Creating a Draft Pick Value Chart (1 Viewer)

[(HULK)]

How do I go about doing this?

Our league last year had a horrendeous draft pick trade, and people want to prevent this from happening again. Our own chart would be useful for other owners evaluating the trade, and we would likely create a requirement that any draft pick trade could not favor any one team more than X percentage points or something.

I realize that there is a great draft pick calculator available on this site, but its not quite right for my needs.

For one, its an 8 team league. (Keep your 8 team league negative comments to yourself... this is a group of buddies who've been very tight for 15 years, and the league could not possibly be larger). I think the draft pick trade calculator is calibrated for a 12 team league. And for two, we've got 2 keepers... one open keeper and one sleeper keeper (must be drafted round 9 or later, can only be kept 1 year). Given these two factors, I don't think the FBG calculator is accurate for our league, as the #1 overall pick is representative of the 17th player off the board (although oftentime better than most sleeper keepers) and that picks in the early 9th round have an extra value due to the ability to get an early crack at a sleeper keeper.

So, does given the set up of my league, does anyone have any ideas as to how to construct this type of chart?

TIA.

 

[(HULK)]

Anyone have any ideas?

I was think of using the average values from the AVT discussions to come up with some sort of chart for the pick values.

 

[gang-wars]

How do I go about doing this?

Our league last year had a horrendeous draft pick trade, and people want to prevent this from happening again. Our own chart would be useful for other owners evaluating the trade, and we would likely create a requirement that any draft pick trade could not favor any one team more than X percentage points or something.

I realize that there is a great draft pick calculator available on this site, but its not quite right for my needs.

For one, its an 8 team league. (Keep your 8 team league negative comments to yourself... this is a group of buddies who've been very tight for 15 years, and the league could not possibly be larger). I think the draft pick trade calculator is calibrated for a 12 team league. And for two, we've got 2 keepers... one open keeper and one sleeper keeper (must be drafted round 9 or later, can only be kept 1 year). Given these two factors, I don't think the FBG calculator is accurate for our league, as the #1 overall pick is representative of the 17th player off the board (although oftentime better than most sleeper keepers) and that picks in the early 9th round have an extra value due to the ability to get an early crack at a sleeper keeper.

So, does given the set up of my league, does anyone have any ideas as to how to construct this type of chart?

TIA.

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.You're trying to educate them with a pick value list chart, just send them here.

 

[(HULK)]

How do I go about doing this?

Our league last year had a horrendeous draft pick trade, and people want to prevent this from happening again.  Our own chart would be useful for other owners evaluating the trade, and we would likely create a requirement that any draft pick trade could not favor any one team more than X percentage points or something.

I realize that there is a great draft pick calculator available on this site, but its not quite right for my needs.

For one, its an 8 team league.  (Keep your 8 team league negative comments to yourself... this is a group of buddies who've been very tight for 15 years, and the league could not possibly be larger).  I think the draft pick trade calculator is calibrated for a 12 team league.  And for two, we've got 2 keepers... one open keeper and one sleeper keeper (must be drafted round 9 or later, can only be kept 1 year).  Given these two factors, I don't think the FBG calculator is accurate for our league, as the #1 overall pick is representative of the 17th player off the board (although oftentime better than most sleeper keepers) and that picks in the early 9th round have an extra value due to the ability to get an early crack at a sleeper keeper.

So, does given the set up of my league, does anyone have any ideas as to how to construct this type of chart?

TIA.

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.You're trying to educate them with a pick value list chart, just send them here.

Some of these trades are made on the fly. And people want a rule to ensure there isn't a repeat of last year.Last year we saw: 1.7,3.7,10.2,12.2,13.7 traded for

5.6,6.3,9.2,9.6,10.3

A couple of people tried to veto, but were shouted down.

 

[kbleck]

unfortunately reallife and fantasy football are not going to match up easy in this area. Fantasy football is all based on people's opinions on players and what is a good trade and what is a bad trade. Fantasy owners have "favorite" teams and different reasons for making trades etc.

If someone is a newbie to the Fantasy football world they tend to make stupid moves. The more experienced owners will try and take advantage of that but that is part of the game.

In my opinion, you really dont need to setup some type of system like this because it really takes away from the fun of the league. If one of your owners is a complete mess and not doing well then maybe they need to not play. Or if they learn from their mistakes for the next year then that is how this stuff works.

You really only need to put rules in place to protect the league against collusion, ie two teams trading to make one team really good.

 

[(HULK)]

unfortunately reallife and fantasy football are not going to match up easy in this area. Fantasy football is all based on people's opinions on players and what is a good trade and what is a bad trade. Fantasy owners have "favorite" teams and different reasons for making trades etc.

If someone is a newbie to the Fantasy football world they tend to make stupid moves. The more experienced owners will try and take advantage of that but that is part of the game.

In my opinion, you really dont need to setup some type of system like this because it really takes away from the fun of the league. If one of your owners is a complete mess and not doing well then maybe they need to not play. Or if they learn from their mistakes for the next year then that is how this stuff works.

You really only need to put rules in place to protect the league against collusion, ie two teams trading to make one team really good.

Everyone in the league is old friends... and the league's been around for 5 years... so no one is a total noob... but some people just don't pay attention like others do.This trade last year, I think a lot of it had to do with a personal relationship between the two owners, meaning the owner who got screwed happen to be a closer to the screwer than anyone else.

 

[GregStarling]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

 

[P Boy]

Everyone in the league is old friends... and the league's been around for 5 years... so no one is a total noob... but some people just don't pay attention like others do.This trade last year, I think a lot of it had to do with a personal relationship between the two owners, meaning the owner who got screwed happen to be a closer to the screwer than anyone else.

Wait a minute. Someone traded a 1st & 3rd rounder for essentially a 5th & 6th rounder. And you say there are no noobs?I'd use the word boob instead of noob. Even a newbie wouldn't have made a trade like that. And that the opposers were shouted down really makes me wonder about the league....

 

[CA_7]

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

 

[Dolfan]

Some of these trades are made on the fly. And people want a rule to ensure there isn't a repeat of last year.

Last year we saw: 1.7,3.7,10.2,12.2,13.7 traded for

5.6,6.3,9.2,9.6,10.3

A couple of people tried to veto, but were shouted down.

Was the 1st owner on drugs?

Or just really good friends with the 2nd owner?

 

[(HULK)]

Everyone in the league is old friends... and the league's been around for 5 years... so no one is a total noob... but some people just don't pay attention like others do.

This trade last year, I think a lot of it had to do with a personal relationship between the two owners, meaning the owner who got screwed happen to be a closer to the screwer than anyone else.

Wait a minute. Someone traded a 1st & 3rd rounder for essentially a 5th & 6th rounder. And you say there are no noobs?I'd use the word boob instead of noob. Even a newbie wouldn't have made a trade like that. And that the opposers were shouted down really makes me wonder about the league....

Trust me, if these weren't people I went to highschool with awhile ago, and if the prize wasn't inexpensive, I would've quit on the spot.The Commish is the one who made the trade with the weakest owner. The weak owner thought getting earlier sleeper keeper picks was enough to offset the other part of the trade.

Strangely enough, I was the only one who opposed it strongly as it was happening. A couple of days later though, the rest of the league all thought it was BS.

 

[(HULK)]

Some of these trades are made on the fly.  And people want a rule to ensure there isn't a repeat of last year.

Last year we saw: 1.7,3.7,10.2,12.2,13.7 traded for

5.6,6.3,9.2,9.6,10.3

A couple of people tried to veto, but were shouted down.

Was the 1st owner on drugs?

Or just really good friends with the 2nd owner?

He clearly got conned. Conned so bad he still thinks it was a fair trade to this day.

 

[(HULK)]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

Yes, it is something exactly like this that I am looking for. It would be much easier to just tweak and existing one than to create a new one from scratch.Please link an 8 team one, or PM it to me if you can... thanks so much!

 

[P Boy]

Some of these trades are made on the fly.  And people want a rule to ensure there isn't a repeat of last year.

Last year we saw: 1.7,3.7,10.2,12.2,13.7 traded for

5.6,6.3,9.2,9.6,10.3

A couple of people tried to veto, but were shouted down.

Was the 1st owner on drugs?

Or just really good friends with the 2nd owner?

He clearly got conned. Conned so bad he still thinks it was a fair trade to this day.

That must have been one hell of a reach around.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

Yes, it is something exactly like this that I am looking for. It would be much easier to just tweak and existing one than to create a new one from scratch.Please link an 8 team one, or PM it to me if you can... thanks so much!

What about one for a 12-team league....???

 

[pigskinliquors]

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

this should be your sole source.

 

[(HULK)]

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

this should be your sole source.

That really doesn't work well for an 8 team league, as I noted in my first post.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

this should be your sole source.

Does anyone make adjustments for keeper leagues? In other words if you use Dodds calculator (and correct me if I am wrong this is the same as the NFL does?) would you start after the 48th pick in a 4 man keeper league of 12 teams? So the first pick is really the 49th?

 

[code]

I do this each year for our league...

I use 3 years AVT values, then determine the last starter by position and computer VBD X values...then I create a function to shift the values up so the top pick is worth 2500 (which makes it so even in late rounds the picks have some positive value)...

Now, our league is a keeper, so I actually do a little more to extract the kept players from the values...this part is more art than science, but the basic principal is the same...

At the end of the day you're just trying to gives owners an estimate of pick value...

 

[radballs.]

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

this should be your sole source.

Does anyone make adjustments for keeper leagues? In other words if you use Dodds calculator (and correct me if I am wrong this is the same as the NFL does?) would you start after the 48th pick in a 4 man keeper league of 12 teams? So the first pick is really the 49th?

Yeah, you have to do it that way except the rookies will dramatically skew the numbers.

 

[GregStarling]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

Yes, it is something exactly like this that I am looking for. It would be much easier to just tweak and existing one than to create a new one from scratch.Please link an 8 team one, or PM it to me if you can... thanks so much!

What about one for a 12-team league....???

12 team league

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

Yes, it is something exactly like this that I am looking for. It would be much easier to just tweak and existing one than to create a new one from scratch.Please link an 8 team one, or PM it to me if you can... thanks so much!

What about one for a 12-team league....???

12 team league

NICE..thanks

 

[GregStarling]

Just give everyone in the league the FBGs link, and tell them to go ask in AC before they make a trade.

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

this should be your sole source.

there are other sources out there. footballguys is great, but sheesh man, expand your horizons a bit.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

That really doesn't work well for an 8 team league, as I noted in my first post.

What you can do is wait for the Draft Dominator to come out this year. Put in your league's rules and roster sizes, and then have the DD calculate auction values.If you list all the players' auction values in order from highest to lowest, you'll know what each draft slot is worth. (The top pick is worth the highest player's auction value. The fifth pick is worth the fifth highest player's auction value. And so on.)

Just add up the pick values for each side (based on the corresponding players' auction vlaues) and you'll be able to evaluate the parity of the trade.

 

[GregStarling]

That really doesn't work well for an 8 team league, as I noted in my first post.

What you can do is wait for the Draft Dominator to come out this year. Put in your league's rules and roster sizes, and then have the DD calculate auction values.If you list all the players' auction values in order from highest to lowest, you'll know what each draft slot is worth. (The top pick is worth the highest player's auction value. The fifth pick is worth the fifth highest player's auction value. And so on.)

Just add up the pick values for each side (based on the corresponding players' auction vlaues) and you'll be able to evaluate the parity of the trade.

this will work if you want to go this route. If you want something you can download and pass out at the draft. I've updated my chart for an 8 team league. For your situation, just ignore the 1st round. 8 team pick value calculator

 

[(HULK)]

That really doesn't work well for an 8 team league, as I noted in my first post.

What you can do is wait for the Draft Dominator to come out this year. Put in your league's rules and roster sizes, and then have the DD calculate auction values.If you list all the players' auction values in order from highest to lowest, you'll know what each draft slot is worth. (The top pick is worth the highest player's auction value. The fifth pick is worth the fifth highest player's auction value. And so on.)

Just add up the pick values for each side (based on the corresponding players' auction vlaues) and you'll be able to evaluate the parity of the trade.

this will work if you want to go this route. If you want something you can download and pass out at the draft. I've updated my chart for an 8 team league. For your situation, just ignore the 1st round. 8 team pick value calculator

Thanks a ton for this!

 

[GregR_2]

Suggestion...

The pick chart you're talking about is a fabrication to try to represent market value... which it won't always represent right. Rather than do that, it would be easier (and I'll argue better) to just force all trades to be subjected to market value before being approved. I wouldn't recommend this for hardcore or cut throat leagues... but you seem to be placing avoiding strife higher on your priority than you do allowing cut throat behavio.

Two ways you can do this. First is you can require any team looking to make a trade to announce it leaguewide. Then if the league sits back and let's someone else make a bad offer that turns out to be the best, it's their fault because they had the chance to set market value with at least a minimum of what they would have given. Really this is only forcing owners to do what they already should... shop around before accepting an offer.

Or alternately and more extreme, you could make all trades go through market value after they are accepted. Basically you'd announce the trade's parameters but other teams would have X days to come in with counter-offers that could be switched to. If it's a markedly bad offer, someone will make a better one. (Also helpful is that if someone doesn't switch to an obviously better offer, they had better have good justification or it's pretty good evidence of collusion.)

One thing at play here is that a lot of people's view is out of whack as to what is really market value. I have the latter rule in 2 leagues that are more about getting some friends together than about being cut-throat. It has worked very well. Time and again someone will privately complain about a trade to another, and get asked, "Well why didn't you make him a better offer?" The reply is always, "Oh, well, it wouldn't benefit my team to." Duh, and that's why the trade endedup what it did instead of what the guy thought it should have. A lot of people in FF think "someone" should have given them more, but aren't willing to do it themselves.

Just my 2 cents. (And by the way, yeah, that was an egregious trade you posted!)

 

[Pictus Cat]

My league posts the draft pick trade with the draft pick calculator results.

1. The owner offers a trade with the draft pick calculator results.

2. If the other owner accepts with an email reply, then the trade is posted with the trade and calculator results to the league to make it official.

3. The league has 7 days to come up with a majority to veto based on the trade being grossly unfair.

Note: No trade has been overturned since inception.

 

[JMon348]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

Yes, it is something exactly like this that I am looking for. It would be much easier to just tweak and existing one than to create a new one from scratch.Please link an 8 team one, or PM it to me if you can... thanks so much!

What about one for a 12-team league....???

12 team league

NICE..thanks

does look nice but here it says24th and 25th picks > 2nd overall

if i was the owner of the 1st pick and 24th and 25th, i would trade my 2nd and 3rd rounder for the chance at LT and LJ

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

 

[GregStarling]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

just for reference, the footballguys has thisick 2= 1,823

Picks 24 and 25= 1,883

thecoordinator has this:

Pick 2= 1,714

Picks 24 and 25= 1,766

basically, this is saying Pick ONE

Tomlinson, Alexander, L. Johnson

is worth about the same as:

Pick TWO:

Dillon, C. Johnson, Harrison, Ron. Brown, Fitz, Jam Lewis, Kev Jones

depending on who is around and your league setup, you'll get two of the guys above

Seems pretty legit to me and definitely not >>>

If I traded Larry Johnson for Chad Johnson AND Ronnie Brown, no one is going to think that is too crazy.

 

[JMon348]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

just for reference, the footballguys has thisick 2= 1,823

Picks 24 and 25= 1,883

thecoordinator has this:

Pick 2= 1,714

Picks 24 and 25= 1,766

basically, this is saying Pick ONE

Tomlinson, Alexander, L. Johnson

is worth about the same as:

Pick TWO:

Dillon, C. Johnson, Harrison, Ron. Brown, Fitz, Jam Lewis, Kev Jones

depending on who is around and your league setup, you'll get two of the guys above

Seems pretty legit to me and definitely not >>>

If I traded Larry Johnson for Chad Johnson AND Ronnie Brown, no one is going to think that is too crazy.

i only gave two >> not three >>>

 

[Liquid Tension]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

just for reference, the footballguys has thisick 2= 1,823

Picks 24 and 25= 1,883

thecoordinator has this:

Pick 2= 1,714

Picks 24 and 25= 1,766

basically, this is saying Pick ONE

Tomlinson, Alexander, L. Johnson

is worth about the same as:

Pick TWO:

Dillon, C. Johnson, Harrison, Ron. Brown, Fitz, Jam Lewis, Kev Jones

depending on who is around and your league setup, you'll get two of the guys above

Seems pretty legit to me and definitely not >>>

If I traded Larry Johnson for Chad Johnson AND Ronnie Brown, no one is going to think that is too crazy.

Ok so if I am in a 4 man keeper 12 team league (taking rookies out of the equation), I would start at pick 49 as the number one overall...correct?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

just for reference, the footballguys has thisick 2= 1,823

Picks 24 and 25= 1,883

thecoordinator has this:

Pick 2= 1,714

Picks 24 and 25= 1,766

basically, this is saying Pick ONE

Tomlinson, Alexander, L. Johnson

is worth about the same as:

Pick TWO:

Dillon, C. Johnson, Harrison, Ron. Brown, Fitz, Jam Lewis, Kev Jones

depending on who is around and your league setup, you'll get two of the guys above

Seems pretty legit to me and definitely not >>>

If I traded Larry Johnson for Chad Johnson AND Ronnie Brown, no one is going to think that is too crazy.

Ok so if I am in a 4 man keeper 12 team league (taking rookies out of the equation), I would start at pick 49 as the number one overall...correct?

That'd be right.

 

[code]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

just for reference, the footballguys has thisick 2= 1,823

Picks 24 and 25= 1,883

thecoordinator has this:

Pick 2= 1,714

Picks 24 and 25= 1,766

basically, this is saying Pick ONE

Tomlinson, Alexander, L. Johnson

is worth about the same as:

Pick TWO:

Dillon, C. Johnson, Harrison, Ron. Brown, Fitz, Jam Lewis, Kev Jones

depending on who is around and your league setup, you'll get two of the guys above

Seems pretty legit to me and definitely not >>>

If I traded Larry Johnson for Chad Johnson AND Ronnie Brown, no one is going to think that is too crazy.

Ok so if I am in a 4 man keeper 12 team league (taking rookies out of the equation), I would start at pick 49 as the number one overall...correct?

That'd be right.

I think this is an extreme simplfication...This is where my art v. science comment above is applied...a few available players will be better than kept players...so what I do is rank the players, roughly based on my rankings and VBD and draft tendencies...then I simply cross off the numbers of the guys that are kept and the remaining numbers are the values of each pick...

 

[fsufan]

Here is an idea. Let owners run their own team. Do you see NFL teams cry about trades, NO?

 

[(HULK)]

Suggestion...

The pick chart you're talking about is a fabrication to try to represent market value... which it won't always represent right. Rather than do that, it would be easier (and I'll argue better) to just force all trades to be subjected to market value before being approved. I wouldn't recommend this for hardcore or cut throat leagues... but you seem to be placing avoiding strife higher on your priority than you do allowing cut throat behavio.

Two ways you can do this. First is you can require any team looking to make a trade to announce it leaguewide. Then if the league sits back and let's someone else make a bad offer that turns out to be the best, it's their fault because they had the chance to set market value with at least a minimum of what they would have given. Really this is only forcing owners to do what they already should... shop around before accepting an offer.

Or alternately and more extreme, you could make all trades go through market value after they are accepted. Basically you'd announce the trade's parameters but other teams would have X days to come in with counter-offers that could be switched to. If it's a markedly bad offer, someone will make a better one. (Also helpful is that if someone doesn't switch to an obviously better offer, they had better have good justification or it's pretty good evidence of collusion.)

One thing at play here is that a lot of people's view is out of whack as to what is really market value. I have the latter rule in 2 leagues that are more about getting some friends together than about being cut-throat. It has worked very well. Time and again someone will privately complain about a trade to another, and get asked, "Well why didn't you make him a better offer?" The reply is always, "Oh, well, it wouldn't benefit my team to." Duh, and that's why the trade endedup what it did instead of what the guy thought it should have. A lot of people in FF think "someone" should have given them more, but aren't willing to do it themselves.

Just my 2 cents. (And by the way, yeah, that was an egregious trade you posted!)

People don't want to announce their draft pick trades until the first of the picks in the trade is actually on the clock. No one wants to tip their hand.This chart will be a decent guideline. That all I'm looking for.

 

[(HULK)]

Here is an idea. Let owners run their own team. Do you see NFL teams cry about trades, NO?

Just trying to keep my league fair. One owner, who for some reason is percieved as extremely fair by many, has hosed two different guys in back to back years.I like competition, but I don't like starting out a race a length behind because some people are stupid.

 

[P Boy]

Here is an idea. Let owners run their own team. Do you see NFL teams cry about trades, NO?

Every trade is reviewed by the league.

So, do you think that: 1) One NFL team would essentially offer a 1st & a 3rd for a 5th & a 6th, and 2) That the league would allow the trade if it were submitted?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

Okay, I'm done with my pick value calculator and I'm pretty confident that it gives good answers for a 12-team league that starts 1/2/3/1/1/1 with 18-player rosters.The second pick is worth 104.8.

The 24th pick is worth 38.6; the 25th pick is worth 37.4.

So the second pick is worth more than the 24th and 25th picks, IMO.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

Okay, I'm done with my pick value calculator and I'm pretty confident that it gives good answers for a 12-team league that starts 1/2/3/1/1/1 with 18-player rosters.The second pick is worth 104.8.

The 24th pick is worth 38.6; the 25th pick is worth 37.4.

So the second pick is worth more than the 24th and 25th picks, IMO.

MT,Is this for a keeper league, and with how many keepers?

 

[bigreese82]

10 Team League

If that is what you're looking for, I could do one for an 8 team league as well. It doesn't completely take into consideration the whole keeper aspect, but I would just ignore round 1 and start with round 2. PM me if you're interested in one.

Yes, it is something exactly like this that I am looking for. It would be much easier to just tweak and existing one than to create a new one from scratch.Please link an 8 team one, or PM it to me if you can... thanks so much!

What about one for a 12-team league....???

What about a 14 team league? Thanks in advance

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

does that seem right, to me the 2nd overall pick is >> 24,25th picks

On my own personal pick value calculator, the 2nd pick is worth 96, the 24th pick is worth 40, and the 25th pick is worth 38. So going by that, the 2nd is worth more than the 24th and 25th.Edit: But I'm not very confident at all right now that my pick value calculator is realistic. It's still in very rough draft form, and I know it still needs work.

Okay, I'm done with my pick value calculator and I'm pretty confident that it gives good answers for a 12-team league that starts 1/2/3/1/1/1 with 18-player rosters.The second pick is worth 104.8.

The 24th pick is worth 38.6; the 25th pick is worth 37.4.

So the second pick is worth more than the 24th and 25th picks, IMO.

MT,Is this for a keeper league, and with how many keepers?

No keepers.

 

[Deuceman]

In a 10 team dynasty (rookie) draft.

Guy traded 1.2 for 1.8 and 2.3

I think the guy who got 1.2 did well.

The pick calc says NOT!?

 

[Warpig]

Anyone have any ideas?

I was think of using the average values from the AVT discussions to come up with some sort of chart for the pick values.

Try this:

Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7        1 3,000 33 580 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2      2 2,600 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8      3 2,200 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4      4 1,800 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13      5 1,700 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6      6 1,600 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2      7 1,500 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8      8 1,400 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4      9 1,350 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11      10 1,300 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6      11 1,250 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2      12 1,200 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8      13 1,150 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4      14 1,100 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9      15 1,050 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6      16 1,000 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2      17 950 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8      18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4      19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7      20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6      21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2      22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8      23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4      24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5      25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6      26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2      27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8      28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4      29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3      30 620 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6      31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3      32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2

 

[twister101]

hey deuceman after you made the trade you have to sit back and watch all those players being selected before you get another pick in the 3rd. plus you should have taken williams instead of maroney