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Curt Schilling's Mission: Destroy Lives of Men for Obscene Tweets (1 Viewer)

Annnnnd that's pretty ####### ridiculous.
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Yes, using one's own masculine "empowerment" and humor to joke about raping women with baseball bats or other such objects is de rigueur in this ether and we should accept it when the offenders refuse to apologize. Every feminist on my Facebook page now loves Schilling and is in a lather about this.

Thanks, morans. You'll get this regulated soon enough.
I was talking about Schilling trying to get some of these guys on a sex offender list or whatever.

 
Annnnnd that's pretty ####### ridiculous.
:goodposting:
Yes, using one's own masculine "empowerment" and humor to joke about raping women with baseball bats or other such objects is de rigueur in this ether and we should accept it when the offenders refuse to apologize. Every feminist on my Facebook page now loves Schilling and is in a lather about this.

Thanks, morans. You'll get this regulated soon enough.
I was talking about Schilling trying to get some of these guys on a sex offender list or whatever.
Which seems overboard. But the problem is when you act this uncivil, people start to want to arrest and regulate. I don't think experienced users of these formats realize how crazy these things may seem to normal people who want to use the format without the baggage/dialectic that goes along with it.

 
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PatsWillWin said:
whiskey7 said:
Choose to put personal stuff on the internet and you take your chances. Caveat emptor, no?

Knowing the vast amount of idiots and scumbags out there, I am continually surprised at not only how much of themselves people put out there for public consumption but also how truly chapped they get by the words of some clown they've never met. Trolls win when you let them know they bother you. They're trying to get a reaction. Period. Wanna beat the trolls? Ignore them. Don't feed them. Nothing could be simpler.
It's hard not to think that Schilling beat the trolls on this one. Several of them have been suspended or kicked off sports teams or been fired from their jobs.
So the only takeaway here is that if you want to troll, do it with a proxy and with an account that can't be tied to your personal information. Schilling may have just beaten the D-Level trolls but I think he's unwittingly put a target on his back for the people who know what they're doing.

Best bet is always to block and ignore.

 
PatsWillWin said:
whiskey7 said:
Choose to put personal stuff on the internet and you take your chances. Caveat emptor, no?

Knowing the vast amount of idiots and scumbags out there, I am continually surprised at not only how much of themselves people put out there for public consumption but also how truly chapped they get by the words of some clown they've never met. Trolls win when you let them know they bother you. They're trying to get a reaction. Period. Wanna beat the trolls? Ignore them. Don't feed them. Nothing could be simpler.
It's hard not to think that Schilling beat the trolls on this one. Several of them have been suspended or kicked off sports teams or been fired from their jobs.
So the only takeaway here is that if you want to troll, do it with a proxy and with an account that can't be tied to your personal information. Schilling may have just beaten the D-Level trolls but I think he's unwittingly put a target on his back for the people who know what they're doing.

Best bet is always to block and ignore.
That's really the first thing I thought, sadly. Like, it's great you did it to people who aren't taking the time to figure it out, but some people really, really want in.

 
PatsWillWin said:
whiskey7 said:
Choose to put personal stuff on the internet and you take your chances. Caveat emptor, no?

Knowing the vast amount of idiots and scumbags out there, I am continually surprised at not only how much of themselves people put out there for public consumption but also how truly chapped they get by the words of some clown they've never met. Trolls win when you let them know they bother you. They're trying to get a reaction. Period. Wanna beat the trolls? Ignore them. Don't feed them. Nothing could be simpler.
It's hard not to think that Schilling beat the trolls on this one. Several of them have been suspended or kicked off sports teams or been fired from their jobs.
So the only takeaway here is that if you want to troll, do it with a proxy and with an account that can't be tied to your personal information. Schilling may have just beaten the D-Level trolls but I think he's unwittingly put a target on his back for the people who know what they're doing.

Best bet is always to block and ignore.
That's really the first thing I thought, sadly. Like, it's great you did it to people who aren't taking the time to figure it out, but some people really, really want in.
If I'm Schilling, I first realize what a mistake I made by putting up a public congratulations for my daughter. I don't begrudge him for doing it. But if given a chance to go back in time, I'd bet he'd pass on doing it again.

That being said: If I'm Schlling, and this stuff is already out there, I don't see there is ANY way to let this go. You just can't let people say those horrible and threatening things without taking some action. I don't think I could just block and ignore. I may be less "in your face" about it than Schilling was, but I don't know if I could hold back from outing the nastiest of the bunch.

 
Yeah, I'm actually a big Schilling fan, but I think the sex offender thing is overboard. I'm fine with everything up the suspensions/firings. Legal action seems too much.

 
There's some interesting generational differences at play with this issue. I think guys who are the same age as Curt and myself (late 40's) were socialized before the advent of the Internet and social media. Millenials who grew up their whole lives with the Internet have developed a whole different set of coping mechanisms. While part of me admires the patience and tolerance of the younger generation in ignoring the trolls, I simply can't relate to it at times. For me, based on my own life experiences, I always seem compelled to want to fight the trolls and call out the bad behavior when I see it. In the simpler world that I grew up in, it was very rare to be exposed to nasty comments from people, and when you were - it almost always demanded to be dealt with then and there in some fashion.

I'm not sure what approach is better. I think Curt and I would probably like to think that our approach is more noble, but in the end I'm not sure if it really accomplishes more than the ignore strategy. I have to concede that if there's a book to be written about how to survive in the age of the Internet and social media, it probably won't be written by my generation. But it sure was nice to see the bully get smacked in the face yesterday.

 
Well the guy who lost his job being a part time ticket sales/tearer upper really learned his lesson. LOL He lost a part time job.
What are future potential employers going to find when they google his name?
Really? Well Bill I was going to hire you for our firm, but we found out you trolled Schilling so no job for you!
You don't have a real job, do you?

Everyone I know in the professional world who has hiring authority uses google/facebook/etc to look up potential candidates prior to scheduling an interview.
What is a real job? I run a surgery center with about 200 employees the past 12 years. Not once have I searched twitter or facebook to make a decision about hiring someone. We use a company that does background checks amd another company to do drug screens. Not once has either company or anyone else for that matter ever told me not to hire or fire someone for a twitter or facebook post. But, maybe I dont work in the real world?
Just because your background company hasn't nixed someone's application because of what they found on the internet doesn't mean they're not checking. If you honestly think they wouldn't tell you about these posts if one of these guys applied for one of your positions, then you really need to find a new company to work with.

Sounds like you have a nice job, congratulations. I'm shocked about how naive you are about this. :shrug:

 
Yeah, Googling/Facebooking applications is SOP these days most places. I'd be applying for jobs as Art Vandaley if I were one of these clowns.

 
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As a public figure who a lot of people dislike Schilling is a complete moron for tweeting any pictures of his teen daughter, but the guys who went way too far deserve what they get.

 
These guys went way too far no one disagrees. But, where does it end? Does someone find a post by a racist person, track them down IRL, and report the posts to Coca Cola and say, "look either you fire this guy for being a racist pig, or I will go to news agencies and tell them Coca Cola has racist people working for them!"

I would hate it if we started tracking down everyone on the internet IRL and holding them accountable for silly/stupid/racist/profane comments. I think that most people IRL would not have said those mean things about Schillings daughter.

my 2 cents

 
These guys went way too far no one disagrees. But, where does it end? Does someone find a post by a racist person, track them down IRL, and report the posts to Coca Cola and say, "look either you fire this guy for being a racist pig, or I will go to news agencies and tell them Coca Cola has racist people working for them!"

I would hate it if we started tracking down everyone on the internet IRL and holding them accountable for silly/stupid/racist/profane comments. I think that most people IRL would not have said those mean things about Schillings daughter.

my 2 cents
No one forced anyone to fire anyone. The organizations were made aware of the incident and made their own decisions, just as your company would if they found out you were arrested for murder.

 
These guys went way too far no one disagrees. But, where does it end? Does someone find a post by a racist person, track them down IRL, and report the posts to Coca Cola and say, "look either you fire this guy for being a racist pig, or I will go to news agencies and tell them Coca Cola has racist people working for them!"

I would hate it if we started tracking down everyone on the internet IRL and holding them accountable for silly/stupid/racist/profane comments. I think that most people IRL would not have said those mean things about Schillings daughter.

my 2 cents
How is this any different than being an open racist? Why should one expect anonymity online vs. the real world? The Internet is not anynomous ... Did we not learn anything from Napster?

 
These guys went way too far no one disagrees. But, where does it end? Does someone find a post by a racist person, track them down IRL, and report the posts to Coca Cola and say, "look either you fire this guy for being a racist pig, or I will go to news agencies and tell them Coca Cola has racist people working for them!"

I would hate it if we started tracking down everyone on the internet IRL and holding them accountable for silly/stupid/racist/profane comments. I think that most people IRL would not have said those mean things about Schillings daughter.

my 2 cents
Already being done. People have been forced out of jobs for things like political and religious beliefs.

 
These guys went way too far no one disagrees. But, where does it end? Does someone find a post by a racist person, track them down IRL, and report the posts to Coca Cola and say, "look either you fire this guy for being a racist pig, or I will go to news agencies and tell them Coca Cola has racist people working for them!"

I would hate it if we started tracking down everyone on the internet IRL and holding them accountable for silly/stupid/racist/profane comments. I think that most people IRL would not have said those mean things about Schillings daughter.

my 2 cents
Already being done. People have been forced out of jobs for things like political and religious beliefs.
And, gay / lesbians have been fired .... for example, a catholic school teacher in Cincy mentioned her partner in her mother's obit ... Fired. A straight woman used ART to conceive and was fired as a catholic school teacher.

 
These guys went way too far no one disagrees. But, where does it end? Does someone find a post by a racist person, track them down IRL, and report the posts to Coca Cola and say, "look either you fire this guy for being a racist pig, or I will go to news agencies and tell them Coca Cola has racist people working for them!"

I would hate it if we started tracking down everyone on the internet IRL and holding them accountable for silly/stupid/racist/profane comments. I think that most people IRL would not have said those mean things about Schillings daughter.

my 2 cents
Already being done. People have been forced out of jobs for things like political and religious beliefs.
And, gay / lesbians have been fired .... for example, a catholic school teacher in Cincy mentioned her partner in her mother's obit ... Fired. A straight woman used ART to conceive and was fired as a catholic school teacher.
Well there you go.

 
Is anyone's mission to get back at Curt's waste of taxpayer money in his boondoggle of a tech business?

 

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