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fred_1_15301
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Jed
Footballguy
If that was on 9 or 10 receptions, I wouldn't be worried.
kaso
Footballguy
I am a bit concerned as well, as I see the lack of receptions as the biggest change from last season. Granted a lot has changed with the offence between this year and last.
As an owner I am going to keep plugging him in over the next couple weeks. The next two matchups aren't great, but the Jets face Cin, Oak and KC coming out of their bye. That should help the Jets O get back on track!
As an owner I am going to keep plugging him in over the next couple weeks. The next two matchups aren't great, but the Jets face Cin, Oak and KC coming out of their bye. That should help the Jets O get back on track!
Jayrod
Footballguy
I for one am, but that is because of how I viewed him.
I don't really need him to get TD's, but I expected a much higher number of targets per game and getting @ 4 catches per game with some good yardage (60 yds+). One catch in week 2 is very disappointing. I was actually a little nervous when I saw he only had 3 catches in week 1.
To put it into perspective, he's on pace for 32 catches this year.
I don't really need him to get TD's, but I expected a much higher number of targets per game and getting @ 4 catches per game with some good yardage (60 yds+). One catch in week 2 is very disappointing. I was actually a little nervous when I saw he only had 3 catches in week 1.
To put it into perspective, he's on pace for 32 catches this year.
Buck Bradcanon
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Very conservative playcalling through 2 weeks in 2 close games that were each within a score in the 4th quarter.
I expect we will get some answers Monday night based on the fact that I think SD will be up all game..just my 2 cents.
Cotch 6 for 90 and maybe a TD...much of it coming in the 2nd half. My main point is this team hasnt had to chunk it around yet and will have to Monday.
I expect we will get some answers Monday night based on the fact that I think SD will be up all game..just my 2 cents.
Cotch 6 for 90 and maybe a TD...much of it coming in the 2nd half. My main point is this team hasnt had to chunk it around yet and will have to Monday.
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Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
Cotchery always burns the Pats so I would think that he would have been one of their #1 priorities to keep in check. Especially with Favre now throwing to him.
packersfan
Footballguy
Watching the game, it was clear the Patriots were not going to let Cotchery beat them. They schemed to take Cotchery away. To Favre's credit, he didn't try to force anything to Cotchery and instead looked for Coles more and found Stuckey for the TD. On the flip side, the Jets will need to work to get Cotchery open given his importance to the passing game. I too expected more production from him so far but I haven't lost any faith in him. He's too good and Favre's too good for him not to start putting up much better numbers.
omally
Footballguy
I agree that the playcalling for the Jets has been very conservative the last 2 games. Favre is learning the system more every week, so hopefully they will open up the playbook, and start tossing that ball more. I think once that happens Cotchery will be a primary target.
bcr8f
Footballguy
They need to trust Favre and open up the offense.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
He'll be perfectly fine, especially in PPR leagues.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
favre can't be comfortable in the new system already, veteran or not i'd give him a few more weeks to settle in and find his receivers. i'm not as concerned about cotchery as i am about how this offense will fare for the next few weeks and how fast favre can get them going.
Max Power
Footballguy
Why is everyone convinced Jerricho will be fine?
I think he will have a decent season, but not the jump in #s like some (me) were hoping for.
Basically it all boils down to down, why would the Jets want to throw the ball 30+ times when they can win with Solid play from the D and a ball control O? Faneca wasn't brought in so they could air it out all game.
Jets shouldn't need to pass as much as last year, favre uses RBs and TEs more than previous jets QB, and the Jets shouldn't be playing from behind as much. How could Cotchery's numbers really go up?
IMO, PPR sell. Standard, he should be ok as I think he will get 8-10 TD's.
I think he will have a decent season, but not the jump in #s like some (me) were hoping for.
Basically it all boils down to down, why would the Jets want to throw the ball 30+ times when they can win with Solid play from the D and a ball control O? Faneca wasn't brought in so they could air it out all game.
Jets shouldn't need to pass as much as last year, favre uses RBs and TEs more than previous jets QB, and the Jets shouldn't be playing from behind as much. How could Cotchery's numbers really go up?
IMO, PPR sell. Standard, he should be ok as I think he will get 8-10 TD's.
packersfan
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Here are my main reasons:1. He's talented. I think he is one of the more underrated WRs in the league right now. He runs good routes, has good hands and can gain yardage after the catch. 2. He's a proven producer. This is a guy who has topped 80 receptions each of the past two seasons while playing with crap at QB. Favre is obviously a gigantic upgrade over what he's had to work with before.3. Favre. He's obviously a very good QB and I believe the things Jennings does best fit in ideally with Favre's strengths as a QB. What's more, one of Favre's greatest strengths is elevating the talent level of the WRs he works with. That bodes extremely well for Cotchery's potential. 4. Coles' health. I'm not convinced Coles is healthy and I'm not sure he'll get healthy anytime soon. If the Jets are going to have success through the air, they will need to get the ball to Cotchery. The fact they did that in Week 1 and won and didn't do it in Week 2 and lost isn't a coincidence in my opinion.Favre is only two games in with the Jets and in one of them, I think a lot of people (myself included) underestimated the opposing team's head coach (Belichick). He is still an outstanding defensive head coach and he did an excellent job of scheming against the Jets and taking Cotchery out of the game plan. The good news for the Jets is there aren't many defensive-minded coaches on Belichick's level.Did I expect more out of Cotchery then four receptions through two games? Absolutely. Am I worried that my preseason prediction of a Top 15 finish in PPR leagues is no longer possible? Not by a longshot. He's proven what he can do. Favre has proven what he can do. I think Cotchery is still going to have a tremendous season. I think the loss to the Pats and the failure of their conservative nature was a big lesson for the Jets' coaching staff. I'm not saying they're going to ask Favre to start airing it out 40 times a game, but I do think they will start working to give him and his weapons their best opportunity to succeed going foward.
Apollo Creed
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Fantaholic
Footballguy
Look for a big game under the lights this week. May change your thinking. Brett has aways liked MNF and Cotchery is the most likely recipient.
footballnerd
Footballguy
I'm kind of worried. ESPN made a list of all the WRs in the league that are getting 5 targets or more. Guess which Jet was on there, COLES!! And he's the one supposed to not be in sync with Farve.
packersfan
Footballguy
Something else to keep in mind about Cotchery is he came very close to having a much bigger game against the Patriots. He had a long completion called back because he pushed off for offensive interference. Favre put too much air on that pass and if he had thrown it harder, Cotchery may have caught it for a TD or at least a long gain without the need for a penalty. Cotchery also just missed a TD when the ball was batted away from him at the last moment in the end zone. I realize that at the end of the day it's only what he produces that matters but it shows you how close he was to putting up good or maybe even great numbers in Week 2. So I don't think it's time to despair.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Max Power said:
Didn't we know all of this when we bought in?And I only advocating buying in on Cotchery in PPR leagues, thinking he'd flirt with 80 catches once again. If those 80-ish catches come about, he was worth the draft pick. And if he ends up with the 8-10 TDs you think he will, he was easily worth the pick.
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fanaticskinsfan
Footballguy
I am seriously considering putting in Matt Forte over Cotchery. Anybody have any thoughts on that?
Chaka
Footballguy
Yes, yes I do.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Holden23 said:
Come on. This is why alot of you willl lose your leagues. Let me correct that, if you drafted him as an WR1 you DESERVE to lose your leagues. He is a mid range WR2 depending on your depth at RB, matchups elsewhere that week, and your flex rules.Let's see how this week plays out. SD is going to be fired up and going 0-3 will be a huge hurdle for them. But Brett is magic on Monday, so I would say, depending on Cole's health, he is a strong WR2 start this week--again this is depending on your other options.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I just hope the Jets start throwing a bit more; seeing Favre in the low to mid 20's in attempts is a bit worrisome..but, even given that, I tend to agree with those counseling patience. As long as you had healthy expectations of him, I think he'll perform to ADP. For example, in a start 3 WR league, I consider him a WR3 behind Marshall & Holmes...then again, Holmes has issues of his own as well...sorry for the mini-off-topic bit there. Monday Night should be interesting to watch whether the Jets loosen things up a bit.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Don't consider, do it now.
Warhogs
Footballguy
This is based on memory but I think last year or maybe the year before Jennings was supposed to be a great beneficiary of playing with Brett Favre. The first couple of games he was doing almost nothing (I believe I even remember him getting dropped in a lot of leagues) and then he turned it on. It's OK to be a bit worried with a different team and all but I have not hit the worry button yet.
packersfan
Footballguy
Just to clarify - what happened last season is Jennings missed the first two games with an injury and James Jones looked great. That led a lot of Jennings owners to (foolishly in my opinion) drop Jennings because they thought Jones would take over. But once Jennings got healthy, he lit it up, scoring in each of his first three games. So the analogy isn't quite the same.
LBH
Footballguy
i think Cotchery will have a very good seasonYou make me feel a great deal better about having drafted Cotchery in many leagues. In all honesty, I can not fathom how anyone would sell him right now. It would absolutely be a sell low kind of thing, since his value is incredibly low right now and his upside is still incredibly high.
Chickenwang
Footballguy
I'm not impressed. I have him and have a hard time starting him over Eddie Royal or Santonio Holmes.
If he's going to get 80 grabs again, Favre-ard beans better pick it up.
If he's going to get 80 grabs again, Favre-ard beans better pick it up.
eric rymer
Footballguy
Agreed. I think we'll see marked improvement as they open up the playbook a little more each week.
Das Boot
Footballguy
Very Nice post
I agree with all except that a hampered Coles may hurt Cotchery a little rather than helping, but that's always hard to assess. I also expect the Jets TEs to see more passes, but that probably helps Cotchery in the long run.
DolphinsPhan
Footballguy
I benched Cotchery this week in favor of Eddie Royal in a ppr league. It wasn't an easy decision.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
I think it depends on where you picked him at and what role he plays on your team. I picked him up in the 5th in my PPR league to fill in when one of my big 3 WR's missed a game (Fitz, Marshall, Smith). The Jets play the Raiders, Chiefs and Bills when those players have a bye, so I'm holding....
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