Could Oakland Draft Jemarcus and Calvin? (1 Viewer)

[Loomba]

With all the debate around who Oakland should take at #1, it occurred to me that maybe they could make a play for Detroit's #2 pick that everyone seems to think Detroit would part with. Not sure there is anything that would work since Oakland doesn't have another first round pick in this year's draft to offer but maybe if they got creative?

Off the top of my head, maybe Oakland's second and third round picks, next year's first round pick, Randy Moss and a solid LB (Detroit is rumored to want to draft a ILB in Willis) for the #2 pick and McCown (maybe toss in Mike Williams).

Then take Jemarcus and Calvin.

Probably no chance in hell something like this could occur, but if I were Oakland, I would explore this. Jemarcus looks like he could be that franchise QB and we all know Calvin is supposed to be the best player in the draft. So go get both?

Anyone else think there is a (remotely) possible deal here?

Disclaimer: not a Raider's fan but would like to see creative deals...

 

[Capella]

There's no way. There's very little chance Oakland's #1 next year will be worth more than the pick Detroit will be giving up this year, and that's all it boils down to. Those second and third round picks Detroit would get back wouldn't be worth the risk.

 

[massraider]

I have serious doubts that Al Davis wants to lay out that kind of cash, either. The Raiders aren't one of the NFL's richer franchises, you can tell because Al is still wearing his clothes from the 70's.

 

[EBF]

salary...cap...hell...

 

[WhoDat]

Never...gonna...happen

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Monkeys could fly out of my butt.

 

[Ned]

Monkeys could fly out of my butt.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Monkeys could fly out of my butt.

I can't tell if I'm hungry, or if we're about to see some magic here at the Dufresne household.

 

[Christo]

Monkeys could fly out of my butt.

I can't tell if I'm hungry, or if we're about to see some magic here at the Dufresne household.

Keep us posted.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Would seem to be hard to fit that under the rookie cap.

 

[Shrek]

Monkeys could fly out of my butt.

Keep us posted.

 

[dparker713]

Would seem to be hard to fit that under the rookie cap.

Rookie cap is based off of the picks you draft, so as long as the Raiders traded for the pick and not the player it wouldn't be a problem.

 

[ATC1]

I could see them drafting Russell and then try to move up to NE and take D. Bowe. Yes, I'm an LSU fan, but it would not surprise me to take two good friends in a draft to build a franchise.

 

[Sinrman]

Fantasy does NOT = reality. I can safely say NO WAY IN HELL would this happen... price would be too expensive for Oakland. $$ situation would be ridiculous. Many other reasons...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No monkeys yet.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Inconceivable!

 

[-OZ-]

No monkeys yet.

 

[Christo]

No monkeys yet.

 

[hutchins929]

Last years #1 pick Mario Williams signed a six-year, $54 million contract. The deal includes $26.5 million in guarantees and contains another $8.1 million in incentives.

Last years #2 pick Reggie Bush signed a six-year, $52.5 million contract. The deal includes just over $26.3 million guaranteed and contains another $9.5 million in incentives.

together thats 106.5 million dollars with 52.8 million guaranteed at least!

and thats last year... every season those figures tend to go up.

I don't see any team putting that much money into two rookies.

I got that info from www.rotoworld.com

 

[RenegadeGM]

Actually, why stop there. Oakland should trade their 2009 #1, and 2008 #2 and #3, plus Jerry Porter and Lamont Jordan (who they now don't need) to Cleveland for the Browns third overall pick. Then, they draft ADRIAN PETERSON.

Imagine starting the season with Russell behind center, with the option to hand off to Peterson or throw it deep to Johnson.

Sure, they'd have to release everyone else they currently have under contract, but wouldn't that be fun?

I'm thinking this could work.

 

[pinda]

Actually, why stop there. Oakland should trade their 2009 #1, and 2008 #2 and #3, plus Jerry Porter and Lamont Jordan (who they now don't need) to Cleveland for the Browns third overall pick. Then, they draft ADRIAN PETERSON.Imagine starting the season with Russell behind center, with the option to hand off to Peterson or throw it deep to Johnson.Sure, they'd have to release everyone else they currently have under contract, but wouldn't that be fun?I'm thinking this could work.

Now you are just being silly.With the #3 they would definitely take Joe Thomas.Once they worked out the deal for the #4 for their 2010, 2011 1st round picks, they could draft Peterson, then and only then.

 

[PatsWillWin]

this thread has some promise.

 

[Ned]

No monkeys yet.

update?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No monkeys yet.

update?

Brown snakes but no monkeys.

 

[hutchins929]

No monkeys yet.

update?

Brown snakes but no monkeys.

Wait... oh yeah I got a crap on deck that could choke a donkey... Yep there's a turtle head poking out!!! I'd better go take care of that!!!of course it always sounds better when Mike Myers (Fat *******) says it in that Scottish accent. -> -> -> ->

 

[The Jerminator]

No monkeys yet.

update?

Brown snakes but no monkeys.

Wait... oh yeah I got a crap on deck that could choke a donkey... Yep there's a turtle head poking out!!! I'd better go take care of that!!!of course it always sounds better when Mike Myers (Fat *******) says it in that Scottish accent.

-> -> -> ->

I love the "on deck" reference...

Back on topic:

Didn't the Redskins have the #1 & #2 picks overall (they aquired one through a previous trade IIRC) about 6-7 years ago? They took Courtney Brown and LaVar Arrington I think.

I know the cap is a bit different these days but it can't be impossible to sign both the #1 & #2, right?

ETA:

OK, so I got the Brown/Arrington part right, I just forgot that WAS had #2 & #3.

I've included the entire 1st round here to give props to my Rams for TRUNG

2000 NFL Draft

Draft# Team Player Pos College

1 Cleveland Browns Courtney Brown DE Penn State

2 Washington Redskins1 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State

3 Washington Redskins2 Chris Samuels T Alabama

4 Cincinnati Bengals Peter Warrick WR Florida State

5 Baltimore Ravens3 Jamal Lewis RB Tennessee

6 Philadelphia Eagles Corey Simon DT Florida State

7 Arizona Cardinals Thomas Jones RB Virginia

8 Pittsburgh Steelers Plaxico Burress WR Michigan State

9 Chicago Bears Brian Urlacher LB New Mexico

10 Baltimore Ravens4 Travis Taylor WR Florida

11 New York Giants Ron Dayne RB Wisconsin

12 New York Jets5 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee

13 New York Jets6 John Abraham LB South Carolina

14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks TE Miami (FL)

15 Denver Broncos7 Deltha O’Neal DB California

16 San Francisco 49ers8 Julian Peterson LB Michigan State

17 Oakland Raiders Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State

18 New York Jets Chad Pennington QB Marshall

19 Seattle Seahawks9 Shaun Alexander RB Alabama

20 Detroit Lions Stockar McDougle T Oklahoma

21 Kansas City Chiefs Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State

22 Seattle Seahawks Chris McIntosh T Wisconsin

23 Carolina Panthers10 Rashard Anderson DB Jackson State

24 San Francisco 49ers11 Ahmed Plummer DB Ohio State

25 Minnesota Vikings Chris Hovan DT Boston College

26 Buffalo Bills Erik Flowers DE Arizona State

27 New York Jets12 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia

28 Indianapolis Colts Rob Morris LB Brigham Young

29 Jacksonville Jaguars R. Jay Soward WR Southern California

30 Tennessee Titans Keith Bulluck LB Syracuse

31 St. Louis Rams Trung Canidate RB Arizona

 

[dparker713]

No monkeys yet.

update?

Brown snakes but no monkeys.

Wait... oh yeah I got a crap on deck that could choke a donkey... Yep there's a turtle head poking out!!! I'd better go take care of that!!!of course it always sounds better when Mike Myers (Fat *******) says it in that Scottish accent.

-> -> -> ->

I love the "on deck" reference...

Back on topic:

Didn't the Redskins have the #1 & #2 picks overall (they aquired one through a previous trade IIRC) about 6-7 years ago? They took Courtney Brown and LaVar Arrington I think.

I know the cap is a bit different these days but it can't be impossible to sign both the #1 & #2, right?

They had 2 and 3. They selected LaVar and Chris Samuels. Peter Warrick was the other consensus top four pick that year. Hey, 1 out of 4 ain't bad, right?

 

[Chaos Commish]

PFT is reporting that Oakland is in fact in negotiations with both JaMarcus Russell and Calvin Johnson!!!!

OH MY!! This... could.... happen!!!!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

PFT is reporting that Oakland is in fact in negotiations with both JaMarcus Russell and Calvin Johnson!!!!

OH MY!! This... could.... happen!!!!

OW! MY ###!

 

[Colin Dowling]

PFT is reporting that Oakland is in fact in negotiations with both JaMarcus Russell and Calvin Johnson!!!!

OH MY!! This... could.... happen!!!!

I certainly hope you are being sarcastic.

 

[hutchins929]

PFT is reporting that Oakland is in fact in negotiations with both JaMarcus Russell and Calvin Johnson!!!!

OH MY!! This... could.... happen!!!!

That happens every year! Last year the Texans were in negotiations with both Super Mario and Reggie Bush

 

[Vikes Fan]

No monkeys yet.

update?

Brown snakes but no monkeys.

Be honest...you watched Bruce Almighty last night didn't you? The scene where Jim Carey meets the guys in the alley and makes a monkey come out. Now the tricky part was when he told the monkey to go home. If that happens... ...uh, on second thought...maybe not.Sorry for the hyjack.