Culpepper and the Jags (1 Viewer)

[Megla]

NFL Network is reporting that the Jags leadership and backup QB Garrard where in meetings yesterday discussing the teams plans to sign QB D Culpepper and how this would effect Garrard's status. According to reports they will aggressivly persue Culpepper, but Garrard will remain the #2 QB.

No links at this time, saw the report at @ 10pm last night on total access.

 

[Pitch12]

I think that Garrard needs a change. Yes, he's been productive during his time with the Jags, but he hasn't taken that leap forward.

I don't think that they should sign Culpepper though. Leftwich is already injury prone, so it isn't wise to have two injury-prone quarterbacks as your No. 1 and No. 2

 

[ShadowMaster]

NFL Network is reporting that the Jags leadership and backup QB Garrard where in meetings yesterday discussing the teams plans to sign QB D Culpepper and how this would effect Garrard's status. According to reports they will aggressivly persue Culpepper, but Garrard will remain the #2 QB.No links at this time, saw the report at @ 10pm last night on total access.

I seriously doubt that they would give Garrard the #2 job without competeing for it in camp. No reason to go after CPep just to have him inactive (except for emergency) each week.I also doubt they discuss their team roster moves with their backup players before they make them.No link, because I bet none of this stuff even happened. Some reporter spewing BS.

 

[fsufan]

If Culpepper is traded/signs with J-Ville and if he is healthy, do you think he will win the job from Leftwich?

 

[Megla]

Just an update

Local reports are that the meeting did take place and that Garrad was told the move had nothing to do with his abilities but if the Jags do move forward and sign Culpepper then Garrad would most likely be the odd man out.

Also DE B McCray agrees to a one year deal with the Jags.

http://www.jaguars.com/News/Article.aspx?id=6088

 

[videoguy505]

Crawl on ESPN2 says Culpepper "injured his hand" in a car accident Wedneday night. Don't see which hand nor a link with more details yet.

 

[sholditch]

trading for Cpep make no sense for them. I'd rather have Garrard under center. For the past two years he's looked like twice the QB Cpep has.

 

[Padraig]

Crawl on ESPN2 says Culpepper "injured his hand" in a car accident Wedneday night. Don't see which hand nor a link with more details yet.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-614...la-sports-front

 

[videoguy505]

Crawl on ESPN2 says Culpepper "injured his hand" in a car accident Wedneday night. Don't see which hand nor a link with more details yet.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-614...la-sports-front

Good catch.

Paramedics took one of the injured to Coral Springs Medical Center, but Brown could not immediately say whether the patient was the quarterback or the other driver. Brown also could not say which hand Culpepper injured.

Details of the crash were to become available later Thursday, he said.

 

[Dhizz]

I'm surprised how little buzz Culpepper is getting. In the FBG rankings he's below Boller and David Carr? Eh?

This guy was the #1 FF QB 4 out of 5 years. The other year he was 15th due to injury.

I'm not sure how you can fluke 5 years of amazing production. 3 years ago he threw for 4,700 39 tds 11 ints. A top 10 QB season of all time. He's the same age as Tom Brady. He had a brutal knee injury on a team going down the tubes.

He gets a shot at MIA, but came back too early.

If he's mostly healthy, I don't see how this guy isn't at least better then Boller and David Carr. Lets say he goes to JAX, is now the backup to Lefty (no way they bring him in to be the 3rd qb). Lefty is done after this year, word is he wants out of JAX. Cpepp starting? Should be a little buzz. This guy has 5 years left in the league. Green is what 37?

So he was a system QB? Randy Moss didn't do much for the Raider QBs. You don't throw 39/11 if you can't read a defense. If you don't have a good touch on the ball. If you don't have a rocket arm. It was a bad knee injury, I've seen worse.

I have a feeling if Cpepp ever starts again, he'll get the Randy Moss reaction. Rocket up to the top 15, and the hype machine will be in full force. Just seems to me there should be a little buzz right now, as I imagine he's on some WWs or easily had on the cheap.

I just don't buy the fact that the knee injury ended his career. It's way too early to say that, he was rushed back on a horrible team before he was ready.

 

[softball]

I'm surprised how little buzz Culpepper is getting. In the FBG rankings he's below Boller and David Carr? Eh? This guy was the #1 FF QB 4 out of 5 years. The other year he was 15th due to injury.I'm not sure how you can fluke 5 years of amazing production. 3 years ago he threw for 4,700 39 tds 11 ints. A top 10 QB season of all time. He's the same age as Tom Brady. He had a brutal knee injury on a team going down the tubes.He gets a shot at MIA, but came back too early.If he's mostly healthy, I don't see how this guy isn't at least better then Boller and David Carr. Lets say he goes to JAX, is now the backup to Lefty (no way they bring him in to be the 3rd qb). Lefty is done after this year, word is he wants out of JAX. Cpepp starting? Should be a little buzz. This guy has 5 years left in the league. Green is what 37? So he was a system QB? Randy Moss didn't do much for the Raider QBs. You don't throw 39/11 if you can't read a defense. If you don't have a good touch on the ball. If you don't have a rocket arm. It was a bad knee injury, I've seen worse. I have a feeling if Cpepp ever starts again, he'll get the Randy Moss reaction. Rocket up to the top 15, and the hype machine will be in full force. Just seems to me there should be a little buzz right now, as I imagine he's on some WWs or easily had on the cheap.I just don't buy the fact that the knee injury ended his career. It's way too early to say that, he was rushed back on a horrible team before he was ready.

CPepp is a high risk guy. If he were so healthy the Fins wouldn't be starting a 37 year old this season IMO.One coment you made is he was rushed back too quickly, part of his problem last year was that he rehabbed his knee at a strip mall health club (seriously). That wasn't the Dolphins fault. I don't have a link on that story any more, but that's what I read.As for rocketing up the rankings, I have to disagree. He hasn't been productive in 1.5 years, that's a really long time for a QB to be out of the loop.Just to be clear, I'm rooting for him, he was a monster when at his best. And we can use all the FF monsters we can get.

 

[Dhizz]

CPepp is a high risk guy. If he were so healthy the Fins wouldn't be starting a 37 year old this season IMO.One coment you made is he was rushed back too quickly, part of his problem last year was that he rehabbed his knee at a strip mall health club (seriously). That wasn't the Dolphins fault. I don't have a link on that story any more, but that's what I read.As for rocketing up the rankings, I have to disagree. He hasn't been productive in 1.5 years, that's a really long time for a QB to be out of the loop.Just to be clear, I'm rooting for him, he was a monster when at his best. And we can use all the FF monsters we can get.

Moss hasn't been productive in 2+ years, yet some experts rank him in the top 10 redraft (5th,6th,7th?).Look at Rich Gannon. Didn't do squat until he was 34.Trent Green didn't go squat until he was 30+.Just seems a little early to write off Cpepp for good. The guy had 1000x more production then Green/Gannon from 24-30. I just think there should be more buzz. I realize FF is what have you done lately type of mentality, but come on.

 

[az_prof]

CPepp is a high risk guy. If he were so healthy the Fins wouldn't be starting a 37 year old this season IMO.One coment you made is he was rushed back too quickly, part of his problem last year was that he rehabbed his knee at a strip mall health club (seriously). That wasn't the Dolphins fault. I don't have a link on that story any more, but that's what I read.As for rocketing up the rankings, I have to disagree. He hasn't been productive in 1.5 years, that's a really long time for a QB to be out of the loop.Just to be clear, I'm rooting for him, he was a monster when at his best. And we can use all the FF monsters we can get.

Moss hasn't been productive in 2+ years, yet some experts rank him in the top 10 redraft (5th,6th,7th?).Look at Rich Gannon. Didn't do squat until he was 34.Trent Green didn't go squat until he was 30+.Just seems a little early to write off Cpepp for good. The guy had 1000x more production then Green/Gannon from 24-30. I just think there should be more buzz. I realize FF is what have you done lately type of mentality, but come on.

The reason most of us are not drinking the Cpep kool aid is because:1) he had a massive injury. It wasn't just a torn ligament--it was all three. So there are legitimate questions about whether he can ever come back and be the same player. 2) A big part of his game when he was good was predicatedupon his ability to run. He didn't run as much as Vick, but he was best when he did run some, which forced the linebackers and Dbacks to check down and allowed WRs to get open in the seams. If his knee is crap and he can't run, will he be the same QB?3) Even before his injury, his last season at MN was abysmal. So, he hasn't shown much in three years. Given that he had a great offense at that time, it is legitimate to wonder how much of his production was the Sytem. Remember, an ancient Randal Cunningham and an ancient and never any good QB Jeff George both had career years in that offense the years preceding Daunte. 4) If Miami is cutting him or trading him and starting an ancient Trent Green, how could can he be in their estimation?

 

[Dhizz]

CPepp is a high risk guy. If he were so healthy the Fins wouldn't be starting a 37 year old this season IMO.One coment you made is he was rushed back too quickly, part of his problem last year was that he rehabbed his knee at a strip mall health club (seriously). That wasn't the Dolphins fault. I don't have a link on that story any more, but that's what I read.As for rocketing up the rankings, I have to disagree. He hasn't been productive in 1.5 years, that's a really long time for a QB to be out of the loop.Just to be clear, I'm rooting for him, he was a monster when at his best. And we can use all the FF monsters we can get.

Moss hasn't been productive in 2+ years, yet some experts rank him in the top 10 redraft (5th,6th,7th?).Look at Rich Gannon. Didn't do squat until he was 34.Trent Green didn't go squat until he was 30+.Just seems a little early to write off Cpepp for good. The guy had 1000x more production then Green/Gannon from 24-30. I just think there should be more buzz. I realize FF is what have you done lately type of mentality, but come on.

The reason most of us are not drinking the Cpep kool aid is because:1) he had a massive injury. It wasn't just a torn ligament--it was all three. So there are legitimate questions about whether he can ever come back and be the same player. 2) A big part of his game when he was good was predicatedupon his ability to run. He didn't run as much as Vick, but he was best when he did run some, which forced the linebackers and Dbacks to check down and allowed WRs to get open in the seams. If his knee is crap and he can't run, will he be the same QB?3) Even before his injury, his last season at MN was abysmal. So, he hasn't shown much in three years. Given that he had a great offense at that time, it is legitimate to wonder how much of his production was the Sytem. Remember, an ancient Randal Cunningham and an ancient and never any good QB Jeff George both had career years in that offense the years preceding Daunte. 4) If Miami is cutting him or trading him and starting an ancient Trent Green, how could can he be in their estimation?

I'm mostly talking dynasty, how much would he cost? A roster spot? I can't see any owner demanding a steep price for him.MN was going down the tubes, I'm not sure it was all his fault. Bennett/Moore/Burelson, iffy weapons.MIA wants to save money, and start over. I'm not sure its so much Cpepp is looking like crap, I think its a fresh start and they want to cut bait.

 

[lions327]

CPepp is a high risk guy. If he were so healthy the Fins wouldn't be starting a 37 year old this season IMO.One coment you made is he was rushed back too quickly, part of his problem last year was that he rehabbed his knee at a strip mall health club (seriously). That wasn't the Dolphins fault. I don't have a link on that story any more, but that's what I read.As for rocketing up the rankings, I have to disagree. He hasn't been productive in 1.5 years, that's a really long time for a QB to be out of the loop.Just to be clear, I'm rooting for him, he was a monster when at his best. And we can use all the FF monsters we can get.

Moss hasn't been productive in 2+ years, yet some experts rank him in the top 10 redraft (5th,6th,7th?).Look at Rich Gannon. Didn't do squat until he was 34.Trent Green didn't go squat until he was 30+.Just seems a little early to write off Cpepp for good. The guy had 1000x more production then Green/Gannon from 24-30. I just think there should be more buzz. I realize FF is what have you done lately type of mentality, but come on.

The reason most of us are not drinking the Cpep kool aid is because:1) he had a massive injury. It wasn't just a torn ligament--it was all three. So there are legitimate questions about whether he can ever come back and be the same player. 2) A big part of his game when he was good was predicatedupon his ability to run. He didn't run as much as Vick, but he was best when he did run some, which forced the linebackers and Dbacks to check down and allowed WRs to get open in the seams. If his knee is crap and he can't run, will he be the same QB?3) Even before his injury, his last season at MN was abysmal. So, he hasn't shown much in three years. Given that he had a great offense at that time, it is legitimate to wonder how much of his production was the Sytem. Remember, an ancient Randal Cunningham and an ancient and never any good QB Jeff George both had career years in that offense the years preceding Daunte. 4) If Miami is cutting him or trading him and starting an ancient Trent Green, how could can he be in their estimation?