Cut or Hold for one more year? (1 Viewer)

[amnesiac]

every year after our rookie drafts, where we cram our rosters full of raw potential, we are faced with the task of trimming those same rosters back down to size.

some of the cuts are easy, (why is that guy still on my team?) but others are more difficult.

among the most difficult players to judge are those veterans who are close to the end of the line. at first glance, they look tired and worn out, but on closer inspection, they could still hold some value, at least maybe for one more year.

a few names to get started:

Duce Staley: here's a guy who hasn't done much since going to the Steelers, but with Bettis gone, still has potential to come in and produce, even if only as a short yardage back.

Marshal Faulk: been on the decline for years, but could still be productive in stretches if Jackson were to go down.

feel free to add your own, or comment on these.

 

[jurb26]

Not trying to make this a AC thread, but I would say:

Staley - You're crazy if you cut him!

Faulk - Should have been cut at the end of last year!

 

[gang-wars]

Rogers, Charles DET WR

Battle, Arnaz SFO WR

Pennington, Chad NYJ QB

Ramsey, Patrick NYJ QB

Bradley, Mark CHI WR

Moore, Mewelde MIN RB

Williams, Ricky FA RB

Losman, J.P. BUF QB

Wilson, Cedrick PIT WR

Henry, Chris CIN WR

McDonald, Shaun STL WR

Not sure any of them are worth a roster spot

 

[amnesiac]

i was thinking deep rosters for this discussion, so i would make your list look more like this:

Williams, Ricky FA RB Wilson, Cedrick PIT WRHenry, Chris CIN WR McDonald, Shaun STL WR

the rest i think are worth at least one more year.but i was really more interested in the old vets, wether or not they have "one more year" in them.

 

[-OZ-]

Amani Toomer

Moose (assume he does, but is it a good time to trade?)

Stephen Davis (is he retired yet?)

Desmond Clark

 

[creeps1313]

THenry

CRogers

MJenkins

JSmith...cant believe he retired

 

[amnesiac]

JSmith...cant believe he retired

i think we can safely add him to the Cut list.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Derrick Ward

Tiki's not getting any younger, but just when will this guy get an opportunity. I traded him at the end of last season (to the Tiki owner), but will watch him close this preseason.

 

[tarheel1unc]

S McNair

F Taylor

J Smith

These are the only "dinosaurs" left on my team. I traded D Staley earlier in the year in a package deal. I'm hoping to get a little more fill in work out of McNair and Taylor this year. I sure thought I would get one more out of J Smith.

 

[radballs]

Too much of this discussion revolves around factors like roster size, starting requirements, and scoring rules. From a Zealots perspective, most of the players mentioned so far are worth having on a roster.

 

[Londo]

I will have a difficult decision with Derrick Blaylock this time around. I hope he plays enough in preseason to show me something.

 

[Neo]

MJenkins

 

[amnesiac]

Too much of this discussion revolves around factors like roster size, starting requirements, and scoring rules. From a Zealots perspective, most of the players mentioned so far are worth having on a roster.

you're probably right. just thought it would be interesting to discuss some of the guys near the end to see what other people thought about them.

maybe i can go back later and put a better list together of older guys with declining production who may or may not have another year left in them.

 

[Sinrman]

Are we talking rosters of like 20 or fewer players? Some of the players mentioned, like Michael Jenkins, I'm scratching my head about. Why would you cut someone like that? Or Arnaz Battle? I'm sorry if they aren't blowing up for 15 TDs nowdays, but if we're talking depth on your team, and a decent sized roster, you can't cut players like that.

People like Stephen Davis, Marshall Faulk, etc. -- ones who are contemplating retirement, might be ones to discuss. Even ones in trouble with the law, like Chris Henry, should be ones to consider keeping for one more year, just to let things play out and THEN make a decision when the time comes.

 

[aposulli]

Amani Toomer

Moose (assume he does, but is it a good time to trade?)

Stephen Davis (is he retired yet?)

Desmond Clark

MOOSE? He's going to be a pleasent surprise in '06.Toomer has one more decent season in him. Not good, but decent.

Davis and Clark, no.

 

[aposulli]

THenry

If this guy's situation doesn't change soon, he doesn't deserve to be in any league with 15 or less teams. dynasty included.

 

[creeps1313]

MJenkins

I know....hes the next person Im dropping.

 

[creeps1313]

THenry

If this guy's situation doesn't change soon, he doesn't deserve to be in any league with 15 or less teams. dynasty included.

Normally Id agree....but with all the Brown trade talks, ive been holding on.

 

[fatness]

Amani Toomer

He was the Giants' leading receiver the last half of last year, I believe. If you cut him someone else will pick him right up.

 

[gman8343]

MJenkins

I know....hes the next person Im dropping.

Depends how deep your league is -- one of my dynasty leagues has 12 teams carrying about 6-7 WRs on each squad, so Jenkins is definately worth a roster spot -- EVERY starting WR is worth a spot. In a ten team league where less WRs are kept, he may be expendable, but the guy is going into his third year and had some nice moments last season.

 

[crnerblitz]

Much of this discussion is dependent on league requirements. Having said that, there is lots of value in discussing some specific players in order to try and build a consensus view. Perhaps the OP could set up a poll of say 5-10 candidates and we could hold individual discussons about the top 3 or 4 vote getters.

I nominate DerricK Blaylock, Chris Henry, and Justin Fargas.

Kevin

 

[CravenM]

Cut now - sleep well at night

Justin Fargas - for whatever reason, he doesn't play

Carolina RBs - whoever starts does well but do you carry 4?

David Carr - I just don't see it - new offensive scheme depends on excellent blocking

Joey Harrington - He's not good

Isaac Bruce - only as a RB3,

JJ Arrington - CFL, here he comes

Hold him close

Steve McNair - Ravens have a LOT going for them in the WR, TE and RB dept

Kurt Warner - See above

Drew Bledsoe - See above

Terry Glenn - I'm not convinced that the complement to T.O. who's been in the program and friends with DB doesn't get a lot of action

Fred Taylor - if Tiki can make a comeback, so can a guy with more talent, less mileage and younger

LavColes - he's got skills, he just needs a stable QB

 

[gman8343]

Cut now - sleep well at night

Justin Fargas - for whatever reason, he doesn't play

Carolina RBs - whoever starts does well but do you carry 4?

David Carr - I just don't see it - new offensive scheme depends on excellent blocking

Joey Harrington - He's not good

Isaac Bruce - only as a RB3,

JJ Arrington - CFL, here he comes

 

[Texasmouth]

Cut now - sleep well at night

David Carr - I just don't see it - new offensive scheme depends on excellent blocking

Isaac Bruce - only as a RB3

JJ Arrington - CFL, here he comes

I dont agree with any of these three.Carr will be very much improved next season, the blocking will come along with the new faces and new coach.

Bruce will still be a decent #2 guy this season, hopefully he remains healthy.

JJ Arrington will still be the future of that team, Edge has a lot of miles and a rebuilt knee, he wont be there forever.

 

[jeter23]

Cut now - sleep well at night

Justin Fargas - for whatever reason, he doesn't play

Carolina RBs - whoever starts does well but do you carry 4?

David Carr - I just don't see it - new offensive scheme depends on excellent blocking

Joey Harrington - He's not good

Isaac Bruce - only as a RB3,

JJ Arrington - CFL, here he comes

I keep all of these guys, with the possible exception of Fargas, but he makes it just because he's a RB.

 

[CD Dragon]

Just dropped Faulk today, actually grabbed Rod gardner in his stead. 24 player roster. some good pub from packer camp and i am set at RB but am hurtin for certain in the WR dept

RBs

jamal/mike

cedric benson

lendale

chris perry

mewelde

moats

WRs

burleson

bruce

glenn

trav taylor

c henry

santonio

d boston and gardner. taking a shot on these 2 . very good rcvrs there first 2-3 yrs. boston was a stud when healthy

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Amani Toomer

Moose (assume he does, but is it a good time to trade?)

Stephen Davis (is he retired yet?)

Desmond Clark

(KFFL) Jason Cole, writing for NBCSports.com, reports agent David Canter said this week that free agent RB Stephen Davis (Panthers) wants to play despite talking about possibly retiring. The catch is that Davis doesn't want to play for the minimum if he comes back.