one is talking about keeping one "over" the other. The point is Addai is a free agent, and Brown is not, and Brown is cheap and you said that Addai is more likely to be with the Colts than Brown. In order for that to be true, Addai would have to be re-signed and the Colts would have to cut Brown. There's no reason for them to do that, so it's not a smart thing to say.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Addai is a free agent and Brown is under a very cheap rookie contract.

If Addai wants to much money then I'd say you're on to something. But to keep a talentless Brown over Addai because Brown is just plain cheaper would be silly. Brown will likely still be with the team next season, but the contract makes it easy for him to be traded as well.I'd keep Addai, could care less about Brown and his contract. Brown can't fill the RB1 role.

No one is talking about keeping one "over" the other. The point is Addai is a free agent, and Brown is not, and Brown is cheap and you said that Addai is more likely to be with the Colts than Brown. In order for that to be true, Addai would have to be re-signed and the Colts would have to cut Brown. There's no reason for them to do that, so it's not a smart thing to say.

The bolded statement doesn't mean it has to be one or the other.And my point is/was/has been all along, that Brown being in Indy should have no bearing on Addai, regardless of Browns contract, because Brown can't do Addai's job.

If Addai leaves it won't be because Brown is there.

 

[BigTex]

Brown is smart and talented, he'll figure it out.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Brown is smart and talented, he'll figure it out.

Yes, if he can quit running into the back of his offensive line. From what I've seen Brown has no vision. He couldn't spot a hole unless it was the size of....[you make the call].

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass

What I still don't get is why people continue to put so much weight into this when it has shown so remarkably little correlation to actual production on the field.Every year the majority of the top running backs come from teams with unremarkable passing attacks. Further, in the past three years only one team that was top 5 in passing was also top 5 in rushing YPC (2010 Texans).The Colts' horrific offensive line is approximately 374298734 times more detrimental to their rushing attack than their good passing game is helpful to it.

 

[No Way Jose]

Addai will be back if Peyton wants him back. I think Peyton likes him.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass

What I still don't get is why people continue to put so much weight into this when it has shown so remarkably little correlation to actual production on the field.Every year the majority of the top running backs come from teams with unremarkable passing attacks. Further, in the past three years only one team that was top 5 in passing was also top 5 in rushing YPC (2010 Texans).The Colts' horrific offensive line is approximately 374298734 times more detrimental to their rushing attack than their good passing game is helpful to it.

I agree. I'm now convinced the Colts will take one of Nate Solder, Gabe Carimi, Anthony Castanzo, Ben Ijalana, Derek Sherrod, Tyron Smith, or Mike Pouncey. They might just take two in a row if one falls. If not, Kendall Hunter would be a good pick in the 2nd round if there isn't a 2nd round worthy DT available. One thing I don't want them to do is reach. I want them to take the best player available in the 2nd round regardless.

 

[Bdub]

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass

What I still don't get is why people continue to put so much weight into this when it has shown so remarkably little correlation to actual production on the field.Every year the majority of the top running backs come from teams with unremarkable passing attacks. Further, in the past three years only one team that was top 5 in passing was also top 5 in rushing YPC (2010 Texans).The Colts' horrific offensive line is approximately 374298734 times more detrimental to their rushing attack than their good passing game is helpful to it.

I agree. I'm now convinced the Colts will take one of Nate Solder, Gabe Carimi, Anthony Castanzo, Ben Ijalana, Derek Sherrod, Tyron Smith, or Mike Pouncey. They might just take two in a row if one falls. If not, Kendall Hunter would be a good pick in the 2nd round if there isn't a 2nd round worthy DT available. One thing I don't want them to do is reach. I want them to take the best player available in the 2nd round regardless.

I was super pissed last year when we drafted Hughes instead of Saffold. Really? Really?

 

[Aznflyer14]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . .

Joseph Addai 3.81

Donald Brown 3.76

Dominic Rhodes 3.76

Mike Hart 3.72

The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

I don't think people realize how bad their o-line is. Its probably been the worst offensive line in the NFL over the last 4 years, ever since Tarik Glenn retired. If they didn't have Peyton Manning, I very much believe they'd be the worst offense in the NFL.

Agreed

 

[trader jake]

Addai will be back if Peyton wants him back. I think Peyton likes him.

 

[rzrback77]

Are these quotes as difficult to follow for everybody as they are for me???

I'll shut up and try to listen now.

 

[rzrback77]

Are these quotes as difficult to follow for everybody as they are for me???

I'll shut up and try to listen now.

 

[rzrback77]

Are these quotes as difficult to follow for everybody as they are for me??? and are replies excruciatingly slow???

I'll shut up and try to listen now.

 

[tooski]

Are these quotes as difficult to follow for everybody as they are for me??? and are replies excruciatingly slow???I'll shut up and try to listen now.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I'm assuming the quoting look will get corrected. This is hard to look at.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Are these quotes as difficult to follow for everybody as they are for me???I'll shut up and try to listen now.

 

[cr8f]

<!--quoteo(post=12935287:date=Feb 20 2011, 04:38 PM:name=Hoss_Cartwright)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hoss_Cartwright @ Feb 20 2011, 04:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12935287"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->According to FOX Sports' Adam Caplan, the chances of the Colts re-signing free agent Joseph Addai are "much less than 50-50."

As his prime evidence, Caplan cites the fact that Donald Brown was a recent first-round pick. Although he's a respected insider, Caplan is under-selling Addai's chances of being back. Brown has yet to prove he can stay healthy or go for over 4.0 yards per carry, and Indy will certainly look to pair him with a veteran back. Addai is far from a game breaker, but won't cost much and has been a natural fit in Indianapolis' offense.

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<!--coloro:#2E8B57--><span style="color:#2E8B57"><!--/coloro--> <b>In my opinion they should get rid of Brown and Keep Addai and draft his replacement in the next couple of years. Donald Brown hasn't shown me anything to indicate he can be a starting RB in the NFL</b>.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Caplan talking out of his ### here..

Addai is more likely to stay with the Colts then Donald Brown..

Caplan does that a alot. I agree Brown hasn't shown anything.

 

[cr8f]

<!--quoteo(post=12935391:date=Feb 20 2011, 05:28 PM:name=travdogg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (travdogg @ Feb 20 2011, 05:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12935391"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12935355:date=Feb 20 2011, 04:14 PM:name=David Yudkin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David Yudkin @ Feb 20 2011, 04:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12935355"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . .

Joseph Addai 3.81

Donald Brown 3.76

Dominic Rhodes 3.76

Mike Hart 3.72

The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.

<b>I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't think people realize how bad their o-line is. Its probably been the worst offensive line in the NFL over the last 4 years, ever since Tarik Glenn retired. If they didn't have Peyton Manning, I very much believe they'd be the worst offense in the NFL.

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Agreed <img src="http://static.footballguys.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbup1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" " border="0" alt="thumbup1.gif" />

Statistically but watching the games Addai has been a lot more effective. What are their 3rd down carries for 1st down statistics?

As a starter his YPC average is 4.3, as a sub 3.8. On grass 4.5, turf 3.9.

Brown-starter 4.2 sub 3.0; on grass 3.0 turf 4.3.

Looks like start Addai on grass, Brown on turf.

 

[yetiknight]

I think they keep him due to the aforementioned Peyton Manning factor.

If they don't, it will be very interesting to see who ends up with him. He could be a very solid replacement for LT2. He would be best used as a 3rd down/change of pace back. I don't think there is a more obvious place for him.

 

[Hoosier16]

Yes, if he can quit running into the back of his offensive line. From what I've seen Brown has no vision. He couldn't spot a hole unless it was the size of....[you make the call].

Watching the Indy games this year, I had trouble spotting the holes also. The one thing that bugged me was watching Brown do that stupid spin move . . into the back of the lineman. It sure makes it hard to find a tiny hole when your back is to the line.

 

[az_prof]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . . Joseph Addai 3.81Donald Brown 3.76Dominic Rhodes 3.76 Mike Hart 3.72The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

Great evidence that the backs have been pretty much interchangeable. I think this argues for letting Addai go unless he is willing to sign for a modest contract.As for why they haven't done better, I think it comes down two things: the OL and the offensive strategy. The OL is just not very good at run blocking. Secondly, the run play calling is pretty bad, with half of the runs being out of the shot gun and the HB just runs up the gut and gets 1-2 yards. Predictable. It is hard to be a good running team if you don't really make that the focus of the offense and aren't committed to it. Indianapolis has relied upon Manning and I think the time of him being able to carry the team on his back is over. He is good, but he isn't that good anymore. They DO need to remake the offense, bulk up the OL, and redesign the playbook.

 

[doowain]

Dammit Donald!

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

If Addai does not return where do you guys see him potentially going?

 

[BigTex]

Addai will be back if Peyton wants him back. I think Peyton likes him.

I watched an interview with Peyton around week 14 or 15. It boasted about the progress in Brown and how he was dealing with some injury issue. It seemed at the end of the year something with Brown started to click, not sure what it was but I'm not going to write him off yet.

 

[brewer]

Anybody think that Mike Hart would have a legit shot at taking this job if he could ever stay healthy? He has looked good in his limited chances before he hurt. And yes, I know the yards per carry are similar to the others.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Anybody think that Mike Hart would have a legit shot at taking this job if he could ever stay healthy? He has looked good in his limited chances before he hurt. And yes, I know the yards per carry are similar to the others.

If they do let Addai walk, I'd guess there's a pretty good chance that Brown and Hart split the carries and James sticks around as a potential short yardage back.I thought that there was no way that they let Addai go, but there more I think about it, I'm starting to think it's quite possible. Let's face it, they are a pass first team anyway, and they could sure stand to invest that money in o-line and defensive help.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Anybody think that Mike Hart would have a legit shot at taking this job if he could ever stay healthy? He has looked good in his limited chances before he hurt. And yes, I know the yards per carry are similar to the others.

If they do let Addai walk, I'd guess there's a pretty good chance that Brown and Hart split the carries and James sticks around as a potential short yardage back.I thought that there was no way that they let Addai go, but there more I think about it, I'm starting to think it's quite possible. Let's face it, they are a pass first team anyway, and they could sure stand to invest that money in o-line and defensive help.

Maybe so, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts take a RB in the 2nd or 3rd as long as it isn't a reach.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Anybody think that Mike Hart would have a legit shot at taking this job if he could ever stay healthy? He has looked good in his limited chances before he hurt. And yes, I know the yards per carry are similar to the others.

If they do let Addai walk, I'd guess there's a pretty good chance that Brown and Hart split the carries and James sticks around as a potential short yardage back.I thought that there was no way that they let Addai go, but there more I think about it, I'm starting to think it's quite possible. Let's face it, they are a pass first team anyway, and they could sure stand to invest that money in o-line and defensive help.

Maybe so, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts take a RB in the 2nd or 3rd as long as it isn't a reach.

I wouldn't be shocked by that either and you do follow the team more closely than I do, so I wouldn't dismiss it. I do think that the way the Colts offens is run that a RBBC with Brown, Hart and James could be effective so long as the Colts upgrade that putrid o-line. It's amazing what an o-line can do for an average RB. While Brown has shown poor vision, he has shown some impressive quickness - if the holes start opening up the lack of vision becomes less of an issue if he's able to burst through the first level quickly.At the same time I certainly wouldn't be shocked if they bring back Addai either - it's just that what I thought was a sure thing at one point now seems like it is considerably less than a "sure thing".

 

[az_prof]

If Addai does not return where do you guys see him potentially going?

How about Washington? They need a back. Not sure if Shanny is using One Cut offense there, but I think Addai would actually shine in that kind of running system.

 

[trader jake]

If Addai does not return where do you guys see him potentially going?

How about Washington? They need a back. Not sure if Shanny is using One Cut offense there, but I think Addai would actually shine in that kind of running system.

Doesn't seem like Shanahan's style. I'm sure Big Boy Daniel Snyder would be willing to cut the check but scheme wise it doesn't make much sense.Indy seems like a perfect fit but another one I think makes is the Patriots. Addai can catch the ball out of the backfield and he's one of the best running backs in the league at picking up the blitz. His veteran presence makes a lot of sense in Belichick's offense. Darkhorse team? The Saints if Pierre Thomas or Reggie Bush are not back. Addai went to LSU and for the same reasons listed above would be a good fit in New Orleans offense.

 

[NeverEnough]

What is the latest on Addai?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Is there any chance that Indy would go after a guy like Bradshaw?

The offense was much better when they had a good runner in there with Edge, and ever since then they've just been lolly gagging around with plodders that can't take anything more than the line gives them on any play.

 

[Jerry Lawler]

I don't think the Colts have the money to reasonably go after Bradshaw. They've just got too many other guys to sign, including Manning. Regarding the running game, this Colts fan believes the problems are mostly due to atrocious blocking. While Donald Brown has been a bust, Addai has been very good when healthy.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I don't think the Colts have the money to reasonably go after Bradshaw. They've just got too many other guys to sign, including Manning. Regarding the running game, this Colts fan believes the problems are mostly due to atrocious blocking. While Donald Brown has been a bust, Addai has been very good when healthy.

Carter may be pretty good too. We will see.

 

[T J]

Would love to see DeAngelo Williams land in Indy.

 

[Sinrman]

In a year where there is little time to learn and execute in a new offense, I think we'll see more re-signings than usual. Not ones to rock the boat, I don't

see Indy going for a new RB. Especially ones who would command higher money, a la Bradshaw, D Williams, or Bush.

 

[TheFanatic]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . .

Joseph Addai 3.81

Donald Brown 3.76

Dominic Rhodes 3.76

Mike Hart 3.72

The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

Great evidence that the backs have been pretty much interchangeable. I think this argues for letting Addai go unless he is willing to sign for a modest contract.As for why they haven't done better, I think it comes down two things: the OL and the offensive strategy. The OL is just not very good at run blocking. Secondly, the run play calling is pretty bad, with half of the runs being out of the shot gun and the HB just runs up the gut and gets 1-2 yards. Predictable. It is hard to be a good running team if you don't really make that the focus of the offense and aren't committed to it. Indianapolis has relied upon Manning and I think the time of him being able to carry the team on his back is over. He is good, but he isn't that good anymore. They DO need to remake the offense, bulk up the OL, and redesign the playbook.

And this is great evidence why we're on fantasy football boards and not sitting in NFL front offices. The interchangeability of theses guys has nothing to do with YPC and everything to do with blocking for Manning. Whichever guy can't keep Peyton upright is the guy who gets to ride the pine. Whichever does it the best will be a top 10-12 player, if not higher, if he plays all 16. YPC is not nearly as important as what the RB does on third and long and never leaves the backfield.

 

[Crippler]

Over the past 3 seasons combined, here are the ypcs for IND RBs with at least 50 total carries . .

Joseph Addai 3.81

Donald Brown 3.76

Dominic Rhodes 3.76

Mike Hart 3.72

The difference between these guys is almost a left foot/right foot spotting of the football.

I still don't get how the Colts running game has been so mediocre given that teams play them to pass and they play half their games indoors on a fast track.

Great evidence that the backs have been pretty much interchangeable. I think this argues for letting Addai go unless he is willing to sign for a modest contract.As for why they haven't done better, I think it comes down two things: the OL and the offensive strategy. The OL is just not very good at run blocking. Secondly, the run play calling is pretty bad, with half of the runs being out of the shot gun and the HB just runs up the gut and gets 1-2 yards. Predictable. It is hard to be a good running team if you don't really make that the focus of the offense and aren't committed to it. Indianapolis has relied upon Manning and I think the time of him being able to carry the team on his back is over. He is good, but he isn't that good anymore. They DO need to remake the offense, bulk up the OL, and redesign the playbook.

And this is great evidence why we're on fantasy football boards and not sitting in NFL front offices. The interchangeability of theses guys has nothing to do with YPC and everything to do with blocking for Manning. Whichever guy can't keep Peyton upright is the guy who gets to ride the pine. Whichever does it the best will be a top 10-12 player, if not higher, if he plays all 16. YPC is not nearly as important as what the RB does on third and long and never leaves the backfield.

And that is why Addai is an important piece to bring back because he has excellent hands and is such a good blocker. Plus Manning loves having guys he trusts around.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Both Cripler and Fanatic,