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[SeniorVBDStudent]

John Clayton reporting Patriots to put Bruschi on IR (yet to be confirmed by Pats).

Brady, Thomas, Harrison, Bruschi.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Whoa - easy there. Isn't it a little early for congratulations?

At 8-5 due to an extremely easy schedule the Dolphin season will come down to Week 17.

MIA @ NYJ - I can't even remember the last time the Dolphins won at Giant stadium.

 

[tones]

WHOA - When was the last time the JETS won a big game in Giants Stadium? NO, NO, NO in December not September...

All of these teams have flaws - The Jets, and NE can't stop the pass, and Miami needs to find a way to score more points on offense. The Jets look the best on paper, Miami has the easiest schedule, but I'll take NE with a coach who has won BIG games before with less talent then he has now.

 

[Workhorse]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

 

[Avery]

Strahan, Osi, Plaxico...

Nut up!

Fans can be incredibly myopic and believe that only their team has to overcome injuries. In a way this thread reminds me of a Redsox playoff game I was at this year and "the nation" started filing out in the 6th inning.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

 

[Native]

Actually, the Pats dont even control their own destiny in the AFC East. The Jets and the Dolphins both do.

 

[BettorFan]

The AFC showdown will be Jets vs. Fins. Forget the Pats - their season is a wrap.

 

[PatsWillWin]

The Dolphins could easily win the division, but the loss of Bruschi is relatively minor compared to other losses they've had. He's a shadow of his former self, their 4th best LB when everyone is healthy.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

WHOA - When was the last time the JETS won a big game in Giants Stadium? NO, NO, NO in December not September...All of these teams have flaws - The Jets, and NE can't stop the pass, and Miami needs to find a way to score more points on offense. The Jets look the best on paper, Miami has the easiest schedule, but I'll take NE with a coach who has won BIG games before with less talent then he has now.

Ok two seasons ago some wins were on the road (and technically you said at Giant Stdium), but in years where the Jets were a playoff team (which has basically been every other year for the last several years), they have manageed to win some big home December games. We'll see what happens this year (another potential playoff year in the pattern). If that last game is meaningful I'm not so sure I would count the Jets out of it, especially with how they have dominated the Dolphins and with Chad throwing in heavy winds and cold.December 17, 2006 W @ Minnesota Vikings December 25, 2006 W @ Miami Dolphins December 31, 2006 W Oakland RaidersDecember 19, 2004 W Seattle SeahawksDecember 29, 2002 W Green Bay Packers

 

[PatsWillWin]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Strahan, Osi, Plaxico...

Nut up!

Fans can be incredibly myopic and believe that only their team has to overcome injuries. In a way this thread reminds me of a Redsox playoff game I was at this year and "the nation" started filing out in the 6th inning.

Not buying into the "Bruschi is hurt = Dolphins win the Division" here, but don't compare the "injuries" the Giants have had to the Patriots. First of all, two of the three players you mentioned aren't even injuries. Strahan retired before the season began, and Plaxico has always been a ticking timebomb, so lamenting that a punk got suspended for being a punk is stupid. Giants made a deal with the Devil, just like the Patriots did with Moss, and neither should complain about getting burned if/when that happens.Patriots won't win the Division and make the playoffs imo, but not because of Bruschi going on the IR - honestly, not even because they lost Brady...they won't make the playoffs because their defense is a joke.

 

[Workhorse]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

Exactly. Past contributions and coming back from a stroke have nothing to do with the fact that he's a pretty bad football player right now. He's one of my favorite football players of all time but he's been a very weak link in the Patriots defense all season.

 

[Reaper]

As always - ONE WEEK AT A TIME....

Either way, It'll be an exciting finish...

 

[Avery]

Strahan, Osi, Plaxico...

Nut up!

Fans can be incredibly myopic and believe that only their team has to overcome injuries. In a way this thread reminds me of a Redsox playoff game I was at this year and "the nation" started filing out in the 6th inning.

Not buying into the "Bruschi is hurt = Dolphins win the Division" here, but don't compare the "injuries" the Giants have had to the Patriots. First of all, two of the three players you mentioned aren't even injuries. Strahan retired before the season began, and Plaxico has always been a ticking timebomb, so lamenting that a punk got suspended for being a punk is stupid. Giants made a deal with the Devil, just like the Patriots did with Moss, and neither should complain about getting burned if/when that happens.Patriots won't win the Division and make the playoffs imo, but not because of Bruschi going on the IR - honestly, not even because they lost Brady...they won't make the playoffs because their defense is a joke.

I don't think it makes a difference to the opposing defenses why a player isn't playing. Whether Plaxico is out for being a moron or pulling his hammy doesn't make a difference.Anyway, you're missing my point if you just want to analyze the Giants player losses for this year vs the Pats player losses. I'm not complaining that he's out and using it as an excuse and that's my point.

Maybe "Marvel Smith, Greg Warren, Rashard Mendenhall, Kendall Simmons" would be a better example for you.

 

[Chachi]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

 

[Reaper]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

Exactly. Past contributions and coming back from a stroke have nothing to do with the fact that he's a pretty bad football player right now. He's one of my favorite football players of all time but he's been a very weak link in the Patriots defense all season.

EXACTLY.Besides... Statements like that are not anywhere near the reasons why everyone hates Pats fans.

Try again.

 

[Godsbrother]

John Clayton reporting Patriots to put Bruschi on IR (yet to be confirmed by Pats).Brady, Thomas, Harrison, Bruschi. :X

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.

 

[jcuadrado]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

with Hill at QB...and Gore gimpy who may not even play. I'll take the Phins this week.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

As always - ONE WEEK AT A TIME....Either way, It'll be an exciting finish...

:X

 

[Shrek]

The reason I love these threads is because they never backfire.

STONE COLD LOCK

 

[phthalatemagic]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

Exactly. Past contributions and coming back from a stroke have nothing to do with the fact that he's a pretty bad football player right now. He's one of my favorite football players of all time but he's been a very weak link in the Patriots defense all season.

More statements showing why Patriot fans here are terrible

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

Exactly. Past contributions and coming back from a stroke have nothing to do with the fact that he's a pretty bad football player right now. He's one of my favorite football players of all time but he's been a very weak link in the Patriots defense all season.

More statements showing why Patriot fans here are terrible

The reason why this schtick is so good is because it doesn't matter what a Pats fan says; you can always respond with "more statements showing why blah, blah, blah...".You continue to out-do yourself with your unhealthy anti-Patriot obsession; good job!

 

[Gatorman]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

with Hill at QB...and Gore gimpy who may not even play. I'll take the Phins this week.

Not so fast. Gore played for Gables and the U. If he can suit up this weekend, he will play. I do not doubt that.As it is, Miami needs to keep playing at the level they have been. Nothing is a given in this division, and The Devil may still have his deal for Bellichek's soul not fully paid for. You never know.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I didnt even know Teddy was playing this year seemed to be watching alot of football

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

with Hill at QB...and Gore gimpy who may not even play. I'll take the Phins this week.

Hill has been pretty good at QB this year IMO

 

[greenline]

Here are the reasons why:

Bad loss to Indy -- Jabar Gaffney dropped a TD.

Bad loss to NYJ -- Terrible first half, Terrible 3rd down defense

Adalius Thomas -- Hurt

Tom Brady -- Hurt

Rodney Harrison -- Hurt

Ty Warren -- hurt

Ellis Hobbs -- Stinks

I don't think Bruschi is make or break. Really losing both of those games screwed this all up.

Regardless any other franchise would be 3-10 right now so it's still been a fun year.

 

[Man In The Box]

Maybe if Mike Vrabel goes on IR this week, we can get a bye also.

 

[Chachi]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

with Hill at QB...and Gore gimpy who may not even play. I'll take the Phins this week.

Hill has been pretty good at QB this year IMO

49ers are 3-3 with Singletary. Miami isn't a top team, 49ers will roll them.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

Exactly. Past contributions and coming back from a stroke have nothing to do with the fact that he's a pretty bad football player right now. He's one of my favorite football players of all time but he's been a very weak link in the Patriots defense all season.

More statements showing why Patriot fans here are terrible

The reason why this schtick is so good is because it doesn't matter what a Pats fan says; you can always respond with "more statements showing why blah, blah, blah...".You continue to out-do yourself with your unhealthy anti-Patriot obsession; good job!

The real brilliant stuff was when he quoted every post by a Patriot fan and wrote "toxic waste." Unfortunately, JB had to #####-slap him for that, and that is the reason we have this even more creative/compelling shtick today.

 

[munchkin]

Eli Manning means nothing to the Giants. You can replace your starting QB with any old Carr and not miss a beat. All injuries are the same. It's well documented that Tom Brady is one of the most over-rated QB's in NFL history. There would be no crying here if the Big Blue was sporting David Carr at QB and was struggling to win a game all while their team was being decimated with injuries.

That being said the Pats have serious problems in their secondary and their LB corps is a mess. I follow the team pretty closely and I haven't seen anything out of the Patriots camp that resembles whining. You play with who you got; nothing more, nothing less. No-one felt too bad for the Bengals last year when they were hiring dish washers to play LB for them.

The Patriots still have games against Miami and Buffalo in their division. They better come ready to play.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Here's a homerific article from some guy at the Worcester Telegram which, if you can get past his strange desire for people to like the Pats again, does a fairly good job of highlighting the "glass is half full" side of the team's performance this year...Dedicated to our good friend phthalatemagic....

Once scorned, Pats deserve respectRich Garven A year ago, the Patriots were the most despised team in football. Perhaps in all of professional sports. The Belichickans were branded as cheaters and accused of running up the score. It was a team at the head of the class, but one many felt displayed no class. Things got so bad the Giants —the Giants! —actually came off as huggable underdogs in the Super Bowl. And when the New Yorkers won, the celebration had more to do with the Patriots losing. That public scorn carried over to this season, but it’s time for the NFL nation to reassess its position on the Patriots in the wake of their inspirational, 24-21 victory over the Seahawks on Sunday. “It was rewarding to see our players fight through some of the adversity and situations that came up during the game and come out and make the plays at the end we needed to make to win,” coach Bill Belichick said. The Patriots fell behind early and were losing defensive players to injury at the same rate it rains here — which is about every minute. They started without Ty Warren and then saw Vince Wilfork, Tedy Bruschi and James Sanders call it a day before halftime. Rodney Harrison and Adalius Thomas were already on injured reserve and an ineffective Deltha O’Neal was on the bench, so you had a defense missing seven regulars. Nothing ordinary there. The season was hanging in the balance and the Seahawks were looking to make their season with a win over a brand-name opponent before a noisy home crowd. It didn’t look good and, fact is, the Patriots didn’t play great overall. But when it was all over they had won. They won a game they had to have. And they did it with a defense that had fewer name players than the ’72 Dolphins. Mike Wright, Gary Guyton and Antwain Spann had all gone undrafted, but stepped it up after being drafted into emergency duty. Le Kevin Smith was picked in the sixth round. Lewis Sanders was a castoff. It was like “Cheers” in a parallel universe — a place where nobody knows your name. No problem. “I’ve said for years that Bill is probably one of the best coaches in the league,” said linebacker Rosevelt Colvin, who was also unexpectedly pressed into service. “I’ve been able to experience a couple different systems and when you’re able to plug different guys in. I’ve been on teams where you’ve had injuries and there’s a decline, there’s a drop-off. “But to continue to go out and be successful in all phases — special teams, offense and defense — is definitely a tribute, not just to the players, but the coaches as they continue to draw up schemes and put players in positions to make plays.” There were a couple of familiar faces who suddenly found themselves placed in somewhat unfamiliar situations. Colvin had signed with the Patriots on Wednesday, meaning he practiced three times before departing for Seattle. Junior Seau came aboard Friday. He practiced once, then made the trip cross country for what was expected to be an afternoon spent on the sideline. That all changed early in the second quarter when Colvin and Seau were waved in They didn’t come out very often after that. It wasn’t what either player expected. Then again, having played previously for the Patriots they know to expect the unexpected. “I’ve been playing this game for like 19 years,” said Seau, who turns 40 in 41 days. “It shouldn’t be a big surprise. The guys in here did a heck of a job of protecting me and doing the things that we needed to do out there, and obviously we came out with a win.” Where this is all going nobody knows. The Patriots are 8-5 and in a three-way tie for first in the AFC East with three games to go. They didn’t get beat by the Seahawks, but they left Seattle beaten up. “I think it’s to the point right now where nobody is 100 percent,” said cornerback Ellis Hobbs, who is dealing with shoulder issues. “Not me, not any guy out there. And if you can play, we’re looking for you. We’re looking for you at every position. “You might see me at rush end one day, man. But you know, we’re going to keep chugging away. And if it takes a patchwork to get these victories, that’s what we’re going to do.” The playoffs remain a possibility because the Patriots won despite finding themselves in an impossible situation. For that they deserve the respect — grudging or otherwise — of fans throughout the NFL.

 

[Man In The Box]

The Patriots still have games against Miami and Buffalo in their division. They better come ready to play.

The Pats and Dolphins don't play again this year.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

yeah i guess patriots fans aren't arrogant anymore so we can

oh wait

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

LOL, really?All Patriot fans appreciate the huge contributions that Bruschi has made to this franchise, including coming back after having a stroke. That being said, he's in the twilight of his career. The fact that he had a stroke is not relevant to anything here.

 

[=Smackdown=]

The reason I love these threads is because they never backfire. STONE COLD LOCK

Your reverse jedi mind tricks will not work here.Looking ahead - I'd love for the Dophins to still have a chance in Week 17.Pennington in NY the last week of the season with the division up for grabs would be sick. The level of embarassment and pain Jet nation would feel with a loss to cast off Penny the last week of the season would be off the charts.

 

[-baller]

Strahan, Osi, Plaxico...

to the op ---- turn in your pats gear and pick up some phinswear.we don't need quitters.the team's the one working its ### off, getting smashed on the field every week, and they haven't quit.you've got the easy job, dude.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Here are the reasons why:

Bad loss to Indy -- Jabar Gaffney dropped a TD.

Bad loss to NYJ -- Terrible first half, Terrible 3rd down defense

Adalius Thomas -- Hurt

Tom Brady -- Hurt

Rodney Harrison -- Hurt

Ty Warren -- hurt

Ellis Hobbs -- Stinks

I don't think Bruschi is make or break. Really losing both of those games screwed this all up.

Regardless any other franchise would be 3-10 right now so it's still been a fun year.

I could say the same thing about the Vikings EJ Henderson -- Hurt

QB -- They all suck

Madieu Williams -- Hurt

Kenechi Udeze -- Leukemia

All CB's not named Winfield -- Stinks

Point being, all teams have injuries.

 

[iSnitch]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

 

[-baller]

Here are the reasons why:

Bad loss to Indy -- Jabar Gaffney dropped a TD.

Bad loss to NYJ -- Terrible first half, Terrible 3rd down defense

Adalius Thomas -- Hurt

Tom Brady -- Hurt

Rodney Harrison -- Hurt

Ty Warren -- hurt

Ellis Hobbs -- Stinks

I don't think Bruschi is make or break. Really losing both of those games screwed this all up.

Regardless any other franchise would be 3-10 right now so it's still been a fun year.

I could say the same thing about the Vikings EJ Henderson -- Hurt

QB -- They all suck

Madieu Williams -- Hurt

Kenechi Udeze -- Leukemia

All CB's not named Winfield -- Stinks

Point being, all teams have injuries.

half your team stinking is supposed to be an excuse for what --- stinking...?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Here are the reasons why:

Bad loss to Indy -- Jabar Gaffney dropped a TD.

Bad loss to NYJ -- Terrible first half, Terrible 3rd down defense

Adalius Thomas -- Hurt

Tom Brady -- Hurt

Rodney Harrison -- Hurt

Ty Warren -- hurt

Ellis Hobbs -- Stinks

I don't think Bruschi is make or break. Really losing both of those games screwed this all up.

Regardless any other franchise would be 3-10 right now so it's still been a fun year.

I could say the same thing about the Vikings EJ Henderson -- Hurt

QB -- They all suck

Madieu Williams -- Hurt

Kenechi Udeze -- Leukemia

All CB's not named Winfield -- Stinks

Point being, all teams have injuries.

 

[jcuadrado]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

with Hill at QB...and Gore gimpy who may not even play. I'll take the Phins this week.

Hill has been pretty good at QB this year IMO

49ers are 3-3 with Singletary. Miami isn't a top team, 49ers will roll them.

is Gore playing this week? If he doesn't the game plan will be pretty simple don't you think...? Stop the pass = Miami win.

 

[jcuadrado]

49ers will beat down the Dolphins this weekend.

with Hill at QB...and Gore gimpy who may not even play. I'll take the Phins this week.

Hill has been pretty good at QB this year IMO

49ers are 3-3 with Singletary. Miami isn't a top team, 49ers will roll them.

roll who?Miami may not be a top team....but they find ways to win. No doubt that they've overachieved this season...but I'll take that anyday. Last season was brutal.

 

[Borat]

As a Patriots fan, this is perhaps the most ridiculous thread I've ever read on this board regarding my team.

SeniorVBDStudent: Tie-breakers be damned; it's disgraceful that you'd give up on the team while we're still tied for first place in the division.

Avery: Injuries are a part of the game, and every team experiences them, but the losses of Osi and Plax aren't even in the same ballpark as the losses of Brady, Harrison, and Thomas, not to mention Maroney and Bruschi.

phthalatemagic: Another example of the typically horrible, misguided posting that I've come to expect out of you.

Godsbrother: I understand your comment regarding Harrison, but what do you have against Brady, Thomas, and Bruschi?

greenline: Every team in the league could put together a list of "what if" scenarios that would equate to a few more wins.

 

[Bri]

Have you watched Tedy Bruschi this season? Tedy's lucky that it's the IR and not the glue factory. "Early Bird Special" Seau is probably an upgrade at this point.

Pretty uncool. This guy had a stroke a few years ago. It's statements like these are why people hate Patriot fans

I'm pretty sure Bruschi is well versed on receiving praise and criticism by now. It's been a long while since his stroke to be giving him a mulligan for every bad play. Isn't that the nature of the beast in the NFL for all its players?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

As a Patriots fan, this is perhaps the most ridiculous thread I've ever read on this board regarding my team.

SeniorVBDStudent: Tie-breakers be damned; it's disgraceful that you'd give up on the team while we're still tied for first place in the division.

Avery: Injuries are a part of the game, and every team experiences them, but the losses of Osi and Plax aren't even in the same ballpark as the losses of Brady, Harrison, and Thomas, not to mention Maroney and Bruschi.

phthalatemagic: Another example of the typically horrible, misguided posting that I've come to expect out of you.

Godsbrother: I understand your comment regarding Harrison, but what do you have against Brady, Thomas, and Bruschi?

greenline: Every team in the league could put together a list of "what if" scenarios that would equate to a few more wins.

Rubbish. Everybody knows the Ravens will choke and the Pats will make the playoffs via the wildcard. Who cares if the fish win the division?Once in the playoffs, I fully expect that Pats to dominate, given the fact that we have the greatest coach of all time.

 

[Bri]

Avery: Injuries are a part of the game, and every team experiences them, but the losses of Osi and Plax aren't even in the same ballpark as the losses of Brady, Harrison, and Thomas, not to mention Maroney and Bruschi.

Plax and Osi are certainly even with some of them, maybe not Brady but....They went to the Supe riding a 4 DE system. They "only" have 2. Just because they have awesome depth at DE doesn't mean losing a pro bowler is no big deal. I feel like I'm one of Plax's biggest detractors. I'm still bitter about how he barely practiced last year and was miraculously cured at gametime every sunday. For me that was a new level of pamperring for the NFL players and I'm just not a fan of that. There's more to Plax but......you have to notice a big dropoff in the Gmen the last two weeks. That seems like a sizable loss right now. McKenzie got hurt against the Cowboys and Boothe, his backup, was a turnstile. I haven't done enough injury research yet to have OL thoughts, assuming McKenzie is out for a time-that's a big concern there.They were without Jacobs and he's been far more productive than Maroney.I agree with the original sentiment that everyone's got plenty of significant injuries(Titans are debatable but more or less) and that it's similar. I don't find one worse than the other. I'm thankful the Pats aren't the Seahawks without their starting QB.