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[jetsjets1919]

if you have bledsoe in your fantasy league do u keep him or drop him??

 

[Monse]

I'm not a Bledsoe owner but I think he's lost any value that he had. I'd look for maybe Kitna (Week 8 Bye) or Charlie Batch.

 

[cstu]

Drop him, he's done.

 

[redman]

Drop him, he's done.

It's a tad early for that. If Romo throws 3 INT's again in the Carolina game, I think you'll see Bledsoe back out there. The Cowboys are still very much in the hunt for the division title so I don't think they're going to emphasize Romo's playing time over winning for the time being to the extent that they seem mutually exclusive.

 

[Bri]

I'm not sure Parcells coaches them next year. He's the vet. It's very interesting considerring 3 INTs in a half for Romo. Yeah in a half, not a full game. People are missing that point.

I would suppose it depends on what's available. FWIW I've got Kitna and he's been pretty good for me. I'm comfy with him.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I'm shocked anybody drafted him in the first place. That offensive line was a ticking time bomb.

 

[cstu]

I'm not sure Parcells coaches them next year. He's the vet. It's very interesting considerring 3 INTs in a half for Romo. Yeah in a half, not a full game. People are missing that point.I would suppose it depends on what's available. FWIW I've got Kitna and he's been pretty good for me. I'm comfy with him.

If Parcells is willing to bench him in a very important division game with the Cowboys only down 5 to go with a QB with almost no experience then I don't think Bledsoe is going to remain the starter. Parcells made a huge mistake based on emotion and paid for it. Now the Cowboys can't go back because Parcells will look like a moron for blowing the Giants game only to start Bledsoe again. Like I said it the game thread, if I'm Bledsoe I retire right now and say #### you to Parcells.

 

[Loopdog]

As a Cowboy fan, I despise Bledsoe and wanted Romo in the game in the worst way, BUT not like it happened last night. I think Parcells is finished as a top of the line NFL coach. He is a shell of his former self and personally, I think Bill Belichick made him what he was. He's never won without him and he never will with Dallas. You dont put a kid in who has NEVER played into a nationally televised game, at halftime, with the pressure to be the savior and bring the team back. He should have benched Bledsoe long ago, and he really should have done it before the Houston game if he was considering putting Romo in. That would have given Tony the week to prepare for Houston, an easy game by today's NFL standards, and then he could have worked on preparing for the Giants.

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

I have to give Bledsoe a pass on this one. This is the second time in his career that he is watching the end of his days as a starting QB, and this time he knows he probably won't get another shot. There was a lot giong through his mind. Sure, he should suck it up, but that is easier said then done. Regardless of what everyone thinks about Bledsoe, he is a gamer and he wants to play football and win.

 

[gorf]

I'm shocked anybody drafted him in the first place. That offensive line was a ticking time bomb.

 

[cstu]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

Wow, you know nothing about Bledsoe - he's one of the classiest guys in the NFL. As far as his "pouting", I don't think many QB's would be able to handle any better than he did. I'm done as a Cowboys fan after this. All I hear from other fans is how much Bledsoe sucks - despite the fact that at halftime they were only a TD from leading the division.

 

[PatsWillWin]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Bankerguy]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

Wow, you know nothing about Bledsoe - he's one of the classiest guys in the NFL. As far as his "pouting", I don't think many QB's would be able to handle any better than he did. I'm done as a Cowboys fan after this. All I hear from other fans is how much Bledsoe sucks - despite the fact that at halftime they were only a TD from leading the division.

I don't think he "sucks". However you have to agree that there are some big holes in his game.Romo brings a different skill set to the table which is intriguing to me.

It's clear this 2006 team is not winning the SB, so let's see what we got in Romo.

Perhaps it's time to draft a franchise QB.

 

[thayman]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

Wow, you know nothing about Bledsoe - he's one of the classiest guys in the NFL. As far as his "pouting", I don't think many QB's would be able to handle any better than he did. I'm done as a Cowboys fan after this. All I hear from other fans is how much Bledsoe sucks - despite the fact that at halftime they were only a TD from leading the division.

I hate the Cowboys (Redskins fan here) but I've always view Bledsoe as a classy guy.....well except for being a Cowboy.....

 

[cstu]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

Wow, you know nothing about Bledsoe - he's one of the classiest guys in the NFL. As far as his "pouting", I don't think many QB's would be able to handle any better than he did. I'm done as a Cowboys fan after this. All I hear from other fans is how much Bledsoe sucks - despite the fact that at halftime they were only a TD from leading the division.

I don't think he "sucks". However you have to agree that there are some big holes in his game.Romo brings a different skill set to the table which is intriguing to me.

It's clear this 2006 team is not winning the SB, so let's see what we got in Romo.

Perhaps it's time to draft a franchise QB.

The season is over now so I agree with going with Romo. The Cowboys won't win in NY, won't be able to win the division by their record and won't be a wild card.My issue that that Parcells blew the game last night by benching Bledsoe when a must win was within reach. I thought Bledsoe was doing a pretty good leading the Cowboys. His only two bad games were on the road against potential playoff teams with great defenses and was only down 5 at home vs. another tough defense. For that he gets benched.

 

[Bri]

I'm not sure Parcells coaches them next year. He's the vet. It's very interesting considerring 3 INTs in a half for Romo. Yeah in a half, not a full game. People are missing that point.I would suppose it depends on what's available. FWIW I've got Kitna and he's been pretty good for me. I'm comfy with him.

If Parcells is willing to bench him in a very important division game with the Cowboys only down 5 to go with a QB with almost no experience then I don't think Bledsoe is going to remain the starter. Parcells made a huge mistake based on emotion and paid for it. Now the Cowboys can't go back because Parcells will look like a moron for blowing the Giants game only to start Bledsoe again. Like I said it the game thread, if I'm Bledsoe I retire right now and say #### you to Parcells.

See you, and other people here, think Parcells cares how he's perceived for his decisions. He doesn't. Romo looked sharp in preseason and has been coming along. 3 INTs in a half, maybe he's not where we(fans, team, BP) thought he was. He doesn't have to go with Romo. He'll do whatever he wants. If he had to do things in this light, TO would have 20 targets a game and Witten wouldn't be staying in to block.I don't understand the last Bledsoe comment.

 

[cstu]

I'm not sure Parcells coaches them next year. He's the vet. It's very interesting considerring 3 INTs in a half for Romo. Yeah in a half, not a full game. People are missing that point.

I would suppose it depends on what's available. FWIW I've got Kitna and he's been pretty good for me. I'm comfy with him.

If Parcells is willing to bench him in a very important division game with the Cowboys only down 5 to go with a QB with almost no experience then I don't think Bledsoe is going to remain the starter. Parcells made a huge mistake based on emotion and paid for it. Now the Cowboys can't go back because Parcells will look like a moron for blowing the Giants game only to start Bledsoe again. Like I said it the game thread, if I'm Bledsoe I retire right now and say #### you to Parcells.

See you, and other people here, think Parcells cares how he's perceived for his decisions. He doesn't. Romo looked sharp in preseason and has been coming along. 3 INTs in a half, maybe he's not where we(fans, team, BP) thought he was. He doesn't have to go with Romo. He'll do whatever he wants. If he had to do things in this light, TO would have 20 targets a game and Witten wouldn't be staying in to block.

I don't understand the last Bledsoe comment.

Really? After getting benched for the 2nd half of a MNF game in the Cowboys biggest game of the year for his backup who had done nothing in the NFL? The guy had 6 TD's to 1 INT in the Cowboys 3 wins this year and had two bad road games against top defenses. Benching him down 5 points at the half was a terrible move and tells him that Parcells has zero confidence in him. Even if Parcells starts him against the Panthers he'll likely throw an INT and get benched again. to Parcells for throwing the Cowboys season away.

 

[Bri]

I don't understand the last Bledsoe comment.

Really? After getting benched for the 2nd half of a MNF game in the Cowboys biggest game of the year for his backup who had done nothing in the NFL? The guy had 6 TD's to 1 INT in the Cowboys 3 wins this year and had two bad road games against top defenses. Benching him down 5 points at the half was a terrible move and tells him that Parcells has zero confidence in him. Even if Parcells starts him against the Panthers he'll likely throw an INT and get benched again. to Parcells for throwing the Cowboys season away.

If a coach tells a player during the week he ha to take better care of the football and not throw costly INTs and has the backup run with the first team some. Then Drew throws a costly INT. Drew knew it was coming.I don't think any starting QB would like to see anyone taking his first team reps(unless you're Favre enjoying the time to rest )

I gotta throw something in here. Once I saw Strahan smack Drew early, I knew it'd be a long night for him. The Boys Tackles were horrible. I don't care who the backups were, they should have been put in IMO. Cutting Polite to play a LBer at FB was a stupid move IMO too. Heck, doing away with the FB was debated in preseason and I didn't like that either. Drew is a shell-shocked QB. I don't think Drew has ever had a good game being sacked 4 times in a half. As it turns out, Romo under pressure rushes things and throws INTs. The prob is the line not the QB. I don't think it matters who is back there. While I saw Romo buy some time with his feet, I also saw him run to one side and not even look to the other so he limitted his targets by doing it too.

I think Kiwi is a suhweet player. Lavar or not, the G-men can really bring it. The Boys won't face as ferocious a pass rush every week. I'd throw them that bone.

I really think BP has to sign Polite back and use a FB. If Fasano sits, then he sits. They need a last line of defense for the QB. Even if they haven't practiced it much, they've all played with FBs since peewee football and they can adjust just fine I'm sure.

 

[Bri]

Really? After getting benched for the 2nd half of a MNF game in the Cowboys biggest game of the year for his backup who had done nothing in the NFL? The guy had 6 TD's to 1 INT in the Cowboys 3 wins this year and had two bad road games against top defenses. Benching him down 5 points at the half was a terrible move and tells him that Parcells has zero confidence in him. Even if Parcells starts him against the Panthers he'll likely throw an INT and get benched again. to Parcells for throwing the Cowboys season away.

One other thing-Parcells did the impossible and got Vinny Testaverde to throw only a handful of INTs one year. He knows how to manage a QB that's throwing too many INTs.

 

[ookook]

Which is why Drew should THREATEN to retire if not given the chance to start again.

I personally think he has earned better treatment but that is me.

What would the Boys have at QB if he retires? Not much. Could they risk the strong possiblity of a Romo injury with their current backup? Not really.

Clearly, the o-line is a shambles. BP needed to come out and say that I still think DB might be a better QB but with the poor line play we needed to try something different.

Something different would be a fullback and re-inserting Bledsoe as starter. It just seems obvious he gives them a beter chance to win.

 

[PMENFAN]

As is, I think we will see Bledsoe again this year, but he's a terrible teammate. People say TO is bad, look at Drew pouting like a little girl on the sidelines after they pulled him. Not talking to anyone, not helping out his teammate Romo. He's a top flight jerk. We need a guy like Kurt Warner or Trent Dilfer, where they support their other QB even if the guy DID take his job.

You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about.

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

 

[PMENFAN]

Which is why Drew should THREATEN to retire if not given the chance to start again.

I personally think he has earned better treatment but that is me.

What would the Boys have at QB if he retires? Not much. Could they risk the strong possiblity of a Romo injury with their current backup? Not really.

Clearly, the o-line is a shambles. BP needed to come out and say that I still think DB might be a better QB but with the poor line play we needed to try something different.

Something different would be a fullback and re-inserting Bledsoe as starter. It just seems obvious he gives them a beter chance to win.

I think taking this route is childish, and the antithesis of a team player. The coach made a decision. He recognizes he's been underperforming, and Romos skill set fits in better with where the team is at this time. Maybe the bold seems obvious to you. It doesn't to most. Romos mobility seems obvious to me, and others. Both are going to throw the picks. Romos mobility will negate some of the weakness of the line, where Bledsoes immobility just kills 6-8 offensive plays a game.

 

[redman]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

 

[Bri]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

 

[redman]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Traded him.

Saturday.

For Carson Palmer.

 

[PMENFAN]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

I'm talking about his antics during the season when he had lost his job. He initially lost it to injury, to Brady, but when healthy BB said, the job was Bradys. Bledsoe sucked it up, came in for the Pitt game in the Divisional Playoffs, threw a crucial TD to Patten, because Brady was hurt, and finished the game. Brady came back for the AFC Championship and SB. Not a bit of whining, and genuine team support from Bledsoe. No whining. True character. He was traded after the season, at his request, and the teams conditions, because of money, he was IIRC, the top paid QB in the league at the time. If not the top, one of the top, because of a monster contract given by Carroll and Grier. They gave away money like it grew on trees. NE saddled Buffalo w/ the contract, and got their #1 pick, and rid the team of a backup QB making an elite salary. Search the threads at the time, because there was much discussion of the issue.

 

[redman]

NE saddled Buffalo w/ the contract, and got their #1 pick, and rid the team of a backup QB making an elite salary. Search the threads at the time, because there was much discussion of the issue.

This was one of my points. There's no way that NE would have traded him to a division rival unless if they thought that he was worth the contract he had.

 

[cstu]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

What does that have to do with Bledsoe being a team player? He did nothing but try to help Brady while he was recovering from his injury and even after he was healthy and Brady remained the starter.

 

[Frank Black]

Traded him.Saturday.For Carson Palmer.

Good 4 u

 

[pats3in4]

Keep Bledsoe on your bench and *maybe* start him, depending on the opponent. Simple rule of thumb:

- Against a bad defense: He's a HOFer.

- Against a good defense: He's an INT/sack machine.

He's been this way his *entire* career. Pats fans figured this out by 2002. Bills fans figured this out last year. Dallas fans are already figuring this out. If you don't understand this, it's probably because you aren't a diehard fan of these three teams and only know Drew from watching ESPN highlights.

 

[redman]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

What does that have to do with Bledsoe being a team player? He did nothing but try to help Brady while he was recovering from his injury and even after he was healthy and Brady remained the starter.

First of all, don't overreact. I'm not painting him as the anti-Christ. I'm just pointing out that the lack of headlines blaring about controversy in Bledsoe's prior NFL stops doesn't somehow make him a stellar mentor. A contrasting example here to my understanding would be Kurt Warner, who to my understanding has knocked himself out (pun intended) helping his backups to better their games.

 

[Bri]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody.

yeah they do. I'll get back to ya, gotta think on that.I don't doubt BB thought Bledsoe was a QB to fold under pressure, we all do too. BB is a master at scheming to put pressure on the QB so, yeah I see that angle too.

Before Manning, Bledsoe's the highest QB contract that comes to mind. I don't recall the # but "it rings a bell" so I would tend to think that they didn't want a highly paid backup. IIRC They had Huard as a vet backup that year too. While I never cared for him, I think they figured his Miami experience made him an experienced vet that was cheap. Also, the way the NFL works is once a QB does well (if not before)he's rich. Brady's money was coming.

The cap was probably 60(give or take) mil back then. 10-12 in QBs is not good for the team. Was Bledsoe's money used(albeit poorly) on Colvin, the top FA LB?

I think there's more to it than the simple initial thinking.

Oh BTW, Everson Walls(HOFer?) helped the G-men win a supe and was pretty big in the playoffs that year. Still though, gotta think on that.

Most I think of are not resigning them but going to division rival like Law and Milloy

OH Curtis Martin. There ya go

 

[PMENFAN]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

Of course there was the issue of having Brady there. Brady has also went on to become IMO the best QBs in the league. I have the same analysis of Bledsoe. If Brady's not there to step in, maybe history plays out differently, and Bledsoe goes back in. But, they did draft Brady, and develop him. Bledsoe is smart, but not an overly hard worker, at studying. I've never seen that. The indecisiveness, holding the ball, lack of confidence. I think it all stems from his pre-snap reads, and lack of confidence in them. Just my opinion. I like halberstoms analysis. Thanks for that. I agree completely with it.

 

[cstu]

Say what you want about Bledsoe as a QB, but anyone claiming that he has been anything less than a class act during his career is completely wrong.

http://www.sportshumanitarian.com/2005_Ind...os/bledsoe.html

In addition to his foundation, Bledsoe has served as International Chairman of the Children’s Miracle Network, helping to raise millions of dollars annually to benefit hospitalized children in 170 children’s hospitals nationwide. Bledsoe is a recipient of the Thurman Munson Humanitarian Award, the NFL Alumni Spirit Award for exemplifying the spirit of the NFL caring for kids and in 2004 received the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, chosen by his teammates for demonstrating balance between civic and professional responsibilities. He has also been recognized with the Ed Block Courage award, chosen by his teammates as the NFL player demonstrating the most courage and character.

 

[cstu]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

What does that have to do with Bledsoe being a team player? He did nothing but try to help Brady while he was recovering from his injury and even after he was healthy and Brady remained the starter.

First of all, don't overreact. I'm not painting him as the anti-Christ. I'm just pointing out that the lack of headlines blaring about controversy in Bledsoe's prior NFL stops doesn't somehow make him a stellar mentor. A contrasting example here to my understanding would be Kurt Warner, who to my understanding has knocked himself out (pun intended) helping his backups to better their games.

Sorry, but you're wrong about this one since that's exactly what Bledsoe did with Brady. Any Patriots fan will tell you that.

ALBERTS: Yes, Shannon that's a great point. I think the guy who really needs to be lauded for all of this is Drew Bledsoe. Here's a guy who signed a $100 million contract in the off-season. He was a premiere quarterback in the NFL, but things hadn't gone well. They started the season at 0 and 2. He came down with the injury.

When he came back and he was healthy and ready to play, the team was playing very well under Tom Brady. Drew Bledsoe did not choose to become a bad influence in the locker room. He supported Tom Brady, became a mentor to Tom Brady.

So I think one of the other reasons that the Patriots are in Super Bowl XXXVI is because of the way that Drew Bledsoe handed the whole quarterback non-controversy. What I mean is it could have been a very big issue and became a controversy and Drew Bledsoe didn't allow that to become.

FRYAR: And because Drew responded to the whole situation the way he did, he was very much a leader. He handled it very professionally. When he did get a chance to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers, his teammates responded to him.

If he were a cancer in that locker room or in the midst of all what was going on with the so-called quarterback controversy, when he got a chance to come in and do his thing against the Pittsburgh Steelers, his teammates would not have responded to him, but they did because he was the leader that he is.

O'BRIEN: You know, Nancy, here's a term we don't often use with football players. This is a man who used grace, and I'll add another one, maturity. How rare is that?

NEWMAN: Absolutely. Considerably rare, and I think the good point here too is as well, that not only did he get the job done in a supporting role, but he did it on the field as well, as Irving alluded to. He passed for 102 yards last week. He did his job on the field when called upon, after not having played since Week 2. There's a lot to be said for him.

O'BRIEN: Who knows? Maybe he'll be a coach someday, you know, the way he's - a mentor.

 

[redman]

Say what you want about Bledsoe as a QB, but anyone claiming that he has been anything less than a class act during his career is completely wrong.

http://www.sportshumanitarian.com/2005_Ind...os/bledsoe.html

In addition to his foundation, Bledsoe has served as International Chairman of the Children’s Miracle Network, helping to raise millions of dollars annually to benefit hospitalized children in 170 children’s hospitals nationwide. Bledsoe is a recipient of the Thurman Munson Humanitarian Award, the NFL Alumni Spirit Award for exemplifying the spirit of the NFL caring for kids and in 2004 received the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, chosen by his teammates for demonstrating balance between civic and professional responsibilities. He has also been recognized with the Ed Block Courage award, chosen by his teammates as the NFL player demonstrating the most courage and character.

NEAR AND DEAR TO HIS HEART

Owens holds one charity very near and dear to his heart, the Alzheimer's Association. His family is personally touched by Alzheimer's as his grandmother, Alice Black, is afflicted by the disease. In order to help find a cure, he has served as the celebrity chairperson for the Alzheimer's Association and even addressed Congress in 2003 to request more funding for Alzheimer's research.

In 2004, hosted a charity weekend in Atlanta, "Stars with a Cause," that benefitted the Atlanta Chapter of the National Alzheimer's Foundation. The weekend included a night of bowling, billiards, dominoes and cards. On Saturday, the stars made a visit to AG Rhodes Home, an Atlanta Alzheimer's care center to play bingo and sing karaoke. A celebrity basketball game also took place at Owens' home gym.

LinkAnd no, I'm not equating the two, just demonstrating that virtually all of these high-profile athletes get involved in some form of charitable work, if for no other reason than it's good PR.

 

[PMENFAN]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

What does that have to do with Bledsoe being a team player? He did nothing but try to help Brady while he was recovering from his injury and even after he was healthy and Brady remained the starter.

First of all, don't overreact. I'm not painting him as the anti-Christ. I'm just pointing out that the lack of headlines blaring about controversy in Bledsoe's prior NFL stops doesn't somehow make him a stellar mentor. A contrasting example here to my understanding would be Kurt Warner, who to my understanding has knocked himself out (pun intended) helping his backups to better their games.

Nobody is disagreeing with you, just adding to it. What you say is true. But, it doesn't change the fact that Brady has credited Bledsoe for helping him that year. Losman has credited him. Romo, I haven't heard it yet, but I assume the same. Warner is the same. But, neither has ever been happy about losing their job. They shouldn't be. But, neither has ever stopped helping their teamates, because they're classy teammates, which was the point of the discussion to begin with, not whether Bill Belichick felt Brady was a better long term solution than Bledsoe at QB. I'm sad for Bledsoe. I would have liked to see him QB a team to a Championship. I would have really liked for that team to have been the Pats. It just didn't happen. But, I'm not going to pretend that he was some teamate, sulking in the corner. He could have ripped the Pats apart in 2001, but he didn't. That great team chemistry, widely credited with helping to win the championship? How would it have fared if Bledsoe had the veterans pulling for him to start, ripping the locker room apart? He didn't do that. He was a teamate first.

 

[redman]

My thoughts exactly. Is he supposed to take the Kent Graham route and kick up his feet and count the money? He's got an emotional investment. Nothing wrong with that. His performance in the year he lost the job to Brady was one of the classiest ever. His tutelage with Losman was class, and he knew he was losing his job to Losman. Again with Romo, the writing has been on the wall, and he's been class all the way. My admiration for Bledsoe is there, but he has his weaknesses. At this point, I think Romo is a better option.

I don't know about Buffalo and Losman, but Belichick got rid of him in NE (to a division rival no less) because he didn't think he was as talented as most people did and because of his sense of entitlement regarding the starting job there even in the face of Brady's and the team's success. BB didn't think he was a team player. You can give him credit if you like for not running to the media, but that's not his personality anyway. The praise, however, is misplaced.

Bledsoe was highly paid and he had a chance to save $ AND take a top pick from a division opponent. Can look at it either way

Nobody trades a star player to their division rival. Nobody. Go read David Halberstam's biography on Bill Belichick, "The Education of a Coach."

I found particularly interesting the portions of the book that dealt with Belichick's evaluation of Bledsoe and Brady and the conclusion that Bledsoe was not the answer at QB.

In 2001 BB thought that Bledsoe held the ball for too long, lacked Brady's pocket awareness, was more mistake prone, and wasn't learning the offensive system the way that Brady was. (Sound familiar?) He also thought that Bledsoe had the very same sense of entitlement that he was trying to weed out of the roster in order to build a selfless, cohesive unit as evidenced by Bledsoe's repeated insistence that Belichick should put him back into the lineup in place of Brady because the team needed a veteran and because (supposedly) Belichick had promised him.

For all of these reasons, Belichick (a defensive minded coach of course) traded him within his own division to the Bills:

"Bledsoe was traded for a draft choice to Buffalo, a team in their own division, a decision that surprised some people but reflected Belichick's belief that Bledsoe was not a threat to him. The Patriots would have a 5-1 record against him over the next 3 years."

What does that have to do with Bledsoe being a team player? He did nothing but try to help Brady while he was recovering from his injury and even after he was healthy and Brady remained the starter.

First of all, don't overreact. I'm not painting him as the anti-Christ. I'm just pointing out that the lack of headlines blaring about controversy in Bledsoe's prior NFL stops doesn't somehow make him a stellar mentor. A contrasting example here to my understanding would be Kurt Warner, who to my understanding has knocked himself out (pun intended) helping his backups to better their games.

Nobody is disagreeing with you, just adding to it. What you say is true. But, it doesn't change the fact that Brady has credited Bledsoe for helping him that year. Losman has credited him. Romo, I haven't heard it yet, but I assume the same. Warner is the same. But, neither has ever been happy about losing their job. They shouldn't be. But, neither has ever stopped helping their teamates, because they're classy teammates, which was the point of the discussion to begin with, not whether Bill Belichick felt Brady was a better long term solution than Bledsoe at QB. I'm sad for Bledsoe. I would have liked to see him QB a team to a Championship. I would have really liked for that team to have been the Pats. It just didn't happen. But, I'm not going to pretend that he was some teamate, sulking in the corner. He could have ripped the Pats apart in 2001, but he didn't. That great team chemistry, widely credited with helping to win the championship? How would it have fared if Bledsoe had the veterans pulling for him to start, ripping the locker room apart? He didn't do that. He was a teamate first.

Fair enough. You're more informed about the Pats than I am and I may be reading too much into that section of the Halberstam book. I'd highly recommend that book as a read for any football fan - it's pretty rare when a writer the quality of Halberstam writes on a sports topic.