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Consensus PPR Dynasty Rankings- WR5 (1 Viewer)

o do you rank as the dynasty WR5?

  • Mike Wallace

    Votes: 34 18.5%

  • Wes Welker

    Votes: 17 9.2%

  • Julio Jones

    Votes: 89 48.4%

  • Dez Bryant

    Votes: 22 12.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 22 12.0%
  • Total voters
    184
I'm still not sure why Dez is a mainstay in these polls. Give me Bowe, Jennings, Harvin, Vjax, Stevie Johnson, Andre, Britt and the others in the poll.

 
Now that he's reunited with Cutler, should Marshall be in the conversation? I'd say he's at least in the top 12

 
I am still big on 28 year old Marques Colston who is only 28 and has Brees as his QB. He is only one of 7 WR's to have 5 out of 6 seasons with 1000 yards. No Meachum there could mean increased numbers. He played very well down the stretch. But I know in the minority but than I trade back and get him later.

 
I know I'm going to catch a whole lot of flack over this....but we have the top 2 highest paid WRs already (in fact as #1 and #2 on the list). Where should be place #3?

Oh, the #3 highest paid WR is V Jax....

 
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.

No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.

 
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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In a ppr league I'm taking Welker over Dez. And AJ. Maybe Roddy (but probably not).
 
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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No way Dez is in my top 12 WRS in any format. Period.
 
'Multiple Scores said:
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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No way Dez is in my top 12 WRS in any format. Period.
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Completely agree. He still has a lot of potential, but he has yet to produce at the top tier level.
 
'Multiple Scores said:
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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No way Dez is in my top 12 WRS in any format. Period.
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That is why fantasy football is so great; the divergence of opinions and debate on players makes it so interesting. At the conclusion of the 2012 season, one of these guys will have been proven correct! :football:
 
'Ketamine Dreams said:
'Multiple Scores said:
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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No way Dez is in my top 12 WRS in any format. Period.
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Completely agree. He still has a lot of potential, but he has yet to produce at the top tier level.
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Wait, Dez got traded to Jacksonville? Even if you dont like Dez personally...you still have to love his situation.
 
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'Multiple Scores said:
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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No way Dez is in my top 12 WRS in any format. Period.
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amen.
 
'wiscstlatlmia said:
'Ketamine Dreams said:
'Multiple Scores said:
'Texasmouth said:
Dez Bryant is on here because it is a DYNASTY topic.No way you add old guys in there at this stage. #5 WR is basically a 1st-2nd round pick. No one is taking Colston, Welker, Roddy, etc ahead of Bryant in a dynasty league. I would agree, maybe in a redraft but no way in a dynasty.
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No way Dez is in my top 12 WRS in any format. Period.
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Completely agree. He still has a lot of potential, but he has yet to produce at the top tier level.
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Wait, Dez got traded to Jacksonville? Even if you dont like Dez personally...you still have to love his situation.
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Not sure what you're driving at. Yes, he's on a high octane offense. But sharing targets with another WR#1, and a TE that is a stud is not a perfect situation. He has potential, but he is limiting himself too with his bone-headedness, (work ethic, etc.)
 
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production.

Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.

Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.

 
Pretty sure the pick here is between Julio, Wallace(depending where he lands), and Harvin and Julio wins. Surprised of no mention of Percy Harvin in the poll since his # of receptions has grown by ~10 each year and finished 4th in receptions in 2011.

 
We don't even know what team Mike Wallace is playing for. How can he be so high? Dez is ok but has proven anything yet and could easily become the next Braylon Edwards. Roddy White deserves to be on this list as he has consistently been top 10 or top 5 WR for the past 5 years.

 
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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excellent post.
 
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I'd seriously like to know how long people have been playing in dynasty leagues that have julio jones and aj green in the top 5. that's just crazy. there are several KNOWN commodities that are young enough and should be here more readily. where is andre, greg, wes, roddy, vincent, marques.
 
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I dont have the numbers right in front of me but im willing to bet that Julio either outscored or came very close to outscoring any of those guys on a per game basis last year. Id say hes a little more than potential, he produced very well in his first year.
 
'fruity pebbles said:
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I dont have the numbers right in front of me but im willing to bet that Julio either outscored or came very close to outscoring any of those guys on a per game basis last year. Id say hes a little more than potential, he produced very well in his first year.
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You'd lose that bet. In my league on a ppg:Welker - 22Roddy - 18Dez - 14Julio - 15Garcon - 13Colson - 16Wallace - 16
 
'Dr. Awesome said:
'fruity pebbles said:
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I dont have the numbers right in front of me but im willing to bet that Julio either outscored or came very close to outscoring any of those guys on a per game basis last year. Id say hes a little more than potential, he produced very well in his first year.
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You'd lose that bet. In my league on a ppg:Welker - 22Roddy - 18Dez - 14Julio - 15Garcon - 13Colson - 16Wallace - 16
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He also played very sparingly in 3 games. Except for Welker, he was right on par with any of the others.
 
'fruity pebbles said:
'Dr. Awesome said:
'fruity pebbles said:
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I dont have the numbers right in front of me but im willing to bet that Julio either outscored or came very close to outscoring any of those guys on a per game basis last year. Id say hes a little more than potential, he produced very well in his first year.
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You'd lose that bet. In my league on a ppg:Welker - 22Roddy - 18Dez - 14Julio - 15Garcon - 13Colson - 16Wallace - 16
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He also played very sparingly in 3 games. Except for Welker, he was right on par with any of the others.
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3 ppg is hardly a small difference. I'll grant you he's on par with the others but I don't see anyone clamoring to throw Laurent Robinson or Antonio Brown high up on this list and they were right with Dez. Imo there's a clear tier of guys who will be statistical difference makers over the next 3 years (I give limited attention to projecting past 3 years). After that it's a giant pool of guys who are all fairly comparable points wise, but some have bigger names than others. I would love to have AJ/Julio/Dez/etc on my team. But we're looking at this the wrong way. Most of these guys could explode if they were given 150 targets. Monster targets are what lead to monster seasons. Should Dez be ranked as the #5 wr? Maybe. But once we get past the top few names I think it's one massive tier with little difference between a lot of guys.Who will have more points next year, Dez or Welker? Two years from now? Three? I think Welker has him beat easily for the next 2 seasons. And that's imo being conservative. And at that point there's always going to be a new group of guys to come along. I'll take the very best for a couple seasons then replace them instead of taking the next tier down for a long time to come (unless I'm in a 32 team league or have some atypical starting requirements).
 
'golfguy said:
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I'd seriously like to know how long people have been playing in dynasty leagues that have julio jones and aj green in the top 5. that's just crazy. there are several KNOWN commodities that are young enough and should be here more readily. where is andre, greg, wes, roddy, vincent, marques.
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I don't necessarily disagree that Green & Julio shouldn't be up so high, but fact is, I have Green, Julio, Jennings & Colston in several dynasty Footballguys leagues that have mostly seasoned fantasy owners; the offers for Green & Julio are far better than those for Jennings... Colston barely gets an offer. This is the main reason I ride guys like Frank Gore & MJD into the ground rather than trade, because the youth & high mileage factor in dynasties has most convinced once an RB is 26 & a WR is 28 he has lost most of his trade value.
 
'stp-d said:
I don't necessarily disagree that Green & Julio shouldn't be up so high, but fact is, I have Green, Julio, Jennings & Colston in several dynasty Footballguys leagues that have mostly seasoned fantasy owners; the offers for Green & Julio are far better than those for Jennings... Colston barely gets an offer. This is the main reason I ride guys like Frank Gore & MJD into the ground rather than trade, because the youth & high mileage factor in dynasties has most convinced once an RB is 26 & a WR is 28 he has lost most of his trade value.
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Great point, the market determines these guys' prices and value; right now you couldn't get one of these guys away from their owners. I bet you can get AJ or Fitz cheaper than you can get Green or Jones or Nicks / Calvin is still the king of kings ofcourse. The reason for that is these kids are going to have a great 10 yrs baring a injury. Are they going to outscore Wes or AJ (if healthy) this year, I highly doubt it... it would be great if one of them makes it into the top 10. But the market values what happen in the future that determines these polls, especially in the offseason.During the season I want results, don't care if it from 22 yr old Green or 28 yr Colston on a bad leg... whoever scores me more points wins me championships.BTW, would take Cruz any of these guys
 
'Portis 26 said:
I appreciate that this is a dynasty poll, but the most common mistake in dynasty leagues (and I've been doing dynasty for over a decade) is to over-value potential as opposed to production. Guys with potential may get there, but often don't. Koren Robinson and David Terrell had potential, and huge amounts of it, for example. Besides, you often have to wait for potential to come through.Now Dez Bryant and Julio Jones have potential, but they are not there yet, and to my mind it makes no sense to value them above very high-producing guys who are already there like Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson or Mike Wallace.
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I hear what you are saying. At the same time I think it depends on your team goals. If you are in position to win now, you take high producers. However, if you are rebuilding then I do think it makes more sense to go after potential. And to my point, guys like Jennings, Andre Johnson and Wallace were potential guys at one point and using your line of thinking, then you would have passed on them for say Reggie Wayne a couple of years ago. You obviously would prefer any of them to Wayne now. I am a huge fan of young players who have proven something at the nfl level. The year Andre Johnson broke out was a great time to buy him.
 
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