Ask him if he is willing to work himself through school waiting tables. If he is, I think he has found his passion and profession(NOTE: Those may end up being two different things). If not, he should really reconsider the whole thing and listen to his parents imo. If he is really serious about it that first year won't break him. But it would likely break a lot of folks.His parents are actively trying to discourage him from pursuing his passion. What advice would you give him? He’s pretty much a straight A student and never misses an assignment. I think it’s because his family wants him to become a doctor or lawyer instead.
What can you do with a minor in finance? Not trying to be a d-bag.... I honestly don't know.They could also condition supporting the NYU tuition if he's picking up a marketable second major or minor, like econ or finance or something.
I'm sure there are countless entry-level analyst jobs that will take a look.What can you do with a minor in finance? Not trying to be a d-bag.... I honestly don't know.
@ -otbifer- could tell you about Tisch, but he's not here.Tisch is a good school. Tough to get in.
this is so effed up.His parents are actively trying to discourage him from pursuing his passion.
I think this might be a hint as to how successful past graduates are.NYU undergrad costs $75,000 sticker price ($57k tuition + 18k room and board), along with another $4,700 estimated expenses - books, travel to and from school, and spending money. And their financial aid is stingy, because they don't have a big endowment.
I would say if they could afford $79,000 a year for college, then they should let him pursue what he wants. He's still going to get an undergrad degree from a highly regarded school, and can still go onto grad school or a career if acting doesn't work out. But if they can't afford it, then they (and he) would be crazy to take out a bunch of loans for a career in which he is highly unlikely to make enough $ to pay back the loans.
I think that's good advice in general - don't take out loans for undergrad (if at all possible) and definitely don't take out loans (undergrad or graduate) for degrees that have a low likelihood of helping you earn the $ you need to pay back the loans.
he'll get a decent, really expensive education and can figure it out afterwards with a BA in hand.Tisch is a good school. Tough to get in.
the bolded can't be had by living in NYC for a year, and is practically worth the price of admission.I (slightly) disagree. Acting is a talent, and a skill. School won't make a terrible actor great. But it can make a terrible one... less terrible? Maybe. It's like going to school for writing or painting or any other art. Yeah, some of it is a practical waste. But, someone who has charisma and talent will be run through the process so much that they'll pick up the right tricks, methods, and proper ways to "think" in the job that they can make a career out of it. There's a lot that goes on that the layperson doesn't realize.
No, it's not as useful as a school for plumbing or HVAC repair. Agreed. But there's still stuff to learn that, if he didn't learn, some average joe off the street would never succeed in the industry without. It could make a talented person more... refined? Like sharpening a blade.
There are a lot of bad writers who hack out self-published crap and fanfic and the fact that they've never taken a creative writing course shows. But there are some good and decent and talented writers who took courses and got a little bit better, learned how to plot and outline and structure their stories a bit better, and maybe went from "tried it for a while and it didn't work" to "almost make enough money to pay rent with this" because of classes.
Plus, the NYU "in" and networking opportunities given in that city in particular make it almost worth it (I mean, going to school for it, not quite sure where I am about the $80k part).
If it was just some kid that wanted to got to "any" drama school to live out the dream, that would be one thing. But a hard-working responsible straight-A kid who wants to take a run at Tisch? If he can even get in, go for it.
I worked with a girl that graduated with Adam Sandler. I just wanted to get that out there.glvsav37 said:Friends of ours went ot school at NYU. They had a kid, went to NYU acting school, who lived next apartment over and was constantly annoying them. So much the called him "Annoying Adam" and would avoid him at all costs.
yea, that "Annoying Adam" turned out to be Adam Sandler.
Anything can happen...tell him to go for it
What a waste. Start a business with the money instead. And I'm a big “college” guy.Wait. Nyu is 75k a year?
What is that by the minute? I'll take a ballpark figure.
I generally agree with this. But even if you take that approach, the question still remains as to whether dropping $300,000 on an NYU degree is the optimal way to give his dream the best shot.Assuming that this is a real passion of his (been acting in school plays, community theater, is a huge fan of theater/movies, etc) than I would encourage him. It's his life, he needs to do what will make him happy. From my perspective, I would rather be 60 and think, "damn I gave my dream the best shot I had" as opposed to being 60 and thinking, "why did I live my life for everyone else, I wonder what could have been". Plus NYU is a good school that offers other programs and he still may switch or double major.
Such a wonderful lament, no doubt.Assuming that this is a real passion of his (been acting in school plays, community theater, is a huge fan of theater/movies, etc) than I would encourage him. It's his life, he needs to do what will make him happy. From my perspective, I would rather be 60 and think, "damn I gave my dream the best shot I had" as opposed to being 60 and thinking, "why did I live my life for everyone else, I wonder what could have been". Plus NYU is a good school that offers other programs and he still may switch or double major.
That is an excellent point as well.I generally agree with this. But even if you take that approach, the question still remains as to whether dropping $300,000 on an NYU degree is the optimal way to give his dream the best shot.
he could take a quarter that, and put towards a stella adler or other top notch acting studio, while doing odd jobs and trying to break into the industry.That is an excellent point as well.I generally agree with this. But even if you take that approach, the question still remains as to whether dropping $300,000 on an NYU degree is the optimal way to give his dream the best shot.
Right. At least being at NYU he will walk out with something impressive for a resume. If he changes his mind on acting, then he's enrolled at NYU and has a lot of great program options to pivot too. I think it just important to be real with him about the upside and downside of all the differing decisions.he could take a quarter that, and put towards a stella adler or other top notch acting studio, while doing odd jobs and trying to break into the industry.
that said- chances are he wouldn't break into the industry, be out the money, and be out any other useful education to allow for a different career.