Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd (25 Viewers)

[Tau837]

I lean towards @rockaction 's take on this in regards to Zep, and I love Zep. But you cannot lift whole verses from someone else's songs, turn the amps to 11, and change the name of the record to a fruit without acknowledging the originator (or, whoever owns the rights) so that they get paid.

I don’t agree with them not crediting others where appropriate. But they obviously did much more than “turn the amps to 11 and change the name of the record.”

Sure, it is reasonable to say the other debuts were more original. That doesn’t mean the music was better.

They got SUED by others for over a dozen songs for not correctly crediting the sources. They were over the line in what they did and, in some cases (not enough), got penalized as they should have.

I never said a word about the quality of the music they made. In fact, I said I love their music in the very post you rolled your eyes at.

Hence the strawman comment.

This entire tangent has really sapped the enjoyment of this thread for me. Maybe it's my fault. Regardless, I'm going to stop posting about this now.

 

[Mt. Man]

(still catching up. Today's a day I can mostly listen to music though. So could be a lot worse)

35. The Bends – Radiohead (502 points)

Of course I’d heard “Creep”, but I didn’t get into Radiohead until a bit later. Heck, I’m not even sure that I picked up this until after I grabbed a future album. I’d like to think I got hooked into this, from hits like “Fake Plastic Trees”, “Just” (and its music video) and “Black Star”. I just don’t remember for sure.

Anyway, though there’s another Radiohead album plausibly out there, I’m (slightly) more likely to listen to The Bends in its entirety. Past the songs I mentioned, there’s a lot that I simply love. Which, considering that I put this so high in my rankings, is probably not a surprise. It’s just hard to find a weak moment on the album. Or maybe that’s me being a person that would put “(Nice Dream)” on the top half of songs from this album.

Picking one song would’ve been a tough decision. I think I would’ve leaned “Just” or the title track. But it’s hard to deny the appeal of the dreamy, catchy “Street Spirit (Fade Out)” that was selected. That little “And fade out again” gets me every time.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Guessing a certain Irish band will grab the №1 ranking.

I’ve been waiting for The Cranberries to show up.

Dropkick Murphys for the win

 

[FarFromHome]

This thread has really informed me that I live in music bubble and havent branched out as much as I should. I stick to my stuff on repeat really. I have a 15 hour primary playlist I've created and a 9 hour country playlist i play when I'm sad. Might be time to use this countdown to venture out a bit.

 

[kupcho1]

Guessing a certain Irish band will grab the №1 ranking.

I will riot

I don't want to spoil things, but could you do so quietly?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Just wait until it turns out to be The Irish Rovers.

 

[Mookie Gizzy]

15. Animals – Pink Floyd (770 points)

@Mookie Gizzy #1
@zamboni #2
@KarmaPolice #3
@Dr. Octopus #5
@Dan Lambskin #6
@Yo Mama #6
@Pip's Invitation #7
@higgins #9
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #13
@BrutalPenguin #13
@jwb #14
@Tau837 #33
@Juxtatarot #41


Animals is the tenth studio album by the English rock band Pink Floyd, released on 21 January 1977, by Harvest Records and Columbia Records. It was produced by the band at their new studio, Britannia Row Studios, in London throughout 1976. The album continued the long-form compositions of Pink Floyd's previous works, such as Meddle (1971) and Wish You Were Here (1975).

Animals is another concept album by Pink Floyd, that focuses on the sociopolitical conditions of mid-1970s Britain. Tensions during the recording culminated in the resignation of the keyboardist, Richard Wright, two years after the album's release. The cover, conceived by the bassist and lead songwriter, Roger Waters, and designed by their long-time collaborator Storm Thorgerson, shows an inflatable pig floating between two chimneys of Battersea Power Station.

So why is this

15. Animals – Pink Floyd (770 points)

@Mookie Gizzy #1
@zamboni #2
@KarmaPolice #3
@Dr. Octopus #5
@Dan Lambskin #6
@Yo Mama #6
@Pip's Invitation #7
@higgins #9
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #13
@BrutalPenguin #13
@jwb #14
@Tau837 #33
@Juxtatarot #41


Animals is the tenth studio album by the English rock band Pink Floyd, released on 21 January 1977, by Harvest Records and Columbia Records. It was produced by the band at their new studio, Britannia Row Studios, in London throughout 1976. The album continued the long-form compositions of Pink Floyd's previous works, such as Meddle (1971) and Wish You Were Here (1975).

Animals is another concept album by Pink Floyd, that focuses on the sociopolitical conditions of mid-1970s Britain. Tensions during the recording culminated in the resignation of the keyboardist, Richard Wright, two years after the album's release. The cover, conceived by the bassist and lead songwriter, Roger Waters, and designed by their long-time collaborator Storm Thorgerson, shows an inflatable pig floating between two chimneys of Battersea Power Station.

so why is this the album for me? It’s a difficult album to get into. You’re not going to hear anything on the radio. There’s no chorus to sing along to. It’s a dark album. From the album cover to the Amimal Farm allegory, which especially now rings true. Gilmour’s guitars were never better than, especially on Dogs. I can’t even play this song on my stereo anymore because it scares my 2 year old puppy. Water’s lyrics on Pigs taking on the British political system of the day. No , Whitehouse is not about the U.S. , but yeah, it could be. And on Sheep they throw Wright a bone and let him do a little something. He would subsequently get the sack. It’s a short album that seems longer due to the instrumental interludes in the songs. I’m probably not going to listen to it today on a beautiful sunny day, but the next cold, rainy day I’ll put my headphones on and crank it.

Who was born in a house full of pain?

 

[Ilov80s]

Guessing a certain Irish band will grab the №1 ranking.

I’ve been waiting for The Cranberries to show up.

God I wish that would be so much better

 

[Ilov80s]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

Jeb #1
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #5
@zamboni #6
@Snoopy #7
@timschochet #8
@New Binky the Doormat #9
@Atomic Punk #10
@Long Ball Larry #13
@Scoresman #19
@Idiot Boxer #19
@Dwayne_Castro #28
@ConstruxBoy #30
@Tau837 #35
@Ghost Rider #46
@Pip's Invitation #52
@simey #55
@turnjose7 #67

The Beatles, commonly referred to as the White Album, is the ninth studio album and only double album by the English rock band the Beatles, released on 22 November 1968. Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed. This was intended as a direct contrast to the vivid cover artwork of the band's previous LP, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). The Beatles is recognized for its fragmentary style and diverse range of genres, including folk, country rock, British blues, ska, music hall, hard rock, psychedelia and avant-garde. It has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, and is retrospectively widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. The album was the band's first LP release on their then-recently founded Apple Records after previous albums were released on Parlophone in the United Kingdom and Capitol Records in the United States.

This is likely to be one of my favorites to appear in the final run of albums. I love how random it is. It took awhile to grow on me but I get the hype now and am glad to see it land where it did

 

[Ilov80s]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

Jeb #1
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #5
@zamboni #6
@Snoopy #7
@timschochet #8
@New Binky the Doormat #9
@Atomic Punk #10
@Long Ball Larry #13
@Scoresman #19
@Idiot Boxer #19
@Dwayne_Castro #28
@ConstruxBoy #30
@Tau837 #35
@Ghost Rider #46
@Pip's Invitation #52
@simey #55
@turnjose7 #67

The Beatles, commonly referred to as the White Album, is the ninth studio album and only double album by the English rock band the Beatles, released on 22 November 1968. Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed. This was intended as a direct contrast to the vivid cover artwork of the band's previous LP, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). The Beatles is recognized for its fragmentary style and diverse range of genres, including folk, country rock, British blues, ska, music hall, hard rock, psychedelia and avant-garde. It has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, and is retrospectively widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. The album was the band's first LP release on their then-recently founded Apple Records after previous albums were released on Parlophone in the United Kingdom and Capitol Records in the United States.

My kitchen wall:

https://imgur.com/a/Kd6vxPE

Good looking family you have there.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Re: Pink Floyd, I’m not surprised Animals was ranked. I’m quite surprised that it was ranked this highly, as I thought it wasn’t as strong as their top three. I wound up deciding between this one and Meddle, as I didn’t rank more than four albums for any artist, which is why this one and Physical Graffiti didn’t make my list. Both are clearly deserving, and at least I know that I helped get Meddle ranked.

When people talk Pink Floyd’s “big three”, I would think that included Animals but it seems to most, it does not.

When I've seen the big three referenced, it's mostly skipping Animals. I think at least part of the reason is that it had no big radio hits. I like Animals much better than one of the big three that I'm sure is coming.

It’s definitely not a radio-friendly album, with two acoustic songs under 2 minutes and three prog epics each longer than 10 minutes.

Gilmour ignored it when creating the setlists for his version of Floyd in the late 80s and 90s. Probably because he associated it with Waters taking complete control of the band, and representing it would have taken up at least 10 minutes of the show. He also ignored The Final Cut. As for The Wall, you can’t call yourself Pink Floyd and not play Another Brick 2, Comfortably Numb or Run Like Hell, and two of those he had a hand in writing and/or singing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

Jeb #1
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #5
@zamboni #6
@Snoopy #7
@timschochet #8
@New Binky the Doormat #9
@Atomic Punk #10
@Long Ball Larry #13
@Scoresman #19
@Idiot Boxer #19
@Dwayne_Castro #28
@ConstruxBoy #30
@Tau837 #35
@Ghost Rider #46
@Pip's Invitation #52
@simey #55
@turnjose7 #67

The Beatles, commonly referred to as the White Album, is the ninth studio album and only double album by the English rock band the Beatles, released on 22 November 1968. Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed. This was intended as a direct contrast to the vivid cover artwork of the band's previous LP, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). The Beatles is recognized for its fragmentary style and diverse range of genres, including folk, country rock, British blues, ska, music hall, hard rock, psychedelia and avant-garde. It has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, and is retrospectively widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. The album was the band's first LP release on their then-recently founded Apple Records after previous albums were released on Parlophone in the United Kingdom and Capitol Records in the United States.

My kitchen wall:

https://imgur.com/a/Kd6vxPE

Good looking family you have there.

Unfortunately I look the most like Ringo.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

I’m interested in what you guys think are the best deeper cuts on London Calling.

I listened to it the first time the other day. I’ve always liked the songs I’ve known from the radio and liked a Big Audio Dynamite album back in the day. They are a band that seem like they should be in my wheelhouse. However, the album didn’t click with me on first listen. I’d like give it another shot but a strategic skipping around might work better for me.

I have the same opinion and I’ve listened to it many times.

I don’t dislike it but I like two other Clash albums more than LC.

 

[Ilov80s]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

Jeb #1
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #5
@zamboni #6
@Snoopy #7
@timschochet #8
@New Binky the Doormat #9
@Atomic Punk #10
@Long Ball Larry #13
@Scoresman #19
@Idiot Boxer #19
@Dwayne_Castro #28
@ConstruxBoy #30
@Tau837 #35
@Ghost Rider #46
@Pip's Invitation #52
@simey #55
@turnjose7 #67

The Beatles, commonly referred to as the White Album, is the ninth studio album and only double album by the English rock band the Beatles, released on 22 November 1968. Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed. This was intended as a direct contrast to the vivid cover artwork of the band's previous LP, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). The Beatles is recognized for its fragmentary style and diverse range of genres, including folk, country rock, British blues, ska, music hall, hard rock, psychedelia and avant-garde. It has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, and is retrospectively widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. The album was the band's first LP release on their then-recently founded Apple Records after previous albums were released on Parlophone in the United Kingdom and Capitol Records in the United States.

My kitchen wall:

https://imgur.com/a/Kd6vxPE

Good looking family you have there.

Unfortunately I look the most like Ringo.

Honestly, it's better than John. Maybe that is blasphemy because he's so iconic but he was the least attractive Beatle and he had the worst personality.

 

[simey]

It's not original in the least. And originality is certainly something to factor into one's decision about where to rank an album.

One of my favorite albums has no original songs by the artist on it, but it was groundbreaking, and this gender blending album had one of the biggest, if not the biggest, impact on country music ever. It made a huge impact on music in general by not staying in one lane, and showing that so many genres are so much the same. That album is Ray Charles' Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music. It was so successful Ray made a Vol. 2 a few months later.

Led Zeppelin 1 does have some originals, and the covers are totally redone by them. Their versions are different, and in a great way. The members have spoken about their early days, and being young and naive, and not knowing the proper protocol on crediting writers. A lot of artists adapted melodies and lyrics from old timey blues songs back in those days. They got sued and learned the hard way. Anyway, I dig the album and put it on my list. I put Ray's on my list, too.

 

[Mt. Man]

31. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars – David Bowie (576 points)

I listed this as “Ziggy Stardust”, because I’m lazy like that. Anyway, a lot has been (and will be) said on this board about Bowie’s greatness, and naturally I’d agree, especially on this album. Given that, most of the large amount of sentiment I have for it feels like it boils down to "so yeah, I really enjoy every single song”. That might have to suffice.

Eh, I can get into my opinions a little. For me, “Starman” is, well, the star here, simply from being my favorite song from Bowie’s vast catalog. Though I can give no fault to someone preferring “Five Years”, “Moonage Daydream” or “Ziggy Stardust” (technically not the title track), or… well, you get the idea. A relisten helped remind me of the high points of less heralded songs like “It Ain’t Easy” and “Lady Stardust”. I put it #25, but I have to wonder if that’s (personally) too low.

 

[simey]

Most Floyd fans tend to lump Animals into a big four. At least I do, with The Wall being a notch below the other three.

I only wanted to put one on my list, and had a hard time deciding between two of them, so I went with the one that I have the best drug trip memories.

 

[krista4]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

Jeb #1
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #5
@zamboni #6
@Snoopy #7
@timschochet #8
@New Binky the Doormat #9
@Atomic Punk #10
@Long Ball Larry #13
@Scoresman #19
@Idiot Boxer #19
@Dwayne_Castro #28
@ConstruxBoy #30
@Tau837 #35
@Ghost Rider #46
@Pip's Invitation #52
@simey #55
@turnjose7 #67

The Beatles, commonly referred to as the White Album, is the ninth studio album and only double album by the English rock band the Beatles, released on 22 November 1968. Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed. This was intended as a direct contrast to the vivid cover artwork of the band's previous LP, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). The Beatles is recognized for its fragmentary style and diverse range of genres, including folk, country rock, British blues, ska, music hall, hard rock, psychedelia and avant-garde. It has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, and is retrospectively widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. The album was the band's first LP release on their then-recently founded Apple Records after previous albums were released on Parlophone in the United Kingdom and Capitol Records in the United States.

My kitchen wall:

https://imgur.com/a/Kd6vxPE

That is so freaking cool.

I'm very shocked at the placement of the White Album. Not complaining, of course, but it's in the lower half of Beatles records for me, because there are too many songs I just don't like. The highs are very high, though (as were the Beatles at the time). I'll be curious to see which song goes on the playlist.

 

[krista4]

Honestly, it's better than John. Maybe that is blasphemy because he's so iconic but he was the least attractive Beatle and he had the worst personality.

X

 

[Dr. Octopus]

That is so freaking cool.

The pictures came in the original vinyl record package. I had them (unframed) on my college dorm room walls.

After I moved out, when me and my ex split up, I left them behind and my ex and my (her) nieces bought frames and framed them and gave them back to me.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

14. London Calling – The Clash (775 points)

@kupcho1 #1
@Barry2 #1
Jeb #3
@Chaos34 #5
@timschochet #7
@Dr. Octopus #8
@Pip's Invitation #11
@Mister CIA #17
@titusbramble #23
@Nick Vermeil #23
@Don Quixote #28
@SayChowda #29
@rockaction #39
@Eephus #46
@ConstruxBoy #57
@landrys hat #63

London Calling is the third studio album by the English rock band the Clash. It was originally released as a double album in the United Kingdom on 14 December 1979 by CBS Records, and in the United States in January 1980 by Epic Records.

The Clash recorded the album with producer Guy Stevens at Wessex Sound Studios in London over a five- to six-week period starting in August 1979, following a change in management and a period of writer's block for songwriters Joe Strummer and Mick Jones. Bridging a traditional punk rock sound and a new wave aesthetic, London Calling reflects the band's growing interest in styles beyond their punk roots, including reggae, rockabilly, ska, New Orleans R&B, pop, lounge jazz, and hard rock. Lyrical themes include social displacement, unemployment, racial conflict, drug use, and the responsibilities of adulthood.

My favorite album from the punk/post-punk era. The breadth of sounds on this album is stunning, and they are all deployed successfully (unlike on the follow-up album). Like Physical Graffiti, Something/Anything? and Exile on Main Street, this is a tour de force of ambition, execution and diversity. I included the title track on my list for the British Isles countdown, but my favorite non-chalk songs are Clampdown, Spanish Bombs, Lost in the Supermarket, Rudie Can't Fail and Death or Glory.

Speaking of stealing stuff, I'm Not Down sounds an awful lot like Paul Simon's Kodachrome.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

It's not original in the least. And originality is certainly something to factor into one's decision about where to rank an album.

One of my favorite albums has no original songs by the artist on it, but it was groundbreaking, and this gender blending album had one of the biggest, if not the biggest, impact on country music ever. It made a huge impact on music in general by not staying in one lane, and showing that so many genres are so much the same. That album is Ray Charles' Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music. It was so successful Ray made a Vol. 2 a few months later.

Led Zeppelin 1 does have some originals, and the covers are totally redone by them. Their versions are different, and in a great way. The members have spoken about their early days, and being young and naive, and not knowing the proper protocol on crediting writers. A lot of artists adapted melodies and lyrics from old timey blues songs back in those days. They got sued and learned the hard way. Anyway, I dig the album and put it on my list. I put Ray's on my list, too.

You know who did know the protocol? Their manager Peter Grant. Did he say anything? No, because he was an a$$hole.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

12. Ten – Pearl Jam (868 points)

@Tau837 #2
@Mt. Man #5
@ConstruxBoy #6
@MAC_32 #6
@Barry2 #11
@Pip's Invitation #15
@Rand al Thor #17
@Idiot Boxer #21
Jeb #23
@Chaos34 #24
@Ilov80s #27
@Dan Lambskin #29
@Scoresman #31
@BrutalPenguin #32
@Yo Mama #35
@Dwayne_Castro #45
@Dennis Castro #51
@Juxtatarot #52
@zamboni #56
@jwb #66
@Nick Vermeil #70


Ten is the debut studio album by the American rock band Pearl Jam, released on August 27, 1991, through Epic Records. Following the dissolution of their previous band Mother Love Bone in 1990, bassist Jeff Ament and guitarist Stone Gossard began rehearsing with new guitarist Mike McCready. The group recorded a five-song instrumental demo tape that included contributions from Matt Cameron on drums. Copies of the demo were eventually given to drummer Dave Krusen and vocalist Eddie Vedder, both of whom were invited to audition for the band in Seattle. Many of the songs on Ten were instrumental jams or reworked Mother Love Bone songs for which Vedder provided lyrics.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'll post #11 later today and start with the Top 10 tomorrow.

#11 is by a band that has appeared a few times already and fairly recently and are not part of the classic rock recent domination.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I'll post #11 later today and start with the Top 10 tomorrow.

#11 is by a band that has appeared a few times already and fairly recently and are not part of the classic rock recent domination.

OK

 

[FarFromHome]

12. Ten – Pearl Jam (868 points)

@Tau837 #2
@Mt. Man #5
@ConstruxBoy #6
@MAC_32 #6
@Barry2 #11
@Pip's Invitation #15
@Rand al Thor #17
@Idiot Boxer #21
Jeb #23
@Chaos34 #24
@Ilov80s #27
@Dan Lambskin #29
@Scoresman #31
@BrutalPenguin #32
@Yo Mama #35
@Dwayne_Castro #45
@Dennis Castro #51
@Juxtatarot #52
@zamboni #56
@jwb #66
@Nick Vermeil #70


Ten is the debut studio album by the American rock band Pearl Jam, released on August 27, 1991, through Epic Records. Following the dissolution of their previous band Mother Love Bone in 1990, bassist Jeff Ament and guitarist Stone Gossard began rehearsing with new guitarist Mike McCready. The group recorded a five-song instrumental demo tape that included contributions from Matt Cameron on drums. Copies of the demo were eventually given to drummer Dave Krusen and vocalist Eddie Vedder, both of whom were invited to audition for the band in Seattle. Many of the songs on Ten were instrumental jams or reworked Mother Love Bone songs for which Vedder provided lyrics.

At the time and age of this release it really just fueled my adolescent growth. I just found weed. I just found snowboarding. This was just the perfect album at the perfect time. Just an absolute wonderful piece of music. I don't listen to it much anymore, but when my autobiography hits Paramount next summer, you'll find a lot of this album playing in the background as I fight crime.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I'll post #11 later today and start with the Top 10 tomorrow.

#11 is by a band that has appeared a few times already and fairly recently and are not part of the classic rock recent domination.

OK

Yeah, it’s OK for him to step away from his computer for a while. Regular breaks will probably make him fitter, healthier and more productive.

 

[titusbramble]

I'll post #11 later today and start with the Top 10 tomorrow.

#11 is by a band that has appeared a few times already and fairly recently and are not part of the classic rock recent domination.

Say it's OK Computer without saying it's OK Computer?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

Jeb #1
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #5
@zamboni #6
@Snoopy #7
@timschochet #8
@New Binky the Doormat #9
@Atomic Punk #10
@Long Ball Larry #13
@Scoresman #19
@Idiot Boxer #19
@Dwayne_Castro #28
@ConstruxBoy #30
@Tau837 #35
@Ghost Rider #46
@Pip's Invitation #52
@simey #55
@turnjose7 #67

The Beatles, commonly referred to as the White Album, is the ninth studio album and only double album by the English rock band the Beatles, released on 22 November 1968. Featuring a plain white sleeve, the cover contains no graphics or text other than the band's name embossed. This was intended as a direct contrast to the vivid cover artwork of the band's previous LP, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). The Beatles is recognized for its fragmentary style and diverse range of genres, including folk, country rock, British blues, ska, music hall, hard rock, psychedelia and avant-garde. It has since been viewed by some critics as a postmodern work, and is retrospectively widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. The album was the band's first LP release on their then-recently founded Apple Records after previous albums were released on Parlophone in the United Kingdom and Capitol Records in the United States.

There are some absolute bottom-of-the-barrel songs on here. But it makes my top 70 anyway because the most of the other songs are incredibly awesome. Given the ambition, the diversity and the craziness of this record, I think we can say that the '70s begin here. The amazingly successful double albums I mentioned in my London Calling comment wouldn't have happened without this one. This record showed that rock albums didn't have to stick to one style and didn't need to be impeccably edited if the artist didn't want them to be.

There are so many things I'd recommend for the playlist, so I'll just list what made my top 64 in Zegras' Beatles countdown.

2. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Dear Prudence
12. Helter Skelter
20. Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey
23. Blackbird
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Martha My Dear
41. Yer Blues
47. Back in the USSR
50. Sexy Sadie

And I had Hey Jude at #15 and Revolution at #36; they were recorded at the same time but released as a standalone single.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Only #11? So the Irish get their revenge and rank higher in the countdown?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I'll post #11 later today and start with the Top 10 tomorrow.

#11 is by a band that has appeared a few times already and fairly recently and are not part of the classic rock recent domination.

OK

Yeah, it’s OK for him to step away from his computer for a while. Regular breaks will probably make him fitter, healthier and more productive.

If he's lucky, there will be no surprises.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

Only #11?

What a let down.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

12. Ten – Pearl Jam (868 points)

@Tau837 #2
@Mt. Man #5
@ConstruxBoy #6
@MAC_32 #6
@Barry2 #11
@Pip's Invitation #15
@Rand al Thor #17
@Idiot Boxer #21
Jeb #23
@Chaos34 #24
@Ilov80s #27
@Dan Lambskin #29
@Scoresman #31
@BrutalPenguin #32
@Yo Mama #35
@Dwayne_Castro #45
@Dennis Castro #51
@Juxtatarot #52
@zamboni #56
@jwb #66
@Nick Vermeil #70


Ten is the debut studio album by the American rock band Pearl Jam, released on August 27, 1991, through Epic Records. Following the dissolution of their previous band Mother Love Bone in 1990, bassist Jeff Ament and guitarist Stone Gossard began rehearsing with new guitarist Mike McCready. The group recorded a five-song instrumental demo tape that included contributions from Matt Cameron on drums. Copies of the demo were eventually given to drummer Dave Krusen and vocalist Eddie Vedder, both of whom were invited to audition for the band in Seattle. Many of the songs on Ten were instrumental jams or reworked Mother Love Bone songs for which Vedder provided lyrics.

My favorite album by my favorite band. An ex-girlfriend played me the tape on our way to a High School graduation party in the summer of 1991. I was hooked.
I'd lean toward Porch or Why Go for the playlist.

 

[Juxtatarot]

They always talk about a certain song from a band I won’t name that created the shift in popularity to grunge. However, I’ve always thought that the Jeremy video on MTV also played a very significant influence.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

12. Ten – Pearl Jam (868 points)

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@Nick Vermeil #70


Ten is the debut studio album by the American rock band Pearl Jam, released on August 27, 1991, through Epic Records. Following the dissolution of their previous band Mother Love Bone in 1990, bassist Jeff Ament and guitarist Stone Gossard began rehearsing with new guitarist Mike McCready. The group recorded a five-song instrumental demo tape that included contributions from Matt Cameron on drums. Copies of the demo were eventually given to drummer Dave Krusen and vocalist Eddie Vedder, both of whom were invited to audition for the band in Seattle. Many of the songs on Ten were instrumental jams or reworked Mother Love Bone songs for which Vedder provided lyrics.

The best of '70s rock updated for the '90s. And it works as well as it does because of McCready, who may be the best guitarist of his era. His playing is positively explosive, and the diminishing returns after the second album are in part because his playing got less so. I bought the album after seeing the Alive video and going, "what is this? I need to know more." And I played it incessantly until Vs. came out.

Even Flow is my #1 PJ song, and my non-chalk favorites on this record are Why Go, Porch and Release.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Re: Pink Floyd, I’m not surprised Animals was ranked. I’m quite surprised that it was ranked this highly, as I thought it wasn’t as strong as their top three. I wound up deciding between this one and Meddle, as I didn’t rank more than four albums for any artist, which is why this one and Physical Graffiti didn’t make my list. Both are clearly deserving, and at least I know that I helped get Meddle ranked.

When people talk Pink Floyd’s “big three”, I would think that included Animals but it seems to most, it does not.

When I've seen the big three referenced, it's mostly skipping Animals. I think at least part of the reason is that it had no big radio hits. I like Animals much better than one of the big three that I'm sure is coming.

It’s definitely not a radio-friendly album, with two acoustic songs under 2 minutes and three prog epics each longer than 10 minutes.

Gilmour ignored it when creating the setlists for his version of Floyd in the late 80s and 90s. Probably because he associated it with Waters taking complete control of the band, and representing it would have taken up at least 10 minutes of the show. He also ignored The Final Cut. As for The Wall, you can’t call yourself Pink Floyd and not play Another Brick 2, Comfortably Numb or Run Like Hell, and two of those he had a hand in writing and/or singing.

Gilmour has also ignored Animals on every tour as a solo artist since the last Floyd tour, so he obviously has a bad Roger-related association with that record.

 

[rockaction]

I lean towards @rockaction 's take on this in regards to Zep, and I love Zep. But you cannot lift whole verses from someone else's songs, turn the amps to 11, and change the name of the record to a fruit without acknowledging the originator (or, whoever owns the rights) so that they get paid.

I don’t agree with them not crediting others where appropriate. But they obviously did much more than “turn the amps to 11 and change the name of the record.”

Sure, it is reasonable to say the other debuts were more original. That doesn’t mean the music was better.

You just managed to avoid the meat of the argument and give us a total straw man with revamped premises and goalpost shifting.

78% of the runtime (the total time of the tracks) on their debut is universally considered lifted.

It's not original in the least. And originality is certainly something to factor into one's decision about where to rank an album.

If you'd like to debate it, or keep at it—how about debating anything that I said in response?

Because you commented on my comment, and you have no answer for it, so you're going to take Uruk's hyperbole (who was making a sarcastic point not to be taken too literally), make it literal, shift the goalpost, and then make your counterargument???

Dude, don't. Just Win Baby!

I made no strawman and shifted no goalpost.

I'm not interested in debating your argument, and I could not care less about "winning" it. I'm not disputing what you assert Led Zeppelin did. And I don't particularly desire a lecture.

Let me make this as clear as I can for you.

1. "I don’t agree with them not crediting others where appropriate."

2. I think the music on Led Zeppelin I is better than the music on most of the other debut albums. Where they reused other artists' material, IMO they made it better, mostly much better.

3. Everyone is free to use whatever criteria they prefer to rank albums. For me, Led Zeppelin I ranks high. For you it doesn't. That's fine. We're all just posting our individual opinions here.

ETA:

Looking back, I responded to this statement by @rockaction : "I don’t think LZ1 beats any of these. Maybe Meat Loaf and Arcade Fire, but I don’t think necessarily so. LZ got plenty of love here for a hard rock band that borrowed so liberally from others that came before."

I responded with this: "Couldn't disagree more. I like many of these other albums, some quite a lot, but very few warrant being rated in the company of LZI. It's all opinions, so I'll just leave it at that."

I can see that I wasn't clear, which led to this entire tangent. I couldn't disagree more with your first sentence, which is your opinion. That's why I concluded with itls all opinions. As a long time Led Zeppelin fan, I'm aware of all the history you proceeded to post, and it's not something I would disagree with or characterize as opinion.

And I don't particularly desire a lecture.

Yeah.

 

[Gatorade]

13. The Beatles (The White Album) – The Beatles (797 points)

2. While My Guitar Gently Weeps

23. Blackbird

So many good songs on here, but these two are my absolute favorite

 

[Mt. Man]

26. The Cars – The Cars (614 points)

I’ve considered doing The Cars as a M-AD countdown. Mostly the relatively thin catalog (6 albums from 1978 to 1987, plus a reunion album in 2011) stops me. I know there are 31 strong songs in there, though at the same time that’s around half their output. Well, minus live albums and unreleased tracks. Regardless, my point is that if I went through with that, 6-7 songs would be from this album, easily.

There’s the sarcastic, downbeat “Good Times Roll”. The super-catchy “My Best Friend’s Girl” (probably my favorite, if only because the lyric “when you bite your lip, it’s some reaction to love’ is permanently stuck in my brain). “Just What I Needed” and “You’re All I’ve Got Tonight”, which almost seem like paired songs (despite being several tracks apart), or at least two different sides of the same situation. Of course, the latter is more likely paired with its follow-up, “Bye Bye Love”, though personally I separate them more than *cough* some other consecutive songs. Not to mention “Moving in Stereo” which owes some of its fame (if none of its driving beat) to Phoebe Cates, and I’ll even throw some appreciation towards the hard-charging “Dont Cha Stop”.

 

[Ghost Rider]

They always talk about a certain song from a band I won’t name that created the shift in popularity to grunge. However, I’ve always thought that the Jeremy video on MTV also played a very significant influence.

I'll be interested to see how the originality discussion goes when that album inevitably gets featured, considering the main riff of the biggest song (the certain one you seem to be referencing) from the album was a fairly blatant borrowing, shall we say, of Boston's More Than a Feeling.

 

[Mt. Man]

Also, while I'm here and able to be active, I'll state that I'd be good with any of the 11 (that's one better) songs from Ten.
Personal suggestions would be "Alive" or "Black" (roughly in that order). For deeper cuts, I'd favor "Garden" or "Release".

 

[Pip's Invitation]

They always talk about a certain song from a band I won’t name that created the shift in popularity to grunge. However, I’ve always thought that the Jeremy video on MTV also played a very significant influence.

I'll be interested to see how the originality discussion goes when that album inevitably gets featured, considering the main riff of the biggest song (the certain one you seem to be referencing) from the album was a fairly blatant borrowing, shall we say, of Boston's More Than a Feeling.

And More Than a Feeling was a fairly blatant borrowing of The James Gang's Tend My Garden. Go to 1:45 for the most blatant part.

 

[simey]

Honestly, it's better than John. Maybe that is blasphemy because he's so iconic but he was the least attractive Beatle and he had the worst personality.

X

 

[KarmaPolice]

Only #11?

What a let down.

Dan is climbing up the walls over the top 11.

 

[Juxtatarot]

They always talk about a certain song from a band I won’t name that created the shift in popularity to grunge. However, I’ve always thought that the Jeremy video on MTV also played a very significant influence.

I'll be interested to see how the originality discussion goes when that album inevitably gets featured, considering the main riff of the biggest song (the certain one you seem to be referencing) from the album was a fairly blatant borrowing, shall we say, of Boston's More Than a Feeling.

Then there is this:

I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.

 

[Ilov80s]

Honestly, it's better than John. Maybe that is blasphemy because he's so iconic but he was the least attractive Beatle and he had the worst personality.

X

Well ladies John doesn’t do it for me so you can have him. If you need me, George and I will be doing yoga and saving the planet.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

They always talk about a certain song from a band I won’t name that created the shift in popularity to grunge. However, I’ve always thought that the Jeremy video on MTV also played a very significant influence.

I'll be interested to see how the originality discussion goes when that album inevitably gets featured, considering the main riff of the biggest song (the certain one you seem to be referencing) from the album was a fairly blatant borrowing, shall we say, of Boston's More Than a Feeling.

Check out the intro to this song from Australian Crawl from 1982.

Daughters Of The Northern Coast - Remastered

Australian Crawl · Sons Of Beaches (Remastered) · Song · 1982

open.spotify.com

Pretty similar. But I don’t care. I still love the song. I really like the Crawl song too.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I guess many of you saw through my mysterious teaser.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

They always talk about a certain song from a band I won’t name that created the shift in popularity to grunge. However, I’ve always thought that the Jeremy video on MTV also played a very significant influence.

I'll be interested to see how the originality discussion goes when that album inevitably gets featured, considering the main riff of the biggest song (the certain one you seem to be referencing) from the album was a fairly blatant borrowing, shall we say, of Boston's More Than a Feeling.

Then there is this:

I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.

When that song was played live, it sounded exactly like a Pixies song. The way it sounded on record was more due to producer Butch Vig and mixer Andy Wallace.

 

[rockaction]

I think people missed the point where it was my subjective concern and that people could take it how they wanted but it was my opinion. There is no standard set. And I didn’t vote for the Pixie Stealing Mother****ers (it’s a play on their first shirt).

And I personally would say it’s not six out of nine songs and that “More Than A Feeling” sounds a touch like it, but the “borrowing” is radically different. And I’m not setting any standard but Zeppelin is sui generis.

And you can feel any way your heart wants about them. But that’s like, my opinion, man. There was no lecture. Not even close. You just felt like it because it’s so resounding, Just Win Baby. And this is the typical “motive” or “personal” debate tactic I hate so much and is why I will indeed be much more infrequent in a lot of areas.