Cotchery value moving forward (1 Viewer)

[xenith]

Thought this deserved it's own discussion.

Cotchery was developing himself into a legit top20 WR perhaps even better, and is still young.

Dynasty wise, his value is still very very high I would say.

In redraft leagues, does the 'threat' on the other side help him? That assumes Edwards still qualifies as a threat, which I believe for now he does, but that could change if he doesn't get it together. Or does he lose targets and slide downwards?

I was already considering a trade offer of Kevin Smith and Cotchery for Pierre Thomas, but felt is was a bit much to offer. Now might be just about right with the risk of a slide for Jerricho. But that's another discussion for another forum.

What say you, footballguys? Does Cotchery hold the same value, higher, or lower for this season?

 

[TheFanatic]

I own him in two leagues and am giddy with the Edwards trade...

 

[Two Deep]

Opens up the field for Cotchery

 

[Instinctive]

Cotchery is the guy Sanchez likes, just like Roddy and Mason last season. Unless Braylon starts catchign everything like Cotch does, and build immediate and insane chemistry with Sanchez, I think it's a good thing for Jerricho

 

[fightingillini]

Thought this deserved it's own discussion.Cotchery was developing himself into a legit top20 WR perhaps even better, and is still young. Dynasty wise, his value is still very very high I would say. In redraft leagues, does the 'threat' on the other side help him? That assumes Edwards still qualifies as a threat, which I believe for now he does, but that could change if he doesn't get it together. Or does he lose targets and slide downwards?I was already considering a trade offer of Kevin Smith and Cotchery for Pierre Thomas, but felt is was a bit much to offer. Now might be just about right with the risk of a slide for Jerricho. But that's another discussion for another forum.What say you, footballguys? Does Cotchery hold the same value, higher, or lower for this season?

In a redraft PPR league, I say his value increases.In a redraft nonPPR league, I say his value is unchanged.Edwards still has a problem with drops, so Sanchez will still lean on Cotchery to get the key 3rd down receptions. What Edwards can do is stretch the field, which will open space for Cotchery, as well as Dustin Keller.It will take some time for Edwards to learn the playbook and get in synch with Sanchez........remember that Roy Williams was not in synch with Romo when he was traded to DAL.BTW, no way would I trade Kevin Smith and Cotchery for Pierre Thomas........

 

[sparkky]

BE may initially take a few targets but Cotch should have more open field once he gets the ball.

 

[CBower4545]

The Jets are not the Cardinals. They run and play defense. They average 27.5 pass attempts per game second lowest in the NFL. After 4 weeks Cotchery is #12 in total targets. Keller will still get targets, Washington will still be involved in the passing game, they will still lean on the run and protet their young qb . This offense is not built to support two big time receivers. If Edwards hit's the ground running, expect them both to be inconsistent, with a downtick in overall production.

 

[mlball77]

As a Cotchery dynasty owner, I am worried. A ball-control, run-heavy offense doesn’t afford a ton of opportunity to two solid WRs and a solid receiving TE. While I agree Edwards will stretch the field, and that he also may not take over as Sanchez’s favorite target anytime soon (or maybe ever), I still am worried about his arrival. The NYJ receiving pie isn’t that large, and Edwards doesn’t have to pull in 1k yds to take a significant slice, imo.

 

[TheFanatic]

If BE stretches the field and draws a corner and possibly safety help to cover him and Cotch catches the ball underneath somewhere it would be conceivable that Cotch's YAC could increase as he will have more room to run...

 

[SigEp316]

I own him in two leagues and am giddy with the Edwards trade...

I love seeing Edwards come over....stretch the field and let Crotchery work on that #2 CB

 

[TheFanatic]

I own him in two leagues and am giddy with the Edwards trade...

I love seeing Edwards come over....stretch the field and let Crotchery work on that #2 CB

Or even the #1CB but with no Safety help. Just 1 on 1. Either way it's a good thing...

 

[strong]

this will hurt cotchery's game to game production, but i get the feeling edwards' presence will allow for a couple monster games.

expect more 2/27 lines and a couple 8/130 sprinkled in.

if cotchery is your WR3, then this is fine. if cotchery is more like a WR1/WR2 for you, then this can hurt your win column.

 

[strong]

As a Cotchery dynasty owner, I am worried. A ball-control, run-heavy offense doesn’t afford a ton of opportunity to two solid WRs and a solid receiving TE. While I agree Edwards will stretch the field, and that he also may not take over as Sanchez’s favorite target anytime soon (or maybe ever), I still am worried about his arrival. The NYJ receiving pie isn’t that large, and Edwards doesn’t have to pull in 1k yds to take a significant slice, imo.

good posting.people in this thread are acting like this is the colts offense.

 

[fightingillini]

this will hurt cotchery's game to game production, but i get the feeling edwards' presence will allow for a couple monster games.expect more 2/27 lines and a couple 8/130 sprinkled in. if cotchery is your WR3, then this is fine. if cotchery is more like a WR1/WR2 for you, then this can hurt your win column.

Not sure why you believe this. You make it sound like Edwards will hit the ground running......that's very hard to do at WR, when timing and being in synch with your QB matters so much.You must expect Edwards to get the majority of targets......in which I disagree.

 

[strong]

this will hurt cotchery's game to game production, but i get the feeling edwards' presence will allow for a couple monster games.expect more 2/27 lines and a couple 8/130 sprinkled in. if cotchery is your WR3, then this is fine. if cotchery is more like a WR1/WR2 for you, then this can hurt your win column.

Not sure why you believe this. You make it sound like Edwards will hit the ground running......that's very hard to do at WR, when timing and being in synch with your QB matters so much.You must expect Edwards to get the majority of targets......in which I disagree.

i don't think edwards will hit the ground running--pretty sure i didn't say that. but i think he'll produce more than clowney, stuckey, et al. which will have an impact on cotchery's targets and catches... also, as the season progresses, i expect edwards will have at least a couple big games---prior to this game, none of the other receivers were threats for big games. this will hurt cotchery, and i think the probability he produces stinker games increases with this trade. overall, the jets offense should improve with this trade and that's good for any offensive player on the team. but they still don't throw enough--and i don't think this trade will change that much...

 

[Instinctive]

this will hurt cotchery's game to game production, but i get the feeling edwards' presence will allow for a couple monster games.expect more 2/27 lines and a couple 8/130 sprinkled in. if cotchery is your WR3, then this is fine. if cotchery is more like a WR1/WR2 for you, then this can hurt your win column.

Not sure why you believe this. You make it sound like Edwards will hit the ground running......that's very hard to do at WR, when timing and being in synch with your QB matters so much.You must expect Edwards to get the majority of targets......in which I disagree.

i don't think edwards will hit the ground running--pretty sure i didn't say that. but i think he'll produce more than clowney, stuckey, et al. which will have an impact on cotchery's targets and catches... also, as the season progresses, i expect edwards will have at least a couple big games---prior to this game, none of the other receivers were threats for big games. this will hurt cotchery, and i think the probability he produces stinker games increases with this trade. overall, the jets offense should improve with this trade and that's good for any offensive player on the team. but they still don't throw enough--and i don't think this trade will change that much...

Edwards isn't exactly the possession guy here, and Cotchery has a very high catch percentage. That being said, now look at the rookie QBs Rex Ryan's team (ok Harbaugh's team but Ryan was there and knows the forumula that works) had last season...Flacco locke donto Derrick Mason. Possession guy.A rookie QB goes to the guy he trusts. The guy with the chemistry and the hands. That's Cotchery.Dynasty? Even better. If Braylon can get involved then as the next year or two pass and the reigns come off a little bit, balancing towards the pass more...there will be enough pie for them both.

 

[strong]

this will hurt cotchery's game to game production, but i get the feeling edwards' presence will allow for a couple monster games.

expect more 2/27 lines and a couple 8/130 sprinkled in.

if cotchery is your WR3, then this is fine. if cotchery is more like a WR1/WR2 for you, then this can hurt your win column.

Not sure why you believe this. You make it sound like Edwards will hit the ground running......that's very hard to do at WR, when timing and being in synch with your QB matters so much.You must expect Edwards to get the majority of targets......in which I disagree.

i don't think edwards will hit the ground running--pretty sure i didn't say that. but i think he'll produce more than clowney, stuckey, et al. which will have an impact on cotchery's targets and catches...

also, as the season progresses, i expect edwards will have at least a couple big games---prior to this game, none of the other receivers were threats for big games. this will hurt cotchery, and i think the probability he produces stinker games increases with this trade.

overall, the jets offense should improve with this trade and that's good for any offensive player on the team. but they still don't throw enough--and i don't think this trade will change that much...

A rookie QB goes to the guy he trusts.

looked to me like sanchez trusted edwards a lot. actually, looked like a little boy on christmas morning playing with his new toy.cotchery's value took a hit with this trade.

i understand cotchery was hurt last night, but he was active and even cotchery owners have to admit that sanchez's focus on edwards and trust in him to go up and get it are concerning going forward.

 

[Instinctive]

^ Cotch hurt.

Still hurt. Looks like he won't play next week.

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll see this one play out for a few weeks...

 

[kylechoffman]

What do you think the impact to D Keller will be now? Bye week fill depending on the matchup?

 

[sterjs]

Losing targets is always bad. "So and so taking the pressure off" is B.S. from a fantasy perspective.

 

[EdwardCat]

Losing targets is always bad. "So and so taking the pressure off" is B.S. from a fantasy perspective.

This could also create more targets, too. The addition of a great receiver increases the likelyhood they will throw and be successful.

 

[moleculo]

I'm concerned.

 

[EdwardCat]

Given his recent injury and Edwards, this guy is a WR3 at best. Before Edwards, he was a top WR2.