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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 55. Blood On The Tracks – Bob Dylan (319 Viewers)

Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine
– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
 
Debut Albums that finished ahead of Led Zeppelin’s Debut Album



56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

64. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground & Nico (340 points)

67. Bat out of Hell – Meatloaf (332 points)

69 (tie). The Doors – The Doors (328 points)

69 (tie). Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes (328 points)

72 (tie). Marquee Moon – Television (323 points)

77. Funeral – Arcade Fire (305 points)

82. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin (286 points)
Don’t forget that Skynyrd moved up, or were you dreading using all those special characters?
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
 
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56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Debaser is my personal favorite but any of the songs work for me. One great song bleeds into another---15 songs in 39 minutes.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
 
56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

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Rage Against the Machine is the debut studio album by American rock band Rage Against the Machine. It was released on November 6, 1992, by Epic Records, four days after the release of the album's first single, "Killing in the Name". The album was based largely on the band's first commercial demo tape of the same name, completed 11 months prior to the album's release. The tape contained earlier recordings of seven of the ten songs.
This is such an amazing album. I remember my older brother getting it for Christmas and I was like wow that dudes on fire. I don’t think I got into it until a few years later because I was still pretty heavy into rap / hip hop at that time

I don’t think there’s a bad song on that album and it’s hard to pick a favorite

Bombtrack is such a great opener and sets the tone for the album

And who doesn’t like singing along to Killing In The Name Of

Love the intensity of Bullet in the Head

Know Your Enemy gets us another album featuring Maynard. Suck it Neil Young

Id probably pick between Killing or Freedom if it was me

It's set up like a deck of cards
They're sending us to early graves for all the diamonds
They'll use a pair of clubs to beat the spades
With poetry, I paint the pictures that hit
More like the murals that fit
Don't turn away, get in front of it
Brother, did ya forget ya name?
Did ya lose it on the wall playing Tic-Tac-Toe?
Yo, check the diagonal, three brothers gone, come on
Doesn't that make it three in a row?
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
 
My wife did not like this Wire song - untitled


I’m surprised she made it 10 minutes
 
My wife did not like this Wire song - untitled


I’m surprised she made it 10 minutes

Oh dear word. I made it to 3:20. I don’t know why they’d release that. I blame Barry2 for that. He voted for that awful band.

It’s probably a good thing that some of my one-vote albums only got one vote, or there’d be a lot of songs from very strange bands on the playlist. Nah, I’m not really that off the beaten path. Mogwai is as weird as I get. Well, billy woods is odd and a bit abstract also.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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@titusbramble #26

Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Hey would be my vote.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Hey would be my vote.

That's two for Hey. I love that one as well - bonus that you get some Kim vocal there too. Hey it is.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Very fair, that one does stick out a bit. So much so, I would have put good money on it being a cover. :bag:
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Very fair, that one does stick out a bit. So much so, I would have put good money on it being a cover. :bag:
No wonder you hated it.
 
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60. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road – Elton John (352 points)

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Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is the seventh studio album by English singer, pianist, and composer Elton John. A double album, it was released on 5 October 1973, by DJM Records. Recorded at the Château d'Hérouville in France, the album became a double LP once John and his band became inspired by the locale. Among the 17 tracks, the album contains the hits "Candle in the Wind", US number-one single "Bennie and the Jets", "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road", and "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting", along with the live favorites "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" and "All the Girls Love Alice".
Another one that I would have been in my top ten had I ranked. That album is loaded with great songs.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Very fair, that one does stick out a bit. So much so, I would have put good money on it being a cover. :bag:
No wonder you hated it.
Lol. No, I like that one fine, more that I thought it stuck out a bit on the album, so much so that I didn't know it was them (I have heard that song many times of course) and when I was looking around checked to see if it was a cover.
 
My wife did not like this Wire song - untitled


I’m surprised she made it 10 minutes

Oh dear word. I made it to 3:20. I don’t know why they’d release that. I blame Barry2 for that. He voted for that awful band.

It’s probably a good thing that some of my one-vote albums only got one vote, or there’d be a lot of songs from very strange bands on the playlist. Nah, I’m not really that off the beaten path. Mogwai is as weird as I get. Well, billy woods is odd and a bit abstract also.
How about Schpongle?
 
Dang. I'm always a half-step behind the cool kids. I picked a different album than Doolittle. It was a lower-ranked one on my list and I had a distinct feeling when I picked it that it wouldn't make it, but it was the one that got me into the band. In my estimation, it's a great record.

"Here Comes Your Man" has that "A Hard Day's Night" type of chord at the beginning, and after a few years of post-collegiate taste where they got shunted to the side, I got into the band again after I saw the video out one night with my friends and they were all singing it. I used to have diverse groups of friends (look at me!) and this group of cats were not the type of guys to be listening to the Pixies (think of the kind of guys that voluntarily go to places on Saturday night that have relatively strict dress codes—they aren't just "no jeans falling down around your ankles or Timberland boots or white kid mullets and Orange Sunkist-stained, ribbed tank tops"—no, you have to dress up, to which I'd say, "If I wanted to go to work I'd go there and get **** done"). Anyway, I started listening again to them and realized that it was deviant pop music and that alternative and indie had migrated, which was cool by me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But "Hey" is a great song, although I'm surprised you all didn't pick Surfer Rosa. I mean, Doolittle was considered their best but I think it's their third-best album. I'm a big fan of Trompe Le Monde because that's the record that got me into them at nineteen. That one may or may not have been my Pixies pick. The lyrics on that Trompe record are my favorite of almost any rock record I can think of. It's rarely a thing with me, but those lyrics in particular are whip-smart, funny, absurdist exercises in rock songwriting that tell interesting narratives. Plus for someone who missed the Jesus and Mary Chain because they were a few years before my adolescence, "Head On" is a great cover and introduction. So yeah, it was #64 on my list.

If I had to vote for a song it would be between "Where Is My Mind?" (of course), "Gigantic," (love Kim in a very platonic way, actually), and "U-Mass" (hey man, I grew up near Amherst—we used to play them in youth hockey, darn it). But "Hey" is sublime. They've got quite the deep catalog.
 
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My wife did not like this Wire song - untitled


I’m surprised she made it 10 minutes

Oh dear word. I made it to 3:20. I don’t know why they’d release that. I blame Barry2 for that. He voted for that awful band.

It’s probably a good thing that some of my one-vote albums only got one vote, or there’d be a lot of songs from very strange bands on the playlist. Nah, I’m not really that off the beaten path. Mogwai is as weird as I get. Well, billy woods is odd and a bit abstract also.
How about Schpongle?

Are You Shpongled?

eta* I just zoned out writing and listened for ten minutes or so. It wasn't bad at all. Shpongle!
 
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56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Hey would be my vote.

That's two for Hey. I love that one as well - bonus that you get some Kim vocal there too. Hey it is.
Hey is great. I do love me some Kim Deal.
 
Dang. I'm always a half-step behind the cool kids. I picked a different album than Doolittle. It was a lower-ranked one on my list and I had a distinct feeling when I picked it that it wouldn't make it, but it was the one that got me into the band. In my estimation, it's a great record.

"Here Comes Your Man" has that "A Hard Day's Night" type of chord at the beginning, and after a few years of post-collegiate taste where they got shunted to the side, I got into the band again after I saw the video out one night with my friends and they were all singing it. I used to have diverse groups of friends (look at me!) and this group of cats were not the type of guys to be listening to the Pixies (think of the kind of guys that voluntarily go to places on Saturday night that have relatively strict dress codes—they aren't just "no jeans falling down around your ankles or Timberland boots or white kid mullets and Orange Sunkist-stained, ribbed tank tops"—no, you have to dress up, to which I'd say, "If I wanted to go to work I'd go there and get **** done"). Anyway, I started listening again to them and realized that it was deviant pop music and that alternative and indie had migrated, which was cool by me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But "Hey" is a great song, although I'm surprised you all didn't pick Surfer Rosa. I mean, Doolittle was considered their best but I think it's their third-best album. I'm a big fan of Trompe Le Monde because that's the record that got me into them at nineteen. That one may or may not have been my Pixies pick. The lyrics on that Trompe record are my favorite of almost any rock record I can think of. It's rarely a thing with me, but those lyrics in particular are whip-smart, funny, and are absurdist exercises in rock songwriting that tell interesting narratives. Plus for someone who missed the Jesus and Mary Chain because they were a few years before my adolescence, "Head On" is a great cover and introduction. So yeah, it was #64 on my list.

If I had to vote for a song it would be between "Where Is My Mind?" (of course), "Gigantic," (love Kim in a very platonic way, actually), and "U-Mass" (hey man, I grew up near Amherst—we used to play them in youth hockey, darn it). But "Hey" is sublime. They've got quite the deep catalog.
Trompe Le Monde is my 2nd favorite Pixies. U-Mass would've been my song choice. Love the JAMC cover too.

Surfer Rosa is a close 3rd. Gigantic, Vamos and Where Is My Mind would be song choices.

I don't think those 2 albums don't have the consistency of Doolittle, though.
 
Obviously I’m a huge fan of- just a monster album. This has been in my musical rotation since it came out and stays that way today.

This has 3 of my favorite 5-6 Metallica songs (including my #1) - Master, Sanitarium, Disposable Heroes. Now if could just get Mt. Man to stop outranking me on all my top albums I can actually pick a song.

Stranger Things was the last show my family would all watch together (at the same time on the same screen even). When the first chord of Master of Puppets came on in the most recentish season, my kids made fun of me for the loud kool-aid man Oh Yeah that I shouted out.

Yeah, sorry. I might have shown my hand as a Metallica fan. Anyway, let's play the game!

Album Ranking:
1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. AFJA
4. Black Album. 5. Kill 'Em All. I could flip these two depending on mood
I'd probably put Garage Inc. and S&M next, then Load, 72 Seasons, Death Magnetic, Reload, Hardwired, and finally in 70th place, St. Anger.

Master of Puppets song ranking:
1. Master of Puppets
2. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
3. Disposable Heroes
4. Orion 5. Battery . Again, should switch these pretty easily.
6. Leper Messiah
7. Damage, Inc.
8. The Thing That Should Not Be. This is more a case of "something's got to be 8th".

I'll probably go with the title track, but I wouldn't have a problem with any of at least the first 3.
 
Dang. I'm always a half-step behind the cool kids. I picked a different album than Doolittle. It was a lower-ranked one on my list and I had a distinct feeling when I picked it that it wouldn't make it, but it was the one that got me into the band. In my estimation, it's a great record.

"Here Comes Your Man" has that "A Hard Day's Night" type of chord at the beginning, and after a few years of post-collegiate taste where they got shunted to the side, I got into the band again after I saw the video out one night with my friends and they were all singing it. I used to have diverse groups of friends (look at me!) and this group of cats were not the type of guys to be listening to the Pixies (think of the kind of guys that voluntarily go to places on Saturday night that have relatively strict dress codes—they aren't just "no jeans falling down around your ankles or Timberland boots or white kid mullets and Orange Sunkist-stained, ribbed tank tops"—no, you have to dress up, to which I'd say, "If I wanted to go to work I'd go there and get **** done"). Anyway, I started listening again to them and realized that it was deviant pop music and that alternative and indie had migrated, which was cool by me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But "Hey" is a great song, although I'm surprised you all didn't pick Surfer Rosa. I mean, Doolittle was considered their best but I think it's their third-best album. I'm a big fan of Trompe Le Monde because that's the record that got me into them at nineteen. That one may or may not have been my Pixies pick. The lyrics on that Trompe record are my favorite of almost any rock record I can think of. It's rarely a thing with me, but those lyrics in particular are whip-smart, funny, and are absurdist exercises in rock songwriting that tell interesting narratives. Plus for someone who missed the Jesus and Mary Chain because they were a few years before my adolescence, "Head On" is a great cover and introduction. So yeah, it was #64 on my list.

If I had to vote for a song it would be between "Where Is My Mind?" (of course), "Gigantic," (love Kim in a very platonic way, actually), and "U-Mass" (hey man, I grew up near Amherst—we used to play them in youth hockey, darn it). But "Hey" is sublime. They've got quite the deep catalog.
Trompe Le Monde is my 2nd favorite Pixies. U-Mass would've been my song choice. Love the JAMC cover too.

Surfer Rosa is a close 3rd. Gigantic, Vamos and Where Is My Mind would be song choices.

I don't think those 2 albums don't have the consistency of Doolittle, though.
Your rankings are probably the same as mine. I say "probably" because the CD I bought had both Surfer Rosa and Come On Pilgrim on it and to this day I get confused which songs are on which album.
 
Dang. I'm always a half-step behind the cool kids. I picked a different album than Doolittle. It was a lower-ranked one on my list and I had a distinct feeling when I picked it that it wouldn't make it, but it was the one that got me into the band. In my estimation, it's a great record.

"Here Comes Your Man" has that "A Hard Day's Night" type of chord at the beginning, and after a few years of post-collegiate taste where they got shunted to the side, I got into the band again after I saw the video out one night with my friends and they were all singing it. I used to have diverse groups of friends (look at me!) and this group of cats were not the type of guys to be listening to the Pixies (think of the kind of guys that voluntarily go to places on Saturday night that have relatively strict dress codes—they aren't just "no jeans falling down around your ankles or Timberland boots or white kid mullets and Orange Sunkist-stained, ribbed tank tops"—no, you have to dress up, to which I'd say, "If I wanted to go to work I'd go there and get **** done"). Anyway, I started listening again to them and realized that it was deviant pop music and that alternative and indie had migrated, which was cool by me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But "Hey" is a great song, although I'm surprised you all didn't pick Surfer Rosa. I mean, Doolittle was considered their best but I think it's their third-best album. I'm a big fan of Trompe Le Monde because that's the record that got me into them at nineteen. That one may or may not have been my Pixies pick. The lyrics on that Trompe record are my favorite of almost any rock record I can think of. It's rarely a thing with me, but those lyrics in particular are whip-smart, funny, and are absurdist exercises in rock songwriting that tell interesting narratives. Plus for someone who missed the Jesus and Mary Chain because they were a few years before my adolescence, "Head On" is a great cover and introduction. So yeah, it was #64 on my list.

If I had to vote for a song it would be between "Where Is My Mind?" (of course), "Gigantic," (love Kim in a very platonic way, actually), and "U-Mass" (hey man, I grew up near Amherst—we used to play them in youth hockey, darn it). But "Hey" is sublime. They've got quite the deep catalog.
Trompe Le Monde is my 2nd favorite Pixies. U-Mass would've been my song choice. Love the JAMC cover too.

Surfer Rosa is a close 3rd. Gigantic, Vamos and Where Is My Mind would be song choices.

I don't think those 2 albums don't have the consistency of Doolittle, though.
Your rankings are probably the same as mine. I say "probably" because the CD I bought had both Surfer Rosa and Come On Pilgrim on it and to this day I get confused which songs are on which album.

:laugh:
 
Chalk up Rage Against the Machine as underrated on the countdown by me with only 14 points. I just haven't listened to it as much lately, but it's such an outstanding album. I cranked this up after revisiting Sufjan Stevens' Illinois, so that was a lovely transition. My favorites are Killing in the Name and Know Your Enemy, but another I don't think gets as much love is Township Rebellion. Love the opening groove to that one.

I have lost track of others, but I know at least Rage and Lateralus are two albums I have been reminded to get back in my rotation thanks to this countdown.
 
Stranger Things was the last show my family would all watch together (at the same time on the same screen even). When the first chord of Master of Puppets came on in the most recentish season, my kids made fun of me for the loud kool-aid man Oh Yeah that I shouted out.
Love that scene so much - Eddie was the best.
There was a cool behind the scenes video of all the intense practice the actor had to do just to make the guitar solo look semi-realistic.
 
56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

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Rage Against the Machine is the debut studio album by American rock band Rage Against the Machine. It was released on November 6, 1992, by Epic Records, four days after the release of the album's first single, "Killing in the Name". The album was based largely on the band's first commercial demo tape of the same name, completed 11 months prior to the album's release. The tape contained earlier recordings of seven of the ten songs.
Wow - two heavy hitters from my top ten revealed today between this and Master of Puppets.

Rage hit me like a bomb (track?) when this came out. Such an awesome, unique sound that hit all my hard rock and hip hop sweet spots.

I’m thinking about doing a RATM / Tom Morello countdown the next time we do a MAD round, but the main thing holding me back is trying to figure out how to rank the songs. So many great ones on this album.
 
56 (tie). Rage Against The Machine– Rage Against The Machine (366 points)

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Rage Against the Machine is the debut studio album by American rock band Rage Against the Machine. It was released on November 6, 1992, by Epic Records, four days after the release of the album's first single, "Killing in the Name". The album was based largely on the band's first commercial demo tape of the same name, completed 11 months prior to the album's release. The tape contained earlier recordings of seven of the ten songs.
Wow - two heavy hitters from my top ten revealed today between this and Master of Puppets.

Rage hit me like a bomb (track?) when this came out. Such an awesome, unique sound that hit all my hard rock and hip hop sweet spots.

I’m thinking about doing a RATM / Tom Morello countdown the next time we do a MAD round, but the main thing holding me back is trying to figure out how to rank the songs. So many great ones on this album.

Pretty sure we do it from 31 to 1, gb. ;)

Love the idea for your artist!
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Hey would be my vote.

That's two for Hey. I love that one as well - bonus that you get some Kim vocal there too. Hey it is.
Hey is great. I do love me some Kim Deal.
Her newest album is very good - very orchestral and theatrical musically yet mellow. I saw her at the Stone Pony, touring in support of her new album, about a year ago. Her band sounded great. Fun show.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Hey would be my vote.

That's two for Hey. I love that one as well - bonus that you get some Kim vocal there too. Hey it is.
Hey is great. I do love me some Kim Deal.
Her newest album is very good - very orchestral and theatrical musically yet mellow. I saw her at the Stone Pony, touring in support of her new album, about a year ago. Her band sounded great. Fun show.
I’ve never seen a show at the Stone Pony, but a few years ago, I was in Asbury Park and I knocked on the door around 11 AM. Whoever was there was nice enough to let me in, have a look around, and take some pictures. So much history. I hope I get to see a show there someday. I wear the T-shirt I got that day all the time.
 
56 (tie). Doolittle – The Pixies (366 points)

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Doolittle is the second studio album by the American alternative rock band Pixies, released on April 17, 1989, on 4AD. The album was an instant critical success and became the band's breakthrough album. Doolittle was especially well received in Europe, where the British music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it their album of the year. Pixies' main songwriter and lead vocalist Black Francis wrote the idiosyncratic lyrics, which allude to surrealist imagery, biblical violence, and descriptions of torture and death.

The album is praised for its "quiet/loud" dynamic, which was achieved through subdued verses that are founded on Kim Deal's bass patterns and David Lovering's drums. The peaks in tone and volume were achieved through the addition of distorted guitars by Francis and Joey Santiago. This technique influenced the development of early-1990s grunge music; Kurt Cobain said Doolittle was one of his favorite records and that its songs heavily influenced Nirvana's song "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

I'm good with No. 13 Baby for the playlist. How do you other folks feel?

I wish that outro went on for an hour. Here's a fan-made version that extends the outro.
Oh, I might go with something a little more accessible for those who don’t really know the Pixies that well. Then again, I forgot to put this on.my list, so my opinion really doesn’t matter.
There are accessible tracks on this album? ;)

I'll be honest Debaser is a reason I never explored the album anymore in the past, but today I listened to it and liked a handful of songs so I am glad I stuck with it. I really dug Wave of Mutilation. I hear the Nirvana influences, but I am also not a fan of theirs, so it stands to reason that I might not fully click with their heroes and influences much either.
Here Comes Your Man is pretty accessible and gets played on the radio a lot given the relative obscurity of the band :shrug:

It’s a fine song but well down the list of my favorites from Doolittle.
Hey would be my vote.

That's two for Hey. I love that one as well - bonus that you get some Kim vocal there too. Hey it is.
Hey is great. I do love me some Kim Deal.
Her newest album is very good - very orchestral and theatrical musically yet mellow. I saw her at the Stone Pony, touring in support of her new album, about a year ago. Her band sounded great. Fun show.

Kim's latest is one of the final albums recorded and engineered by Steve Albini
 
Metallica's only complete album is Master of Puppets and is also their best song. I like a lot of their songs but the only album played front to back is Master.
The difference between Metallica when they were great and then everything after 1989 is not just the sound of their guitars or whatever; they fundamentally and deliberately changed the way they wrote music and who they wrote it for. The masses and Clear Channel love 4/4 time. Bon Jovi is in 4/4. Motley Crue is in 4/4. Candlebox is 4/4. Only weird musicians and nerds enjoy bands that have weird time changes in their songs (nobody better at doing this and being commercially successful than Rush). But Metallica used to mix it up because they were great musicians and they were writing great and challenging songs.

Here's the time signatures for some of the early Metallica songs:

“Blackened” 4/4 intro that cycles through 3/4 and 4/4 and 5/4, then drops into 7/4 and 6/4 for the verse; choruses snap back to 4/4 with two-beat 2/4 tag bars.
“…And Justice for All” Main riff is in 5/4; verses flip between 4/4 and 3/4, and a 2/4 “catch-breath” often appears at the end of the motif.
“Eye of the Beholder” Switches between straight 4/4 in the verses and an off-kilter 5/4 (some sheet music shows it as 12/8 + 15/8) throughout the chorus section.
“One” Opens in 4/4, moves to 3/4 for the clean verses, injects occasional 2/4 bars, shifts to 6/4 in the bridge, then finishes the double-kick finale in fast 4/4 (felt as cut-time 2/2).
“The Frayed Ends of Sanity” Nominally 4/4, but has a parade of cut-and-paste two-beat (2/4) and seven-beat (7/4) bars
"Battery” – 3/4 intro; main riff 4/4; verses insert a single-bar 2/4 tag every four bars; two isolated 3/4 measures appear during the solo.
“The Four Horsemen” – verses / choruses 4/4; middle “gallop” section mixes in 12/8 before returning to 4/4.
“Fade to Black” – 4/4 with scattered single-bar 2/4 pickups; bridge is 6/4; ending double-time still counted 4/4.
“Fight Fire with Fire” – classical intro 12/8; main part 4/4; pre-chorus trims one bar to 3/4 before landing back in common time.
“For Whom the Bell Tolls” – opening bell riff felt in 3/4 (some write it 12/8); crashes into 4/4 under the solo and ride-out.
“Jump in the Fire” – mid-tempo 4/4 throughout; each chorus has a two-beat 2/4 pickup bar.
“Master of Puppets” – intro/verse: seven bars 4/4 plus one bar 7/8 (you may see some versions where they just call it 15/16); pre-chorus alternates 4/4 and 3/4
“Motorbreath” – 4/4 except for a single 2/4 bar each cycle in the chorus.
“No Remorse” – verses are 4/4, but there's one accent bar of 6/4 just before the final solo break; the fast outro is cut-time and arguably 2/2
“Orion” – first riff 4/4; mid-section bass melody 6/8, throw in one 3/4 bar just for fun, the final is 4/4 with a single 5/4 turnaround.
“Phantom Lord” – verses / choruses 4/4; clean mid-section is 12/8 for sixteen bars, then back to 4/4.
“Ride the Lightning” – verse riff 4/4; pre-chorus alternates 4/4 with 3/4; slow solo section is 6/4; outro returns to 4/4.
“The Thing That Should Not Be” – verse 4/4; pre-chorus drops a bar of 2/4; breakdown adds two bars of 3/4 before restoring 4/4.
“Welcome Home (Sanitarium)” – clean intro/verse follows 6/4, 6/4 , 4/4 pattern; chorus stays 4/4; bridge clips a bar to 3/4; fast finale resumes 4/4.
“Whiplash” – mostly 4/4, but pre-chorus lurches for a single bar of 3/4 every fourth line.


Now here is the time signature for every song on "The Black Album" (except Nothing Else Matters which stays at a consistently plodding 3/4):

4/4.

That's it. Every song. From start to finish. Freaking steady 4/4 all the way through. Like the Kingsmen or Def Leppard. The Black album and beyond reflected a deliberate change in the way they wrote music, and I think it's fair to conclude that they wanted to make more money by being more accessible to the masses. AKA: sell out. Now if you truly like the Black album and all the other stuff after (the worst I've heard has to be that song about a candle in the window lights the way home), that's cool and I don't judge. But for people like me that used to love Metallica in high school and then couldn't stand them afterwards, I hope this helps shed some light on why that may be.
 
61. Full Moon Fever – Tom Petty (351 points)

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Full Moon Fever is the debut solo studio album by American musician Tom Petty, released on April 24, 1989, by MCA Records. It features contributions from members of his band the Heartbreakers, notably Mike Campbell, as well as Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison (who died prior to its release), and George Harrison, Petty's bandmates in the Traveling Wilburys. The record showcases Petty exploring his musical roots with nods to his influences. The songwriting primarily consists of collaborations between Petty and Lynne, who was also a producer on the album. Full Moon Fever became a commercial and critical success, peaking at No. 3 on the U.S. Billboard 200 and being certified 5× platinum in the United States and 6× platinum in Canada.

Easily my favorite Tom Petty album. All the others have songs I like/love, but don't hold my attention for a full album - this one keeps jamming all the way through. I think the reason is for me this feels like, well, more than just a Tom Petty album - it feels like Full Moon Fever by Charlie T. Wilbury Jr., and I always can feel that Wilbury influence.

,,,well, I just listed to the whole album again to pick a playlist song, and at first I only managed to narrow it to a top 6. Geez, this is hard. I spoke with Mrs. R., and asked if I would get lynched if I chose a deep track instead of the stuff everyone's heard - she said go for it. So, here's the song that I'm most likely to crank from the entire album - sue me:

 
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The production on The Black Album is amazing if you’re producing a tank commercial, but it gutted Metallica’s feral edge. Even James’s voice got “tough guy” and ditched the feral shriek.
He should not be blamed for this. He was destroying his vocal chords. It was learn to sing properly or not sing at all.
 
The production on The Black Album is amazing if you’re producing a tank commercial, but it gutted Metallica’s feral edge. Even James’s voice got “tough guy” and ditched the feral shriek.
He should not be blamed for this. He was destroying his vocal chords. It was learn to sing properly or not sing at all.

Hey, cool with me. I have tender vocal cords myself so I can totally relate. My buddy, who was once a print journalist, became a guy who was on television all the time for broadcast financial news (just a really cool, good guy who'd been a freelancer that once wrote long-form articles for Rolling Stone, which I know is hated here :laugh:, and had his own run-in with Larry Flynt, which I found really sort of a bit jaw-dropping). Anyway, he had to get surgery on his, which was no joke. He was wondering if he was going to have a career in broadcast journalism anymore (he did). Anyway, I can't yell for more than thirty seconds at a sporting event without completely shredding mine, so I can imagine James Hetfield after all those years of screaming.

But the ChatGPT was right about the low-end, high-end, death of midrange thing, among other things. That's how those cassettes sounded.
 
Metallica's only complete album is Master of Puppets and is also their best song. I like a lot of their songs but the only album played front to back is Master.
The difference between Metallica when they were great and then everything after 1989 is not just the sound of their guitars or whatever; they fundamentally and deliberately changed the way they wrote music and who they wrote it for. The masses and Clear Channel love 4/4 time. Bon Jovi is in 4/4. Motley Crue is in 4/4. Candlebox is 4/4. Only weird musicians and nerds enjoy bands that have weird time changes in their songs (nobody better at doing this and being commercially successful than Rush). But Metallica used to mix it up because they were great musicians and they were writing great and challenging songs.

Here's the time signatures for some of the early Metallica songs:

“Blackened” 4/4 intro that cycles through 3/4 and 4/4 and 5/4, then drops into 7/4 and 6/4 for the verse; choruses snap back to 4/4 with two-beat 2/4 tag bars.
“…And Justice for All” Main riff is in 5/4; verses flip between 4/4 and 3/4, and a 2/4 “catch-breath” often appears at the end of the motif.
“Eye of the Beholder” Switches between straight 4/4 in the verses and an off-kilter 5/4 (some sheet music shows it as 12/8 + 15/8) throughout the chorus section.
“One” Opens in 4/4, moves to 3/4 for the clean verses, injects occasional 2/4 bars, shifts to 6/4 in the bridge, then finishes the double-kick finale in fast 4/4 (felt as cut-time 2/2).
“The Frayed Ends of Sanity” Nominally 4/4, but has a parade of cut-and-paste two-beat (2/4) and seven-beat (7/4) bars
"Battery” – 3/4 intro; main riff 4/4; verses insert a single-bar 2/4 tag every four bars; two isolated 3/4 measures appear during the solo.
“The Four Horsemen” – verses / choruses 4/4; middle “gallop” section mixes in 12/8 before returning to 4/4.
“Fade to Black” – 4/4 with scattered single-bar 2/4 pickups; bridge is 6/4; ending double-time still counted 4/4.
“Fight Fire with Fire” – classical intro 12/8; main part 4/4; pre-chorus trims one bar to 3/4 before landing back in common time.
“For Whom the Bell Tolls” – opening bell riff felt in 3/4 (some write it 12/8); crashes into 4/4 under the solo and ride-out.
“Jump in the Fire” – mid-tempo 4/4 throughout; each chorus has a two-beat 2/4 pickup bar.
“Master of Puppets” – intro/verse: seven bars 4/4 plus one bar 7/8 (you may see some versions where they just call it 15/16); pre-chorus alternates 4/4 and 3/4
“Motorbreath” – 4/4 except for a single 2/4 bar each cycle in the chorus.
“No Remorse” – verses are 4/4, but there's one accent bar of 6/4 just before the final solo break; the fast outro is cut-time and arguably 2/2
“Orion” – first riff 4/4; mid-section bass melody 6/8, throw in one 3/4 bar just for fun, the final is 4/4 with a single 5/4 turnaround.
“Phantom Lord” – verses / choruses 4/4; clean mid-section is 12/8 for sixteen bars, then back to 4/4.
“Ride the Lightning” – verse riff 4/4; pre-chorus alternates 4/4 with 3/4; slow solo section is 6/4; outro returns to 4/4.
“The Thing That Should Not Be” – verse 4/4; pre-chorus drops a bar of 2/4; breakdown adds two bars of 3/4 before restoring 4/4.
“Welcome Home (Sanitarium)” – clean intro/verse follows 6/4, 6/4 , 4/4 pattern; chorus stays 4/4; bridge clips a bar to 3/4; fast finale resumes 4/4.
“Whiplash” – mostly 4/4, but pre-chorus lurches for a single bar of 3/4 every fourth line.


Now here is the time signature for every song on "The Black Album" (except Nothing Else Matters which stays at a consistently plodding 3/4):

4/4.

That's it. Every song. From start to finish. Freaking steady 4/4 all the way through. Like the Kingsmen or Def Leppard. The Black album and beyond reflected a deliberate change in the way they wrote music, and I think it's fair to conclude that they wanted to make more money by being more accessible to the masses. AKA: sell out. Now if you truly like the Black album and all the other stuff after (the worst I've heard has to be that song about a candle in the window lights the way home), that's cool and I don't judge. But for people like me that used to love Metallica in high school and then couldn't stand them afterwards, I hope this helps shed some light on why that may be.

Righteous. How do you know time signatures? Do you play an instrument or read music? I'm not trying to pin you down; I'm just always curious about people who can hear that stuff. I can never tell. I described the thrash shift in sound as "trebly," so you know how advanced I am.
 
Trompe Le Monde is my 2nd favorite Pixies. U-Mass would've been my song choice. Love the JAMC cover too.

Surfer Rosa is a close 3rd. Gigantic, Vamos and Where Is My Mind would be song choices.

Interesting. That really lines up with what I would pick. Motorway to Roswell? My nineteen year-old self listened to that on a loop one night studying for a test in my dorm room. It was this exquisite song nearly ruined by an all-night stress session.

Last night he could not make it
 
59. Pronounced 'Lĕh-'Nérd 'Skin-'Nérd – Lynyrd Skynyrd (354 points)

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(Pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd) is the debut studio album by American rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd, released on August 13, 1973, by MCA Records. Recording took place in Doraville, Georgia at Studio One, following a lengthy period of rehearsals. Prior to the album's conception, many of its songs were already featured in Lynyrd Skynyrd's live repertoire. To promote it, the band released "Gimme Three Steps" and "Free Bird" as singles; these, along with "Simple Man" and "Tuesday's Gone", are among the band's best-known songs.
Please add Simple Man to the playlist.
 
I guess these last few posts tell something about why I love Queen. They just went their own way, odd time signatures, production quality, and all.
That’s almost precisely why I chose “The Prophet’s Song” for Night at the Opera. It’s all over the place and personifies Queen’s harmonic/mythical/push-the-boundaries sound of its early years - that and Brian May’s incredible guitar work.
 
Speaking of destroying vocal cords, how do death and black metal singers get away with those sounds? The guy from Opeth has been doing this for 30+ years, yet he can still sing in a normal voice when he wants to.
 
55. Blood On The Tracks – Bob Dylan (367 points)

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Blood on the Tracks is the fifteenth studio album by American singer-songwriter Bob Dylan, released on January 20, 1975, by Columbia Records. The album marked Dylan's return to Columbia after a two-album stint with Asylum Records. Dylan began recording the album at an A & R studio in New York City in September 1974. In December, shortly before Columbia was due to release the album, Dylan abruptly re-recorded much of the material in Sound 80 studio in Minneapolis. The final album contains five tracks recorded in New York and five from Minneapolis. The songs have been linked to tensions in Dylan's personal life, including his estrangement from his then-wife Sara. One of their children, Jakob Dylan, described the songs as "my parents talking". Dylan denied that the songs were autobiographical.
 
54. Stop Making Sense – Talking Heads (372 points)

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Stop Making Sense is a live album by the American rock band Talking Heads, also serving as the soundtrack to the concert film of the same name. It was released in September 1984 and features nine tracks from the film, albeit with treatment and editing. The album spent over two years on the Billboard 200 chart. It was their first album to be distributed by EMI outside North America.

The album was ranked number 345 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.
 
Dang. I'm always a half-step behind the cool kids. I picked a different album than Doolittle. It was a lower-ranked one on my list and I had a distinct feeling when I picked it that it wouldn't make it, but it was the one that got me into the band. In my estimation, it's a great record.

"Here Comes Your Man" has that "A Hard Day's Night" type of chord at the beginning, and after a few years of post-collegiate taste where they got shunted to the side, I got into the band again after I saw the video out one night with my friends and they were all singing it. I used to have diverse groups of friends (look at me!) and this group of cats were not the type of guys to be listening to the Pixies (think of the kind of guys that voluntarily go to places on Saturday night that have relatively strict dress codes—they aren't just "no jeans falling down around your ankles or Timberland boots or white kid mullets and Orange Sunkist-stained, ribbed tank tops"—no, you have to dress up, to which I'd say, "If I wanted to go to work I'd go there and get **** done"). Anyway, I started listening again to them and realized that it was deviant pop music and that alternative and indie had migrated, which was cool by me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But "Hey" is a great song, although I'm surprised you all didn't pick Surfer Rosa. I mean, Doolittle was considered their best but I think it's their third-best album. I'm a big fan of Trompe Le Monde because that's the record that got me into them at nineteen. That one may or may not have been my Pixies pick. The lyrics on that Trompe record are my favorite of almost any rock record I can think of. It's rarely a thing with me, but those lyrics in particular are whip-smart, funny, absurdist exercises in rock songwriting that tell interesting narratives. Plus for someone who missed the Jesus and Mary Chain because they were a few years before my adolescence, "Head On" is a great cover and introduction. So yeah, it was #64 on my list.

If I had to vote for a song it would be between "Where Is My Mind?" (of course), "Gigantic," (love Kim in a very platonic way, actually), and "U-Mass" (hey man, I grew up near Amherst—we used to play them in youth hockey, darn it). But "Hey" is sublime. They've got quite the deep catalog.
Big Pixies fan here, I have a MAD 31 round 6 list ready for them. It's nice to see Doolittle rank so high. I was also introduced to them with Trompe, so I have a special connection with that, but can't deny the greatness of Doolittle and Surfer Rosa. Hey is an all time classic. As others have said U-Mass and Head On are great from Trompe. I am also really fond on Letter to Memphis.
 

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