Shonka: Well you know Matt, I tried to get Warner into Philadelphia in '97 – or maybe it was '98 – and there was an office guy in Green Bay that Philadelphia hired as an office guy.
When I pitched Warner he said, "Warner wouldn't even go on the field and take snaps in Green Bay. He can't play." I told him the kid could play and the reason he didn't go on the field was because he didn't know the offense. It wasn't because he didn't have the talent. Long story short, they didn't bring him into Philadelphia but it all kind of worked out for him, didn't it?