Commish adds more and more scoring rules every year... (1 Viewer)

[The Ghost of Common]

I've been in this league for 13 years and have no desire to quit. We've been together since high school.

Every year the league fee goes up 20 dollars (fine no big deal).

Every year the commish comes up with these extra scoring rules and I think we're at the point that it's completely blown out of proportion. I just feel like there's too much luck involved with some of these scoring set ups.

Any thoughts, I'm thinking of #####ing up a storm here to ask him to settle down. Every year it's something new and there's so much going on it's hard to nail down a strategy. When I put this scoring system into the VBD application, you should see how skewed the rankings get.

TDs are 6 points and there are points per yardage gained/passed, etc.

Here's all the extra crap:

Passing TDs 6 Points

.1 Point per completion

.1 Point per rushing attempt

Passing: 300 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 350 yards gets you another 2 points, 400 yards gets you another 3 points (essentially you get 10 points for 400 yard game, PLUS the standard yardage scoring you already received)

Rushing: 100 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 150 yards gets you another 2 points, 200 yards gets you another 3 points

Receiving: 100 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 150 yards gets you another 2 points, 200 yards gets you another 3 points

PPR

Def/ST Kickoff or Punt Return TD is 6 points

50 Yard Field Goal gets you 6 points! (this one really chaps my ###)

Anyone out there have anything crazier than this? I'd like to see it.

Does anyone see any areas of this scoring system to exploit?

 

[bonscott]

Actually looks pretty similar to my league actually other then the bonus points are too high in my opinion.

For rush or receive we award 2 bonus pts at 100, 1 more at 150 and 1 more at 200.

For passing we award 3 bonus at 300 and 2 more at 350.

This is mainly legacy from 10 years ago when we started. Everyrone likes it so we keep it.

For field goals we award .1 per yard just like for rush/receive yards, min of 3. Thus a 50 yard FG would be 5 pts. A 55 yard FG would be 5.5 pts. We also give negative pts for missing a FG shorter then 30 yards.

We also award .1 per rush attempt. We don't do the pts per completion but instead award pts for completion % (a better way IMO as it awards a good passing day vs. getting pts because you completed 45 passes in a blowout comback attempt).

PPR of course is very standard as is 6 pts per defensive/ST TDs (along with all kinds of other def/ST pts like sacks, pts against, yards against, INTs, etc.)

So it really isn't all that "out there" other then I think 6 bonus pts is high for the 100 and 300 yd spots.

 

[The Ghost of Common]

Starting requirements

1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex (RB, WR, TE), 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D/ST

First year we've had the flex spot. Go WR heavy in the draft?

 

[Pickle Rody]

First question: Why does the league allow the commish to just willy-nilly change the scoring parameters? It should be a league-wide vote for all proposed scoring changes, with a majority needed to enforce any changes. This way the league is not forced to swallow a bunch of ridiculous changes and everyone is aware ahead of time of any changes and can plan accordingly.

* In my league a 50-59 yard field goal nets you 8 points. A 60+ yarder is worth 12 points.

* All TD's are worth 6 points, with escalators built in depending on the length of the TD.

* We award bonus points for yardage milestones; For QB, beginning at 200 yards passing being worth 3 points, then an increase with each 50 yards after that. (Same for RB, WR and TE except the yardage milestone begins at 50 yards for RB & WR, 25 yards for TE.)

***Absolutely no rule changes, scoring or otherwise, unless the league votes (by majority) to make such changes.***

 

[redsoxfan]

Nothing here I haven't seen before, though a couple of them aren't all that common.

I've never liked the "milestone" bonuses that a lot of leagues use. Seems completely artificial to me. There's absolutely no difference between running for 199 yards or running for 200 yards to the guys playing the game, so it just seems odd to make the 200 yard game worth significantly more than the 199 yard game.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Nothing here I haven't seen before, though a couple of them aren't all that common.

I've never liked the "milestone" bonuses that a lot of leagues use. Seems completely artificial to me. There's absolutely no difference between running for 199 yards or running for 200 yards to the guys playing the game, so it just seems odd to make the 200 yard game worth significantly more than the 199 yard game.

I agree. It's just the way the league wanted it. Can't remember if I voted for it or not, but I think I was in favor of a standard 0.05 Points/Yard set-up. So, QB's don't get any yardage bonuses unless they hit 200 yards because the league voted it that way. Same with RB's or WR's. unless they get to 50+ yards, they accumulate no bonus points.That is the inherent problem with having the league vote for all rule changes. Sometimes rules/scoring parameters get put in place that really are not that good. In the end, the league as a whole is pretty happy though, and I cannot make any changes (as commish) until the league decides that is something that they want.

 

[bonscott]

I should clarify that in my league there are the bonus pts *in addition* to the normal .10 per yard rush/receive and .05 per yard pass. The bonus pts aren't the only pts you get for yards.

As for voting, we haven't had a scoring change in my league for few years but we do vote on the change. But such a change needs to be voted on well before the draft because draft strats can change based on the scoring. But we are a keeper league and any scoring change voted on probably wouldn't take effect until *next* season since scoring can also effect on who you keep or who you target at the trade deadline.

 

[Phurfur]

I've been in this league for 13 years and have no desire to quit. We've been together since high school.Every year the league fee goes up 20 dollars (fine no big deal). Every year the commish comes up with these extra scoring rules and I think we're at the point that it's completely blown out of proportion. I just feel like there's too much luck involved with some of these scoring set ups.Any thoughts, I'm thinking of #####ing up a storm here to ask him to settle down. Every year it's something new and there's so much going on it's hard to nail down a strategy. When I put this scoring system into the VBD application, you should see how skewed the rankings get.TDs are 6 points and there are points per yardage gained/passed, etc.Here's all the extra crapassing TDs 6 Points .1 Point per completion.1 Point per rushing attemptPassing: 300 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 350 yards gets you another 2 points, 400 yards gets you another 3 points (essentially you get 10 points for 400 yard game, PLUS the standard yardage scoring you already received)Rushing: 100 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 150 yards gets you another 2 points, 200 yards gets you another 3 pointsReceiving: 100 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 150 yards gets you another 2 points, 200 yards gets you another 3 pointsPPRDef/ST Kickoff or Punt Return TD is 6 points50 Yard Field Goal gets you 6 points! (this one really chaps my ###)Anyone out there have anything crazier than this? I'd like to see it.Does anyone see any areas of this scoring system to exploit?

Are you saying the commish adds rules without a league vote?

 

[The Ghost of Common]

Yes commish adds something new every year but no one cares. This isn't not a shark league. Other than 2 or 3 of us, everyone just does the league because we've been doing it since high school and it's a great excuse to get away from the wife and get together with the guys.

I know given all that it doesn't make sense that the buy in is 300 dollars but everyone is well enough off to be able to afford it. The problem is, I'm very competitive so I actually care about all of these bogus rule changes but there is no way I'll be able to get a collection of a few owners who protest it, so it's futile.

The best thing I can do is look for strategies to exploit this scoring system. Any tips are appreciated.

 

[Defending Champs]

Similar to others, here is what we have in place to avoid this type of scenario.

Every year, each owner has the opportunity to elect a new rule, which we have few of. That rule is brought up to vote to all 12 owners. The vote must be approved by a majority of the owners (7) to come into affect.

This minimizes the "power" of the commish and allows for change in the system if needed or desired.

The system works with few complaints.

 

[HeyNow]

I've been in this league for 13 years and have no desire to quit. We've been together since high school.Every year the league fee goes up 20 dollars (fine no big deal). Every year the commish comes up with these extra scoring rules and I think we're at the point that it's completely blown out of proportion. I just feel like there's too much luck involved with some of these scoring set ups.Any thoughts, I'm thinking of #####ing up a storm here to ask him to settle down. Every year it's something new and there's so much going on it's hard to nail down a strategy. When I put this scoring system into the VBD application, you should see how skewed the rankings get.TDs are 6 points and there are points per yardage gained/passed, etc.Here's all the extra crapassing TDs 6 Points .1 Point per completion.1 Point per rushing attemptPassing: 300 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 350 yards gets you another 2 points, 400 yards gets you another 3 points (essentially you get 10 points for 400 yard game, PLUS the standard yardage scoring you already received)Rushing: 100 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 150 yards gets you another 2 points, 200 yards gets you another 3 pointsReceiving: 100 yards gets you 6 point bonus, 150 yards gets you another 2 points, 200 yards gets you another 3 pointsPPRDef/ST Kickoff or Punt Return TD is 6 points50 Yard Field Goal gets you 6 points! (this one really chaps my ###)Anyone out there have anything crazier than this? I'd like to see it.Does anyone see any areas of this scoring system to exploit?

Are you saying the commish adds rules without a league vote?

The Point per completion and per rushing attempt are both kind of crazy, even though it takes 10 of either to get 1 point. Why does the 6 point 50+ yard field goal make you angry? 5 or 6 points for a 50+ yard FG has been a rule in every league I have ever been in.The milestone bonuses on top of the yardage would make me crazy just because that to me is the main difference between a Yardage League and a TD heavy league.I do see a way to exploit this scoring system - draft better players.

 

[Knobs]

Start a new league. Invite your buddies. Set it up as you like.

 

[puckalicious]

First question: Why does the league allow the commish to just willy-nilly change the scoring parameters? It should be a league-wide vote for all proposed scoring changes, with a majority needed to enforce any changes. This way the league is not forced to swallow a bunch of ridiculous changes and everyone is aware ahead of time of any changes and can plan accordingly.

* In my league a 50-59 yard field goal nets you 8 points. A 60+ yarder is worth 12 points.

* All TD's are worth 6 points, with escalators built in depending on the length of the TD.

* We award bonus points for yardage milestones; For QB, beginning at 200 yards passing being worth 3 points, then an increase with each 50 yards after that. (Same for RB, WR and TE except the yardage milestone begins at 50 yards for RB & WR, 25 yards for TE.)

***Absolutely no rule changes, scoring or otherwise, unless the league votes (by majority) to make such changes.***

I commish 2 leagues and I would never want to be in a league where the commish can make changes whenever he wants. A majority must agree.That being said, in your league I would probably draft WR/QB/WR/WR in the first 4 rounds...

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Yes commish adds something new every year but no one cares. This isn't not a shark league. Other than 2 or 3 of us, everyone just does the league because we've been doing it since high school and it's a great excuse to get away from the wife and get together with the guys.I know given all that it doesn't make sense that the buy in is 300 dollars but everyone is well enough off to be able to afford it. The problem is, I'm very competitive so I actually care about all of these bogus rule changes but there is no way I'll be able to get a collection of a few owners who protest it, so it's futile.The best thing I can do is look for strategies to exploit this scoring system. Any tips are appreciated.

Does the commish always win? How often do you win the league?

 

[The Ghost of Common]

Yes commish adds something new every year but no one cares. This isn't not a shark league. Other than 2 or 3 of us, everyone just does the league because we've been doing it since high school and it's a great excuse to get away from the wife and get together with the guys.I know given all that it doesn't make sense that the buy in is 300 dollars but everyone is well enough off to be able to afford it. The problem is, I'm very competitive so I actually care about all of these bogus rule changes but there is no way I'll be able to get a collection of a few owners who protest it, so it's futile.The best thing I can do is look for strategies to exploit this scoring system. Any tips are appreciated.

Does the commish always win? How often do you win the league?

He's done well the past 2 years, winning once and runner up once. I won it 3 years ago.I guess it depends, I lost last year because I got too drunk before the draft and some kid who had never done fantasy before ended up picking my entire team for me.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Yes commish adds something new every year but no one cares. This isn't not a shark league. Other than 2 or 3 of us, everyone just does the league because we've been doing it since high school and it's a great excuse to get away from the wife and get together with the guys.I know given all that it doesn't make sense that the buy in is 300 dollars but everyone is well enough off to be able to afford it. The problem is, I'm very competitive so I actually care about all of these bogus rule changes but there is no way I'll be able to get a collection of a few owners who protest it, so it's futile.The best thing I can do is look for strategies to exploit this scoring system. Any tips are appreciated.

Does the commish always win? How often do you win the league?

He's done well the past 2 years, winning once and runner up once. I won it 3 years ago.I guess it depends, I lost last year because I got too drunk before the draft and some kid who had never done fantasy before ended up picking my entire team for me.

300 bucks is a decent enough amount of scratch, wouldn't you say? If I was playing with a bunch of jokers at $300 a head, and they let me change the rules at will...I'd probably keep doing it too. ESPECIALLY if I was winning.