Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd (221 Viewers)

[Pip's Invitation]

there is nothing in their catalog near as bad as St. Anger or lyrics as bad as "What don't kill ya make ya more strong! "

Uh, KP, there are few things in anybody’s catalog . . . I do like the grammar that’s off just enough to where you know he made a concerted effort to **** it up, which is fine, but when you have clever people messing up the conjugation of “to be” in brilliant ways (see: Minaj, Nicki - “I beez in the trap”) you look bad with your million dollar attempt at speaking like the people. Even your “people” say “doesn’t” these days. It’s a cliche that is so familiar and conveys such a debatable but interesting concept (that sounds so good and rolls off of the tongue) that when you alter it and screw up your conjugation you, homey, sound stupid.

So. Uh ... those Rolling Stones are pretty good, yeah?

 

[KarmaPolice]

The Bends - 69pts

Where I landed when I was listening to my #2 album this morning is that a lot of my thoughts I posted about Vs. applies here - there is a rawness and power to the music and guitars that I don't think is quite there on the rest of the albums. All of Thom's fears, worries, and insecurities are on display but I feel the impact more because of the rawness and immediacy of the music behind it. More of a straight-ahead rock album than others to come as well so it might be more accessible to the Radiohead hesitant. Obviously I agree with other posters that there isn't a bad song on the album and the front half kicks *** with the opener Planet Telex through the fantastic Fake Plastic Trees. Fake Plastic is one of my favorites to see and hear live as Jonny wails away. However, as I said before what kept making me come back to the album as I became a fan and they became my favorite band was the back half of the album, specifically the last 4 songs. IMO Bullet Proof is every bit as haunting and emotional as How to Disappear from KidA. Black Star is next and is my personal favorite from the album - I love the guitars and slighty hyperbolic lyrics from Thom. Sulk is another guitar driven gem that meanders a bit before building up to an epic guitar explosion at the end.

However, for the playlist since it is also a @titusbramble favorite, I will add Street Spirit (Fade Out) to the playlist. Mrs KP and I are rounding on our 20th anniversary this year in October and we had a bit of a Radiohead theme going even if people didn't really know or care. Our first dance was by Radiohead, she had 'true love waits' engraved in my wedding band, and we used various lyrics for place setters and odd items for our gift bags. One we used a lot is the closing line to Street Spirit and the album - "immerse your soul in love......."

Street Spirit (Fade Out)

Radiohead · The Bends · Song · 1995

open.spotify.com

 

[Dan Lambskin]

there is nothing in their catalog near as bad as St. Anger or lyrics as bad as "What don't kill ya make ya more strong! "

Uh, KP, there are few things in anybody’s catalog . . . I do like the grammar that’s off just enough to where you know he made a concerted effort to **** it up, which is fine, but when you have clever people messing up the conjugation of “to be” in brilliant ways (see: Minaj, Nicki - “I beez in the trap”) you look bad with your million dollar attempt at speaking like the people. Even your “people” say “doesn’t” these days. It’s a cliche that is so familiar and conveys such a debatable but interesting concept (that sounds so good and rolls off of the tongue) that when you alter it and screw up your conjugation you, homey, sound stupid.

Hello Me. Meet the real me

 

[krista4]

I'm admittedly wildly inconsistent in terms of whether I can separate the art from the artist. I can't really enjoy child rapist Woody Allen's movies anymore, but I still like child rapist Roman Polanski's. It's easy to avoid child rapist Ted Nugent's music since it's garbage anyway. I really struggle with child rapist Michael Jackson, though. Somehow I've convinced myself that I can listen to Jackson 5 because he probably wasn't a child rapist yet, but I just can't do his adult records anymore. This despite being absolutely a gigantic fan of both Thriller and Off the Wall in my formative years. To those who didn't experience it, there is no way to describe the earthquake that was Thriller. Maybe not as obvious to those who weren't there for it is that most every girl (at least those I knew) had a huge crush on him (my crush was on Prince instead). What we learned later was heartbreaking.

Oh, and @Dan Lambskin might be interested to know that our Bulldolls did a routine to Thriller that absolutely crushed. We brought it back the next year because it would bring the house down.

Where do you land on JK Rowling and Harry Potter?

I haven't had to face that since I wasn't interested in the books or movies anyway. Taking the easy way out on that.

 

[krista4]

My thoughts on all that are pretty complicated. With a Woody Allen movie, it's a lot easier to watch one of his movies that he wrote and directed but doesn't star. Even if he does star in it, there were hundreds of other people involved who weren't creeps so it is easy to justify that movies are a mass collective art form and even if the writer-director is a trash person, what about Diane Keaton? Terri Garr? The production designers and makeup artists and who wrote the music and filmed it, etc. Polanski did what he did and I am fine that he is blackballed but he also lived through the Holocaust and the first hand experience he had does bring something special to The Pianist. I don't want to meet him or give him money but there are still things to enjoy and learn from his art. Even with music, Michael Jackson didn't write and produce all of that music. Plus MJ is dead so there is no financial or moral support me streaming him on Spotify provides. I am sure that money makes it way to his estate, surviving kids, etc. Paris Jackson and his other surviving family had nothing to do with the sins of Michael. Ideally you would like to see a world where profits from R Kelly go to his victims or to charities that help abused youth. The people I am probably most likely to boycott are those still working, existing freely and who have gone out of their way to explicitly tie themselves to causes/ideologies that I oppose and who my accessing their work could be viewed as an endorsement of their world views. Kanye being an obvious example of that. Perhaps once he's much older or gone, I will listen to his music again. But no way am I doing that now and contributing to any thoughts he might have that his current outlook on the world is acceptable.

All a very reasonable way to look at it.

 

[krista4]

30. Sticky Fingers – The Rolling Stones (581 points)

@timschochet #2
@Uruk-Hai #10
@Dr. Octopus #13
@simey #18
@KarmaPolice #20
@Mister CIA #24
@Pip's Invitation #28
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #29
@New Binky the Doormat #34
@Atomic Punk #35
@ConstruxBoy #42
@turnjose7 #42
@kupcho1 #45


Sticky Fingers is the ninth studio album by the English rock band the Rolling Stones. It was released on 23 April 1971 on the Rolling Stones' new label, Rolling Stones Records.

The Rolling Stones had been contracted by Decca Records and London Records in the UK and the US since 1963. On this album, Mick Taylor made his second full-length appearance on a Rolling Stones album (after the live album Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!). It was the first studio album without Brian Jones, who had died two years earlier. The original Grammy-nominated cover artwork, conceived and photographed by Andy Warhol, showed a picture of a man in tight jeans, and had a working zip that opened to reveal underwear fabric. The cover was expensive to produce and damaged the vinyl record, so the size of the zipper adjustment was made by John Kosh at ABKCO Records. Later re-issues featured just the outer photograph of the jeans.

This is my highest-ranked Stones record. It flows amazingly well together and gives off a "dangerous things are happening at night by and to drugged-out people" vibe. My favorite track is Can't You Hear Me Knocking, the coda of which is Mick Taylor's finest moment as a Stone. The Santana-esque jamming isn't typical of the record, so if something more representative is preferred, I'd suggest Sway or Moonlight Mile.

Moonlight Mile is my second-favorite Stones song*. I didn't vote for this so have no sway, so to speak, but what a gorgeous piece of music.

*The first is She's a Rainbow and I'm embarrassed by that.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

30. Sticky Fingers – The Rolling Stones (581 points)

@timschochet #2
@Uruk-Hai #10
@Dr. Octopus #13
@simey #18
@KarmaPolice #20
@Mister CIA #24
@Pip's Invitation #28
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #29
@New Binky the Doormat #34
@Atomic Punk #35
@ConstruxBoy #42
@turnjose7 #42
@kupcho1 #45


Sticky Fingers is the ninth studio album by the English rock band the Rolling Stones. It was released on 23 April 1971 on the Rolling Stones' new label, Rolling Stones Records.

The Rolling Stones had been contracted by Decca Records and London Records in the UK and the US since 1963. On this album, Mick Taylor made his second full-length appearance on a Rolling Stones album (after the live album Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!). It was the first studio album without Brian Jones, who had died two years earlier. The original Grammy-nominated cover artwork, conceived and photographed by Andy Warhol, showed a picture of a man in tight jeans, and had a working zip that opened to reveal underwear fabric. The cover was expensive to produce and damaged the vinyl record, so the size of the zipper adjustment was made by John Kosh at ABKCO Records. Later re-issues featured just the outer photograph of the jeans.

This is my highest-ranked Stones record. It flows amazingly well together and gives off a "dangerous things are happening at night by and to drugged-out people" vibe. My favorite track is Can't You Hear Me Knocking, the coda of which is Mick Taylor's finest moment as a Stone. The Santana-esque jamming isn't typical of the record, so if something more representative is preferred, I'd suggest Sway or Moonlight Mile.

Moonlight Mile is my second-favorite Stones song*. I didn't vote for this so have no sway, so to speak, but what a gorgeous piece of music.

*The first is She's a Rainbow and I'm embarrassed by that.

Well, this is a story we need to hear. Why She's a Rainbow? Because it sounds like the Beatles?

 

[krista4]

Wait, has there been any Pink Floyd yet?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Wait, has there been any Pink Floyd yet?

Meddle came in at T290.

 

[rockaction]

there is nothing in their catalog near as bad as St. Anger or lyrics as bad as "What don't kill ya make ya more strong! "

Uh, KP, there are few things in anybody’s catalog . . . I do like the grammar that’s off just enough to where you know he made a concerted effort to **** it up, which is fine, but when you have clever people messing up the conjugation of “to be” in brilliant ways (see: Minaj, Nicki - “I beez in the trap”) you look bad with your million dollar attempt at speaking like the people. Even your “people” say “doesn’t” these days. It’s a cliche that is so familiar and conveys such a debatable but interesting concept (that sounds so good and rolls off of the tongue) that when you alter it and screw up your conjugation you, homey, sound stupid.

So. Uh ... those Rolling Stones are pretty good, yeah?

Oh, I’m agreeing with KP. The “you” is directed at Hetfield and Hetfield alone. Sorry to switch up the subject away from the music (the point of the thread, rock) with those consecutive two posts. I get going . . .

 

[Dr. Octopus]

*The first is She's a Rainbow and I'm embarrassed by that.

No reason to be.

 

[MAC_32]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

 

[krista4]

30. Sticky Fingers – The Rolling Stones (581 points)

@timschochet #2
@Uruk-Hai #10
@Dr. Octopus #13
@simey #18
@KarmaPolice #20
@Mister CIA #24
@Pip's Invitation #28
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #29
@New Binky the Doormat #34
@Atomic Punk #35
@ConstruxBoy #42
@turnjose7 #42
@kupcho1 #45


Sticky Fingers is the ninth studio album by the English rock band the Rolling Stones. It was released on 23 April 1971 on the Rolling Stones' new label, Rolling Stones Records.

The Rolling Stones had been contracted by Decca Records and London Records in the UK and the US since 1963. On this album, Mick Taylor made his second full-length appearance on a Rolling Stones album (after the live album Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!). It was the first studio album without Brian Jones, who had died two years earlier. The original Grammy-nominated cover artwork, conceived and photographed by Andy Warhol, showed a picture of a man in tight jeans, and had a working zip that opened to reveal underwear fabric. The cover was expensive to produce and damaged the vinyl record, so the size of the zipper adjustment was made by John Kosh at ABKCO Records. Later re-issues featured just the outer photograph of the jeans.

This is my highest-ranked Stones record. It flows amazingly well together and gives off a "dangerous things are happening at night by and to drugged-out people" vibe. My favorite track is Can't You Hear Me Knocking, the coda of which is Mick Taylor's finest moment as a Stone. The Santana-esque jamming isn't typical of the record, so if something more representative is preferred, I'd suggest Sway or Moonlight Mile.

Moonlight Mile is my second-favorite Stones song*. I didn't vote for this so have no sway, so to speak, but what a gorgeous piece of music.

*The first is She's a Rainbow and I'm embarrassed by that.

Well, this is a story we need to hear. Why She's a Rainbow? Because it sounds like the Beatles?

Crap, I wish I had any sort of story. Really, it just makes me happy. I like all the twists and turns and changes and the psychedelia and yes it sounds like some of the Beatles stuff.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Wait, has there been any Pink Floyd yet?

Hopefully 4 in the top 5

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'm admittedly wildly inconsistent in terms of whether I can separate the art from the artist. I can't really enjoy child rapist Woody Allen's movies anymore, but I still like child rapist Roman Polanski's. It's easy to avoid child rapist Ted Nugent's music since it's garbage anyway. I really struggle with child rapist Michael Jackson, though. Somehow I've convinced myself that I can listen to Jackson 5 because he probably wasn't a child rapist yet, but I just can't do his adult records anymore. This despite being absolutely a gigantic fan of both Thriller and Off the Wall in my formative years. To those who didn't experience it, there is no way to describe the earthquake that was Thriller. Maybe not as obvious to those who weren't there for it is that most every girl (at least those I knew) had a huge crush on him (my crush was on Prince instead). What we learned later was heartbreaking.

Oh, and @Dan Lambskin might be interested to know that our Bulldolls did a routine to Thriller that absolutely crushed. We brought it back the next year because it would bring the house down.

The Nuge is a world class ******* and yeah IIRC he had a thing for younger chicks (I mean he has a song called Jailbait), but Stranglehold and Fred Bear are great songs and I’ll still rock out to them, but yeah I have soured on him and another similar douchebag from Michigan who’s biggest album I ranked pretty high

Also not saying it’s right or wrong but times were different back then. Didn’t they put 13 year old Brooke Shields on a magazine cover and tout her has Americas next sex symbol or something like that? Winger singing about banging a 17 year seems tame in comparison but equally gross. Anyway I’m glad our society has at least made some progress there

My wife was on the Pom Pom squad and also did a thriller routine. I don’t think they had a fancy moniker like the BullDolls though. We were the Cougars though but I don’t think that word had the same connotation as it does now. Unfortunately she also had to do a routine to Hey Mickey or whatever that Toni Basil song is called. She hated that one

My argument is I am not sure the sentiment has gone away, maybe just gone more underground? Those examples are all true, but recently I have been listening to a great movie podcast - You Must Remember This. That season's topic was "The Erotic 90s" and some of the stuff she was reminding me of from the fetishizing of Brittny Spears to an underage Alicia Silverstone in the Aerosmith videos to articles in prominent magazines like "7 actresses we are willing to wait for". We say WTF was going on in the 70s with Shields, but it was also right under our noses as we were coming of age as well. Maybe we are improving a little out in the open, but there are still examples I seen in the 2020s that makes me think we haven't that much from the oversexualizing of girls in pageants and dance teams to weird incestual trends in "adult entertainment" (don't you all pretend you don't know what I am talking about!) to big cases like Weinstein and Epstein. I often feel we are a culture that talks out of both sides of our mouths on this issue - it is truly bizarre to me.

As far as the disconnect with artists with histories like Jackson and others, I agree with krista that it can be inconsistent in application. For me a lot has to do with the crime and how directly the art I am consuming is related to the artist. For example, I would have less issues watching a movie with Cosby in it because 100s of people also put their time and effort into that art, but there is no chance I would see a stand up that is just him or read a book he wrote. Polanski is another example - I will still watch one of his movies, but I struggle listening to Michael Jackson solo works and giving those clicks.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

He’s got quite a few covers you could slip
In

 

[KarmaPolice]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

He’s got quite a few covers you could slip
In

 

[MAC_32]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

He’s got quite a few covers you could slip
In

**Karma Police disapproves of this post**

 

[Dan Lambskin]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

He’s got quite a few covers you could slip
In

Lunatic Fringe
wicked game (acoustic)
Gimme shelter (with Lzzy Hale)

Do you just hate all covers on principle?

I get it it’s note for note like Weezer doing Africa but what about original takes like Gary Jules Mad World or Faster Pussycat covering You’re So Vain? Dynamite Hack doing Boys in the hood?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Where’s @BLOCKED_PUNT when you need him

I'M FINALLY NEEDED!

 

[KarmaPolice]

I know it's shtick at this point, maybe if we do a theme I should actually do covers I like.

One thing I have noticed is outside of Dino's Cure cover that I really dislike, most of my MAD artists and my top ranking artists do covers that I really like. Opeth's covers of Maiden and Alice in Chains are damn good. Mastodon also covers Alice in Chains (even better than Opeth's). Beck does a mean Prince, I loved Lord Huron's Neil Young cover, and I had forgotten how much I loved Aimee Mann's Beatles cover (@krista4 !).

Doc asked a bit ago and I never got around to answering him after my outburst, but my feelings on covers is mostly ambivalent. There are some popular ones I really have a burning hate for - Buckley's Halleluiah and Cash's Hurt come to mind - and there are ones I love, but I would say 90% just fall in the category of not getting the love for them and not actively seeking them out. IMO covers are for filling out a live setlist with, but often when I get to them in an album they just sound "off" and impede with the flow of the album for me.

 

[KarmaPolice]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

He’s got quite a few covers you could slip
In

Lunatic Fringe
wicked game (acoustic)
Gimme shelter (with Lzzy Hale)

Do you just hate all covers on principle?

I get it it’s note for note like Weezer doing Africa but what about original takes like Gary Jules Mad World or Faster Pussycat covering You’re So Vain? Dynamite Hack doing Boys in the hood?

Hopefully I answered well enough above.

 

[MAC_32]

wicked game (acoustic)
Gimme shelter (with Lzzy Hale)

Fwiw, these are both OUTSTANDING covers.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

wicked game (acoustic)
Gimme shelter (with Lzzy Hale)

Fwiw, these are both OUTSTANDING covers.

HIM does an amazing Wicked Game cover too

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I know good covers!

 

[KarmaPolice]

He's the only one that would like Slipknot?

I like Slipknot!

...in small doses.

I've actually thought about doing Corey Taylor for a MAD countdown, just unsure if I can get to 31 without reaching.

He’s got quite a few covers you could slip
In

**Karma Police disapproves of this post**

More like CoverPolice.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I'm admittedly wildly inconsistent in terms of whether I can separate the art from the artist. I can't really enjoy child rapist Woody Allen's movies anymore, but I still like child rapist Roman Polanski's. It's easy to avoid child rapist Ted Nugent's music since it's garbage anyway. I really struggle with child rapist Michael Jackson, though. Somehow I've convinced myself that I can listen to Jackson 5 because he probably wasn't a child rapist yet, but I just can't do his adult records anymore. This despite being absolutely a gigantic fan of both Thriller and Off the Wall in my formative years. To those who didn't experience it, there is no way to describe the earthquake that was Thriller. Maybe not as obvious to those who weren't there for it is that most every girl (at least those I knew) had a huge crush on him (my crush was on Prince instead). What we learned later was heartbreaking.

Oh, and @Dan Lambskin might be interested to know that our Bulldolls did a routine to Thriller that absolutely crushed. We brought it back the next year because it would bring the house down.

Where do you land on JK Rowling and Harry Potter?

Jk molested Harry Potter??

Worse, Dobby.

Wow. That's on point.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I know good covers!

Whatcha got? Im saving a few that are off some upcoming albums

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

In the air tonight

the thunder rolls

Can prob find some good ones from leo moracchioli

 

[MAC_32]

I know good covers!

Whatcha got? Im saving a few that are off some upcoming albums

Disturbed did both Land of Confusion and Sounds of Silence better than their originals and I know those are both VERY large bars to clear. @Yo Mama mentioned STP's Dancing Days last month, he's right. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I think Shinedown did Simple Man way better than Skynyrd too.

That's probably enough for now.

 

[Val Rannous]

Enjoy:

The Trooper

Steve ´n´ Seagulls · Farm Machine · Song · 2015

open.spotify.com

 

[KarmaPolice]

I know good covers!

Whatcha got? Im saving a few that are off some upcoming albums

Speaking of covers and bands I was surprised to not see in the top 380 - I do dig Deftones' Simple Man. Where were you all at with White Pony??!!

Simple Man - 2005 Remaster

Deftones · Covers · Song · 2011

open.spotify.com

For one that is totally different than it's original, I usually point to Tori Amos' version of Raining Blood. Slayer were big fans from what I remember.

Raining Blood

Tori Amos · Strange Little Girls · Song · 2001

open.spotify.com

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Coverpopo might like the acoustic So Cold

 

[Dan Lambskin]

In the air tonight

the thunder rolls

Can prob find some good ones from leo moracchioli

Already had the thunder rolls one

Added the other. Funny enough just listed to the Nonpoint cover of In the Air

Currently listening to Bif Naked cover Nothing Else Matters

I probably should have ranked I, Bificus

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

wicked game (acoustic)
Gimme shelter (with Lzzy Hale)

Fwiw, these are both OUTSTANDING covers.

HIM does an amazing Wicked Game cover too

Already posted in the theme draft under Umlauts. And their cover of "Solitary Man".

 

[Ilov80s]

I'm admittedly wildly inconsistent in terms of whether I can separate the art from the artist. I can't really enjoy child rapist Woody Allen's movies anymore, but I still like child rapist Roman Polanski's. It's easy to avoid child rapist Ted Nugent's music since it's garbage anyway. I really struggle with child rapist Michael Jackson, though. Somehow I've convinced myself that I can listen to Jackson 5 because he probably wasn't a child rapist yet, but I just can't do his adult records anymore. This despite being absolutely a gigantic fan of both Thriller and Off the Wall in my formative years. To those who didn't experience it, there is no way to describe the earthquake that was Thriller. Maybe not as obvious to those who weren't there for it is that most every girl (at least those I knew) had a huge crush on him (my crush was on Prince instead). What we learned later was heartbreaking.

Oh, and @Dan Lambskin might be interested to know that our Bulldolls did a routine to Thriller that absolutely crushed. We brought it back the next year because it would bring the house down.

The Nuge is a world class ******* and yeah IIRC he had a thing for younger chicks (I mean he has a song called Jailbait), but Stranglehold and Fred Bear are great songs and I’ll still rock out to them, but yeah I have soured on him and another similar douchebag from Michigan who’s biggest album I ranked pretty high

Also not saying it’s right or wrong but times were different back then. Didn’t they put 13 year old Brooke Shields on a magazine cover and tout her has Americas next sex symbol or something like that? Winger singing about banging a 17 year seems tame in comparison but equally gross. Anyway I’m glad our society has at least made some progress there

My wife was on the Pom Pom squad and also did a thriller routine. I don’t think they had a fancy moniker like the BullDolls though. We were the Cougars though but I don’t think that word had the same connotation as it does now. Unfortunately she also had to do a routine to Hey Mickey or whatever that Toni Basil song is called. She hated that one

My argument is I am not sure the sentiment has gone away, maybe just gone more underground? Those examples are all true, but recently I have been listening to a great movie podcast - You Must Remember This. That season's topic was "The Erotic 90s" and some of the stuff she was reminding me of from the fetishizing of Brittny Spears to an underage Alicia Silverstone in the Aerosmith videos to articles in prominent magazines like "7 actresses we are willing to wait for". We say WTF was going on in the 70s with Shields, but it was also right under our noses as we were coming of age as well. Maybe we are improving a little out in the open, but there are still examples I seen in the 2020s that makes me think we haven't that much from the oversexualizing of girls in pageants and dance teams to weird incestual trends in "adult entertainment" (don't you all pretend you don't know what I am talking about!) to big cases like Weinstein and Epstein. I often feel we are a culture that talks out of both sides of our mouths on this issue - it is truly bizarre to me.

As far as the disconnect with artists with histories like Jackson and others, I agree with krista that it can be inconsistent in application. For me a lot has to do with the crime and how directly the art I am consuming is related to the artist. For example, I would have less issues watching a movie with Cosby in it because 100s of people also put their time and effort into that art, but there is no chance I would see a stand up that is just him or read a book he wrote. Polanski is another example - I will still watch one of his movies, but I struggle listening to Michael Jackson solo works and giving those clicks.

Some of the stuff talked about on Howard Stern, good lord. I never cared for that show but it was just around everywhere, made it hard to avoid. I remember things like countdown clocks until the Olsen twins turned 18. Just weird stuff. The Britney and Alicia Silverstone fetishes didn't seem weird to me because I was in middle school and high school at the time so they were very appropriate crushes for me. But looking back at it now thinking that was also coming from 40 year old men with large platforms and massive audiences, it's gross. I've even seen some weird clips on social media of Justin Bieber when was a teen being on shows like Ellen and others where they were obsessively trying to talk about his sex life or were just fawning over his looks. He was 15-16 and you could see how deeply uncomfortable it was making him having adult women talking about him like that. Like he would try to change the subject and they would just force the conversation right back. This was around 2010 so yeah I agree it's not as far in the past as we might like to think.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

How about a super slowed down Dammit

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Also its likely just because I both like Lacuna Coil and Losing My Religion but their cover is ok

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Dolly's cover of "Shine" is still one of my all-time favorites.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Also I was just reminded of this from the scum bag singers talk

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

There is a band that we haven't seen yet that HAS to be on the list (I had it ranked higher than the already revealed my "highest ranked album that missed the top 350")

There's a handful on bands left that have not appeared so far.

Mr R figured this one out for me. I had no idea what Running Man Broccoli Burger meant.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Dolly's cover of "Shine" is still one of my all-time favorites.

I love Shine. Never knew this was a thing. I'm listening to it now but I like the original still.

 

[KarmaPolice]

How about the best Opeth cover - @shuke has the OG on his list.

Bridge of Sighs

Opeth · Watershed (Special Edition) · Song · 2008

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I really dig most of the Mastodon covers:

What Orion would sound like with a good drummer!

Orion

Mastodon · Medium Rarities · Song · 2020

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Just Got Paid

Mastodon · Covered, A Revolution In Sound: Warner Bros. Records · Song · 2009

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Video only of Alice in Chains' Again:

- YouTube

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I don't like their Stairway to Heaven quite as much as these others.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Music KP and Movie KP seem like different people.

 

[MAC_32]

How about the best Opeth cover - @shuke has the OG on his list.

Bridge of Sighs

Opeth · Watershed (Special Edition) · Song · 2008

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I really dig most of the Mastodon covers:

What Orion would sound like with a good drummer!

Orion

Mastodon · Medium Rarities · Song · 2020

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Just Got Paid

Mastodon · Covered, A Revolution In Sound: Warner Bros. Records · Song · 2009

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Video only of Alice in Chains' Again:

- YouTube

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I don't like their Stairway to Heaven quite as much as these others.

LOOOVE that rendition of Again

 

[KarmaPolice]

Music KP and Movie KP seem like different people.

Lol. How so?

 

[KarmaPolice]

How about the best Opeth cover - @shuke has the OG on his list.

Bridge of Sighs

Opeth · Watershed (Special Edition) · Song · 2008

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I really dig most of the Mastodon covers:

What Orion would sound like with a good drummer!

Orion

Mastodon · Medium Rarities · Song · 2020

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Just Got Paid

Mastodon · Covered, A Revolution In Sound: Warner Bros. Records · Song · 2009

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Video only of Alice in Chains' Again:

- YouTube

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I don't like their Stairway to Heaven quite as much as these others.

LOOOVE that rendition of Again

They nailed it with all of them singing. Other bands would miss that aspect of Alice In Chains on that song.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Lord Huron - Strange Trails (2015) - 67pts

Fellow MAD31ers and participants in song drafts will not be surprised by this. I have been a huge fan of this album since it came out. I remember hearing Meet Me in the Woods and being instantly hooked and started listening to this album a ton. My wife and I saw them live with Nathaniel Rateliff and despite liking the showmanship of Rateliff, it solidified that we both were drawn to Lord Huron's music much more. A blend of rock and folk, lots of songs of lost loves and connections, all while evoking a sense of a cosmic plan and manipulation. It is not a concept album, but all their albums beg to be played from start to finish as the songs blend and flow together. It originally was conceived of as a movie or a series of movies (which is very much reflected in the videos they made for the album and their stage presentation) Obviously one of my favorite albums of the 21st century. I have recommend this album and band to so many people, and since I didn't think it was on the countdown it was going to be album #1 on my recommended listening list at the end of the countdown for anybody who hasn't tried it. I was going to go with a deeper track, but unless @shuke has a stronger pull for a song, I will go with the obvious Meet Me in the Woods since it was the one that started my love for this fantastic band.

Playing it now.

 

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Music KP and Movie KP seem like different people.

Lol. How so?

movie snob
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metal head

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I'm admittedly wildly inconsistent in terms of whether I can separate the art from the artist. I can't really enjoy child rapist Woody Allen's movies anymore, but I still like child rapist Roman Polanski's. It's easy to avoid child rapist Ted Nugent's music since it's garbage anyway. I really struggle with child rapist Michael Jackson, though. Somehow I've convinced myself that I can listen to Jackson 5 because he probably wasn't a child rapist yet, but I just can't do his adult records anymore. This despite being absolutely a gigantic fan of both Thriller and Off the Wall in my formative years. To those who didn't experience it, there is no way to describe the earthquake that was Thriller. Maybe not as obvious to those who weren't there for it is that most every girl (at least those I knew) had a huge crush on him (my crush was on Prince instead). What we learned later was heartbreaking.

Oh, and @Dan Lambskin might be interested to know that our Bulldolls did a routine to Thriller that absolutely crushed. We brought it back the next year because it would bring the house down.

The Nuge is a world class ******* and yeah IIRC he had a thing for younger chicks (I mean he has a song called Jailbait), but Stranglehold and Fred Bear are great songs and I’ll still rock out to them, but yeah I have soured on him and another similar douchebag from Michigan who’s biggest album I ranked pretty high

Also not saying it’s right or wrong but times were different back then. Didn’t they put 13 year old Brooke Shields on a magazine cover and tout her has Americas next sex symbol or something like that? Winger singing about banging a 17 year seems tame in comparison but equally gross. Anyway I’m glad our society has at least made some progress there

My wife was on the Pom Pom squad and also did a thriller routine. I don’t think they had a fancy moniker like the BullDolls though. We were the Cougars though but I don’t think that word had the same connotation as it does now. Unfortunately she also had to do a routine to Hey Mickey or whatever that Toni Basil song is called. She hated that one

My argument is I am not sure the sentiment has gone away, maybe just gone more underground? Those examples are all true, but recently I have been listening to a great movie podcast - You Must Remember This. That season's topic was "The Erotic 90s" and some of the stuff she was reminding me of from the fetishizing of Brittny Spears to an underage Alicia Silverstone in the Aerosmith videos to articles in prominent magazines like "7 actresses we are willing to wait for". We say WTF was going on in the 70s with Shields, but it was also right under our noses as we were coming of age as well. Maybe we are improving a little out in the open, but there are still examples I seen in the 2020s that makes me think we haven't that much from the oversexualizing of girls in pageants and dance teams to weird incestual trends in "adult entertainment" (don't you all pretend you don't know what I am talking about!) to big cases like Weinstein and Epstein. I often feel we are a culture that talks out of both sides of our mouths on this issue - it is truly bizarre to me.

As far as the disconnect with artists with histories like Jackson and others, I agree with krista that it can be inconsistent in application. For me a lot has to do with the crime and how directly the art I am consuming is related to the artist. For example, I would have less issues watching a movie with Cosby in it because 100s of people also put their time and effort into that art, but there is no chance I would see a stand up that is just him or read a book he wrote. Polanski is another example - I will still watch one of his movies, but I struggle listening to Michael Jackson solo works and giving those clicks.

And this is one of the reasons I love Jim Croce. He met his eventual wife when she was 16 and he was 20. He knew she wasn't old enough to make a life choice like that, so he waited for her to grow up and have life experience before they dated. It's the subject of his song, "A Long Time Ago".

A Long Time Ago

Jim Croce · You Don't Mess Around With Jim · Song · 1972

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