Commish just noticed the Warner scoring change from last week... (1 Viewer)

[Abraham]

So, our commish just went in to adjust the scores (its a best ball league) for our championship wherein I beat the challenger by about 20 points. However, in doing so he noticed the change of the ANquan Boldin/Kurt Warner score from last week which created the following:

1. His team ended up beating the challenger (who had Warner) by 1 point last week instead of losing by 3, setting up a matchup in the championship with me...

2. He ends up beating me by 3 points in the Championship game (I had beaten the other owner by 20 points).

I know my own feelings on this, but I'm interested in the Pool's thinking...who wins the title? Does it matter that the mistake was noticed after week 16 was complete? (As a note, the commish's integrity is unimpeachable and he is a good friend).

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

He should have announced the change before doing it, first & foremost. If his lineup for this week is legit, he won the title.

Edit: Missed best ball part [so no lineup]. I'd just make sure he wasn't awarded twice by the stat correction.

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[Abraham]

He should have announced the change before doing it, first & foremost. If his lineup for this week is legit, he won the title..

Agree. Its best ball, so assuming the scoring is correct then he won the title. i'm mostly bummed that neither he nor the WArner owner caught it during the week, and I'm disappointed I spent the last two days following the wrong lineup for my opponent.

 

[Islander]

Depends on your league's rules. In our league, stat changes can affect the results but only up till the following Sunday 1pm. After that, the results are set in stone and nothing can possibly change them, including scoring errors. This avoids the situation you are describing where it turns out you did not even know who was playing in the title game, turning the league into a joke. We completely forbid retroactive changes of any kind.

 

[HeirCoryell]

I can see where the guy that got the "temporary" win might not say anything but, how did nobody else in the league not see this and mention it earlier? It was a pretty big topic of discussion for that week.

 

[SSOG]

I make a point of always adding a rule that says there are no retroactive scoring changes and all owners are responsible for verifying the results of their own games. That avoids all of this kind of messiness (you'll see a dozen threads like these in the last half of every season).

If your league doesn't have such a rule, then it's up to the commish's discretion. Some commishes put it to a league vote, some make a unilateral decision, but either way that's the reason why you have a commish in the first place. If you say his integrity is unimpeachable, then abide by his ruling... and make sure you learn your lesson and put a rule on the books addressing how you'll deal with this in the future.

 

[Titans_fan]

I make a point of always adding a rule that says there are no retroactive scoring changes and all owners are responsible for verifying the results of their own games. That avoids all of this kind of messiness (you'll see a dozen threads like these in the last half of every season).If your league doesn't have such a rule, then it's up to the commish's discretion. Some commishes put it to a league vote, some make a unilateral decision, but either way that's the reason why you have a commish in the first place. If you say his integrity is unimpeachable, then abide by his ruling... and make sure you learn your lesson and put a rule on the books addressing how you'll deal with this in the future.

I have a similar rule, but this is an interesting situation. Initially ruled a TD pass, each owner is correct in assuming the score is correct. Based on the league service used, this change was made anytime between Wednesday and Friday and was CORRECTLY changed to a lateral. As an owner, how am I to know the NFL officially changed a stat several days after the game is "final," especially the week of Christmas?While I agree most owners would be highly aware of this particular situation, I feel you have to retroactively change the scoring if the initial ruling is incorrect. It's similar to someone being wrongly convicted of a crime and new evidence is later discovered that clears that person. The ruling is immediately reversed and that person is restored to his/her previous state. (I know it's a bit of an odd analogy, but the point is the same. If it was wrong initially then corrected, the correction should be applied).

 

[Sabertooth]

So, our commish just went in to adjust the scores (its a best ball league) for our championship wherein I beat the challenger by about 20 points. However, in doing so he noticed the change of the ANquan Boldin/Kurt Warner score from last week which created the following:1. His team ended up beating the challenger (who had Warner) by 1 point last week instead of losing by 3, setting up a matchup in the championship with me...2. He ends up beating me by 3 points in the Championship game (I had beaten the other owner by 20 points).I know my own feelings on this, but I'm interested in the Pool's thinking...who wins the title? Does it matter that the mistake was noticed after week 16 was complete? (As a note, the commish's integrity is unimpeachable and he is a good friend).

He does. Stats are the foundation upon which FF is built.

 

[Steeler]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late.

There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

 

[crowe1130]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late. There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

Agree 100%. If it is going to be done, it HAS to be done before the following week's games. Otherwise, what's to stop someone from noticing a scoring change from back in week 3?

 

[Clayton Gray]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late. There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

Agree 100%. If it is going to be done, it HAS to be done before the following week's games. Otherwise, what's to stop someone from noticing a scoring change from back in week 3?

Once Week X starts, Week X-1 is final.

 

[FavreCo]

So, our commish just went in to adjust the scores (its a best ball league) for our championship wherein I beat the challenger by about 20 points. However, in doing so he noticed the change of the ANquan Boldin/Kurt Warner score from last week which created the following:1. His team ended up beating the challenger (who had Warner) by 1 point last week instead of losing by 3, setting up a matchup in the championship with me...2. He ends up beating me by 3 points in the Championship game (I had beaten the other owner by 20 points).I know my own feelings on this, but I'm interested in the Pool's thinking...who wins the title? Does it matter that the mistake was noticed after week 16 was complete? (As a note, the commish's integrity is unimpeachable and he is a good friend).

Well, it's good to hear that he woke from the coma he has been in since Wednesday of last week....and just in time to pull the trophy out of your hands.

 

[gianmarco]

That wasn't a Warner TD?

 

[Traders2001]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late. There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

Agree 100%. If it is going to be done, it HAS to be done before the following week's games. Otherwise, what's to stop someone from noticing a scoring change from back in week 3?

Once Week X starts, Week X-1 is final.

No doubt at all....He saw it too late , too bad for him..

 

[Pipes]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late. There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

Agree 100%. If it is going to be done, it HAS to be done before the following week's games. Otherwise, what's to stop someone from noticing a scoring change from back in week 3?

Once Week X starts, Week X-1 is final.

I agree with these.

 

[Abraham]

Most of the league (myself included) thinks that correcting the ruling is the way to go. So he wins the league and I don't. Its disappointing to lose the league but not nearly as disappointing as having spent the whole weekend watching the wrong matchup; I was ahead two points (against who I thought I was playing) after the Cowboys game Sunday night. He had no one left and I had Peterson. So I didn't even bother watching last night figuring it was over. Come to find out I was really down 21 in our system and Peterson scored 18. It would have been a heck of a lot of fun not only for me but for my real opponent to be watching the Minny game on pins and needles. In other words, I don't mind the result nearly as much as I mind not getting to that result the way a league is "supposed" to, with everyone enjoying the championship game.

ANyway, thanks for the input. I'm going to point the league to this thread to see some of the discussion on the topic.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Most of the league (myself included) thinks that correcting the ruling is the way to go. So he wins the league and I don't. Its disappointing to lose the league but not nearly as disappointing as having spent the whole weekend watching the wrong matchup; I was ahead two points (against who I thought I was playing) after the Cowboys game Sunday night. He had no one left and I had Peterson. So I didn't even bother watching last night figuring it was over. Come to find out I was really down 21 in our system and Peterson scored 18. It would have been a heck of a lot of fun not only for me but for my real opponent to be watching the Minny game on pins and needles. In other words, I don't mind the result nearly as much as I mind not getting to that result the way a league is "supposed" to, with everyone enjoying the championship game.ANyway, thanks for the input. I'm going to point the league to this thread to see some of the discussion on the topic.

Ok, in that case, I'd like to tell them the commish did what is called a waiver or default.Your league rules should have something that says an owner has a week to protest a scoring issue. But if the owner doesn't, it's waived, they lose it permanently. Like a play review in the NFL, you have to throw the red flag beforet he next play starts.I don't agree with the commish at all. He screwed up, not you. Who can say what lineup changes you or anyone else still in the playoffs would have made in the course of the following week. He screwed up and he should take the burden of it.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Bogus. I am all for stat changes, but that came way too late and especially as Commissioner he should acquiesce to the fact that he should have caught it sooner. You have a legitimate gripe and in no world should the games be changed after they've already been played.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

We haven't included late scoring changes in the many years of our league.

I am the Commish and have Warner and left the stats as they were.

But I also posted a message on our Message Board explaining our past practice and why I left the Warner TD. No one seemed to question this since it was fully explained.

 

[Abraham]

I think that if I weren't the affected party I would feel differently; I would probably be more of a "sorry, the change came too late" type if it were someone else. But since I'm the one affected I feel like, "geez, I didn't really win the title and I don't want it this way."

 

[ScottyFargo]

I think that if I weren't the affected party I would feel differently; I would probably be more of a "sorry, the change came too late" type if it were someone else. But since I'm the one affected I feel like, "geez, I didn't really win the title and I don't want it this way."

If you were outscored by the 3rd or 4th placing team championship week, would you feel like you weren't really the winner? The change was adjusted too late by normal standards. It's quite cheap that the commish is enforcing it when it benefits him directly because the change was overdue. This was a pretty big issue all week, there's no good reason that he shouldn't have caught it sooner. Doing it now and punishing you is wrong.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If there's no rule, i think it should be put up for league vote with neither you nor the commish voting.

 

[Abraham]

If there's no rule, i think it should be put up for league vote with neither you nor the commish voting.

That's sort of how its going. THe commish sent it out and I replied only to him. Everyone else has replied back in agreement that he should win. I'm fine with it.

 

[LurkMaster]

I firmly believe that once the next weeks games start, all stats are final for the previous weeks. ..especially ones that determine wins/losses. You've got to know who you are playing. It's what fantasy football is all about...rooting for your guys and rooting against your opponents. That's the fun. Your league has been robbed of a championship game this year if this new phantom game stands.

Also, the commish may have made different lineup decisions if he knew he was in the championship game to begin with. How was his championship game lineup decided? He could have possibly overthought the situation and started a different player who laid an egg.

Im not saying this is corrupt at all, but I dont think this change is a good decision at all.

 

[wadegarrett]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late. There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

Agree 100%. If it is going to be done, it HAS to be done before the following week's games. Otherwise, what's to stop someone from noticing a scoring change from back in week 3?

Once Week X starts, Week X-1 is final.

100% agree. We have a rule in our league that directly states this.

 

[Abraham]

I firmly believe that once the next weeks games start, all stats are final for the previous weeks. ..especially ones that determine wins/losses. You've got to know who you are playing. It's what fantasy football is all about...rooting for your guys and rooting against your opponents. That's the fun. Your league has been robbed of a championship game this year if this new phantom game stands.



Also, the commish may have made different lineup decisions if he knew he was in the championship game to begin with. How was his championship game lineup decided? He could have possibly overthought the situation and started a different player who laid an egg.

Im not saying this is corrupt at all, but I dont think this change is a good decision at all.

It's "Best Ball" so lineups don't matter.

 

[Team Legacy]

If there's no rule, i think it should be put up for league vote with neither you nor the commish voting.

That's sort of how its going. THe commish sent it out and I replied only to him. Everyone else has replied back in agreement that he should win. I'm fine with it.

I disagree. Take it to the FBG comissioner court. Isn't that still around? That way it's a completely unbiased and MOST IMPORTANTLY... AN INFORMED opinion. Sorry, but half the yo yos in fantasy leagues have no idea how to make a correct / fair ruling , residing under your current rule structure. IMO, if there are no rules for changing scores, than, point blank, NO SCORES GET CHANGED. Every league I've ever seen has a WINDOW of time that scoring changes are allowed. Once you hit kickoff of following week, it's too late.

 

[Chaka]

A good set of league rules should have a provision making all scores final at some point during the week (usually on Thursday night after the stat changes have been announced).

If your league has no such provision then...well it sucks for you.

 

[dagwood]

So, our commish just went in to adjust the scores (its a best ball league) for our championship wherein I beat the challenger by about 20 points. However, in doing so he noticed the change of the ANquan Boldin/Kurt Warner score from last week which created the following:1. His team ended up beating the challenger (who had Warner) by 1 point last week instead of losing by 3, setting up a matchup in the championship with me...2. He ends up beating me by 3 points in the Championship game (I had beaten the other owner by 20 points).I know my own feelings on this, but I'm interested in the Pool's thinking...who wins the title? Does it matter that the mistake was noticed after week 16 was complete? (As a note, the commish's integrity is unimpeachable and he is a good friend).

Give me a break....we were discussing this play the day it happened...so you had to live under a rock to think that you had actually won your semifinal....the NFL made it office a week ago as well.....You lost....get over it....

 

[MCguidance]

Do you want to win a title you don't deserve?

I am sure it's very annoying, and the commish went about it in the wrong way, but if everything checks out, it was the right move.

 

[ceo3west]

Our league has a hard rule of no stat changes after the Saturday following last week's games. I suggest you implement this for next year.

 

[Abraham]

So, our commish just went in to adjust the scores (its a best ball league) for our championship wherein I beat the challenger by about 20 points. However, in doing so he noticed the change of the ANquan Boldin/Kurt Warner score from last week which created the following:1. His team ended up beating the challenger (who had Warner) by 1 point last week instead of losing by 3, setting up a matchup in the championship with me...2. He ends up beating me by 3 points in the Championship game (I had beaten the other owner by 20 points).I know my own feelings on this, but I'm interested in the Pool's thinking...who wins the title? Does it matter that the mistake was noticed after week 16 was complete? (As a note, the commish's integrity is unimpeachable and he is a good friend).

Give me a break....we were discussing this play the day it happened...so you had to live under a rock to think that you had actually won your semifinal....the NFL made it office a week ago as well.....You lost....get over it....

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

 

[Abraham]

Do you want to win a title you don't deserve? I am sure it's very annoying, and the commish went about it in the wrong way, but if everything checks out, it was the right move.

Agreed, and I say as much later in the thread.

 

[wadegarrett]

So, our commish just went in to adjust the scores (its a best ball league) for our championship wherein I beat the challenger by about 20 points. However, in doing so he noticed the change of the ANquan Boldin/Kurt Warner score from last week which created the following:

1. His team ended up beating the challenger (who had Warner) by 1 point last week instead of losing by 3, setting up a matchup in the championship with me...

2. He ends up beating me by 3 points in the Championship game (I had beaten the other owner by 20 points).

I know my own feelings on this, but I'm interested in the Pool's thinking...who wins the title? Does it matter that the mistake was noticed after week 16 was complete? (As a note, the commish's integrity is unimpeachable and he is a good friend).

Give me a break....we were discussing this play the day it happened...so you had to live under a rock to think that you had actually won your semifinal....the NFL made it office a week ago as well.....You lost....get over it....

He did win the semifinal smart guy.

 

[TommyGilmore]

The Commish should at least wait until the scoring is made official this Wednesday. Although it would be hilarious if another scoring change ended up costing him 4 points, but he refused to give you the championship.

 

[dagwood]

Do you want to win a title you don't deserve? I am sure it's very annoying, and the commish went about it in the wrong way, but if everything checks out, it was the right move.

Agreed, and I say as much later in the thread.

If you agree that the Commish should win, then why are we discussing the point?Congratulate him and get ready for next year....

 

[MCguidance]

Do you want to win a title you don't deserve? I am sure it's very annoying, and the commish went about it in the wrong way, but if everything checks out, it was the right move.

Agreed, and I say as much later in the thread.

Yeah I didn't read that far, sorry.I imagine it sucks, though. Money league with friends? That would make it even worse. Either way, I feel for you.

 

[Abraham]

Do you want to win a title you don't deserve? I am sure it's very annoying, and the commish went about it in the wrong way, but if everything checks out, it was the right move.

Agreed, and I say as much later in the thread.

If you agree that the Commish should win, then why are we discussing the point?Congratulate him and get ready for next year....

We're discussing in "general". I didn't know what anyone else would do in their league and I was curious. I already made up my mind on the issue. Its a non-money league with guys I've known for 15 years and we use the league to stay in touch since we're spread all over the globe now.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Do you want to win a title you don't deserve? I am sure it's very annoying, and the commish went about it in the wrong way, but if everything checks out, it was the right move.

See, I don't get this point.If someone was kept out of the playoff game, then three different teams might have made moves that might have made a difference. There could have been adds/drops affected. The order of the waiver wire could have been affected. Any one of three teams (the team mistakenly out and the team mistakenly in and the opponent) might have had different lineups just depending on what the opponent was doing, what their chances were, and what was available.If it's just for fun, amongst friends, what the hell, I agree, I wouldn't make a stink out of it. But if it's a technical point I think the commish should just be out of luck.

 

[Crippler]

This comes down to one thing

Has the league changed all scoring changes during the year or just the Warner one. If all and he forgot, than okay. If just this week, than the predecent was set and he changed all games during the year or leave it as is. MFL has feature to do the changes automatically for you each week on Thursday morning

 

[CBower4545]

I didn't read any of the responses, but I think the change came too late. There should always be a deadline where scoring changes for FF game cannot be made after the deadline has passed. And the deadline should be sometime before the following week's games.

Agree 100%. If it is going to be done, it HAS to be done before the following week's games. Otherwise, what's to stop someone from noticing a scoring change from back in week 3?

Once Week X starts, Week X-1 is final.

100% agree. We have a rule in our league that directly states this.

I don't know about that. Some stat changes don't happen till Wednesday or Thursday afternoon with Thursday and Friday games that doesn't give much time to discover the correction and put forth the change. I agree that there needs to be a set time where game are official, just make it Saturday night or Sunday morning. But it needs to be clearly put into the bylaws.

 

[cdwood]

I think the key point here is when the league has a deadline for when scoring changes can no longer be implemented. In my league that plays on MyFantasyLeague, the deadline for scoring changes is Tuesday at 8pm. In a league I play on Facebook all scores are official on Wednesday at 1pm. If the league has no set deadline, then it has to set one up for the following season.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I know you vouch for the commish's integrity, but I wonder how eager he would have been to make the scoring change if it COST him the championship.

IMO, there should definitely be a window for challenging scores, that it's the responsibility of each owner to audit their own scores (not the commisioner's), and that the challenge window definitely shuts before the next round of games. Making a change on the Week 15 scores after Week 16 was played is unreasonable.

 

[JMJ]

Only skimmed so I apologize if this was already mentioned but:

The stat change was not officially announced (at least on my page - Yahoo) until Thursday of last week. In case everyone forgot .... Thursday was Christmas eve. Can you really kill the commish if he didn't look on the page Christmas eve/ Christmas day/ Christmas weekend? Especially if he thought he was eliminated already?

It was Christmas weekend and he noticed 3 days later. Yeah ... rob the guy of a championship he deserves for that!

 

[benm3218]

I never understand this complaint. YES, it sucks for you that you now reflect a loss and a loss of the title. BUT, you NEVER really won it. It was incorrect data and your players DID NOT out perform his. If he won then he won regardless of whether or not it was known the next day or 4 weeks later. It is very simple that a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Your team wasn't really better that week so why should he not adjust it?

 

[Steeler]

I never understand this complaint. YES, it sucks for you that you now reflect a loss and a loss of the title. BUT, you NEVER really won it. It was incorrect data and your players DID NOT out perform his. If he won then he won regardless of whether or not it was known the next day or 4 weeks later. It is very simple that a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Your team wasn't really better that week so why should he not adjust it?

How far back in the season do you go to change scores?

 

[benm3218]

I never understand this complaint. YES, it sucks for you that you now reflect a loss and a loss of the title. BUT, you NEVER really won it. It was incorrect data and your players DID NOT out perform his. If he won then he won regardless of whether or not it was known the next day or 4 weeks later. It is very simple that a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Your team wasn't really better that week so why should he not adjust it?

How far back in the season do you go to change scores?

A year or two ago in our league we went back 4 or 5 weeks to adjust a score change with Adrian Wilson and a tackle that lost me a game. Personally I just don't think it matters how far you go back or if the other person THOUGHT they won. You either really did win or you really did not win. No championship or game should be decided on a time rule, it should be decided on the actual facts or stats. If team "A" did not actually score enough to win then it is not a win. An error in a stat that appears to give a win to one team that is later corrected should be honored. This is not fun for the owner who thought he won, it actually really sucks bad. (I went through it.) But, the commish just explained it to me, "Look. you never really won. We all thought you did, but if the player didn't get the tackle then you didn't really win. Now that we know team "B" won, we can't just say you did. We have to go with the actual facts and stats." I was annoyed and pissed, but he was right. It would not have been fair of me to demand a fake win just because a 5 day time limit passed or something. I either won or I didn't. So, yes it sucks but just accept your loss if your team earned a loss.

 

[Steeler]

I never understand this complaint. YES, it sucks for you that you now reflect a loss and a loss of the title. BUT, you NEVER really won it. It was incorrect data and your players DID NOT out perform his. If he won then he won regardless of whether or not it was known the next day or 4 weeks later. It is very simple that a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Your team wasn't really better that week so why should he not adjust it?

How far back in the season do you go to change scores?

A year or two ago in our league we went back 4 or 5 weeks to adjust a score change with Adrian Wilson and a tackle that lost me a game. Personally I just don't think it matters how far you go back or if the other person THOUGHT they won. You either really did win or you really did not win. No championship or game should be decided on a time rule, it should be decided on the actual facts or stats. If team "A" did not actually score enough to win then it is not a win. An error in a stat that appears to give a win to one team that is later corrected should be honored. This is not fun for the owner who thought he won, it actually really sucks bad. (I went through it.) But, the commish just explained it to me, "Look. you never really won. We all thought you did, but if the player didn't get the tackle then you didn't really win. Now that we know team "B" won, we can't just say you did. We have to go with the actual facts and stats." I was annoyed and pissed, but he was right. It would not have been fair of me to demand a fake win just because a 5 day time limit passed or something. I either won or I didn't. So, yes it sucks but just accept your loss if your team earned a loss.

I think it just opens up the potential for a whole lot of problems if a team can "retroactively" make the playoffs based on a score change in week #3. Lets say Team Q and Team Z play each other in week #3. Team Q wins by 1 point. At the end of the year Team Q is the last playoff team and Team Z is the best team not to make the playoffs (based on the outcome of the week 3 game). Team Z doesn't bother submitting his lineup for the playoffs because he didn't make it and Team Q advances to the Fantasy Championship game... but wait! A score change from week 3 is found! Team Z never submitted any playoff lineups and Team Q shouldn't have even been in the playoffs... what do you do then?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!11111111one?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!questionmark?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?! This whole mess can (and should) be avoided with a deadline for scoring changes.

 

[benm3218]

I never understand this complaint. YES, it sucks for you that you now reflect a loss and a loss of the title. BUT, you NEVER really won it. It was incorrect data and your players DID NOT out perform his. If he won then he won regardless of whether or not it was known the next day or 4 weeks later. It is very simple that a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Your team wasn't really better that week so why should he not adjust it?

How far back in the season do you go to change scores?

A year or two ago in our league we went back 4 or 5 weeks to adjust a score change with Adrian Wilson and a tackle that lost me a game. Personally I just don't think it matters how far you go back or if the other person THOUGHT they won. You either really did win or you really did not win. No championship or game should be decided on a time rule, it should be decided on the actual facts or stats. If team "A" did not actually score enough to win then it is not a win. An error in a stat that appears to give a win to one team that is later corrected should be honored. This is not fun for the owner who thought he won, it actually really sucks bad. (I went through it.) But, the commish just explained it to me, "Look. you never really won. We all thought you did, but if the player didn't get the tackle then you didn't really win. Now that we know team "B" won, we can't just say you did. We have to go with the actual facts and stats." I was annoyed and pissed, but he was right. It would not have been fair of me to demand a fake win just because a 5 day time limit passed or something. I either won or I didn't. So, yes it sucks but just accept your loss if your team earned a loss.

I think it just opens up the potential for a whole lot of problems if a team can "retroactively" make the playoffs based on a score change in week #3. Lets say Team Q and Team Z play each other in week #3. Team Q wins by 1 point. At the end of the year Team Q is the last playoff team and Team Z is the best team not to make the playoffs (based on the outcome of the week 3 game). Team Z doesn't bother submitting his lineup for the playoffs because he didn't make it and Team Q advances to the Fantasy Championship game... but wait! A score change from week 3 is found! Team Z never submitted any playoff lineups and Team Q shouldn't have even been in the playoffs... what do you do then?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!11111111one?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!questionmark?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?! This whole mess can (and should) be avoided with a deadline for scoring changes.

Your scenario is preposterous and would never happen. Look at it from another standpoint. Lets say you bowled and were in the bowling tournament. The screen on the LCD goes out so although the machine is keeping track of your pins you have to manually write down scores and keep track with paper and pen. Your opponent wins by 7 and claims the title and purse money. 5 weeks later you get a call from the bowling alley who went back through the electronic records to add audit the scores. The person with the paper and pen forget to carry a 8 and you actually won. Fair and square YOU bowled a better game. It was human error and a mistake that let the other guy think he won. Wouldn't you think it perfectly acceptable to let everyone know that you actually won and to claim the prize money? You did win it after all. So, why does it matter if 7 days have gone by? If you did not win then you didn't win. Just quit complaining and get a better team next year. It is not your win. It belongs to the other guy. you just thought you had it. So sorry, you didn't. It is not your win.

 

[Sebowski]

I make a point of always adding a rule that says there are no retroactive scoring changes and all owners are responsible for verifying the results of their own games. That avoids all of this kind of messiness (you'll see a dozen threads like these in the last half of every season).



If your league doesn't have such a rule, then it's up to the commish's discretion. Some commishes put it to a league vote, some make a unilateral decision, but either way that's the reason why you have a commish in the first place. If you say his integrity is unimpeachable, then abide by his ruling... and make sure you learn your lesson and put a rule on the books addressing how you'll deal with this in the future.

I think the commish's team is rightfully the champion. He didn't lose last week and out scored you this week. The rest is just a computer error. If there was a rule in place that would be a different story.