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[Kai's Hero]

I commission a 8- team "keeper" league where each owner can retain 1 player from his team from the previous year. This player can only be "kept" for 1 season and then he goes back into the player pool the next season. Keep in mind that this is an auction league and the player you designate as your "keeper" will cost you 50% of what you paid for him the previous year.

Example- We have a $300.00 cap and I paid $82.00 for Sean Alexander last year. If I designate him as my keeper then I will have to pay $41.00 for him this year leaving me with $259.00 worth of cap space as the draft starts.

Here's my dilemma ..... we have 2 new owners next year, therefore they will not have any players to hold over from the previous season. What is the best way to handle this? Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before? Do the existing owners designate who the top 2 players should be and assess their $ values and the new owners pick the player they want using a lottery system? I'm sure some of you have faced this before. I'd appreciate your advice .......

 

[gman8343]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

I agree. Seeing that this is not a large keeper league, in that you retain many players at no cost, then this is the best plan.

I am assuming that since the player's salary is knocked off by 50% that you only keep them for one year, and if thats the case, then welcome the new league members into the league by allowing them to pick all the cast offs available.

 

[BassNBrew]

Make it like the NFL...let each existing owner designate their worst keepers and make the new guys eat the salaries. Tony Boseli anyone???

 

[ratbast]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

I agree. Seeing that this is not a large keeper league, in that you retain many players at no cost, then this is the best plan.

I am assuming that since the player's salary is knocked off by 50% that you only keep them for one year, and if thats the case, then welcome the new league members into the league by allowing them to pick all the cast offs available.

Wouldnt it make sense to have an expansion draft for their keeper. Have the other 8 guys hold a total of 3-4 and make the expansion teams pick from the rest. Then auction as usual.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

I agree. Seeing that this is not a large keeper league, in that you retain many players at no cost, then this is the best plan.

I am assuming that since the player's salary is knocked off by 50% that you only keep them for one year, and if thats the case, then welcome the new league members into the league by allowing them to pick all the cast offs available.

Wouldnt it make sense to have an expansion draft for their keeper. Have the other 8 guys hold a total of 3-4 and make the expansion teams pick from the rest. Then auction as usual.

Well that is exactly what it is....since they only have one keeper, then the rest are eligible to pick up.

 

[ravnzfan]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

so I take it you're expanding the league with this?if so,

the new teams shouldn't be at the disadvantage of existing teams holding back 4 players each....the idea is everyone gets to declace a keeper @1/2 last years price...once all the existing teams declare, draw straws for the 2 new teams to select from the available player pool @ 1/2 last years salary for that player, then have your auction

 

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Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

so I take it you're expanding the league with this?if so,

the new teams shouldn't be at the disadvantage of existing teams holding back 4 players each....the idea is everyone gets to declace a keeper @1/2 last years price...once all the existing teams declare, draw straws for the 2 new teams to select from the available player pool @ 1/2 last years salary for that player, then have your auction

Agreed...There's another thread around here regarding expansion (non auction) that you may also want to search for...several of us posted about our league's expansion rules there...

 

[GregR_2]

Agree with others who said let the existing teams declare their 1 keeper and then let the new owners pick from all players who are left.

An additional option I'll throw out there. If you think that leaves the new teams with too big of a disadvantage, you could let the 2 new owners keep they guy they pick at 45% or 40% of his salary instead of the full 50%.

Since you only have 8 teams keeping 1 player each though, I don't know that you need to go that far. But it is an option if there are a lot of complaints that it is short-changing the new guys too much.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

This expansion is quite simple, because there are only 8 players being kept and you can only keep a player for one year, so its as close as you can get to a redraft.

 

[Duckboy]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

Hi Mike Being one of the other 7 owners in the league, I would concur that this is the way I would go. Given the rosters, there should be some pretty decent players available.

As an aside, there were some injured/suspended players dropped during the year (CPep, McNabb, Owens, LJordan) that were picked up for the $2 waiver fee, some of which will likely be kept for the $1 over some better players. I don't know off hand if there are others of similar numbers out there on the wire (McAllister as an example).

My view would be that the new owners would be required to pick a keeper from the final season rosters after the current owners declare their keeper player; this gives them options for players but does not give them keeper options that current teams do not have (waiver freeze in offseason). What are the borad's thoughts on this restriction?

 

[Crazy8s]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

That's probably what I'd do.

 

[Z-Dog]

How about this: tke the average of the old owners' cap savings on their keepers, and then add that number of dollars to the first-year cap of the expansion teams.

In other words, if the average cap savings that other teams are getting from thier 50% savings works out to $20, give the expansion teams another $20 to spend in the auction this year.

 

[mike11162]

So it's an 8 team league expanding to 10? And you have each existing owner keeping one player. Well, why the need to do anything? The new owners have the advantage of having more money to spend, so they're not at a severe disadvantage having no one to keep. I suppose maybe you can give them an extra $20-$25 to spend in the auction as compensation for not having a keeper, but I don't think you need to go through any elaborate process to give them players to choose from to keep.

 

[BigBetz]

I'll throw another option out there. What if the new owners take over the team the previous owners had. They can keep one player from that team. It's similar to what an owner would do in the NFL. If you are a new owner, you inherit the old team, not an entire new one. Just a thought!! Good luck!

 

[Kai's Hero]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

Hi Mike Being one of the other 7 owners in the league, I would concur that this is the way I would go. Given the rosters, there should be some pretty decent players available.

As an aside, there were some injured/suspended players dropped during the year (CPep, McNabb, Owens, LJordan) that were picked up for the $2 waiver fee, some of which will likely be kept for the $1 over some better players. I don't know off hand if there are others of similar numbers out there on the wire (McAllister as an example).

My view would be that the new owners would be required to pick a keeper from the final season rosters after the current owners declare their keeper player; this gives them options for players but does not give them keeper options that current teams do not have (waiver freeze in offseason). What are the borad's thoughts on this restriction?

Chris-I think the way we are going to do this is to have all existing owners declare who their keeper is on August 15th. I will then forward a listing of available players and their salary value from the draft the previous year. I do not think I am going to let them pick a player that was dropped and then picked up at the end of the year for $2.00. I think I am going to use their salary from when they were drafted only. Your thoughts .....

Also, if your keeper gets seriously injured between August 15th and September 5th you will be able to drop that player as your keeper and pick another player that is available as your keeper. Thoughts .......

 

[Kai's Hero]

I'll throw another option out there. What if the new owners take over the team the previous owners had. They can keep one player from that team. It's similar to what an owner would do in the NFL. If you are a new owner, you inherit the old team, not an entire new one. Just a thought!! Good luck!

Nice thought, but we have two new franchises that will be playing.

 

[Kai's Hero]

How about this: tke the average of the old owners' cap savings on their keepers, and then add that number of dollars to the first-year cap of the expansion teams.

In other words, if the average cap savings that other teams are getting from thier 50% savings works out to $20, give the expansion teams another $20 to spend in the auction this year.

Good idea. Thanks.

 

[ratbast]

The reason you have an "expansion draft" is the case where perhaps your Champ is dropping SA becasue he has LT2 also. Thats why you dont want them picking from the pool. The new owners would be at quite an advantage.

So before the expansion draft, have the old owners declare some of their roster off limits. This gives the lesser teams from last year a chance. It is only one guy but I wouldn't want to keep any guys if i have the chance to pick from the pool (minus 8). The 8 guys who are kept are most likely not the top 8 keepers and contracts in your league.

good luck

 

[ratbast]

Do they get to select any player that is still available and pay half the salary that was paid for that player the year before?

Hi Mike Being one of the other 7 owners in the league, I would concur that this is the way I would go. Given the rosters, there should be some pretty decent players available.

As an aside, there were some injured/suspended players dropped during the year (CPep, McNabb, Owens, LJordan) that were picked up for the $2 waiver fee, some of which will likely be kept for the $1 over some better players. I don't know off hand if there are others of similar numbers out there on the wire (McAllister as an example).

My view would be that the new owners would be required to pick a keeper from the final season rosters after the current owners declare their keeper player; this gives them options for players but does not give them keeper options that current teams do not have (waiver freeze in offseason). What are the borad's thoughts on this restriction?

Chris-I think the way we are going to do this is to have all existing owners declare who their keeper is on August 15th. I will then forward a listing of available players and their salary value from the draft the previous year. I do not think I am going to let them pick a player that was dropped and then picked up at the end of the year for $2.00. I think I am going to use their salary from when they were drafted only. Your thoughts .....

Also, if your keeper gets seriously injured between August 15th and September 5th you will be able to drop that player as your keeper and pick another player that is available as your keeper. Thoughts .......

These sound like good strategies.