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Cowboys WR Owens Practices (1 Viewer)
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Banger
Footballguy
Seriously. He was the #2 wr in the league last year while playing with a broken finger that required surgery. Looks like he'll be another good value this year....
Prof. Chaos
Footballguy
Read some where last year he had not learned the play book completly. If he gets up to speed this could be a monster year. 
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
It "appears" that TO "may" have turned the corner, i.e. His contact with Romo to encourage him after the miss snap, he called up the new head coach to welcome him team and they talked for hours. TO now shows up when NO ONE was expecting him to be there for the camp, including the owner and coach.
Eventhough I'm still not a supporter of TO, I'm not a hater either. When he does something bad it's on "every" news outlet yet when he does something good you'll hear nothing.
All those that drafted TO in the 3rd, 4th, or even 5th round are going to get a steal.
Eventhough I'm still not a supporter of TO, I'm not a hater either. When he does something bad it's on "every" news outlet yet when he does something good you'll hear nothing.
All those that drafted TO in the 3rd, 4th, or even 5th round are going to get a steal.
flapgreen
Footballguy
This bum has taken a shot at every coach and team he's ever played for. He's a loser and always will be. It's a shame there has to be guys like this around to constantly spew negativity. I can't think of many others, who haven't been arrested, that are worse for the game than TO. 
zoonation
Footballguy
This bum has taken a shot at every coach and team he's ever played for. He's a loser and always will be. It's a shame there has to be guys like this around to constantly spew negativity. I can't think of many others, who haven't been arrested, that are worse for the game than TO.
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Banger
Footballguy
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
To those that think this shows TO has "turned a corner": he hasn't. He's already badmouthed Parcells (albeit in his most diplomatic fashion) and once the season gets up and running he'll revert back to his old form.
I've never questioned his heart and he always starts off with the best of intentions but he is what he is.
I've never questioned his heart and he always starts off with the best of intentions but he is what he is.
fatness
Footballguy
I'll defend Charles Manson if he's a lock for 1200 yards and double digit TDs, particularly if he's going in the 3rd round. There's two kinds of fantasy owners- those that let personal feelings dictate their draft strategy, and those that do well at fantasy football.Some people will defend him to the very end. It doesn't matter what he says or does.AnonymousBob said:
flapgreen
Footballguy
Never said I wouldn't draft him.I'll defend Charles Manson if he's a lock for 1200 yards and double digit TDs, particularly if he's going in the 3rd round. There's two kinds of fantasy owners- those that let personal feelings dictate their draft strategy, and those that do well at fantasy football.Some people will defend him to the very end. It doesn't matter what he says or does.AnonymousBob said:
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Hello Bob, In all fairness, Ware, JJ, and Williams have also said some things about Parcells and from I've seen they didn't say anything that we didn't already know. TO said the "locker room will be different"..........agreed, "you don't have to be a disciplinarian to get your players focused"............agreed, so what did he say that was so bad? Again, I not a fan of TO, never have never will be eventhough I drafted him.AnonymousBob said:
But since the season ended he's said nothing to warrant any bad news.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I'm not saying I won't draft the guy-I think he could prove to be great value. Personal feelings won't stop me from drafting a fantasy player (I'll likely have Vick on my team again).
I'm simply trying to tell everyone to not believe any signs he's more of a team player this year. He'll be a fantasy force and about halfway through the season (give or take 8 games) he'll cancer will start spreading.
He's a tremendous talent and a lousy influence on the team. Neither of those things will change this year.
I'm simply trying to tell everyone to not believe any signs he's more of a team player this year. He'll be a fantasy force and about halfway through the season (give or take 8 games) he'll cancer will start spreading.
He's a tremendous talent and a lousy influence on the team. Neither of those things will change this year.
-primetime-
Footballguy
I want to know exactly what Owens did last year that was so awful and makes him the biggest ##### in the league?
he had one incident that wasn't created by the media nad that was spitting in Hall's face after he just got done torching him on the feild...
this guy can't even go to mini-camp with out the media causing a scene over it...it is really ridiculas.
He was asked what he learned in his one year with parcells and he said "nothing really"...HE WAS JUST TELLING THE TRUTH!...and now everyone is blowing up as though he just spit in Parcell's face and slept with his wife...
T.O. has given us no reason at all to think that he has been a locker room cancer and Romo has even praised him on several occasions and said he is glad to have T.O. as a team mate.
Everyone needs to get off his jock and stop viewing every single move he makes with a damn microscope...
he had one incident that wasn't created by the media nad that was spitting in Hall's face after he just got done torching him on the feild...
this guy can't even go to mini-camp with out the media causing a scene over it...it is really ridiculas.
He was asked what he learned in his one year with parcells and he said "nothing really"...HE WAS JUST TELLING THE TRUTH!...and now everyone is blowing up as though he just spit in Parcell's face and slept with his wife...
T.O. has given us no reason at all to think that he has been a locker room cancer and Romo has even praised him on several occasions and said he is glad to have T.O. as a team mate.
Everyone needs to get off his jock and stop viewing every single move he makes with a damn microscope...
Owens up to 6 in the rankings. I can buy everybody but Reggie Wayne. Wayne's career best season in 2004 when his quarterback threw 49 touchdowns was still 3FPs shy of what TO put up last year with a broken finger and a green QB.
Considering Manning has a new toy to play with at WR and he isnt likely to throw 50 tds this season, i just dont get it.
Considering Manning has a new toy to play with at WR and he isnt likely to throw 50 tds this season, i just dont get it.
zoonation
Footballguy
I don't get it either. Although, I am happy the way it is. Owens will be available at the top of the third round again, and I will just pencil in my 80-1200-12td (with serious upside) this year.
mozzy84
Footballguy
this sounds like it was written in 2006, I don't see him falling in drafts this year at all, I guess I am missing the value part.
Thats where he's landing in the expert rankings at the moment- but I agree that can be deceptive. Especially averages, since players can be so widely valued differently. There are a few picks there that i just dont believe would actually be made. If you are at the end of the 2nd round and have to choose between Owens and Wayne- unless you absolutely dont think Owens will make it through the season I dont see many people taking Wayne. But 12 out of 15 of the experts have Wayne ranked higher. That seems like a touch of groupthink to me. Owens has had at least 6 seasons clearly superior to Wayne's very best- and a couple of those in very recent memory. Its one thing to rank a guy, another to pull the trigger.
Pickle Rody
IBL Representative
The problem is, he brings it on himself. That can't be denied. Why didn't he say something positive? Or just say nothing at all? He did throw his former coach under the bus, to some degree, here.Now, as far as fantasy value, Owens is loaded with potential this year. Whether we like him or not, he has the opportunity to be a STUD wide receiver again this year. I'd rather think that his being physically involved in an early minicamp is a good indication that his hand/finger(s) is healing well. Which, in turn, bodes well for fantasy owners.....re-draft, keepers and dynasty. His auction value probably goes up a slight notch here as well.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
If he gets drafted where he's currently being projected then IMO that's a steal. Of course, drafts don't often follow projections...
Banger
Footballguy
He's finished 2nd, 32nd, 4th, 12th, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd over the last 7 years. He was on pace for another another top 5 finish prior to the Philly blowup where he was benched after 7 games. He's a "safe" pick in that he will finish higher than his draft position.
kensat30
Footballguy
Look at those year end rankings, and then look at his year end PPG rankings. Owens tends to miss a game or two every year, making him that much more valuable when you can plug in a backup during his off weeks. The year that Owens was benched in Philly was Steve Smith's breakout year right? Owens was outproducing Smith's numbers on a PPG basis that year...The guy has changed teams twice in the past few years, dealt with QB changes in the middle of the season, and yet he still puts up very very high fantasy numbers. He has already done what folks were hoping that Randy Moss could do in Oakland and are now hoping will happen in New England. Despite his situation, the guy is a stud wherever he goes and whenever he plays. All he does is score TDs. I don't really see how you can rank him outside of your top5 unless you have some sort of bias against the guy. Dropped passes don't count as negative points for any leagues that I am in.Bottomline, Dallas has a very potent offense. They have one of the strongest running games in the league with complimentary RB with different talents. And they pass the ball more than they run. Dallas has a stable of consistent and able WRs around TO that can make plays but won't cut into his target/production numbers. Witten is one of the top TEs in the league who can both block and run patterns downfield. And a young QB that has proven that he is elusive running the ball and evading sacks, and most importantly has shown that he can get TO the ball. I personally have TO ranked as the #1 overall WR. The guy averages around a TD a game when he is healthy and playing. And you can't say that for anyone else in the NFL.
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Banger
Footballguy
He dropped at least 3 sure 'easy' TD catches after he broke his finger last year (Owens drops balls anyway, but it was pretty clear some of those were injury induced). If he didnt break his finger he was the easy #1 WR last season.
If Owens plays all 16 games reasonably healthy and his QB doesnt get hurt or utterly collapse, he's very likely to be the #1 WR this season. Even with some significant setbacks that would kill any other of these guys seasons, he will be in the top 5. All you have to do with his rating is decide how likely it is he will play 16 games. And if anybody can figure out how to quantify that, let me know!
If Owens plays all 16 games reasonably healthy and his QB doesnt get hurt or utterly collapse, he's very likely to be the #1 WR this season. Even with some significant setbacks that would kill any other of these guys seasons, he will be in the top 5. All you have to do with his rating is decide how likely it is he will play 16 games. And if anybody can figure out how to quantify that, let me know!
kensat30
Footballguy
| 2004 phi | 14 | 3 -5 -1.7 0 | 77 1200 15.6 14 || 2005 phi | 7 | 1 2 2.0 0 | 47 763 16.2 6 |Well that bumps my projections to 110 for 1500 and 18TDs.
| 2006 dal | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 85 1180 13.9 13 |
35/209/3143/33
~16/95/1437/15
Looks like your projection is on the high side, but definitely possible if he stays healthy for a full 16. Pretty unlikely though. You have to go back all the way to 2001 for Owens last healthy 16 game season.
BTW:
2001 sfo | 16 | 4 21 5.2 0 | 93 1412 15.2 16
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Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
TO is innocent, read his book!
For real though, he's great value and personally, I'm willing to view TO in a different light considering what has transpired with McNabb and the Eagles since. Sure he might have polarized the locker room but i still haven't ruled out the possibility that McNabb shares a hefty percentage of the blame.
Given his career statistics i find it impossible, sans major injury, that he falls out of the top-5. Hell, even top-3. More efficient quarterbacking should be a boon to his top-3 finish last year. Consensus 6th?
For real though, he's great value and personally, I'm willing to view TO in a different light considering what has transpired with McNabb and the Eagles since. Sure he might have polarized the locker room but i still haven't ruled out the possibility that McNabb shares a hefty percentage of the blame.
Given his career statistics i find it impossible, sans major injury, that he falls out of the top-5. Hell, even top-3. More efficient quarterbacking should be a boon to his top-3 finish last year. Consensus 6th?
Routilla
Footballguy
That was my attempt at sarcasm. I just don't know what to expect from T.O. this year. If the DAL OL is improved which I think it might be and if the DEF is improved which I think it might be I could see DAL running more with JJ and MBIII. But if the DEF cannot get off the field and get stops then DAL will be throwing more. He should have a pretty good year regardless but it's tough to predict wild numbers.| 2004 phi | 14 | 3 -5 -1.7 0 | 77 1200 15.6 14 || 2005 phi | 7 | 1 2 2.0 0 | 47 763 16.2 6 |Well that bumps my projections to 110 for 1500 and 18TDs.
| 2006 dal | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 85 1180 13.9 13 |
35/209/3143/33
~16/95/1437/15
Looks like your projection is on the high side, but definitely possible if he stays healthy for a full 16. Pretty unlikely though. You have to go back all the way to 2001 for Owens last healthy 16 game season.
BTW:
2001 sfo | 16 | 4 21 5.2 0 | 93 1412 15.2 16
toxicbees
Footballguy
Wouldn't it be sweet if Owens was TE eligible?
mozzy84
Footballguy
gottcha, I didnt know that he is being ranked that low at the moment. I am pretty positive in any of my redraft leagues he will be one of the first 4 wide outs taken.
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