It was Mortenson. Interesting comparison to Brett Favre.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
Phillip Rivers IIDan Patrick just had JAWS on and he was saying that Cutler has been flying up the draft chart so much that some teams would actually rather pick Cutler over both Leinart and Young.
Thanks...caught it after they introduced him.I had a 50/50 shot.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
Mortenson was insinuating that some teams have Cutler the best QB on their board. Although he didn't name any teams.Mike Mayock of the NFL Network said on the Senoir Bowl Practice show that he ranks Cutler ahead of Leihnart and Young. He states that all three are franchise-type qb's so that leads me to believe he thinks he is a top 5 pick at least.
I would like this pick for the Lions very much.Kiper had talked about this a few weeks ago and was the first I saw to include Cutler in the top 10 of a mock draft (#9 to Detroit).
He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
Oh, he'll move out of the dorm. And into a nice home in Brentwood or Franklin like most of the other Titans. He just might not have to change cities which is your point, I'm sure.....He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
With Fisher and the rest of the TEN coaching staff coaching Culter's team in the Senior Bowl, it seems very likely, assuming he continues to impress.Oh, he'll move out of the dorm. And into a nice home in Brentwood or Franklin like most of the other Titans. He just might not have to change cities which is your point, I'm sure.....He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
Die-Hard Vols Fan...would have hard time accepting Cutler as a Franchise qb...His decision making seems to be lacking...but he has the skill set...arm, sturdy,good height,....decision makingWith Fisher and the rest of the TEN coaching staff coaching Culter's team in the Senior Bowl, it seems very likely, assuming he continues to impress.Oh, he'll move out of the dorm. And into a nice home in Brentwood or Franklin like most of the other Titans. He just might not have to change cities which is your point, I'm sure.....He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
I agree that to some extent Cutler pressed too much and made a couple of bad decisions this year. I'd guess, though, that will improve a lot when whether the team wins or loses depends solely on whether he can almost single handedly beat the other team.Die-Hard Vols Fan...would have hard time accepting Cutler as a Franchise qb...His decision making seems to be lacking...but he has the skill set...arm, sturdy,good height,....decision makingWith Fisher and the rest of the TEN coaching staff coaching Culter's team in the Senior Bowl, it seems very likely, assuming he continues to impress.Oh, he'll move out of the dorm. And into a nice home in Brentwood or Franklin like most of the other Titans. He just might not have to change cities which is your point, I'm sure.....He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
Any examples besides Rivers?I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
Considering hes only had one day of mediocre senior bowl practice and that people were talking about him moving into the top 10 of the draft before this week, Ill say no.I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
I came back to UT to watch the UT/Vandy game this year.You cant really question his decision making right? Hes about the only player on the Vandy roster who could have started for UT, and yet he pretty much single-handedly beat the Vols.Die-Hard Vols Fan...would have hard time accepting Cutler as a Franchise qb...His decision making seems to be lacking...but he has the skill set...arm, sturdy,good height,....decision makingWith Fisher and the rest of the TEN coaching staff coaching Culter's team in the Senior Bowl, it seems very likely, assuming he continues to impress.Oh, he'll move out of the dorm. And into a nice home in Brentwood or Franklin like most of the other Titans. He just might not have to change cities which is your point, I'm sure.....He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
No, Cutler has been touted a lot during the season. You must mean "a guy I haven't heard about until now". In which case, I'll direct you towards Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich, and a couple other QBs who didn't attend big time programs, so didn't get the media attention they deserved.I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
When did Chris Simms become an expert?Yes. Right after the Rose Bowl, Chris Simms FWIW was on saying he'd take Cutler over Leinart.
He's a very good QB that didn't the exposure playing for what's traditionally been a weak team.
J
Diesel I agree. I live in K-town and I don't know what people are talking about. Cutler single-handedly willed Vandy to wins this season. If anyone hasn't seen this guy they'll know about him soon enough. SOD, IMO, before all this hype, but now he's getting recognized for the QB he is. He'll be the QB that people are talking about for years to come from this draft class not Young and Leinhart or whoever else.I came back to UT to watch the UT/Vandy game this year.You cant really question his decision making right? Hes about the only player on the Vandy roster who could have started for UT, and yet he pretty much single-handedly beat the Vols.Die-Hard Vols Fan...would have hard time accepting Cutler as a Franchise qb...His decision making seems to be lacking...but he has the skill set...arm, sturdy,good height,....decision makingWith Fisher and the rest of the TEN coaching staff coaching Culter's team in the Senior Bowl, it seems very likely, assuming he continues to impress.Oh, he'll move out of the dorm. And into a nice home in Brentwood or Franklin like most of the other Titans. He just might not have to change cities which is your point, I'm sure.....He'll be in a great one. He won't even have to move.Damn, I wanted Cutler to end up in a good situation...
Oh well...
Joey HarringtonAny examples besides Rivers?I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
Harrington had hype before his last season even started.Joey HarringtonAny examples besides Rivers?I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
Probably SEA/PITT/CAR. Teams that are not anywhere near the top of the draft and don't need QB's. Cutler will not be drafted before Leinart unless Matt's arm falls off at the combine. This just smells of an agent hyping his guy early to get some momentum for the draft.Mortenson was insinuating that some teams have Cutler the best QB on their board. Although he didn't name any teams.Mike Mayock of the NFL Network said on the Senoir Bowl Practice show that he ranks Cutler ahead of Leihnart and Young. He states that all three are franchise-type qb's so that leads me to believe he thinks he is a top 5 pick at least.
Harrington had a whole national media campaign for the Heisman directed around him...The Oregon Duck you are looking for is Akili Smith.Joey HarringtonAny examples besides Rivers?I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
For the past couple of years I've heard this comparision to Favre and I got to tell you I'm sick of it. First was Grossman, than Ramsey, then Losman. I'm sick of it. there is only one BRETT FAVRE. Please stop the comparisions. This kid might be good but to say he's LIKE FAVRE.... I think not. I'll still stick with Leinart being the best QB out of this class. I don't understand how last year all the experts were touting him as a no doubt #1 pick overall. He goes back to school, has a great year and wins alot of games. He gets his team back to the championship game has a good game (great in the second half) and all of a sudden his stock drops. Can someone explain this to me.It was Mortenson. Interesting comparison to Brett Favre.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
Akili Smith had one great season and came out of nowhere. Cutler, like Rivers, has been good his entire college career but didn't get noticed since he didn't play for a big-time football program.Jay Cutler stats and bioHarrington had a whole national media campaign for the Heisman directed around him...The Oregon Duck you are looking for is Akili Smith.Joey HarringtonAny examples besides Rivers?I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
Because last year his competition was Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers. Now he has Vince Young, Omar Jacobs and Jay Cutler - all of which may be better than any of the QB's in the draft last year, including Leinart.For the past couple of years I've heard this comparision to Favre and I got to tell you I'm sick of it. First was Grossman, than Ramsey, then Losman. I'm sick of it. there is only one BRETT FAVRE. Please stop the comparisions. This kid might be good but to say he's LIKE FAVRE.... I think not. I'll still stick with Leinart being the best QB out of this class. I don't understand how last year all the experts were touting him as a no doubt #1 pick overall. He goes back to school, has a great year and wins alot of games. He gets his team back to the championship game has a good game (great in the second half) and all of a sudden his stock drops. Can someone explain this to me.It was Mortenson. Interesting comparison to Brett Favre.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
I guess my point was last year the experts were saying he was a franchise qb and a can't miss project. Now don't get me wrong I love Vince Young but I have ?'s about his pro career. I haven't really seen enough of Cutler to make a fair judgement and what I have seen out of Jacobs makes me want to like him. All I know is before the super performance by Vince he was MAYBE a first rounder per Kiper and Mortenson. Mortenson even the day after the Rosebowl (on the Dan Patrick show) still doesn't think he's a top ten pick. Leinart in my opinion has the tools and the experience of running a NFL caliber offense. Again, I love Vince but I don't think the shotgun hand off and fakes are going to work in the NFL.Because last year his competition was Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers. Now he has Vince Young, Omar Jacobs and Jay Cutler - all of which may be better than any of the QB's in the draft last year, including Leinart.For the past couple of years I've heard this comparision to Favre and I got to tell you I'm sick of it. First was Grossman, than Ramsey, then Losman. I'm sick of it. there is only one BRETT FAVRE. Please stop the comparisions. This kid might be good but to say he's LIKE FAVRE.... I think not. I'll still stick with Leinart being the best QB out of this class. I don't understand how last year all the experts were touting him as a no doubt #1 pick overall. He goes back to school, has a great year and wins alot of games. He gets his team back to the championship game has a good game (great in the second half) and all of a sudden his stock drops. Can someone explain this to me.It was Mortenson. Interesting comparison to Brett Favre.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
And he missed the three pete, by 10 inchesFor the past couple of years I've heard this comparision to Favre and I got to tell you I'm sick of it. First was Grossman, than Ramsey, then Losman. I'm sick of it. there is only one BRETT FAVRE. Please stop the comparisions. This kid might be good but to say he's LIKE FAVRE.... I think not. I'll still stick with Leinart being the best QB out of this class. I don't understand how last year all the experts were touting him as a no doubt #1 pick overall. He goes back to school, has a great year and wins alot of games. He gets his team back to the championship game has a good game (great in the second half) and all of a sudden his stock drops. Can someone explain this to me.It was Mortenson. Interesting comparison to Brett Favre.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
fixedAnd he missed the three Re-pete, by 10 inchesFor the past couple of years I've heard this comparision to Favre and I got to tell you I'm sick of it. First was Grossman, than Ramsey, then Losman. I'm sick of it. there is only one BRETT FAVRE. Please stop the comparisions. This kid might be good but to say he's LIKE FAVRE.... I think not. I'll still stick with Leinart being the best QB out of this class. I don't understand how last year all the experts were touting him as a no doubt #1 pick overall. He goes back to school, has a great year and wins alot of games. He gets his team back to the championship game has a good game (great in the second half) and all of a sudden his stock drops. Can someone explain this to me.It was Mortenson. Interesting comparison to Brett Favre.not to be a stick in the mud, but I think it was Mortenson, not Jaws.
Are you really telling me the history of Jay Cutler? Where did you see me comparing him to Akili Smith?Akili Smith had one great season and came out of nowhere. Cutler, like Rivers, has been good his entire college career but didn't get noticed since he didn't play for a big-time football program.Jay Cutler stats and bioHarrington had a whole national media campaign for the Heisman directed around him...The Oregon Duck you are looking for is Akili Smith.Joey HarringtonAny examples besides Rivers?I'm going to preface this post by saying I've never seen Cutler play...
Isn't this very possibly yet another case of a guy flying up the draft charts who is going to fail as he's flying up, not because of how he actually played during his college career, but from various all-star games and/or the Combine?
Will people never learn?
It's officially called "The Mike Mamula Rule."Rule #1 of the NFL Draft: BEWARE of guys flying up the draft charts.
You're absolutely right. I'd prefer a QB who played in a tough conference and demonstrated the ability to take a team on his shoulders and win against good competition. Oh, and I'd like him to be smart, somwhere around 6-3 to 6-4, 220+ pounds...Rule #1 of the NFL Draft: BEWARE of guys flying up the draft charts.
My friend who is there claims Cutler looks like the only QB capable of playing successfully in the NFL. I told him there's reports here and there that he's been inaccurate and not looking THAT good. It's just that the other QBs have been really bad. I directed him to comments at GBN and NFLDC (both sites thought Whitehurst looked as good or better today), and he laughed. "Whitehurst threw two beautiful interceptions and three more ugly balls that should have been intercepted. They don't know what they're talking about. Cutler is solid, has a huge arm, puts the ball on the money, makes great reads yada yada. The rest of the QBs look lost in comparison."NFL Draft Scout says Cutler has been the story through the first two days of practice...
"Seemed more comfortable today" [1/24]
"Placing the ball more accurately"
"Jaw-dropping zip"
"If he continues on this pace...will be vying for top 10 pick status AND may be higher than Leinart on some boards"
Hey Chaos,I think the Pro-Cutler outlook is the more accurate one. I don't know the guys at NFLDC that well, but I can say emphatically that GBN has unfortunately taken a turn for the worse since the untimely passing of Frank.My friend who is there claims Cutler looks like the only QB capable of playing successfully in the NFL. I told him there's reports here and there that he's been inaccurate and not looking THAT good. It's just that the other QBs have been really bad. I directed him to comments at GBN and NFLDC (both sites thought Whitehurst looked as good or better today), and he laughed. "Whitehurst threw two beautiful interceptions and three more ugly balls that should have been intercepted. They don't know what they're talking about. Cutler is solid, has a huge arm, puts the ball on the money, makes great reads yada yada. The rest of the QBs look lost in comparison."NFL Draft Scout says Cutler has been the story through the first two days of practice...
"Seemed more comfortable today" [1/24]
"Placing the ball more accurately"
"Jaw-dropping zip"
"If he continues on this pace...will be vying for top 10 pick status AND may be higher than Leinart on some boards"
http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cf...s&news_id=47393Cutler takes Senior Bowl attention in stride
By Jim Scavino, Sports Correspondent
January 25, 2006
MOBILE, Ala. — As the only SEC player on the Senior Bowl’s North squad, Jay Cutler admits he doesn’t know much about the people around him.
That’s funny, because a lot of people sure know about him.
Arguably the most popular player on the North squad in terms of attention from media and NFL teams, the former Vanderbilt quarterback’s rising stock has him poised to become one of the breakout players at this year’s Senior Bowl.
“It’s fun,” said Cutler about the interest. “It’s definitely not a bad thing.”
It’s certainly a long way from the attention Cutler received coming out of high school, when only a handful of big-time programs showed interest. But after nearly 10,000 total yards and 59 touchdown passes in four years, it seems everybody wants a moment of Cutler’s time.
Following Tuesday’s practice, Cutler was surrounded by national media, but not until he was done chatting with representatives from the Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers.
On Monday, he had a lengthy talk with Miami Dolphins Coach Nick Saban, and on Tuesday he met for a half hour with Titans Offensive Coordinator Norm Chow, one of Cutler’s coaches on the North squad this week.
“He’s a bright young man with a strong, live arm,” Chow said. “He has a lot of zip on the ball and he has a good quick release.”
Chow’s assessment seems to be the general consensus on Cutler’s ability. Draft guru Mel Kiper has Cutler rated the third best quarterback behind only USC’s Matt Leinart and Texas’ Vince Young and has Cutler going ninth in the first round to the Detroit Lions. Almost everyone agrees he’ll be picked in the top 15.
Floyd Reese, Titans general manager, said Cutler isn’t quite in the company of Young and Leinart.
“I’m not ready to put him up there just yet,” Reese said. “When you’re talking about players like Young and Leinart, you’re talking about guys who have been on teams who have won all three of the last three national championships, as opposed to a guy who played at a program that has not attained a high level of success.”
“I can’t really worry about all [the projections],” Cutler said. “I just got to be consistent down here. … Everything else will take care of itself.”
On Tuesday, Cutler split reps with Clemson’s Charlie Whitehurst and Penn State’s Michael Robinson. Cutler showed off his arm strength with several completions on out routes and comeback routes. He also had one of the nicest throws of the 11-on-11 scrimmage, hitting USC tight end Dominique Byrd on a seam route 20 yards down the field in heavy traffic.
“I just want to show my talent playing against the best, working with the best coaching staff, being watched by everyone in the NFL,” Cutler said.
After the Senior Bowl, Cutler will head to next month’s NFL combine in Indianapolis.
After that, if he continues to impress, the next step will be a short wait for the phone to ring on draft day.
“You always dream of [the NFL],” he said. “It’s a long hard road, especially at Vandy where we had a lot of ups and downs. I just have to stay positive and expect the best.”
That's what I thought about Brady when I was a student at Michigan.Die-Hard Vols Fan...would have hard time accepting Cutler as a Franchise qb...His decision making seems to be lacking...but he has the skill set...arm, sturdy,good height,....decision making