cantstop1999
Footballguy
i have both but im hoping cullpepper gets yanked soon he sucks. chambers will light it up if harrington comes in ,you heard it he first.
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cullpepper being replaced yet ? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter cantstop1999
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Man! You didn't watch any Detroit games...did you.
cantstop1999
Footballguy
i did those wrs for det. also sucked.
jzygmunt
Footballguy
ESPN's resident child-molestor-lookalike (John Clayton) was just blabbing on countdown about this. He said that Saban said that this week's game against Houston was Culpepper's best yet, and that he is in no danger of being benched. Now or in the future.
And are seriously toting JOEY HARRINGTON as some kind of savior? Wow. Just wow.
And are seriously toting JOEY HARRINGTON as some kind of savior? Wow. Just wow.
Delusions Of Adequacy
Footballguy
Uh.....let me help you out.Miami's OL can't run block.Miami's oL can't pass block.P. Manning can't help you under these conditions. And you're banking on Harrington?
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Wasn't I just in this thread? I swear it's deja vu all over again.
matuski
Footballguy
Did you accept this excuse for Joey and KJ the last few years in Detroit?
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Two things going on here.
1. Those calling for Joey Harrington are grossly overestimating Joey Harrington.
2. Those saying that Culpepper is bad because of the o-line and that "Peyton Manning couldn't do anything" on the Dolphins are grossly underestimating how badly Culpepper himself as played.
1. Those calling for Joey Harrington are grossly overestimating Joey Harrington.
2. Those saying that Culpepper is bad because of the o-line and that "Peyton Manning couldn't do anything" on the Dolphins are grossly underestimating how badly Culpepper himself as played.
fsufan
Footballguy
have you see the O line play. it is not all Culpepper's fault.
Evilhomer3k
Footballguy
3. Gus Ferrotte played pretty well last year. I don't think the O-line deteriorated that badly.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
Are you trying to tell me Harrington is as good a QB as Culpepper now ? Look at Hasselbeck last night, he couldn't do crap with all that presurre in his face. Culpepper is getting sacked around 5 times a game, and pressured A LOT.Look what Jones did yesterday with some blocking, look what R. Brown did last year, O-line play is VERY important. Give me a marginal RB with a great line instead of a marginal line with a HOF running back any day of the week.
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Sheriff66
Footballguy
You're kidding, right ?I was exagerating slightly with the Manning comment, but not by much, he would have a tough time moving this offense with that line...
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Horses Mouth
Footballguy
cantstop1999
Footballguy
the oline might suck but harrington can move ,cullpepper cant move at all.......
Delusions Of Adequacy
Footballguy
From former NFL scout Chris Landry:
A number of other quarterbacks are playing poorly, but there are other issues that are contributing to that. Changing the quarterback is not always the answer, unless he's beaten down physically or mentally and not processing information accurately.
Making a change at a position without addressing the other problems is just cosmetic. If you had transmission problems on your automobile, would changing the tires help? Or would it simply make one situation better without addressing the more significant issue?
Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cl-a...o&type=lgns
A number of other quarterbacks are playing poorly, but there are other issues that are contributing to that. Changing the quarterback is not always the answer, unless he's beaten down physically or mentally and not processing information accurately.
Making a change at a position without addressing the other problems is just cosmetic. If you had transmission problems on your automobile, would changing the tires help? Or would it simply make one situation better without addressing the more significant issue?
Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cl-a...o&type=lgns
Delusions Of Adequacy
Footballguy
And yes, an O-Line can deteriorate significantly in one year [see Oakland Raiders].
matuski
Footballguy
Your OP is verbatim the excuses used for Harrington the last few years. Bottom line is if Culpepper can't get it done he needs to sit.That is what I'm saying.
Yes, Culpepper didn't play badly yesterday, the playcalling has been bad most of the season. Why are they not running Ronnie Brown more for starters? Especially yesterday and in the Buffalo game. And then why did the offense suddenly wake up on the last 2 drives when they sleptwalk the first 3 quarters? The o-line has been bad, yes, but the playcalling this year has been equally as bad, if not worse.
Horses Mouth
Footballguy
exactly. Culpepper actually looked faster running yesterday. there were a multitude of other problems besides just Culpepper.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Mortenson was on EEI this morning and he was talking about how Dan Marino thinks that Culpepper has just "lost it" and looks completely lost on the field. He also said that Marino thought that Harrington could get the shot to play if Culpepper is struggling in the Dolphins next home game.FWIW.
bbuster
Footballguy
Why is it that no one accepts those same reasons when it was Favre who was struggling?
detfan782004
Footballguy
Roy Williams is better than Chambers. Look at what ROy has done without Joey this year. Nuff said. He is not upgrade of C Pep.
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
I agree that playcalling and oline is the problem.
But I can't start Daunte again.
When you run Ronnie Brown 5 times in the first half of a 3 pt game, your offensive coordinator is doing a horrible job of balancing things out.
But I can't start Daunte again.
When you run Ronnie Brown 5 times in the first half of a 3 pt game, your offensive coordinator is doing a horrible job of balancing things out.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
Flawed thinking IMO...So throwing an inferior QB with less mobility out there is going to cure the problem with the O-line and the play calling ??? What does Harringtons situation last year have to do with the situation Culpepper is in this year on a different team ?
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I ####### love it, Joey plays behind a crappy O-line in Detroit and it's all Joey's fault.
Culpepper plays worse and behind a crappy O-line, and it's the O-lines fault.
Culpepper plays worse and behind a crappy O-line, and it's the O-lines fault.
I had Culpepper, I have had him on my teams for the last 5 years.
He suffered a MAJOR injury and it is amazing that he is playing at all.
I do think it has affected his game. But it is not his entire fault.
What is up with the play calling...Saban has Brown and does nothing to get the running game going.
This is forcing CPep to the air without the pocket protection he needs because he can't roll out like he used to.
I had to drop him for another QB I can count on. I have Brown as well, I am sticking with the guy who at some point may get 20-30 touches a game,
JOEY is not the missing link to the Phins problems
He suffered a MAJOR injury and it is amazing that he is playing at all.
I do think it has affected his game. But it is not his entire fault.
What is up with the play calling...Saban has Brown and does nothing to get the running game going.
This is forcing CPep to the air without the pocket protection he needs because he can't roll out like he used to.
I had to drop him for another QB I can count on. I have Brown as well, I am sticking with the guy who at some point may get 20-30 touches a game,
JOEY is not the missing link to the Phins problems
I blame Culpepper - no pocket awareness, no clock in his head. Does a lot of stupid things - witness the delay of game penalty after a timeout or a quarter change, I forget which.
Maybe Harrington wouldn't be any better, but QBs make lines as much as lines make them. Good QBs get rid of the ball. Culpepper has no clue, holds the ball way too long, because he's not comfortable in any sort of timing offense. He wants to see receivers breaking open, but you can't wait that long in this league, son.
I'd be flabbergasted if Culpepper became a solid fantasy option the rest of the year, short of guys like Chambers and Brown taking short passes and running 70 yards with them. Not getting it done against Tennessee and Houston is as telling as it gets.
Maybe Harrington wouldn't be any better, but QBs make lines as much as lines make them. Good QBs get rid of the ball. Culpepper has no clue, holds the ball way too long, because he's not comfortable in any sort of timing offense. He wants to see receivers breaking open, but you can't wait that long in this league, son.
I'd be flabbergasted if Culpepper became a solid fantasy option the rest of the year, short of guys like Chambers and Brown taking short passes and running 70 yards with them. Not getting it done against Tennessee and Houston is as telling as it gets.
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Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Re: Joey Harrington
I watched him for years as a Lions fan. He has happy feet and gets rid of the ball too quickly. He can make good throws when comfortable in the pocket. Overall, a mediocre QB who can look really good in the right situation and really bad in the wrong one. Detroit was the wrong one, and from the sounds of it, Miami is the wrong one too.
I watched him for years as a Lions fan. He has happy feet and gets rid of the ball too quickly. He can make good throws when comfortable in the pocket. Overall, a mediocre QB who can look really good in the right situation and really bad in the wrong one. Detroit was the wrong one, and from the sounds of it, Miami is the wrong one too.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
If the Dolphins don't address the protection problems and Culpepper holds the ball too long, he is going to get injured this week against NE. Instead of debating Culpepper losing his job we will be debating: "Joey Harrington - from here on out"
omally
Footballguy
Culpepper looked bad last year, before he got that MAJOR injury at Carolina. Brad Johnson is the one who revived the Vikings last year. I think Randy Moss made Culpepper look more talented than what he really is.
nygiants56
Footballguy
The Curse of Mike Mularkey..he's trying to be to cute with his play calling..giving Ronnie Brown just 15 carries two weeks ago vs. Tenn., and scant 12 carries vs. Houston defies logic..BOTH teams are at or near the bottom in rushing defense, yet, you only muster 27 carries between BOTH games?! Brown should have had 27 carries in EACH game...I don't understand it!..Mularkey was decent in Pittsburgh, but tried to get fancy last year in Buffalo with his play caling, hurting McGahee's numbers..he's doing the same in Miami, it appears, choking a decent offense to death..mike11162 said:
