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Crabtree Signs Six Year Deal (1 Viewer)
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comfortably numb
Footballguy
Over/Under on how long it takes for a pulled hammy?
2.5 weeks
Any early thoughts on when he gets some gametime?
SF plays ATL this week, and they have a week 6 BYE.
Does he play his 1st game week 7?
2.5 weeks
Any early thoughts on when he gets some gametime?
SF plays ATL this week, and they have a week 6 BYE.
Does he play his 1st game week 7?
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Bad move by the 9ers.
Sinrman
Footballguy
It should have never taken this long. Crabtree's first year is a waste, in my opinion. He has a LOT of catching up to do, as I doubt they just handed a playbook over to him as he's holding out. They weren't sure that they'd be able to sign him at all, so why let him see your plays? He and the 9ers better hope that he stayed in shape the whole time, or he's going to pull something quick...
Crabtree had no leg to stand on. Hold out and get thrown back into the draft and likely get drafted LATER than you did the year before... smart!
Crabtree had no leg to stand on. Hold out and get thrown back into the draft and likely get drafted LATER than you did the year before... smart!
morris4903
Footballguy
Definitely could see him in for a limited amount of plays by week 7. He has basically three weeks until that game. Niners are looking playoff worthy so he could make a difference for that offense by playoff time.
Clavin
Footballguy
The guy has talent, but I'm going to predict a train wreck for the 49ers on this one over the long term. Not only did he play hard ball on negotiations to the infinite degree, showing more passion for being paid than playing, but it didn't seem like he was saying the right things off the field either. I'm thinking the issues that were identified with this guy by other teams will bubble up.
What I can't figure is how you fuss about Matt Stafford's unresolved issues with his parents' divorce then draft this guy. And is Hill suddenly going to become the dyanmic QB capable of getting the most out of this guy?
Dark days ahead.
What I can't figure is how you fuss about Matt Stafford's unresolved issues with his parents' divorce then draft this guy. And is Hill suddenly going to become the dyanmic QB capable of getting the most out of this guy?
Dark days ahead.
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I heard on NFL radio this morning that his mother actually talked sense into him,. Also, after seeing that 9ers look like a good bet to win the NFC West, Crabtree probably saw his negotiating power slipping away.
Anyway, now that he's had to come crawling back, hopefully he can get into shape and contribute in the second half.
Anyway, now that he's had to come crawling back, hopefully he can get into shape and contribute in the second half.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I thought the league no longer allowed 6 year deals for rookies.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I still cannot believe he signed...what a waste of a season at this point.
There is a lot of pressure to prove himself on the field now, I am sure 49er fans will be critical of his every move.
There is a lot of pressure to prove himself on the field now, I am sure 49er fans will be critical of his every move.
at worst hes a solid backup WR that the 49ers can use in redzone packages
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Maybe I am wrong, but as long as SF keeps winning, his scrutiny will be minimal.He will be looked at as an added bonus this year, gravy if you will.If SF loses 3 of the next 4 games, Crabtree's head may be on a stake outside the stadium.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Being a Longhorns homer and a big 12 watcher....this kid is the real deal. I know he has been a total pain in the ### but just wait until he gets on the field for the 9ers and all hate will be gone. This kid is a hard worker and his play on the field backs up his work ethic.
Once he gets on the field it wont take long for this kid to become a playmaker. He cant be any worse than the bums they are trotting out there anyway. This is great news for Shaun Hill.
Once he gets on the field it wont take long for this kid to become a playmaker. He cant be any worse than the bums they are trotting out there anyway. This is great news for Shaun Hill.
Frank Black
Footballguy
Hedgehog, you might have the funniest username and avatar on this board.
Has anyone heard any rumours about how good of shape Crabtree is in?
"Crabtree is expected to report to 49ers headquarters and begin working with the team immediately. While he's been working out religiously with a personal trainer, he'll have a ways to go before he's in true NFL game shape. It's believed that he won't be game ready for at least another week or two." -roto.Hedgehog, you might have the funniest username and avatar on this board.Has anyone heard any rumours about how good of shape Crabtree is in?
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
I believe that's what happened as well. Someone got in his ear about San Fran would overpay once they started out 0-4 and then in Week 4 he says, "Uh oh, they really don't need me".JuniorNB said:
Hasn't EVERY player in contract negotiations shown more desire to get paid vs. playing? Comments like that are a joke. Just because you love something doesn't mean you should do it for less cash. Many of you seem to be forgetting he was busting his butt with SF long before the season started...working out like a mad man, trying to get in shape, and attempting to get on the field when his foot wasn't fully healed.He may or may not be a bust, but I doubt his work ethic will be a problem in the least.Clavin said:
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Insoxicated
Considering Hill hasn't exactly been lighting it up, I think it's reasonable to temper expectations for Crabtree in the SF offense. Had he started the season off properly they would have had time to built elements of the offense around him and gameplan to get the ball into his hands in open space. As it stands now they're having to shoehorn him into the puzzle on the fly.
I don't doubt they will find ways to get him the ball and maybe expand on the playbook a bit as the season goes on, but at least initially Hill will still be hovering in that 200yds/1-2TD range. Crabtree will likely at least start off with projections in the 40-60yds with 0.3ish TD chances. Probably a decent WR3.
As the season goes on and Hill matures and has time to gel with Crabtree, and as SF has time to tweak the offense, Crabtree could become more of a force down the stretch and into the playoffs as SF has a one of the more favorable schedules toward WRs in weeks 14-16.
IF you weren't' able to get Crabtree off waivers, you might be able to move for him around weeks 8-10 as some less than realistic owners could be expecting the moon early on and might be a little disappointed....though I wouldn't break the bank for him.
Just my .02
I don't doubt they will find ways to get him the ball and maybe expand on the playbook a bit as the season goes on, but at least initially Hill will still be hovering in that 200yds/1-2TD range. Crabtree will likely at least start off with projections in the 40-60yds with 0.3ish TD chances. Probably a decent WR3.
As the season goes on and Hill matures and has time to gel with Crabtree, and as SF has time to tweak the offense, Crabtree could become more of a force down the stretch and into the playoffs as SF has a one of the more favorable schedules toward WRs in weeks 14-16.
IF you weren't' able to get Crabtree off waivers, you might be able to move for him around weeks 8-10 as some less than realistic owners could be expecting the moon early on and might be a little disappointed....though I wouldn't break the bank for him.
Just my .02
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Let's not pretend that Crabtree will happily play out all six years if he's as good as he thinks he is.
belljr
Footballguy
Well they got the 6th because this year is a mini wash.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I heard a rumor that they were knocking off $200K from the SB every week he didn't sign. Did that happen?
Bogart
Footballguy
And for those worried about Shawn Hill, Crabtree was destroying records at TT with a QB who can't get a starting gig anywhere right now. Give credit to Leach and his system if you want, but watching the one on one battles with good Big 12 defensive backs, Crabtree was a man among boys. Get the ball in his area and he will go and get it.Let's not pretend any wr would.
I'm well aware of that. Some others in this thread, not so much.
So then you agree the deal's length is all downside for the 49ers, since it won't be honored if Crabtree outperforms it? Doesn't sound like a great signing to me.
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Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, etc. dominated the collegiate ranks in very good conferences. That's not to say that Crabtree will be a bust, but he's ceratinly no lead-pipe lock to succeed at the next level. Destroying records at Texas Tech does not guarantee anything, as the very startying quarterback you mentioned has proved.Crabtree has finally taken the first step to proving his TT stats are relavent. He's going to try it against pro defenders.And for those worried about Shawn Hill, Crabtree was destroying records at TT with a QB who can't get a starting gig anywhere right now. Give credit to Leach and his system if you want, but watching the one on one battles with good Big 12 defensive backs, Crabtree was a man among boys. Get the ball in his area and he will go and get it.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Means he will be holding out in year 6 instead of being a free agent going elsewhere.Long deals, even if they must be reworked, are about having exlusive negotiating rights.
By this line of thinking signing any wr, ever, for a length of more than one year is a bad signing.The reality of the situation is if he's a bust, it's a bad signing. If he lives up to what everyone says is his potential, he's worth the deal.And if he's a stud in the vein of Fitz, SF will be more than happy to renegotiate the contract when the time comes.You may not like the way the NFL works but that's fairly standard. If he's a bust SF will force him to renegotiate for lower. If he's a stud Crabtree will force SF to renegotiate for higher.But as of right now, it's a great signing.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
I honestly doubt he's much of a factor this year in terms of fantasy football. No training camp, no rapport with Hill, and a run first offense. I do believe he is a talent, but I'd be shocked if he put up more than 350/3 from here on out. 2010 could be a much different story.
A rookie WR who misses all of training camp and 25% of the season = little or no impact this year.
I think the transition from playing in a spread offense to the pro game is a significant hurdle.
But I think the biggest problem is his immaturity. I don't think it will take long before he is getting some 'tough love' from Singletary as we saw last year with Vernon Davis.
I think the transition from playing in a spread offense to the pro game is a significant hurdle.
But I think the biggest problem is his immaturity. I don't think it will take long before he is getting some 'tough love' from Singletary as we saw last year with Vernon Davis.
I really don't see much production this year. Bruce is somewhat dependable and Morgan has the big play potential and seems to be a very good blocker which will keep him on the field in that offense. Maybe he will come in as a #3 or in the redzone. 2010 production is really up to Crabtree. In that offense, its going to be Gore and maybe Coffee as the focus. If he develops, what would be his upside? Maybe Derrick Mason numbers or Cotchery? I am asking , not predicting.
zadok
Footballguy
TO.
I don't know about that. IIRC, TO had some serious speed to go along with that incredible size. I don't believe Crabtree has been known for his wheels.
Do you mean for this year or his career? Fantasy or real life?
zadok
Footballguy
Just talking statistically. Although I do see similarities in their violent RAC style.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
EBF has been comparing him to Dwayne Bowe and Anquan Boldin.
Those are much better comparisons.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Why? They gave him the same deal they offered back in July. Crabtree missed out on playing football, bad move on his agent's part.Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
