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Cower has NEVER won a road playoff game (1 Viewer)
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Peyton Marino
Footballguy
Other Pitt vs. Cinci thread down?
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by 
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Most teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
By the way, who is COWER?I think Mervin Lowis would tell you that doesn't mean much. This game is about the teams playing within those lines, and it's a game I wouldn't be shocked to see go either way.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
I'm willing to bet Bengals fans will hold on to tickets to their first playoff game in 15 years.Most teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
kupcho1
Footballguy
That's probably true. And its also probably true that the Bengals organization managed to see that only fans were able to buy tickets. Zero tickets were sold to brokers or scalpers.I'm willing to bet Bengals fans will hold on to tickets to their first playoff game in 15 years.Most teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
This has been going on for years and it hasn't stopped Steeler fans in the past. As a matter of fact, I'm waiting to hear back from a Bengal fan on buying their tickets right now. Also, Marvin Lewis hasn't won a playoff game, period.That's probably true. And its also probably true that the Bengals organization managed to see that only fans were able to buy tickets. Zero tickets were sold to brokers or scalpers.I'm willing to bet Bengals fans will hold on to tickets to their first playoff game in 15 years.Most teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
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Doug Drinen
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Yeah, that three-game sample size is pretty stout too.All things considered, Cowher's 8-6 home playoff record is probably more unimpressive than his 0-3 road playoff record.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
They may, we'll see.I'm willing to bet Bengals fans will hold on to tickets to their first playoff game in 15 years.Most teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Marvin Lewis has never won a playoff game. And if I were you, I'd look more at how a 5-win crappy Buffalo team spanked Cincinatti's first team and figure out what went wrong there before I started talking trash about upcoming games.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
No, actually, it isn't.
Unless you think that Cowher and co. will think it a good idea to suit up Tommy Maddox instead of Big Ben this week. Cinci's A-squad got beaten by a joke of a team, 2 weeks ago. Must feel good to prep like that for their first playoff run since Bell Biv DeVoe had a top 40 hit.
I counter that you don't get very large sample sizes in pro football. What we do know is that Cowher consistenly fails in the postseason, no matter the situation. A 15-1 club. A wild card team. Doesn't matter. He comes up short.
I don't see any way Cowher should be favored to win this game. He has proven time and again he can find a way to lose.
Doug Drinen
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I certainly agree with that....
...which is why I don't really feel comfortable with statements like that.
bigfun54
Footballguy
I guess this will be the week I'll have to stop being excited to read two of my favorite posters, Evilgrin and AhrnCity. I do know that tickets were made available only to season ticket holders first and they bought every last one of them. I don't know about the game. I know most Cincy fans weren't thrilled about the Steelers matchup, but I think that it honestly has more to do with the annoying Steelers fans that every office seems to have than anything else. I think it will be a good game either way. I would have to say that I will be extremely upset if there is a sizable contingent of Steelers fans there. For the regular season game, the numbers were way down from years past, but you could still hear and see them. I know people can make a good chunk of change from selling those tickets, but I hope it's Bengals fans buying them. Who freaking Dey this week and how about that $20 million under the cap for next year. The future is mighty bright down here in Bengal Land.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
In all honesty, I'm glad the Bengals have turned it around. It's hard not to liike Marvin Lewis and they have a solid young team. I always talk smack, because, well...you have to. (Newton's 4th Law?) I'll say this once to get it out of the way this week: If Cinci beats Pgh this week I will be pulling for the Bengals the rest of the way. Having said that, lets take the stupidiest team catch phrase the NFL has ever seen, sharpen the corners on it, and stuff it up some kitten orifice next weekend. Looking forward to a good game.
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I think most Cincy fans are not thrilled about playing the Steelers for 2 reasons.1) Bengals are 8-22 vs. the Steelers since Cowher took over.
2) Jacksonville, the way they'd been playing, would have been a much easier forst-round matchup, especially with Leftwich likely to be rusty after the long layoff.
That said, I think this game is a 50/50 proposition. If the Steelers can force some mistakes and get pressure on Palmer early, they'll seize an early lead. That makes them tough to beat. If the Bengals can jump ahead early and consistently move the ball, the way they did in Pittsburgh, they'll likely win because they have more firepower on offense. Should be a very entertaining game and could go either way.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
None if this makes any difference.THIS YEAR, they split two games. The Steelers won in Cincinnati in a dominating performance on both sides of the ball, and they kept the Bengals out of the endzone until the final minute of the game while running for 221 yards.The Bengals won in Pittsburgh by 7 points in a game where they were able to force 4 turnovers and return a kickoff for a TD. They also protected Palmer much better, allowing him time to have success through the air, albeit throwing for only 227 yards on 38 attempts. Rudi added almost 100 yards on the ground. The Steelers racked up close to 500 yards that day (almost 400 in the air) but couldn't overcome the turnovers.Cowher's past road playoff records in road games makes no difference this Sunday, and the better team will win the game.
bigfun54
Footballguy
Ahh, you guys are the best. Actually, it's nice for some Bengals fans to get knocked back to earth the last few weeks. I'm not one of those people who take the moral victory crap too seriously, but just getting the winning season and no playoff appearances off their back is huge for this organization, this town, and the fans. But some people don't get that. I've always said that being here in Cincy you're unfortunately surrounded by OSU football fans and UK basketball fans. Two groups who you have to love their passion, but who absolutely draw my ire for their inability to be objective about anything. Objectively, this is not the ideal matchup for the Bengals, but unless they play better defense in a hurry, I don't know if there is a good matchup for them. That being said, I'm ecstatic they're in the playoffs, that they went 11-5, that they won the division, and that I get to go to a home playoff game for the first time since I was 13. I'm also ecstatic all of their stars are signed and they're 20 million under the projected cap next year. It's just going to get better and better. They say it's only a rivalry if it's competitive and I think the Big Ben v Carson battle is going to rage for quite a few years.
ajlight
Footballguy
As a Bengals fan, given the way they played in the Bills game and then in the KC game, I'll take the Steelers straight up.But with a statement like that, it's as if you're almost saying, "Well they split the series this year, but the Bengals win wasn't really a win since the Steelers racked up all those yards and still had a chance, so they really didn't lose." Call it like it is, the series was split and a win is a win is a win.
Don't try to cheapen a win/loss with how the game was played out. You lost and Cincy won. Pretty simple.
The Steelers are playing better ball right now (and I could bring up they've been playing their starters for almost every snap over the past few games and that's a better judge of how they're playing right now, but I won't) and the Bengals have been struggling.
You know it as well as I do, the Cincy gameplan is simple. Pour it on early, get up big, force the Steelers to abandon the run and make Big Ben pass, and don't stop applying the pressure with the offense. If Pittsburgh can manage 30 carries this game is over and it's one and done for Cincy.
Quite simple really.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I wasn't trying to cheapen anything... they came into Pittsburgh, forced turnovers, returned a kick for a TD, and they made the plays to win the game. The Steelers' offense did well that day, but they turned the ball over too many times. I said Palmer had success in the air and Rudi ran for almost 100 yards, but I feel that the turnovers were clearly the difference in the game. A lot of people remember that game because the Bengals scored a lot of points, but they forget how well the Steelers did.That's not cheapening anything, and it doesn't take anything from the Bengals' win.
Edit to add that I didn't mean that the Steelers will definitely win when I said the better team will win. I meant whoever plays the best game this Sunday will win the game, and they'll have taken 2 of 3 this year.
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This doesn't mean PIT fans are better, just that they are Elitist with lots of money.Most teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
You're sure that's the answer you want to go with? There's an "edit" button under your post....If you're referring to my spelling of Elitist, I found this on dictionary.comBut I think you already proved my point about PIT fans. You're just not one of the smartest ones I guess
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e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
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e·litist adj. & n.
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elitist
n : someone who believes in rule by an elite group [ant: egalitarian]
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
1. Your assumption to begin with 2. Having to check the spelling of 'eleatust'3. Thinking that I was questioning your spelling4. Thinking that anyone needs help defining that wordYeah, I'm the one who's not so smart. Good call. please, keep posting. 
This is hilarious. You're calling him stupid and you don't even have a clue why he is telling you to edit your post. Because you don't seem to know what you're talking about, "elitist" and "lots of money" are the opposite of what most people would associate with people from Pittsburgh. If I had "lots of money" I'd give you some so you could purchase a clue.If you're referring to my spelling of Elitist, I found this on dictionary.comBut I think you already proved my point about PIT fans. You're just not one of the smartest ones I guess
2 entries found for elitist.
e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
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e·litist adj. & n.
[Download Now or Buy the Book]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
elitist
n : someone who believes in rule by an elite group [ant: egalitarian]
Hey, don't jump all over me. 
I was simply responding to Evilgrin's statement:"Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium"That sounded a bit snobbish to me. I really don't have a vested interest in who wins the PIT vs CIN game.
I was simply responding to Evilgrin's statement:"Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium"That sounded a bit snobbish to me. I really don't have a vested interest in who wins the PIT vs CIN game.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers have only played 3 road playoff games under Cowher. In all three games the Steelers were underdogs and 2 of those games went into OT. The last road playoff game was decided on a very questionable roughing-the-kicker call which gave Tennessee K Del Greco a second chance to kick the game winning FG in OT.The second OT loss was against a QB named Joe Montana. You might remember him, he was the guy that beat the Bengals TWICE in the Super Bowl.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Cowher's post-season record: 8-9Cincinnati Bengals ALL-TIME post-season record: 5-7
WHO DEY indeed...
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Franknbeans
Footballguy
Cleveland Brown ### spanker
MarshallRob
Footballguy
Until today.
WE DEY!!!!!In the locker room, the Steelers twisted the Bengals "Who Dey" cheer."We called it 'We Dey,'" Ward said. "We Dey put their ### out of the tournament. It was a great day today."Porter remembered Chad Johnson saying that the torch had been passed in the AFC North when the Bengals beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh Dec. 4. He remembers Johnson saying the change was like going from black-and-white television to color TV. "I'm going to send him the new plasma black-and-white TV," Porter said. "Hopefully, he's going to get the chance to watch us in our playoff game in Indianapolis." 
Always remember you are still the Bengals
Always remember you are still the Bengals
SSOG
Moderator
This just demonstrates how stupid those little "Shanahan is 0-3 without Elway" and "Cowher is 0-3 on the road" stats are.If a coach is a good coach, he's going to be able to win games. End of story. Also, 3 games can easily be a quirk of chance rather than a meaningful trend.I suspect someone is now going to say that Cowher is 0-3 on the road in games where the other starting QB throws more than one pass, or some other such nonsense.
The Ref
Footballguy
Evil,Serious question for you. Is there anything out there in terms of what Pro teams travel the best. I'm curious what the results would be. What I can say is i travel to one Patriots away game every year and it seems like more often then not there are a great ## of Pats fans every place I go to. With that being said, I think it's fair to say theMost teams don't have a lot of single-game tickets available during the regular season either. Steeler fans don't typically buy tickets from the box office for road games, they buy them from ticket holders who are willing to part with their seats for a premium. That's why Steeler fans are the best fans in the league, as they've said on TV and Sirius radio a number of times in the past few weeks. With the Packers having an awful year, the Steeler fans have really stepped to the fore in terms of supporting the team on the road.Pretty sure playoff tickets for this game were made available in cincy loooooong before Pitt fans even knew they'd be in the playoffs. They'd be lucky to have any tickets left to buy.Is this really considered a road game for the Steelers? Cowher is 11-3 in his career at Cincy, surrounded by
would be near, if not on top of, said list.Nice W Today. I for one would like to see another Home game this year so good luck in Indi.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
That literally made me laugh out loud.
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CrossEyed
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One fact that everyone missed. Bill Cowher has never lost a playoff game to a divisional opponent. After today he is 4-0.
SSOG
Moderator
Yet another completely meaningless stat, especially when you consider that Cowher has never before today played a divisional opponent who won the division. In the other 3 games, his team was the better team (just look at the fact that they won the division and their opponent did not). The better team usually wins.
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CrossEyed
Guest
Agreed. While we're on meaningless stats, the Steelers are 4-0 against the Baltimore/Indy Colts in the playoffs.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Funny how things change in a week. But congrats to the Cincinnati Bengals, Division Champs! I am sure those shirts and hats are selling like hotcakes!
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Bengals defense was simply unable to stop the Steelers offense, led by the slumping "huge problem" QB Ben Roethlisberger. Kitna put up 17 points in the first half and twice gave the Bengals double-digit leads. The Bengals defense is going to need to improve if their going to win in the playoffs, regardless of who their QB is.Cowher and his coaching staff did an outstanding job, making the necessary adjustments on defense at halftime and great play calling on offense.
The classy thing for you to do would be to give him some credit on a job well done but I wouldn't bet on it.
Warsteinner
Footballguy
Well I hope the SOB wins his 2nd road playoff game next week.
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