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Commissioner/League ruling question (1 Viewer)

kegger

kegger

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If this happened in your league what you do/think. (there are no waivers in this league)

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Person A at 8:00am saw he had an RB on bye so dropped him an added one playing this week.

(and is not concerned with what he did, meaning he did what he did and is "fine" with it)

Person B at 3:45pm saw the player A dropped grabbed him and dropped another.

The player A dropped was Chris Johnson..

(this all happened today)

I'm curious if others would make a ruling on this?

 
Seems like an obvious mistake, and Person A didn't realize what he did. Or he has an IQ of 75. Might need more info.

The ruling would be easy if the Owner posted a message (preferably immediately) to the league board and sent an email to the Commish. He didn't.

It would certainly be an undeserved windfall to Player B, which would unfairly upset the balance of the league.

 
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'BobbyLayne said:
Seems like an obvious mistake, and Person A didn't realize what he did. Or he has an IQ of 75. Might need more info.The ruling would be easy if the Owner posted a message (preferably immediately) to the league board and sent an email to the Commish. He didn't.It would certainly be an undeserved windfall to Player B, which would unfairly upset the balance of the league.
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Agree with all of this, player A has been talked to an is not protesting what he did,Said he needed a guy that was playing this week so legally dropped the guy on the bye.
 
'kegger said:
'BobbyLayne said:
Seems like an obvious mistake, and Person A didn't realize what he did. Or he has an IQ of 75. Might need more info.The ruling would be easy if the Owner posted a message (preferably immediately) to the league board and sent an email to the Commish. He didn't.It would certainly be an undeserved windfall to Player B, which would unfairly upset the balance of the league.
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Agree with all of this, player A has been talked to an is not protesting what he did,Said he needed a guy that was playing this week so legally dropped the guy on the bye.
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:shrug: Then nothing to do except make sure you've collected all his dues, and send him an email in January telling him he's too stupid to play in your league next year.
 
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'Sienna2012 said:
Do nothing, why are you even questioning what to do??? Makes no sense.
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Because I was the commish last year, an now someone else is.So I was wondering others thoughts on this situation at hand.(pretty much why you ask questions, to get others thoughts)
 
'kegger said:
If this happened in your league what you do/think. (there are no waivers in this league)-----------------Person A at 8:00am saw he had an RB on bye so dropped him an added one playing this week.(and is not concerned with what he did, meaning he did what he did and is "fine" with it)Person B at 3:45pm saw the player A dropped grabbed him and dropped another.The player A dropped was Chris Johnson..(this all happened today)I'm curious if others would make a ruling on this?
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Person A at 8:00am saw he had an RB on bye so dropped him an added one playing this week.(and is not concerned with what he did, meaning he did what he did and is "fine" with it)This line tells me that player A does not care that he dumped Chris Johnson. if he's not complaining, the only real reason you have to act is if you feel this is an act of collusion.Now if Player A dropped him at 8 AM and player B picks him up at 8:01 AM I'd be concerned, but every team had a 7 hour window to decide to pick him up. In most leagues, that is plenty. I know in my league, if I had Chris Johnson and dropped him right now, I guarantee you he would be on another teams roster within 20 minutes. Your league may not be as quick on the draw, but a player of that calibre should be picked up within a couple hours easily.the fact he lasted 7 hours leads me to believe this cannot possibly be collusion.As such, I'd suggest you do nothing.
 
In my league he would drop to waivers and couldn't be picked up within 8 hours. An epic ####storm would ensue...

 
If A is saying he did it on purpose, and if your league doesn't hold players on waivers, what's the issue exactly? If you're not using an "undroppables" list, what do you expect to happen?

 
'Saint said:
'shadyridr said:
'kegger said:
'shadyridr said:
wtf did it take almost 8 hours for someone to pick him up?
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Good question, I was pretty shocked as well, people are usually in thereevery day quite a bit, just happened to be a day many were busy with other.
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since everyone had 8 friggin hours to pick him up i woudldnt do anything.
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Agree with this
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Yup. 8 hrs is 7hrs and 59 minutes too long for one of my leagues to snatch a CJ up. Not being a #### but I think most leagues would be like that. There's always at least 1 or 2 guys that look at work.
 
Allowing Owners to acquire Players who have been dropped in the same week is just asking for trouble, IMHO. Once a Player is dropped, I prefer that he not be avaiable for pickup until the following week.

To each, his own, though...

 
'Sienna2012 said:
Do nothing, why are you even questioning what to do??? Makes no sense.
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I was you years ago. It was 02 and I was in a league where in week 4 a guy traded Kurt Warner (5th overall pick) for Amani Toomer (late pick). Go back look at their 2002 stats and you'll see who get the best of that deal. At the time I was livid. I thought I knew the future and figured the guy giving up Warner should be stopped for his own good.I'm not comparing the situations so much as saying no matter how you feel about any move, you gotta let it go and allow each owner to manage their teams unless it's collusion. No one knows what's gonna happen. Maybe having a starter this week at RB gets this guy in the playoffs and he wins. Maybe without CJ he wins a game he wouldn't have. It's tough, but don't interfere if the rules were followed.ETA - Agree with the quoted post; rant aimed at OP.
 
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'LarryAllen said:
'Sienna2012 said:
Do nothing, why are you even questioning what to do??? Makes no sense.
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I was you years ago. It was 02 and I was in a league where in week 4 a guy traded Kurt Warner (5th overall pick) for Amani Toomer (late pick). Go back look at their 2002 stats and you'll see who get the best of that deal. At the time I was livid. I thought I knew the future and figured the guy giving up Warner should be stopped for his own good.I'm not comparing the situations so much as saying no matter how you feel about any move, you gotta let it go and allow each owner to manage their teams unless it's collusion. No one knows what's gonna happen. Maybe having a starter this week at RB gets this guy in the playoffs and he wins. Maybe without CJ he wins a game he wouldn't have. It's tough, but don't interfere if the rules were followed.ETA - Agree with the quoted post; rant aimed at OP.
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Cool story gramps...J/K, I'm 45. I couldn't resist...
 
'nittanylion said:
Allowing Owners to acquire Players who have been dropped in the same week is just asking for trouble, IMHO. Once a Player is dropped, I prefer that he not be avaiable for pickup until the following week.To each, his own, though...
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Seems unreasonable. Two day waivers should suffice. Gives people another chance to place a claim and risk either their Waiver order or dollars to pick up the guy again.
 
'Insein said:
'Saint said:
'shadyridr said:
'kegger said:
'shadyridr said:
wtf did it take almost 8 hours for someone to pick him up?
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Good question, I was pretty shocked as well, people are usually in thereevery day quite a bit, just happened to be a day many were busy with other.
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since everyone had 8 friggin hours to pick him up i woudldnt do anything.
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Agree with this
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Yup. 8 hrs is 7hrs and 59 minutes too long for one of my leagues to snatch a CJ up. Not being a #### but I think most leagues would be like that. There's always at least 1 or 2 guys that look at work.
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Yep this league to, it just happened to be a day people were busy, even myself.Player pool opens at 8:00pm Tuesday, most of the action happens Tuesday night anWednesday as well, by the time Thursday rolls around if you haven't made any/yourmoves for the week up there is not much left, so in reality there really is not much inthe way of urgency to get into the site Thursday morning and through there afternoon.I'm usually in there by noon everyday, but Thursday I had work away from the computertill 3:45 PM, so yah people do get busy, and there can be days in Leagues where a largeamount of there participants can not get in there on a day that rarely has much relevance.So yah most times in most leagues a guy like that will not be/hang out there very long at all.(but there are times in any league during a season that has a time span of people being busy)------------Still no ruling yet on what or if anything will be done here..(It may go to a vote)
 
You have to let it stand, but only because there is nothing in place to prevent it and the guy didnt send an email directly after the drop saying it was a mistake.

This is the perfect reason why you have a blind bid process on waivers however. I cant even imagine being in a league where a Chris Johnson is dropped while I'm at work and I miss an opportunity to snatch him up simply because I didnt happen to check waivers on a Thursday afternoon after waivers had already cleared for the week (before Thursday game). I guess it all depends on the seriousness of your league, but unless this is a pretty big money, everyone is seriously into FF kinda league, it's unreasonable and kind of cheesy that random dude checking waivers before the Thursday game gets to nab CJ simply because he happened to come across him on waivers.

Since the guy that dropped him stated he did it knowingly, its not one of those leagues.

 
Unless the person who actually GOT Chris Johnson agrees that it's unfair and thinks the original owner should take him back and drop someone else, I don't think you can do anything THIS season.

But for next season...

1) I wouldn't invite the guy back who drops #1 RBs... or if its just a friendly league and you really want him back, make everyone drafted in the first ~2-4 rounds undroppable unless they're hurt.

2) I would have dropped players always be on waivers for at least 24h

But, it doesn't look like cheating... live and learn to make better processes later.

 
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