Commish bush league move (1 Viewer)

[BigDave]

CBS Sportline allows a league to use a player spot for "injured reserved". We have 14 player rosters and you can have a 15th player if one's injured. Once he's no longer injured, he must be dropped or go to the bench.

A few weeks ago Parker was "injured" as shown by CBS Sportline. That week he played and another owner complained I had Parker on my injured reserved and then played him. The commish ruled that because Parker hadn't played prior to that and then played, he needed to be dropped after that healthy game and could no longer be on my injured reserve. Valid point, agreed.

OK, this week Parker is still listed as injured and on my reserve and plays. He's still listed as injured today and on my reserve still(I didn't play him last week) and the commish drops him from my team. He claims I was "hiding him on my injured reserve.

Rules state he's injured he can be on reserve, he's listed as injured. I think commish(who was just eliminated from playoffs) should not have dropped him.

Do you think commish should have dropped him??

 

[pantagrapher]

So any player on an injury list can be put in that IR slot? If so, how has this problem not come up before?

 

[BigDave]

It only causes a violation if a healthy player is "stashed " on IR. If Parker was healthy and I had him there, yes that's an issue.

Sometimes an injured player is on IR by CBS Sportline and comes off their injury report before a game. Then the owner needs to move that player to a bench position and drop someone else. However, if you're not on the site, then the commish should give you a warning.

In my case, Parker is listed right now as injured.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Is this like how Tom Brady was "injured" every week but played?

 

[theplayer11]

ridiculous rule..i'm not even sure how cbs describes injuries... by the injury symbol next to the name? No need for IR, guys could be questionable and play..just opens up a can of worms

 

[PosterNutBag]

I'm a little confused by what you just explained. Are you saying that while Parker was on IR for you, you also had him in your starting lineup? If that is the case, then I would have forced you to take him off IR that week and immediately cut another player on your roster.

I have a league with IR and it is to be used only to give the team an extra roster spot while players who are injured are healing. In no circumstance can you start a player who is currently on your IR. That is completely unfair since you are effectively increasing your active roster by one player while others do not have the same luxury.

So maybe I misunderstood what you are saying, but it seems to me that it should be common sense for all players that if a player is on IR, then he cannot also be in your starting lineup. You need to remove him from IR before actually starting him.

 

[PosterNutBag]

It only causes a violation if a healthy player is "stashed " on IR. If Parker was healthy and I had him there, yes that's an issue. Sometimes an injured player is on IR by CBS Sportline and comes off their injury report before a game. Then the owner needs to move that player to a bench position and drop someone else. However, if you're not on the site, then the commish should give you a warning. In my case, Parker is listed right now as injured.

Your league needs to tighten it's IR rules. My league only allows players to be put on IR if they are listed as DOUBTFUL or OUT on the injury report (or there is a credible media source listing a player as OUT). But the catch is that once you place a player on IR, the player has to be on IR for a minimum of 3 weeks (thus preventing people from abusing the IR system and forcing them to only use it for an extra roster spot in the case of a significant/legitimate injury situation).

 

[BigDave]

I'm a little confused by what you just explained. Are you saying that while Parker was on IR for you, you also had him in your starting lineup? If that is the case, then I would have forced you to take him off IR that week and immediately cut another player on your roster.I have a league with IR and it is to be used only to give the team an extra roster spot while players who are injured are healing. In no circumstance can you start a player who is currently on your IR. That is completely unfair since you are effectively increasing your active roster by one player while others do not have the same luxury.So maybe I misunderstood what you are saying, but it seems to me that it should be common sense for all players that if a player is on IR, then he cannot also be in your starting lineup. You need to remove him from IR before actually starting him.

I did not use Parker this week.

 

[BigDave]

It only causes a violation if a healthy player is "stashed " on IR. If Parker was healthy and I had him there, yes that's an issue. Sometimes an injured player is on IR by CBS Sportline and comes off their injury report before a game. Then the owner needs to move that player to a bench position and drop someone else. However, if you're not on the site, then the commish should give you a warning. In my case, Parker is listed right now as injured.

Your league needs to tighten it's IR rules. My league only allows players to be put on IR if they are listed as DOUBTFUL or OUT on the injury report (or there is a credible media source listing a player as OUT). But the catch is that once you place a player on IR, the player has to be on IR for a minimum of 3 weeks (thus preventing people from abusing the IR system and forcing them to only use it for an extra roster spot in the case of a significant/legitimate injury situation).

I agree. However, that's the way CBS Sportsline allows it. If the player is listed by them as injured, owners have been putting them on the IR. Some owners have a player on the IR and then if the player is upgraded or GTD, they've played them that week. That's not my scenario as I did not play Parker this week.

 

[Wrigley]

Any player added to our IR, must sit on the IR for 4 weeks. After 4 weeks you have 4 options

1: Place player back on IR(another 4 weeks)

2: Drop another player, and activate said player

3: Drop said player

4: Place a different player on IR, thus activating said player.

The IR is for guys who are hurt, guys you will need in the future.

Call it a wash, Parker is done anyway.

 

[[scooter]]

It only causes a violation if a healthy player is "stashed " on IR. If Parker was healthy and I had him there, yes that's an issue. Sometimes an injured player is on IR by CBS Sportline and comes off their injury report before a game. Then the owner needs to move that player to a bench position and drop someone else. However, if you're not on the site, then the commish should give you a warning. In my case, Parker is listed right now as injured.

So, can't you just re-acquire Parker and stick him on your IR?

 

[PosterNutBag]

It only causes a violation if a healthy player is "stashed " on IR. If Parker was healthy and I had him there, yes that's an issue. Sometimes an injured player is on IR by CBS Sportline and comes off their injury report before a game. Then the owner needs to move that player to a bench position and drop someone else. However, if you're not on the site, then the commish should give you a warning. In my case, Parker is listed right now as injured.

Your league needs to tighten it's IR rules. My league only allows players to be put on IR if they are listed as DOUBTFUL or OUT on the injury report (or there is a credible media source listing a player as OUT). But the catch is that once you place a player on IR, the player has to be on IR for a minimum of 3 weeks (thus preventing people from abusing the IR system and forcing them to only use it for an extra roster spot in the case of a significant/legitimate injury situation).

I agree. However, that's the way CBS Sportsline allows it. If the player is listed by them as injured, owners have been putting them on the IR. Some owners have a player on the IR and then if the player is upgraded or GTD, they've played them that week. That's not my scenario as I did not play Parker this week.

I agree with you then. This was definitely a bush league by the commish given the obvious issues with the unpredictable changes in injury status. Your commish needs to establish a definite set of rules here that doesn't require you to be in front of a computer on Sunday checking these injury statuses.

 

[BigDave]

It only causes a violation if a healthy player is "stashed " on IR. If Parker was healthy and I had him there, yes that's an issue. Sometimes an injured player is on IR by CBS Sportline and comes off their injury report before a game. Then the owner needs to move that player to a bench position and drop someone else. However, if you're not on the site, then the commish should give you a warning. In my case, Parker is listed right now as injured.

Your league needs to tighten it's IR rules. My league only allows players to be put on IR if they are listed as DOUBTFUL or OUT on the injury report (or there is a credible media source listing a player as OUT). But the catch is that once you place a player on IR, the player has to be on IR for a minimum of 3 weeks (thus preventing people from abusing the IR system and forcing them to only use it for an extra roster spot in the case of a significant/legitimate injury situation).

I agree. However, that's the way CBS Sportsline allows it. If the player is listed by them as injured, owners have been putting them on the IR. Some owners have a player on the IR and then if the player is upgraded or GTD, they've played them that week. That's not my scenario as I did not play Parker this week.

I agree with you then. This was definitely a bush league by the commish given the obvious issues with the unpredictable changes in injury status. Your commish needs to establish a definite set of rules here that doesn't require you to be in front of a computer on Sunday checking these injury statuses.

Exactly my point. Commish needed to state 3 weeks ago when this first occured, specifically something to the effect:If a player is on IR and you take him off IR and use him in a game, he becomes an active player on your roster. You can't have him go back on IR even if he's CBS Sportsline declared injured, unless he misses another game due to injury. There were no rules against what was done and he decided to drop my player = BUSH LEAGUE MOVE

 

[Mooks77]

Tell your commish that it's his terrible league management that caused the issue. If he wants to fix the issue he can fix it before next season. Removing the player from your team is ridiculous.

 

[BigDave]

Ok, here's how this turned out.

Commish ruled that his intention was to prevent an injured player from being carried on your IR even though it's highly likely he'll play because he played in the prior week.

I disagreed with his interpretation and lack of specifics when made, in what could be done/not done.

However, I decided to stop the childish crap of accusing emails and sit Parker for the rest of the year.

Turns out the jackass who reported it when I played against him is the biggest violator of this. I researched his activity and he violated it 6 times before the commish ruled and once after the commish ruled. Freakin ####ie acts like he's an angel and did it for the benefit of the league, when he's really a sleezeball.

Here's hoping he gets knocked out this week while I'm on a bye.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

I do not believe in having IR spots in FF. Hold onto the guy or cut him. What medical professional from CBS decides who can be put on IR and who cannot? Too many horror stories just like yours.

 

[belljr]

You can turn IR off on CBS. I got rid of it a long time ago because of issue like this. We just added 2 roster spots instead.

 

[streamkeeper]

I am a commish for a CBS leauge. We are loose with rosters. We can carry anyone on IR, if they have been marked by CBS with an injury cross. In comparison to other FFB leagues, CBS updates injures very quickly. I think this is good, but...... it does often times create situations were rosters are not always up to date. My league does not look at their rosters every night. We ask people to self police. If there were a problem I would directly contact the coach prior to dropping players. I don't think the Commish should not touch your roster w/o notifying your first.

Furthermore, you have the same problem a lot of people have.....you might be playing with the wrong group of people.