Could John Beck time be close? (1 Viewer)

[DolphinsFanAlways]

First, I want to wish a speedy recovery to Trent Green....

Second, at what point do they hand things over to the man they selected over Brady Quinn? I am sure that it will mostly depend on how long Trent Green is out. But the Dolphins are now at 0-5 and the playoffs are more then a longshot away. So how long do they stick with Cleo Lemon? Would the fact that Ronnie Brown has been awesome the past few weeks help or hurt Becks chances?

At 26, Beck was older then the other QBs drafted and was thought to be intelligent and mature.

As a Dolphins fan, I am excited to see what this guy can do.

 

[The Hank]

 

[ThePittbully]

 

[PahtyTom]

It shouldn't be close, it should be NOW. He's not a young guy, 26 years old I think and he's the supposed QB of the future. Miami isn't going anywhere, and Lemon isn't an answer.

 

[jamny]

I'm a Phins fan too and was thinking the same thing. Not sure how far along he is with the game plan but I see no reason why they won't see what they have in Beck.

 

[faux_bear]

The Miami Herald is reporting Green will be out at least several weeks. Frankly I'm not necessarily in the camp that believes John Beck should be thrown in there. Not until at least week 10 or so.

He may be 26, but he IS a rookie. I prefer he get acclimated to NFL style play in the practice rather than be thrown to the wolves with a subpar OLine and relatively weak supporting cast,

 

[faux_bear]

However, I should say that the Dolphins should get him in during the last few weeks to see what they got in him. At least to help decide if they should target a guy like Brohm in next year's draft (they probably won't take him though).

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

First, I want to wish a speedy recovery to Trent Green....Second, at what point do they hand things over to the man they selected over Brady Quinn?

Ted Ginn doesn't play QB.

 

[PahtyTom]

The Miami Herald is reporting Green will be out at least several weeks. Frankly I'm not necessarily in the camp that believes John Beck should be thrown in there. Not until at least week 10 or so.He may be 26, but he IS a rookie. I prefer he get acclimated to NFL style play in the practice rather than be thrown to the wolves with a subpar OLine and relatively weak supporting cast,

Has playing as a rookie shown to be detrimental to a QB's progression down the line? Obviously in some cases rookie QBs have been put in and failed and never recovered. But we don't know if those guys were going to pan out if they weren't thrown in there anyway. It might be detrimental to a team's success for that season, but Miami stinks anyway. Beck does have a running back playing as good as any in the league right now to lean on also, if he's thrown in there.

 

[jamny]

First, I want to wish a speedy recovery to Trent Green....Second, at what point do they hand things over to the man they selected over Brady Quinn?

Ted Ginn doesn't play QB.

I'm guessing you're being silly, but Miami clearly selected Beck over Quinn. They just picked Ginn before him.

 

[faux_bear]

The Miami Herald is reporting Green will be out at least several weeks. Frankly I'm not necessarily in the camp that believes John Beck should be thrown in there. Not until at least week 10 or so.He may be 26, but he IS a rookie. I prefer he get acclimated to NFL style play in the practice rather than be thrown to the wolves with a subpar OLine and relatively weak supporting cast,

Has playing as a rookie shown to be detrimental to a QB's progression down the line? Obviously in some cases rookie QBs have been put in and failed and never recovered. But we don't know if those guys were going to pan out if they weren't thrown in there anyway. It might be detrimental to a team's success for that season, but Miami stinks anyway. Beck does have a running back playing as good as any in the league right now to lean on also, if he's thrown in there.

yeah, I agree. He probably can't be worse than Trent Green had been, and Cleo is certainly not the QB of the future. I'd hate to rattle his confidence by throwing him in too soon (like next week for example), but if he's going to be an NFL QB, he's going to need to show poise and get used to NFL LB's chasing him around.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

First, I want to wish a speedy recovery to Trent Green....Second, at what point do they hand things over to the man they selected over Brady Quinn?

Ted Ginn doesn't play QB.

I'm guessing you're being silly, but Miami clearly selected Beck over Quinn. They just picked Ginn before him.

I haven't seen any indication that the Dolphins ranked Beck ahead of Quinn. This is a common fallacy; just like when people said that the Cowboys chose Julius Jones over Kevin Jones.

 

[Jimmy James]

I don't think it's Beck time until week 10, and I can live with that as a Dolphins fan. I don't mind taking a few weeks to evaluate Lemon because he will be a free agent and may not be worth signing as a backup depending on his play. Starting Beck in week 10 still gives the team 8 games, which is plenty of time to evaluate Beck to determine what the team might have in him.

 

[Ocho Cinco]

Everybody knows he isn't ready, even Beck was quoted in the Miami Herald saying he just wasn't ready yet. No, there isn't a direct corellation between QB's failing when thrown in their first years, but I believe he shouldnt be thrown in yet. He needs time, and shouldn't be rushed.

 

[SwampDawg]

Another fins fan checking in, I say put him in. The season is lost, might as well see if he at least progresses throughout the rest of the year so we know what we have to do with that top 3 pick next year. Lemon never has been and never will be the answer, don't need to see anymore of him.

 

[Sabertooth]

Hate to see an injury, but Trent Green deserves whatever he gets from that. He tried to put a cheap shot on that other player.

 

[Kirby]

It would suck to have Brady Quinn and Sidney Rice.

 

[moleculo]

First, I want to wish a speedy recovery to Trent Green....Second, at what point do they hand things over to the man they selected over Brady Quinn?

Ted Ginn doesn't play QB.

I'm guessing you're being silly, but Miami clearly selected Beck over Quinn. They just picked Ginn before him.

I haven't seen any indication that the Dolphins ranked Beck ahead of Quinn. This is a common fallacy; just like when people said that the Cowboys chose Julius Jones over Kevin Jones.

They did have Beck ranked higher than Quinn.

 

[Ned]

It would suck to have Brady Quinn and Sidney Rice.

 

[DolphinsFanAlways]

Although I completely understand the argument to keep Beck out until around week 10, i'm just not sure how much more Trent Green can take. John Beck was supposed to be the QB that was possibly the most "NFL ready" QB, coming out of the draft, so let's see what he has.

What is the difference between bringing him in now or week 10? The OL isn't gonna get any better between now and then? is it?

When you think about it, it is only 4 more games that he will have to play, and to play those 4 more games could very well help him, more then hurt him, going into next year. Also I think that with Ronnie Brown playing so good, that could help take some pressure off of him.

 

[Ocho Cinco]

I think Week 10 is perfect to bring in Beck. Do you really want to start Beck next week against Cleveland to then go ahead and bench him against New England (He should definately not start against New England). Week 10 would be perfect as we would be coming off of a bye week and the transition would be much easier for him. It also doesn't hurt that we'd be playing the Buffalo Bills, making it a good first matchup for him.

 

[ooofffaaa]

The time is now.

Trent Green is done.

Cleo Lemon is not the answer.

Time to throw Beck in there to see what they got before next years draft. Let him take his lumps and learn now.

 

[msommer]

The time is now.Trent Green is done.Cleo Lemon is not the answer.Time to throw Beck in there to see what they got before next years draft. Let him take his lumps and learn now.

can't hurt the draft position either

 

[ooofffaaa]

The time is now.Trent Green is done.Cleo Lemon is not the answer.Time to throw Beck in there to see what they got before next years draft. Let him take his lumps and learn now.

can't hurt the draft position either

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Were I the coach I would start the young man out with 15 scripted plays. After he has run the script I would go with my experienced backup. I'd want him to get some game work in, but under controlled circumstances. I want him to be certain of his plays, his reads, and his check downs. I would supply him with no more than two audibles.

After a few weeks doing this I would give him a little more responsibility. I might work him a series running their hurry up offense or two minute drill, even if its not with two minutes to go.

After the bye I would give him a full start.

 

[Jimmy James]

Hate to see an injury, but Trent Green deserves whatever he gets from that. He tried to put a cheap shot on that other player.

Mike Golic and Travis Johnson welcome you to their table of three.Watch out for the stones.I'm amazed that some actually think a legal block is a "cheap shot".

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Almost every QB is the same. They go into fetal position and throw themselves at the defenders lower legs.

 

[bcberg]

Hate to see an injury, but Trent Green deserves whatever he gets from that. He tried to put a cheap shot on that other player.

He was trying to block a man 3 times his size... how would you go about that if you were in his shoes?

 

[ChuckLiddell]

They did have Beck ranked higher than Quinn.

Got a source for that? I spend a lot of time on the Miami Herald forums and they have gone over this argument at least 20 times. Somebody always says that the Fins had Beck rated higher, and then all of the regulars chime in that Cam and Mueller were quoted as saying that they had Quinn ranked slightly higher, but not enough to justify taking him at 9 over taking the chance that they could get Beck at 40.

I have not seen the quotes from Cam/Mueller - but knowing the posters that were quoting them I did not feel the need to confirm them. many people have made the assertion though that Beck was rated higher on Miami's boards, but nobody has ever provided any evidence of that. I have not personally viewed a source for either side - but I tend to trust the regulars on that forum that I have visited every day for over a year. If you have a source that suggests otherwise I can make some trouble over there!

I dont think they should put Beck in yet personally. I agree with the poster that thinks they should wait until after the game in London, and then the bye week. Weeks 10-17 give him 8 games to take his lumps and get some game experience, as well as allow the team to evaluate him and determine if he is the QB of the future.