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In my 12 team league I was offered a silly trade, it was offered to me by my co commish which makes it even worst. He offered me Allen Robinson for Michael Floyd straight up. The competitor in me almost broke my neck to accept it but being commish I knew I could not let him make this deal. It would start a firestorm in my league. I told him I'm not accepting this deal and you shouldn't be just giving a top 10 player away for nothing. 

Was I being to nice turning this deal down?

 
hotboyz said:
In my 12 team league I was offered a silly trade, it was offered to me by my co commish which makes it even worst. He offered me Allen Robinson for Michael Floyd straight up. The competitor in me almost broke my neck to accept it but being commish I knew I could not let him make this deal. It would start a firestorm in my league. I told him I'm not accepting this deal and you shouldn't be just giving a top 10 player away for nothing. 

Was I being to nice turning this deal down?
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I would have countered making it a 2 for 2 trade where you give a little bit of an upgrade somewhere to appear to balance the trade.

 
I  for one am glad you turned it down.

He just offered me Allen Robinson for John Brown.

I promptly accepted of course!!

 
10 Team $350 Buy-in PPR League and someone dropped AR15 before last week.

Never seen anything like it. I'm stacked at WR (carry 5 / Start 3: AJ, TY, Benjamin, Matthews, D Thomas) but dropped Deymarius for him and won with a $26 Bid (Of $150). Was torn and figured if I got outbid for him it wouldn't be the end of the world, but got him somehow. Crazy. 

 

 
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hotboyz said:
In my 12 team league I was offered a silly trade, it was offered to me by my co commish which makes it even worst. He offered me Allen Robinson for Michael Floyd straight up. The competitor in me almost broke my neck to accept it but being commish I knew I could not let him make this deal. It would start a firestorm in my league. I told him I'm not accepting this deal and you shouldn't be just giving a top 10 player away for nothing. 

Was I being to nice turning this deal down?
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It's a tough situation for sure.

What do you do know if he winds up trading Robinson for another mediocre WR like say Mohammad Sanu? Will you veto it?

 
Ok, so he thnks ARob isn't top-10 material.  Odd view, but to each his own.

But...he thinks Michael Floyd is?!???

 
hotboyz said:
No I won't 
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Well in that case you should have accepted it and if people complained, let them know that the offer was sent to you and the other guy can state why he wanted the deal. I do see how you may just be better off avoiding the headache though. Hopefully the other guy just holds onto Robinson now.

 
Tough Spot as a commish to be in.

I think you did the right thing because you stated that the trade would cause a firestorm. Maybe the best thing to do for you as commish/owner (always commish first) would be to offer another WR on your team that would cause less of a firestorm...Maclin Sanders Baldwin. You get an upgrade...he dumps that albatross AR15 and no one can say ####.

 
If you were worried about a backlash I would have told him I will do this deal but first send a message to the rest of the league stating you are close to trading Robinson and if anyone else would like to make an offer to respond.  Then if you trade nobody has a real reason to complain.

 
Warhogs said:
If you were worried about a backlash I would have told him I will do this deal but first send a message to the rest of the league stating you are close to trading Robinson and if anyone else would like to make an offer to respond.  Then if you trade nobody has a real reason to complain.
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That's just it he's turned down a lot better deals for Robinson he's been shopping him since Wk 2

 
hotboyz said:
I just offered him Forte for Allen Robinson he said throw Floyd in ?? damn he really wants floyd
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At this point, just take the Floyd/ARob deal and when the league erupts, link this thread.  You're covered, for having tried to save him from himself.

 
I would have accepted. He offered it to you. Stop protecting people from themselves. If he wants to waste his money let him. He obviously loves Floyd and wants him and values him high. Who are you to argue? The guy in my league values Gurley as are top5 rb. I obviously don't. If he trades him are way for a scrub I wouldn't be up in arms. 

Take the trade

 
I'm commish of my league but I'm also a manager in my league.  If someone offers me a fleece trade I accept it, no questions asked.  I'm in it to win it and being commish shouldn't adversely affect how you manage your team.  Look at it like this, if you weren't commish and co-commish and someone offered you that trade, would you take it?  Of course you would.

 
Since this guy is a co commish I am assuming this guy is not in his first year in the league. He is not a rookie. You don't need to protect anyone. Let owners run their own team.

 
The qualities that make a good commish do not always include "most savvy player in the league".

A deal like that is proposed to you, you accept it and let the chips fall where they may. That's real transparency if you ask me. If the questions come, he can answer them...

 
If anything I'd say it's unethical to try and give him more than what he wants for his player because you feel guilty in ripping him off

 
Tommy answered the post! 

Commish wants to send a silly offer?  No harm throwing a little something something into the deal..

Roll w/ the punches..

 
If there is truely no collusion (and you should know as you're involved in the trade) then there is no reason not to accept it.  Bad trades happen all the time, I just allowed 2 in my league.   Stupid is as stupid does.   

 
Explain to him that Floyd has the worst catch rate amongst WRs with 20+ targets so far this season and is essentially a dumpster fire right now.

ARob for Kenny Britt would make infinitely more sense than that trade, that's how bad it is.

 
Arodin said:
At this point, just take the Floyd/ARob deal and when the league erupts, link this thread.  You're covered, for having tried to save him from himself.
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That's why he started the thread in the first place.  BTW, no way are we getting the whole story.  It makes zero sense.

 
Nothing to see here. So the guy doesn't like Allen Robinson, big deal. There are so many good WR, and Robinson is just one of many. I laugh at those who think Robinson is some elite talent. He caught 80 balls last year on an awful team that threw a ton. He's a nice player, that's it. 

 
I would ask him his reasoning. If he can give you a reason that at least makes sense based on his assessment of the players involved, go ahead and take it. If you don't agree with his assessment of the players involved, well, that's the basis for fantasy football, right? If he's says well I don't like Robinson this year because I think Bortles has fallen off, that's at least a valid reason, even if you may not agree with his assessment.

 
A fool and his money are soon parted.  If you don't do it he'll give him away to another owner.  Accept the trade and deal with the (possible) comments from the league if/when they come.  Then just point to the other guy and say "he offered it, what would you all have done?".

 
Pwingles said:
You are being intentionally dull? Or you don't actually see the potential problem?
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I see a one sided trade but unless there is obvious collusion, no, I don't see the problem. 

I don't see being co-commissioners as evidence of collusion either. 

Every year someone brings up a bad trade and ever year it is the same two sides and I'm on the "just let people manage their teams" side 

 
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