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Crispin Glover misunderstood genius (1 Viewer)

wrote a book about catching rats. literally- catching rats.

my old college room-mates were obsessed with him (both actors) and would call the supposed home number he listed- in the book about catching rats- constantly.

####### LOVE him and that shtick.

 
Big fan of River's Edge.

Glover was great in that - really, he was money in everything he did back in the '80s.

 
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Odd guy for sure...

I did think he made a great point about Back to the Future though: basically that by setting things right in the past, it brings positive change to the McFly but in the wrong way. They could have just been more successful and happy, but instead the happiness was portrayed with things like the truck and the Mercedes and the like.

I thought it was a decent observation.

 
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saintfool said:
Give me Brother Theodore appearances on Letterman.
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these early Letterman years always makes me think of crispin and brother theodore.

saw him live a couple of times in a tiny room/performance space.

- to audience member after insulting him... "if you were a man, you'd knock my teeth out.... if you were half a man, you'd knock half my teeth out."

- "when I die, I want my head severed at the neck and replaced with a stalk of broccoli."

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El Floppo said:
saintfool said:
Give me Brother Theodore appearances on Letterman.
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:wub:

these early Letterman years always makes me think of crispin and brother theodore.

saw him live a couple of times in a tiny room/performance space.

- to audience member after insulting him... "if you were a man, you'd knock my teeth out.... if you were half a man, you'd knock half my teeth out."

- "when I die, I want my head severed at the neck and replaced with a stalk of broccoli."
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i remember the first time i got to NYC - maybe '93? - and was thumbing through the Village Voice. there was a little blurb in the entertainment section promoting Brother Theodore's show and i was delighted. i never saw him but i liked that it was real. that was the thing about the original Letterman show, it was alive. it celebrated NYC in all its eccentricities and charm. there was nothing like it - or since, really - when it was on NBC.

 
saintfool said:
El Floppo said:
saintfool said:
Give me Brother Theodore appearances on Letterman.
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:wub:

these early Letterman years always makes me think of crispin and brother theodore.

saw him live a couple of times in a tiny room/performance space.

- to audience member after insulting him... "if you were a man, you'd knock my teeth out.... if you were half a man, you'd knock half my teeth out."

- "when I die, I want my head severed at the neck and replaced with a stalk of broccoli."
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i remember the first time i got to NYC - maybe '93? - and was thumbing through the Village Voice. there was a little blurb in the entertainment section promoting Brother Theodore's show and i was delighted. i never saw him but i liked that it was real. that was the thing about the original Letterman show, it was alive. it celebrated NYC in all its eccentricities and charm. there was nothing like it - or since, really - when it was on NBC.
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so true. it wasn't always the known celebrity. more like what Jon Stewart does now in terms of bringing interesting but not globally known people in, but entertainment/art/nyc and not literary/politico slant.

what was great about that crispin bit, as compared to brother theodore, was that dave had no idea what was going on. you could see the pages in the wtf is going on handbook turning rapidly behind his eyes. loved that. also love how he played up and on brother theodore's character... but was definitely on the same team.

seems like there used to be more of that kind of guest- where dave would realize mid-interview that things were going haywire. I remember emo phillips going on and getting yanked from the sofa for doing an admittedly poor taste bit about a rape victim- you could see dave turn on him in a flash and just kill the whole thing.

 
shuke said:
So were the Letterman appearances shtick?
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in what sense?

Glover came on that first one in character (just a different character than Dave was expecting... IIRC, from some smaller project he was working on). Dave- and I certainly believe what's been said based on his reaction- had no idea what was going.

later appearances were more planned out and expected- at least by Dave- imo.

 
El Floppo said:
shuke said:
So were the Letterman appearances shtick?
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in what sense?

Glover came on that first one in character (just a different character than Dave was expecting... IIRC, from some smaller project he was working on). Dave- and I certainly believe what's been said based on his reaction- had no idea what was going.

later appearances were more planned out and expected- at least by Dave- imo.
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I know this is what everyone says but it makes no sense to me. He's introduced as Crispin Glover, answers questions about himself, and refers to articles written about himself. If he's in character, he's not doing a good job. My theory is this "in character" part was a spin job after the fact.

 
Juxtatarot said:
El Floppo said:
shuke said:
So were the Letterman appearances shtick?
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in what sense?

Glover came on that first one in character (just a different character than Dave was expecting... IIRC, from some smaller project he was working on). Dave- and I certainly believe what's been said based on his reaction- had no idea what was going.

later appearances were more planned out and expected- at least by Dave- imo.
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I know this is what everyone says but it makes no sense to me. He's introduced as Crispin Glover, answers questions about himself, and refers to articles written about himself. If he's in character, he's not doing a good job. My theory is this "in character" part was a spin job after the fact.
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he's an actor... you're aware of that, right?

 
El Floppo said:
Juxtatarot said:
El Floppo said:
shuke said:
So were the Letterman appearances shtick?
Click to expand...
in what sense?

Glover came on that first one in character (just a different character than Dave was expecting... IIRC, from some smaller project he was working on). Dave- and I certainly believe what's been said based on his reaction- had no idea what was going.

later appearances were more planned out and expected- at least by Dave- imo.
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I know this is what everyone says but it makes no sense to me. He's introduced as Crispin Glover, answers questions about himself, and refers to articles written about himself. If he's in character, he's not doing a good job. My theory is this "in character" part was a spin job after the fact.
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he's an actor... you're aware of that, right?
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Of course.

 
At some point, jacking around with identity leads to the confusion of many people. It's not just not getting the shtick. People have no idea what's genuine, fake, real. At some point, it's just a sick power play. While I'm able to appreciate some of the humor, I have no sympathy for the downside that happens whereupon people dislike that person, or in radical cases, can't even fully believe whether they're alive or dead (think Andy Kaufman or others that have tried the trick) which might actually serve as a great big capital-letter metaphor about the perils of being an identity-playing, whack-off navel gazer.

 
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Juxtatarot said:
El Floppo said:
shuke said:
So were the Letterman appearances shtick?
Click to expand...
in what sense?

Glover came on that first one in character (just a different character than Dave was expecting... IIRC, from some smaller project he was working on). Dave- and I certainly believe what's been said based on his reaction- had no idea what was going.

later appearances were more planned out and expected- at least by Dave- imo.
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I know this is what everyone says but it makes no sense to me. He's introduced as Crispin Glover, answers questions about himself, and refers to articles written about himself. If he's in character, he's not doing a good job. My theory is this "in character" part was a spin job after the fact.
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Watch the Johnny Carson show that took place before Letterman.

 
From wiki... this was the same story I heard too.

Glover appeared on Late Night with David Letterman on July 28, 1987, to promote the movie River's Edge, in which he starred.[9] Unbeknownst to Letterman and the audience, Glover appeared in character as "Rubin", from a then-unreleased movie Rubin and Ed, wearing platform shoesand a wig. Rather than a conventional interview, Glover staged an Andy Kaufman-like prank. After being goaded by a woman in the audience (who some argue had been planted),[10] Glover stated that he "knew that this was gonna happen" and that "the press, they can do things, they can twist things around". After challenging Letterman to an arm-wrestling match, Glover delivered an impromptu karate kick a few feet from Letterman while stating, "I'm strong... I can kick!"[11] Letterman then abruptly ended the segment by walking off stage, saying "I'm going to check on the Top 10", as the program cut to commercial.

The subsequent confusion and controversy surrounding his appearance was compounded by the fact that Rubin and Ed was not actually released until 1991; however, the movie had been in development since before Back to the Future — Crispin had actually already devised Rubin's "look" by 1985.[12] Almost no one, apparently including Letterman, understood what Glover was doing and the interview became the hallmark of the "weird" TV guest.

Glover returned to the Letterman show twice after that, the first about a month later, and then again almost 3 years after where he participated in a more nearly standard interview, but made it questionable whether he was ever on the show before and used a variety of delay tactics explaining the incident; he did say something about it being "an interesting thing." Glover then appeared two years later promoting a record album. When again asked about his first appearance, Glover launched into a long story, mentioning meeting a fellow resembling himself named Rubin, and needing to appear on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson simultaneous to his appearance with Letterman. Here Letterman cut him off to talk about the album Glover was promoting, as the time allotted for the interview was more than halfway over. Glover has subsequently refused to go into detail about the reasons for his behavior on the show, other than to mention that he's flattered that fans are still speculating on the performance more than twenty years later.[13] Glover has also mentioned that he prefers there to be an "air of mystery" about the appearance.
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eta: so maybe Rubin and Ed was real life, and his real life was an act?

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
sublimeone said:
He just an eccentric dude. I don't believe it to be an act https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmR6F4g4Gok
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That's a very normal appearance though, that seems to truly be him.
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The thing that stood out to me in this interview was that Conan is talking about 90% of the time. I've never seen Conan do an interview like this... where he's talking significantly more than the person he's interviewing. I wonder if Crispin has some kind of communication issue/disability and he has come off so odd in previous interviews that they asked Conan to carry the conversation and allow Crispin to throw in his two cents here and there.

 
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