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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd (22 Viewers)

Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



19. Boston –
Boston (737 points)

24. Appetite For Destruction – Guns N' Roses (645 points)

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

36. Van Halen – Van Halen (489 points)

39. Are You Experienced – Jimi Hendrix Experience (437 points)

53. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols – Sex Pistols (373 points)

56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
I understand how this happens but if people voted for best album out of this llst, who do you think wins?
 
I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!
You should check out #342 - Night Train by Oscar Peterson
 
I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!

Try Thelonious Monk and you get piano that has a lot of percussive elements. And while the songs have improvisational components, they definitely seem more tied to a core idea than some of the later Davis and Coltrane modal stuff. Maybe start with something like Brilliant Corners and see if you like "Bemsha Swing."

I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!
You should check out #342 - Night Train by Oscar Peterson

Appreciate the suggestions, thanks. I will get to those soon. Are you two familiar with Tyner, or you mostly going off my description of what I lean towards?
 
I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!

Try Thelonious Monk and you get piano that has a lot of percussive elements. And while the songs have improvisational components, they definitely seem more tied to a core idea than some of the later Davis and Coltrane modal stuff. Maybe start with something like Brilliant Corners and see if you like "Bemsha Swing."

I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!
You should check out #342 - Night Train by Oscar Peterson

Appreciate the suggestions, thanks. I will get to those soon. Are you two familiar with Tyner, or you mostly going off my description of what I lean towards?
What you lean toward.

I’m very similar to you regarding jazz. Like I said when Night Train was listed, I only own a handful of jazz albums and that one is my favorite and most listened-to.

I’ll give Tyner a listen.
 
Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



19. Boston –
Boston (737 points)

24. Appetite For Destruction – Guns N' Roses (645 points)

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

36. Van Halen – Van Halen (489 points)

39. Are You Experienced – Jimi Hendrix Experience (437 points)

53. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols – Sex Pistols (373 points)

56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
I understand how this happens but if people voted for best album out of this llst, who do you think wins?
I'd guess the people who voted for the ones over Zeppelin would still feel the same way. :p

If you are talking about general public or FFA, I would guess that you are closer to being right, but also my retort would be how many voting would have listened to ALL the albums on the list for voting? I'd guess general public would lean towards the more well known names regardless. Looking at that list my gut guess would be in that scenario Zeppelin would be in the top 3-4 along with GNR and Jimi and another? Like with other bands, I prefer 70s LZ over their first few so my vote would to Boston, Rage, and Jimi in some order. To me those are the most top to bottom great albums on the list.
 
I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!

Try Thelonious Monk and you get piano that has a lot of percussive elements. And while the songs have improvisational components, they definitely seem more tied to a core idea than some of the later Davis and Coltrane modal stuff. Maybe start with something like Brilliant Corners and see if you like "Bemsha Swing."

I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!
You should check out #342 - Night Train by Oscar Peterson

Appreciate the suggestions, thanks. I will get to those soon. Are you two familiar with Tyner, or you mostly going off my description of what I lean towards?
What you lean toward.

I’m very similar to you regarding jazz. Like I said when Night Train was listed, I only own a handful of jazz albums and that one is my favorite and most listened-to.

I’ll give Tyner a listen.
Thanks.

So far I've listened to Atlantis, Sahara, The Real McCoy, and Today and Tomorrow and liked all those. If memory serves, he is also on piano for A Love Supreme and other Coltrane albums around that time.
 
Aja and What's Going On were very good to great listens. Marvin was slightly more hit or miss for me, but love the hits and really dug the album closer Inner City Blues. Steely Dan I've been wanting to check out more from after Round 1 of MAD's Donald Fagan playlist. I liked all the songs from Aja on there and many of the others, so for me that was the better of the two listens. Also, I needed to listen to some for Round 6 research since Aimee Mann talks them up and is a huge fan, specifically of the album Can't Buy a Thrill. I will get to that after the countdown, I'm sure.
Loved AJA when it came out. Easy to listen to but enough funk to separate it from other artists. Deacon Blues and Black Cow were my two favorites from that album.
 
18. Who's Next – The Who (747 points)

@Dennis Castro #1 :headbang:
@Dreaded Marco #4 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #4 :headbang:
@Pip's Invitation #6 :headbang:
@Ilov80s #6 :headbang:
@Tau837 #8 :headbang:
@Snoopy #11
@simey #15
@zamboni #24
@timschochet #29
@Dwayne_Castro #32
@kupcho1 #35
@Nick Vermeil meil #52
@KarmaPolice #53
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #55
@BrutalPenguin #60
@Mt. Man #65

Who's Next is the fifth studio album by the English rock band the Who, released on 2 August 1971, by Track Records in the United Kingdom and by Decca Records in the United States. It developed from the aborted Lifehouse project, a multi-media rock opera conceived by the group's guitarist Pete Townshend as a follow-up to the band's 1969 album Tommy. The project was cancelled owing to its complexity and to conflicts with Kit Lambert, the band's manager, but the group salvaged some of the songs, without the connecting story elements, to release as their next album. Eight of the nine songs on Who's Next were from Lifehouse, with the lone exception being the John Entwistle-penned "My Wife". Ultimately, the remaining Lifehouse tracks would all be released on other albums throughout the next decade.
 
Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



19. Boston –
Boston (737 points)

24. Appetite For Destruction – Guns N' Roses (645 points)

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

36. Van Halen – Van Halen (489 points)

39. Are You Experienced – Jimi Hendrix Experience (437 points)

53. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols – Sex Pistols (373 points)

56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
I understand how this happens but if people voted for best album out of this llst, who do you think wins?

I listed 2 of them and not Zeppelin's so at least two for me.

But as mentioned this is mostly tongue in cheek after people called it the "best debut album of all-time" when it was listed.

Obviously the other Zeppelin albums "stole" votes while the others don't have as much competition in their catalog.
 
@KarmaPolice

As a jazz guy who considered ranking 70 jazz albums, decided to keep it to a dozen, ranked one #1 overall, and didn't rank Take 5, A Love Supreme or B!tches Brew, but did consult AI on my thinking here - it seems working backwards from fusion makes the most sense for a rock/metal guy. In A Silent Way is good start but Birds of Fire might be the best. Either of the first two Mahavishnus. My dozen are loaded with fusion. It's the rockiest jazz and what I listen to most. Herbie Hancock Head Hunters and Weather Report Heavy Weather also made my list. You liked Aja which is associated with jazz fusion, but not quite jazz, so I think this is the subgenre to check into first. All the above recommendations are fine, a couple of them on my list, but fusion is transitional, and getting into McLaughlin is just mindblowing at times. For modern fusion that would have made my top 30 or so, Snarky Puppy is doing good work.
 
18. Who's Next – The Who (747 points)

@Dennis Castro #1 :headbang:
@Dreaded Marco #4 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #4 :headbang:
@Pip's Invitation #6 :headbang:
@Ilov80s #6 :headbang:
@Tau837 #8 :headbang:
@Snoopy #11
@simey #15
@zamboni #24
@timschochet #29
@Dwayne_Castro #32
@kupcho1 #35
@Nick Vermeil meil #52
@KarmaPolice #53
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #55
@BrutalPenguin #60
@Mt. Man #65

Who's Next is the fifth studio album by the English rock band the Who, released on 2 August 1971, by Track Records in the United Kingdom and by Decca Records in the United States. It developed from the aborted Lifehouse project, a multi-media rock opera conceived by the group's guitarist Pete Townshend as a follow-up to the band's 1969 album Tommy. The project was cancelled owing to its complexity and to conflicts with Kit Lambert, the band's manager, but the group salvaged some of the songs, without the connecting story elements, to release as their next album. Eight of the nine songs on Who's Next were from Lifehouse, with the lone exception being the John Entwistle-penned "My Wife". Ultimately, the remaining Lifehouse tracks would all be released on other albums throughout the next decade.
Such a great album.
Baba O'Riley was absolutely the best song ever for driving in heavy, congested but fast moving traffic.
 
17. Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin (752 points)


@Pip's Invitation #2 :headbang:
@shuke #4 :headbang:
@zamboni #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #9 :headbang:
@timschochet #13
@jwb #13
@New Binky the Doormat #13
@BrutalPenguin #15
@Scoresman #17
@Dreaded Marco #19
@Tau837 #22
@KarmaPolice #30
@ConstruxBoy 32
@MAC_32 #39
@landrys hat #65

Physical Graffiti is the sixth studio album by the English rock band Led Zeppelin. Released as a double album on 24 February 1975 in the United States and on 28 February 1975 in the United Kingdom, it was the group's first album to be released under their new label, Swan Song Records. The band wrote and recorded eight new songs for the album in early 1974 at Headley Grange, a country house in Hampshire, which gave them ample time to improvise arrangements and experiment with recording. The total playing time covered just under three sides of an LP, so they decided to expand it into a double album by including seven previously unreleased tracks from the sessions for the band's earlier albums Led Zeppelin III (1970), Led Zeppelin IV (1971) and Houses of the Holy (1973). The album covered a range of styles including hard rock, progressive rock, rock 'n' roll and folk. The album was then mixed over summer 1974 and planned for an end-of-year release; however, its release was delayed because the Peter Corriston-designed die-cut album cover proved difficult to manufacture.
 
18. Who's Next – The Who (747 points)

@Dennis Castro #1 :headbang:
@Dreaded Marco #4 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #4 :headbang:
@Pip's Invitation #6 :headbang:
@Ilov80s #6 :headbang:
@Tau837 #8 :headbang:
@Snoopy #11
@simey #15
@zamboni #24
@timschochet #29
@Dwayne_Castro #32
@kupcho1 #35
@Nick Vermeil meil #52
@KarmaPolice #53
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #55
@BrutalPenguin #60
@Mt. Man #65

Who's Next is the fifth studio album by the English rock band the Who, released on 2 August 1971, by Track Records in the United Kingdom and by Decca Records in the United States. It developed from the aborted Lifehouse project, a multi-media rock opera conceived by the group's guitarist Pete Townshend as a follow-up to the band's 1969 album Tommy. The project was cancelled owing to its complexity and to conflicts with Kit Lambert, the band's manager, but the group salvaged some of the songs, without the connecting story elements, to release as their next album. Eight of the nine songs on Who's Next were from Lifehouse, with the lone exception being the John Entwistle-penned "My Wife". Ultimately, the remaining Lifehouse tracks would all be released on other albums throughout the next decade.
This was the #1 album for teenage me. As you can see, I have five albums ranked above it now, as my tastes have evolved a bit, but I still find it to be a stunning achievement. It was a major driver in bringing the synthesizer into rock music, but deployed it in a way that served the songs well and didn't hold back the rocking. The Cars' debut album and Rush's Moving Pictures are among the many records that were made possible by this one. All four members are at the top of their games here, and Roger Daltrey's scream at the end of "Won't Get Fooled Again" is the high point of his entire career.

For the playlist, there is no wrong answer except "Love Ain't for Keeping" -- which is not a bad song but it's not at the level of the others and why include it when they had "Pure and Easy" and "Naked Eye" at their disposal? -- but I will say that my pick from this record in the British Isles countdown was "The Song Is Over," which is every bit the brilliant composition and arrangement that "Baba O'Riley" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" are, without being nearly as overplayed on the radio for more than 50 years.

And now for my Who hot take. I think the second-best Who-related album is Pete Townshend's Empty Glass. It's the only other Who-related LP with no misfires on it, and it touches on Townshend's personal demons at the time that he didn't really let into his Who material (save for The Who By Numbers' "However Much I Booze"), including his marital problems, his alcoholism and his difficulties with processing the death of Keith Moon. I find it to be an extremely resonant record -- along with its successor All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes, which has a few clunkers on it -- and it connects with me in ways that most Who records don't. Empty Glass is so good that Keith Moon's replacement Kenney Jones accused Townshend of saving his best songs for his solo albums (he was right). @rockaction I do think your fave The Who Sell Out is the second-best Who record, but I don't have the same emotional connection to it as I do to Who's Next and Empty Glass. Otherwise, I think the Who were pretty inconsistent on record and I wouldn't necessarily disagree if you called them a singles band.
 
And with Boston, we are at 5 albums by artists appearing for the first time on the list with one absolute lock still happening.

The over of 5.5 will carry the day
Two absolute locks that I see, at least.
I'm am blanking on these. All I am thinking of have shown up already to my knowledge (unless I am confusing supplemental posts about buddy picks and such for ones from the main countdown).
 
My vote is for Ten Years Gone
Your wish is granted as it's my #2 Zeppelin song, and my #1 isn't on this album. Added.
Awesome track that one and In My Time of Dying are my two favorites from the album. Like Quadrophenia, a rare double album I dig all the songs on. Usually I am wishing I could cut songs and make it into a single album.
 
17. Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin (752 points)


@Pip's Invitation #2 :headbang:
@shuke #4 :headbang:
@zamboni #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #9 :headbang:
@timschochet #13
@jwb #13
@New Binky the Doormat #13
@BrutalPenguin #15
@Scoresman #17
@Dreaded Marco #19
@Tau837 #22
@KarmaPolice #30
@ConstruxBoy 32
@MAC_32 #39
@landrys hat #65

Physical Graffiti is the sixth studio album by the English rock band Led Zeppelin. Released as a double album on 24 February 1975 in the United States and on 28 February 1975 in the United Kingdom, it was the group's first album to be released under their new label, Swan Song Records. The band wrote and recorded eight new songs for the album in early 1974 at Headley Grange, a country house in Hampshire, which gave them ample time to improvise arrangements and experiment with recording. The total playing time covered just under three sides of an LP, so they decided to expand it into a double album by including seven previously unreleased tracks from the sessions for the band's earlier albums Led Zeppelin III (1970), Led Zeppelin IV (1971) and Houses of the Holy (1973). The album covered a range of styles including hard rock, progressive rock, rock 'n' roll and folk. The album was then mixed over summer 1974 and planned for an end-of-year release; however, its release was delayed because the Peter Corriston-designed die-cut album cover proved difficult to manufacture.
This record is the absolute peak of Led Zeppelin's career, which is really saying something given that it came after their record that is probably finishing in the top 10, maybe even the top 5, in this countdown. It was the third Zeppelin cassette I ever bought, and young me looked something like this on first listen: :eek: :eek::eek::eek::wub: That they had this much strong material for a double album is mindblowing -- as is knowing that some of it consisted of outtakes from previous albums. The killer hard rock they were known for is here in abundance, and even takes a funky turn with "Trampled Under Foot." But they also provide incredible takes on prog ("In the Light"), Eastern music ("Kashmir"), something resembling mainstream American rock ("Night Flight"), country rock ("Down by the Seaside," a 1970 outtake inspired by Neil Young) and gentle acoustic music ("Black Country Woman"). But as I said earlier, my favorite track is the sprawling ballad "Ten Years Gone," which has some of Jimmy Page's most lyrical, emotional guitar playing and one of Robert Plant's best vocal performances.
 
ok, I'll make a music related post. I love Christmas. Yes, I'm a kid at heart and I do like to get presents but I also like giving them. I think I do give good gifts but sometimes I feel like my niece and nephew don't appreciate what I get them. They may be a little spoiled. Anyways, I like the music, the decerations-all of it. When I was younger and more people celebrated my parents would drive my brother and I around to see the lights/decorations.

Since it won't make the list and I'm likely the only one that added a Christmas album anyways...here is my 10th ranked album .

I had gotten excited a little bit when someone mentioned Savatage since TSO is one of their side projects. Truth be told, I've never really listened to Savatage though and I don't think any of thier albums made it.

I also really like this one.

and while it's not TSO, this is also something I like.

Please listen and enjoy

Sorry if I messed anything up DR. O
I had a Christmas album also. In my top 20 no less.
 
I hate Christmas music - except for Christmas Eve and Day (and the day the tree is being put up and decorated.)

Stop playing Christmas music in November!!!
I listened to The Roches sing the "Hallelujah Chorus" yesterday.

Suck it.
Although that's actually an Easter song everyone plays it at Christmastime. I'll allow it. ;)
 
19. Boston Boston (737 points)

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@kupcho1 #3 :headbang:
@Dwayne_Castro #3 :headbang:
@BroncoFreak #9 :headbang:
@Uruk-Hai #13
@Atomic Punk #15
@Snoopy #17
@Ghost Rider #19
@KarmaPolice #28
@Dennis Castro #30
@Mt. Man #41
@Val Rannous #43
@jwb #44
@Chaos34 #58

Boston is the debut studio album by American rock band Boston, released on August 25, 1976, by Epic Records. It was produced by band guitarist Tom Scholz and John Boylan. A multi-instrumentalist and engineer who had been involved in the Boston music scene since the late 1960s, Scholz started to write and record demos in his apartment basement with singer Brad Delp, but received numerous rejections from major record labels. The demo tape fell into the hands of CBS-owned Epic, which signed the band in 1975.
Another major miss on my part. It just didn't come to mind. It's the perfect encapsulation of where mainstream rock was in 1976. And this is another debut album that may as well be a greatest hits album. Every single track was played by the FM stations I listened to as a teen.
I knew this and The Cars would be coming in this area of the draft. Both are groups from Boston. The one named for the city dropped the perfect encapsulation of mainstream rock in 1976 and then just 2 years later, The Cars delivered a debut that showed America where rock was heading in the coming decade. Both albums were wall to wall radio hits. Toss in Aerosmith and J. Geils and it equals quite an apex for the Boston rock scene.
 
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Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



19. Boston –
Boston (737 points)

24. Appetite For Destruction – Guns N' Roses (645 points)

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

36. Van Halen – Van Halen (489 points)

39. Are You Experienced – Jimi Hendrix Experience (437 points)

53. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols – Sex Pistols (373 points)

56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
I understand how this happens but if people voted for best album out of this llst, who do you think wins?
Hmmm....not sure but LZ1 would be towards the bottom if I had to rank them.
 
18. Who's Next – The Who (747 points)

@Dennis Castro #1 :headbang:
@Dreaded Marco #4 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #4 :headbang:
@Pip's Invitation #6 :headbang:
@Ilov80s #6 :headbang:
@Tau837 #8 :headbang:
@Snoopy #11
@simey #15
@zamboni #24
@timschochet #29
@Dwayne_Castro #32
@kupcho1 #35
@Nick Vermeil meil #52
@KarmaPolice #53
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #55
@BrutalPenguin #60
@Mt. Man #65

Who's Next is the fifth studio album by the English rock band the Who, released on 2 August 1971, by Track Records in the United Kingdom and by Decca Records in the United States. It developed from the aborted Lifehouse project, a multi-media rock opera conceived by the group's guitarist Pete Townshend as a follow-up to the band's 1969 album Tommy. The project was cancelled owing to its complexity and to conflicts with Kit Lambert, the band's manager, but the group salvaged some of the songs, without the connecting story elements, to release as their next album. Eight of the nine songs on Who's Next were from Lifehouse, with the lone exception being the John Entwistle-penned "My Wife". Ultimately, the remaining Lifehouse tracks would all be released on other albums throughout the next decade.
This was my dark horse album to finish #1 thinking there was a chance the other big 3 British bands might cannibalize themselves. The Who were my dad's favorite band and this his favorite album. I think Baba O'Reilly and Won't Get Fooled Again are the best combo of opening track/closing track in rock history.
 
Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



19. Boston –
Boston (737 points)

24. Appetite For Destruction – Guns N' Roses (645 points)

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

36. Van Halen – Van Halen (489 points)

39. Are You Experienced – Jimi Hendrix Experience (437 points)

53. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols – Sex Pistols (373 points)

56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
I understand how this happens but if people voted for best album out of this llst, who do you think wins?
I ranked I third among this group
 
It's Mariah Carey, isn't it?
No. Lol
Though I do love singing that song, with my alternate lyrics about cheese:

Oooooh
I don't want much for Christmas,
There is just one thing I need
When I wake up Christmas morning
I just want to eat some cheese
Cheddar, Swiss or Provolone
Parmesan or Mascarpone
Asking Santa please
All I want for Christmas is cheese
 
17. Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin (752 points)


@Pip's Invitation #2 :headbang:
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@zamboni #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #9 :headbang:
@timschochet #13
@jwb #13
@New Binky the Doormat #13
@BrutalPenguin #15
@Scoresman #17
@Dreaded Marco #19
@Tau837 #22
@KarmaPolice #30
@ConstruxBoy 32
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Physical Graffiti is the sixth studio album by the English rock band Led Zeppelin. Released as a double album on 24 February 1975 in the United States and on 28 February 1975 in the United Kingdom, it was the group's first album to be released under their new label, Swan Song Records. The band wrote and recorded eight new songs for the album in early 1974 at Headley Grange, a country house in Hampshire, which gave them ample time to improvise arrangements and experiment with recording. The total playing time covered just under three sides of an LP, so they decided to expand it into a double album by including seven previously unreleased tracks from the sessions for the band's earlier albums Led Zeppelin III (1970), Led Zeppelin IV (1971) and Houses of the Holy (1973). The album covered a range of styles including hard rock, progressive rock, rock 'n' roll and folk. The album was then mixed over summer 1974 and planned for an end-of-year release; however, its release was delayed because the Peter Corriston-designed die-cut album cover proved difficult to manufacture.
This record is the absolute peak of Led Zeppelin's career, which is really saying something given that it came after their record that is probably finishing in the top 10, maybe even the top 5, in this countdown. It was the third Zeppelin cassette I ever bought, and young me looked something like this on first listen: :eek: :eek::eek::eek::wub: That they had this much strong material for a double album is mindblowing -- as is knowing that some of it consisted of outtakes from previous albums. The killer hard rock they were known for is here in abundance, and even takes a funky turn with "Trampled Under Foot." But they also provide incredible takes on prog ("In the Light"), Eastern music ("Kashmir"), something resembling mainstream American rock ("Night Flight"), country rock ("Down by the Seaside," a 1970 outtake inspired by Neil Young) and gentle acoustic music ("Black Country Woman"). But as I said earlier, my favorite track is the sprawling ballad "Ten Years Gone," which has some of Jimmy Page's most lyrical, emotional guitar playing and one of Robert Plant's best vocal performances.
In My Time Of Dying is my favorite, but no issue at all with Ten Years Gone. So many bangers on this album on top of what you mentioned. I don't remember Down By The Seaside offhand, but when I used to listen to this cover-to-cover I just pretended it ended with Black Country Woman.
 
19. Boston Boston (737 points)

@Mrs. Rannous #2 :headbang:
@higgins #3 :headbang:
@kupcho1 #3 :headbang:
@Dwayne_Castro #3 :headbang:
@BroncoFreak #9 :headbang:
@Uruk-Hai #13
@Atomic Punk #15
@Snoopy #17
@Ghost Rider #19
@KarmaPolice #28
@Dennis Castro #30
@Mt. Man #41
@Val Rannous #43
@jwb #44
@Chaos34 #58

Boston is the debut studio album by American rock band Boston, released on August 25, 1976, by Epic Records. It was produced by band guitarist Tom Scholz and John Boylan. A multi-instrumentalist and engineer who had been involved in the Boston music scene since the late 1960s, Scholz started to write and record demos in his apartment basement with singer Brad Delp, but received numerous rejections from major record labels. The demo tape fell into the hands of CBS-owned Epic, which signed the band in 1975.
Another major miss on my part. It just didn't come to mind. It's the perfect encapsulation of where mainstream rock was in 1976. And this is another debut album that may as well be a greatest hits album. Every single track was played by the FM stations I listened to as a teen.
I knew this and The Cars would be coming in this area of the draft. Both are groups from Boston. The one named for the city dropped the perfect encapsulation of mainstream rock in 1976 and then just 2 years later, The Cars delivered a debut that showed America where was rock was heading in the coming decade. Both albums were wall to wall radio hits. Toss in Aerosmith and J. Geils and it equals quite an apex for the Boston rock scene.

Velvet Underground basically moved there in 1968 and played through '71 and changed the Boston scene entirely. It really starts there. And you're right: it then became an apex for a bunch of genres. Mission of Burma is considered the most avant garde of the punk acts, and they're a tough listen at times but also hit the sweet spot of excellence at others. One more shameless plug. Number five in the rockaction Punk Hundred with "That's How I Escaped My Certain Fate."
 
19. Boston Boston (737 points)

@Mrs. Rannous #2 :headbang:
@higgins #3 :headbang:
@kupcho1 #3 :headbang:
@Dwayne_Castro #3 :headbang:
@BroncoFreak #9 :headbang:
@Uruk-Hai #13
@Atomic Punk #15
@Snoopy #17
@Ghost Rider #19
@KarmaPolice #28
@Dennis Castro #30
@Mt. Man #41
@Val Rannous #43
@jwb #44
@Chaos34 #58

Boston is the debut studio album by American rock band Boston, released on August 25, 1976, by Epic Records. It was produced by band guitarist Tom Scholz and John Boylan. A multi-instrumentalist and engineer who had been involved in the Boston music scene since the late 1960s, Scholz started to write and record demos in his apartment basement with singer Brad Delp, but received numerous rejections from major record labels. The demo tape fell into the hands of CBS-owned Epic, which signed the band in 1975.
Another major miss on my part. It just didn't come to mind. It's the perfect encapsulation of where mainstream rock was in 1976. And this is another debut album that may as well be a greatest hits album. Every single track was played by the FM stations I listened to as a teen.
I knew this and The Cars would be coming in this area of the draft. Both are groups from Boston. The one named for the city dropped the perfect encapsulation of mainstream rock in 1976 and then just 2 years later, The Cars delivered a debut that showed America where was rock was heading in the coming decade. Both albums were wall to wall radio hits. Toss in Aerosmith and J. Geils and it equals quite an apex for the Boston rock scene.

Velvet Underground basically moved there in 1968 and played through '71 and changed the Boston scene entirely. It really starts there. And you're right: it then became an apex for a bunch of genres. Mission of Burma is considered the most avant garde of the punk acts, and they're a tough listen at times but also hit the sweet spot of excellence at others. One more shameless plug. Number five in the rockaction Punk Hundred with "That's How I Escaped My Certain Fate."
Very cool, I did not know that. Also kind of ironic in that those bands like Aerosmith, The Cars, Boston were extremely hit driven which isn't what one thinks of with VU.
 
17. Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin (752 points)


@Pip's Invitation #2 :headbang:
@shuke #4 :headbang:
@zamboni #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #9 :headbang:
@timschochet #13
@jwb #13
@New Binky the Doormat #13
@BrutalPenguin #15
@Scoresman #17
@Dreaded Marco #19
@Tau837 #22
@KarmaPolice #30
@ConstruxBoy 32
@MAC_32 #39
@landrys hat #65

Physical Graffiti is the sixth studio album by the English rock band Led Zeppelin. Released as a double album on 24 February 1975 in the United States and on 28 February 1975 in the United Kingdom, it was the group's first album to be released under their new label, Swan Song Records. The band wrote and recorded eight new songs for the album in early 1974 at Headley Grange, a country house in Hampshire, which gave them ample time to improvise arrangements and experiment with recording. The total playing time covered just under three sides of an LP, so they decided to expand it into a double album by including seven previously unreleased tracks from the sessions for the band's earlier albums Led Zeppelin III (1970), Led Zeppelin IV (1971) and Houses of the Holy (1973). The album covered a range of styles including hard rock, progressive rock, rock 'n' roll and folk. The album was then mixed over summer 1974 and planned for an end-of-year release; however, its release was delayed because the Peter Corriston-designed die-cut album cover proved difficult to manufacture.
This record is the absolute peak of Led Zeppelin's career, which is really saying something given that it came after their record that is probably finishing in the top 10, maybe even the top 5, in this countdown. It was the third Zeppelin cassette I ever bought, and young me looked something like this on first listen: :eek: :eek::eek::eek::wub: That they had this much strong material for a double album is mindblowing -- as is knowing that some of it consisted of outtakes from previous albums. The killer hard rock they were known for is here in abundance, and even takes a funky turn with "Trampled Under Foot." But they also provide incredible takes on prog ("In the Light"), Eastern music ("Kashmir"), something resembling mainstream American rock ("Night Flight"), country rock ("Down by the Seaside," a 1970 outtake inspired by Neil Young) and gentle acoustic music ("Black Country Woman"). But as I said earlier, my favorite track is the sprawling ballad "Ten Years Gone," which has some of Jimmy Page's most lyrical, emotional guitar playing and one of Robert Plant's best vocal performances.
In My Time Of Dying is my favorite, but no issue at all with Ten Years Gone. So many bangers on this album on top of what you mentioned. I don't remember Down By The Seaside offhand, but when I used to listen to this cover-to-cover I just pretended it ended with Black Country Woman.
I find Plant to be a bit much on In My Time of Dying, but it's one of Bonham's best performances.
 
If I had to do my list over I would have included, perhaps, Fleetwood Mac’s first two albums from the late 60s. I’ve been on a British blues kick lately (Free, Savoy Brown, Chicken Shack, John Mayall, etc.) and the stuff by Peter Green is simpky outstanding,

In the same vein, ZZ Top’s First Record (that’s the name of the album) is as good as anything I think I’ve ever heard by this band. Every song is amazing.

If you haven't been listening to it, check out Fleetwood Mac's BBC album. Finished #60 on my list.

Also interesting is the band performing with Chicago blues greats.
I was going to do Fleetwood Mac for the last MAD countdown, but couldn’t shrink it down to 31 songs unless I either excluded the Buckingham/Nicks iteration or the Peter Green iteration. Neither option seemed right.

I consider the two iterations to be different bands. In my music library I call one Fleetwood Mac and one Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and in my artist countdown I had two separate entries for them. The problem is always what to do with the 1970-1974 period in between.
 
If I had to do my list over I would have included, perhaps, Fleetwood Mac’s first two albums from the late 60s. I’ve been on a British blues kick lately (Free, Savoy Brown, Chicken Shack, John Mayall, etc.) and the stuff by Peter Green is simpky outstanding,

In the same vein, ZZ Top’s First Record (that’s the name of the album) is as good as anything I think I’ve ever heard by this band. Every song is amazing.

If you haven't been listening to it, check out Fleetwood Mac's BBC album. Finished #60 on my list.

Also interesting is the band performing with Chicago blues greats.
I was going to do Fleetwood Mac for the last MAD countdown, but couldn’t shrink it down to 31 songs unless I either excluded the Buckingham/Nicks iteration or the Peter Green iteration. Neither option seemed right.

I consider the two iterations to be different bands. In my music library I call one Fleetwood Mac and one Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and in my artist countdown I had two separate entries for them. The problem is always what to do with the 1970-1974 period in between.
I'd make the departure of Peter Green the dividing point. Their sound got a lot "smoother" in the Danny Kirwan/Bob Welch era and to me those records sound more of a piece with the Buckingham/Nicks stuff than the Green stuff.
 
I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!

Try Thelonious Monk and you get piano that has a lot of percussive elements. And while the songs have improvisational components, they definitely seem more tied to a core idea than some of the later Davis and Coltrane modal stuff. Maybe start with something like Brilliant Corners and see if you like "Bemsha Swing."

I will try the ones that showed up on the countdown for jazz. I feel that is the last genre i have to conquer and really figure out where my interests lie.

My main hurdles besides the lack of vocals in most is what I face with prog - i love to meander, but I need a bit of structure. I get lost if it goes of the rails and transitions are really abrupt. I also lean more piano/drums and less trumpet/sax. So far McCoy Tyner is one that i do dig a lot. I have listened to several albums and have liked them all. Thanks again to yet another recommendation from Mikeal of Opeth for that!
You should check out #342 - Night Train by Oscar Peterson

Appreciate the suggestions, thanks. I will get to those soon. Are you two familiar with Tyner, or you mostly going off my description of what I lean towards?

I listen to a ton of Coltrane and Live at the Village Vanguard was my top ranked jazz album so I'm familiar with him in that regard, but I don't know that I have ever listened to any of his solo work. I was mostly going off your description.
 
Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



19. Boston –
Boston (737 points)

24. Appetite For Destruction – Guns N' Roses (645 points)

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

36. Van Halen – Van Halen (489 points)

39. Are You Experienced – Jimi Hendrix Experience (437 points)

53. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols – Sex Pistols (373 points)

56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
I understand how this happens but if people voted for best album out of this llst, who do you think wins?

I don’t think LZ1 beats any of these. Maybe Meat Loaf and Arcade Fire, but I don’t think necessarily so. LZ got plenty of love here for a hard rock band that borrowed so liberally from others that came before.
 
18. Who's Next – The Who (747 points)

@Dennis Castro #1 :headbang:
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@Mister CIA #4 :headbang:
@Pip's Invitation #6 :headbang:
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@Tau837 #8 :headbang:
@Snoopy #11
@simey #15
@zamboni #24
@timschochet #29
@Dwayne_Castro #32
@kupcho1 #35
@Nick Vermeil meil #52
@KarmaPolice #53
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #55
@BrutalPenguin #60
@Mt. Man #65

Who's Next is the fifth studio album by the English rock band the Who, released on 2 August 1971, by Track Records in the United Kingdom and by Decca Records in the United States. It developed from the aborted Lifehouse project, a multi-media rock opera conceived by the group's guitarist Pete Townshend as a follow-up to the band's 1969 album Tommy. The project was cancelled owing to its complexity and to conflicts with Kit Lambert, the band's manager, but the group salvaged some of the songs, without the connecting story elements, to release as their next album. Eight of the nine songs on Who's Next were from Lifehouse, with the lone exception being the John Entwistle-penned "My Wife". Ultimately, the remaining Lifehouse tracks would all be released on other albums throughout the next decade.
Good luck narrowing down to one song for playlist. My favorites are My Wife, Going Mobile, and of course Behind Blue Eyes.
 
17. Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin (752 points)


@Pip's Invitation #2 :headbang:
@shuke #4 :headbang:
@zamboni #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #9 :headbang:
@timschochet #13
@jwb #13
@New Binky the Doormat #13
@BrutalPenguin #15
@Scoresman #17
@Dreaded Marco #19
@Tau837 #22
@KarmaPolice #30
@ConstruxBoy 32
@MAC_32 #39
@landrys hat #65

Physical Graffiti is the sixth studio album by the English rock band Led Zeppelin.

The total playing time covered just under three sides of an LP, so they decided to expand it into a double album by including seven previously unreleased tracks from the sessions for the band's earlier albums Led Zeppelin III (1970), Led Zeppelin IV (1971) and Houses of the Holy (1973). The album covered a range of styles including hard rock, progressive rock, rock 'n' roll and folk. The album was then mixed over summer 1974 and planned for an end-of-year release; however, its release was delayed because the Peter Corriston-designed die-cut album cover proved difficult to manufacture.
I always wondered why I liked this album so much more than most double albums. And it's because instead of trying to stretch their current material into 4 sides, they instead added in those 7 songs left over from the previous 3 albums. In a way a compilation album, but of unreleased material.
 
18. Who's Next – The Who (747 points)

@Dennis Castro #1 :headbang:
@Dreaded Marco #4 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #4 :headbang:
@Pip's Invitation #6 :headbang:
@Ilov80s #6 :headbang:
@Tau837 #8 :headbang:
@Snoopy #11
@simey #15
@zamboni #24
@timschochet #29
@Dwayne_Castro #32
@kupcho1 #35
@Nick Vermeil meil #52
@KarmaPolice #53
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #55
@BrutalPenguin #60
@Mt. Man #65

Who's Next is the fifth studio album by the English rock band the Who, released on 2 August 1971, by Track Records in the United Kingdom and by Decca Records in the United States. It developed from the aborted Lifehouse project, a multi-media rock opera conceived by the group's guitarist Pete Townshend as a follow-up to the band's 1969 album Tommy. The project was cancelled owing to its complexity and to conflicts with Kit Lambert, the band's manager, but the group salvaged some of the songs, without the connecting story elements, to release as their next album. Eight of the nine songs on Who's Next were from Lifehouse, with the lone exception being the John Entwistle-penned "My Wife". Ultimately, the remaining Lifehouse tracks would all be released on other albums throughout the next decade.
This was my dark horse album to finish #1 thinking there was a chance the other big 3 British bands might cannibalize themselves. The Who were my dad's favorite band and this his favorite album. I think Baba O'Reilly and Won't Get Fooled Again are the best combo of opening track/closing track in rock history.
The surprise is Floyd #1-4! 🐖
 
16. Pet Sounds – The Beach Boys (760 points)

@Don Quixote #1 :headbang:
@zamboni #1 :headbang:
@Eephus #4
@Ilov80s #5 :headbang:
@krista4 #6 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #16
@Tau837 #19
Jeb #20
@Dennis Castro #21
@kupcho1 #29
@ConstruxBoy #29
@Uruk-Hai #49
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #50
@higgins #53
@simey #66

Pet Sounds is the eleventh studio album by the American rock band the Beach Boys, released on May 16, 1966, by Capitol Records. It was produced, arranged, and primarily composed by Brian Wilson with guest lyricist Tony Asher. Recorded largely between January and April 1966, it furthered the orchestral sound introduced in The Beach Boys Today! (1965). Initially promoted as "the most progressive pop album ever", Pet Sounds is recognized for its ambitious production, sophisticated harmonic structures, and coming of age themes. It is widely regarded as among the greatest and most influential albums in music history.
 
16. Pet Sounds – The Beach Boys (760 points)

@Don Quixote #1 :headbang:
@zamboni #1 :headbang:
@Eephus #4
@Ilov80s #5 :headbang:
@krista4 #6 :headbang:
@Mister CIA #7 :headbang:
@Dr. Octopus #16
@Tau837 #19
Jeb #20
@Dennis Castro #21
@kupcho1 #29
@ConstruxBoy #29
@Uruk-Hai #49
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #50
@higgins #53
@simey #66

Pet Sounds is the eleventh studio album by the American rock band the Beach Boys, released on May 16, 1966, by Capitol Records. It was produced, arranged, and primarily composed by Brian Wilson with guest lyricist Tony Asher. Recorded largely between January and April 1966, it furthered the orchestral sound introduced in The Beach Boys Today! (1965). Initially promoted as "the most progressive pop album ever", Pet Sounds is recognized for its ambitious production, sophisticated harmonic structures, and coming of age themes. It is widely regarded as among the greatest and most influential albums in music history.
Thought this album had a shot at №1 overall
 

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