Dad hits teacher w/bat after inappropriate texts w/daughter (1 Viewer)

[Wingnut]

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/dad-hits-perry-hall-teacher-with-baseball-bat-after-inappropriate-texts-surface-with-teen-daughter

PERRY HALL, Md. - The father of a Perry Hill, Md., student struck a teacher with a baseball bat after police were made aware of a series of texts between the teacher, a 42-year-old man, and a 15-year-old student, Baltimore County police said.

Police said an officer of the White Marsh Precinct read over dozens of texts that described an emotional relationship that seemed inappropriate for a teacher and student, according to a release from the Baltimore County Police Department. The girl's mother alerted police to the texts at about 3 a.m. at the precinct.

Police determined however that no crime had been committed. The case was referred to the Crimes Against Children Unit for further investigation, police said.

"There's nothing we've seen in the contents that's criminal," Baltimore County police spokeswoman Elise Armacost said of the text messages.

Thursday morning, the teacher went to the girls home in the 4600 block of Vicky Road to speak with the girls father. The teacher did so without permission, police said.

"The girl's father told the teacher to leave, but the teacher refused, according to a police news release. The girl's father then struck the teacher with a baseball bat.

The officer found that the teacher sustained minor injuries and advised him of the process for swearing out a complaint of second-degree assault (a misdemeanor), the release continued. The teacher said he did not wish to pursue charges.

So far, no charges have been filed. Police are not releasing the names of the girl, her parents or the teacher.

The father could file trespassing charges against the teacher, who has been barred from returning to the home. The teacher could file assault charges against the father, police said.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Gonna need to see the texts before I can pass judgment.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Seriously, why is this thread worthy? The teacher should get beat hard. And if he shows up again he should get beat twice as hard.

 

[jamny]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

 

[Wingnut]

The teacher either has some cajones, or is really dumb to show up to talk to the dad...then didn't leave when asked to.

Yup, dumb teacher. That's the result you're gonna get!

 

[Ilov80s]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Let's wait to find out the facts here, fellas.

How hot was the girl?

 

[rockaction]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

That's sort of what I was thinking. He was either invited and surprised the father, or was wildly inappropriate. I guess if we're charitable, we can chalk it up to concern, but that would seem dubious at best.

 

[Ilov80s]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

That's sort of what I was thinking. He was either invited and surprised the father, or was wildly inappropriate. I guess if we're charitable, we can chalk it up to concern, but that would seem dubious at best.

No matter how concerned I was about a student, I wouldn't go to their house, especially not alone.

 

[rockaction]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

That's sort of what I was thinking. He was either invited and surprised the father, or was wildly inappropriate. I guess if we're charitable, we can chalk it up to concern, but that would seem dubious at best.

No matter how concerned I was about a student, I wouldn't go to their house, especially not alone.

Yeah, I'm just trying to see his end of it. Bad, bad move.

 

[McGarnicle]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

 

[Kal El]

The content of the texts is important, but the fact he showed up at the girl's hpuse tells me that something inappropriate was going on here. The dad was right to start batting practice, IMO.

 

[fatness]

Did the texts say something bad about Dad?

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Teachers should not text with students, period. A 42 year old male teacher that does so with a 15 year old girl and the texts have nothing to do with school work deserves to be suspended at the least but a baseball bat beat down probably is even better.

 

[bigmarc27]

Did the texts say something bad about Dad?

This is the only way I could possibly imagine siding with the teacher... If the texts somehow related to abuse by the father and the teacher was the confidant. Even then though, he should have escalated things and not gone on his own.

Bad decisions.

 

[Osaurus]

There is more to this story as there always is, but totally agree with bad decisions made.

 

[Tom Servo]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1hVOz_NwXI

This song needs played when reading threads like this.

 

[Pipes]

Teachers should not text with students, period. A 42 year old male teacher that does so with a 15 year old girl and the texts have nothing to do with school work deserves to be suspended at the least but a baseball bat beat down probably is even better.

This

 

[Long Ball Larry]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

I tend to agree. Even if they were about homework, it seems like an improper relationship.

 

[johnnycakes]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

Asking dad if he can take the daughter to the prom?

 

[Jeff Vader]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

What if that "emotional relationship" was that of a surrogate father because the girl confessed to her teacher that her dad was a psychotic ##### who sometimes hit her. What if the teacher showed up to the house because he honestly wanted to try to talk to the dad to calm him down before he hit the girl again. What if the teacher didn't go to the police because the girl begged him not to, so he thought he'd try reasoning with the father first?

There's lot of things not said in this story. Let's not allow the numerous sensationalized stories of pedophile teachers to twist this ugly before we know what really happened. 95% of teachers are good people. They just don't make the news.

 

[Jeff Vader]

There's a lot of people in this thread jumping to conclusions without knowing one thing about this relationship.

Could it have been sexual or flirty? Yes.

It could have been something else too.

You just don't know.

 

[Apple Jack]

Definitely doesn't pass the sniff test. There's more to this than what is in the story.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

What if that "emotional relationship" was that of a surrogate father because the girl confessed to

her teacher that her dad was a psychotic ##### who sometimes hit her. What if the teacher showed up to the house because he honestly wanted to try to talk to the dad to calm him down

before he hit the girl again. What if the teacher didn't go to the police because the girl begged him not to, so he thought he'd try reasoning with the father first?

There's lot of things not said in this story. Let's

not allow the numerous sensationalized stories

of pedophile teachers to twist this ugly before we know what really happened. 95% of teachers are good people. They just don't make the news.

Still not appropriate

 

[Jeff Vader]

 

[Steve Tasker]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

What if that "emotional relationship" was that of a surrogate father because the girl confessed to her teacher that her dad was a psychotic ##### who sometimes hit her. What if the teacher showed up to the house because he honestly wanted to try to talk to the dad to calm him down before he hit the girl again. What if the teacher didn't go to the police because the girl begged him not to, so he thought he'd try reasoning with the father first?

There's lot of things not said in this story. Let's not allow the numerous sensationalized stories of pedophile teachers to twist this ugly before we know what really happened. 95% of teachers are good people. They just don't make the news.

Are teachers mandated reporters in Maryland? They are in NY.

 

[DiStefano]

The teacher either has some cajones, or is really dumb to show up to talk to the dad...then didn't leave when asked to.

Yup, dumb teacher. That's the result you're gonna get!

Why would the teacher have boxes?

 

[Wingnut]

The teacher either has some cajones, or is really dumb to show up to talk to the dad...then didn't leave when asked to.

Yup, dumb teacher. That's the result you're gonna get!

Why would the teacher have boxes?

What I meant to say was he would have to have cojones to go after her cajone.

 

[McGarnicle]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

What if that "emotional relationship" was that of a surrogate father because the girl confessed to her teacher that her dad was a psychotic ##### who sometimes hit her. What if the teacher showed up to the house because he honestly wanted to try to talk to the dad to calm him down before he hit the girl again. What if the teacher didn't go to the police because the girl begged him not to, so he thought he'd try reasoning with the father first?

There's lot of things not said in this story. Let's not allow the numerous sensationalized stories of pedophile teachers to twist this ugly before we know what really happened. 95% of teachers are good people. They just don't make the news.

Are teachers mandated reporters in Maryland? They are in NY.

99% likelihood they are. And regardless, common sense says a teacher goes immediately to the authorities in such cases. If that isn't drilled into their heads from day one, then shame on the school board. Carrying on a clandestine texting relationship with the kid defies any kind of logic. As does the mom calling the cops if that was really what these texts were about.

 

[Jeff Vader]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

What if that "emotional relationship" was that of a surrogate father because the girl confessed to her teacher that her dad was a psychotic ##### who sometimes hit her. What if the teacher showed up to the house because he honestly wanted to try to talk to the dad to calm him down before he hit the girl again. What if the teacher didn't go to the police because the girl begged him not to, so he thought he'd try reasoning with the father first?

There's lot of things not said in this story. Let's not allow the numerous sensationalized stories of pedophile teachers to twist this ugly before we know what really happened. 95% of teachers are good people. They just don't make the news.

Are teachers mandated reporters in Maryland? They are in NY.

I have no idea. You're right about NY though. Ms. Vader is a HS teacher and she would have had to report the father immediately.

In my scenario (which is no more true than the pedophile nonsense people are saying above), I bet the guy became emotionally attached to the girl and that clouded his judgement - made him become more personally involved and hopeful he could do something about the situation himself. Maybe the girl doesn't have a mother (none is mentioned). Maybe he was afraid reporting the father would send this girl into the foster care system. Lots of possibilities there.

Even so, the teacher made a poor call. No doubt about that. My point is maybe he did it for compassionate reasons. You just don't know.

 

[Britney Spears]

Gonna need to see the texts before I can pass judgment.

Why is the teacher texting with a student anyway?

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Yeah, no mention of the mother except in the article when it states the mother read the texts and called the cops.

 

[Jeff Vader]

Yeah, no mention of the mother except in the article when it states the mother read the texts and called the cops.

Doh. Missed that. Yea, so scratch the foster care theory. Who knows.

 

[Jeff Vader]

Gonna need to see the texts before I can pass judgment.

Why is the teacher texting with a student anyway?

Agree this is bad move from the start. Opening that avenue with a fifteen year old is not a smart move, regardless of situation.

 

[Ilov80s]

Gonna need to see the texts before I can pass judgment.

Why is the teacher texting with a student anyway?

I have texted a select group of juniors and seniors. I sponsor classes and when planning Prom, doing fundraisers, etc sometimes I need to talk with the StuCo members.

 

[zamboni]

Gonna need to see the texts before I can pass judgment.

Why is the teacher texting with a student anyway?

I have texted a select group of juniors and seniors. I sponsor classes and when planning Prom, doing fundraisers, etc sometimes I need to talk with the StuCo members.

May want to consider avoiding texts from now on. Try faxing them.

 

[Kal El]

What can you say without seeing the texts? The father might be a lunatic.

Dozens of texts between a middle-aged teacher and a 15 year old girl. The texts weren't about homework. Police said the texts indicate an emotional relationship. You need to know more?

What if that "emotional relationship" was that of a surrogate father because the girl confessed to her teacher that her dad was a psychotic ##### who sometimes hit her. What if the teacher showed up to the house because he honestly wanted to try to talk to the dad to calm him down before he hit the girl again. What if the teacher didn't go to the police because the girl begged him not to, so he thought he'd try reasoning with the father first?

There's lot of things not said in this story. Let's not allow the numerous sensationalized stories of pedophile teachers to twist this ugly before we know what really happened. 95% of teachers are good people. They just don't make the news.

Are teachers mandated reporters in Maryland? They are in NY.

I have no idea. You're right about NY though. Ms. Vader is a HS teacher and she would have had to report the father immediately.

In my scenario (which is no more true than the pedophile nonsense people are saying above), I bet the guy became emotionally attached to the girl and that clouded his judgement - made him become more personally involved and hopeful he could do something about the situation himself. Maybe the girl doesn't have a mother (none is mentioned). Maybe he was afraid reporting the father would send this girl into the foster care system. Lots of possibilities there.

Even so, the teacher made a poor call. No doubt about that. My point is maybe he did it for compassionate reasons. You just don't know.

This is still a bad idea, no matter the intention. If the father is a jerkwad who abused the daughter, then he should go to jail. The teacher, if he suspected abuse, should have gone to the cops with his suspicions, and in no way should have started a texting relationship with the girl.

 

[Zow]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

Right. That's the weirdest fact of all of this to me.* Even if the teacher wanted to clear things up.

*The second being the student having the teacher's cell phone. I teach a college class and learned my listen quickly how dumb of an idea that was even at that level.

 

[Kal El]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

Right. That's the weirdest fact of all of this to me.* Even if the teacher wanted to clear things up. *The second being the student having the teacher's cell phone. I teach a college class and learned my listen quickly how dumb of an idea that was even at that level.

I'm starting a math teacher job at the high school level, and I'm not giving out my number to any students. Same with Facebook requests.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Stupid teacher, why would you go to their house? No matter what the texts or relationship was, it's just dumb.

Right. That's the weirdest fact of all of this to me.* Even if the teacher wanted to clear things up. *The second being the student having the teacher's cell phone. I teach a college class and learned my listen quickly how dumb of an idea that was even at that level.

I'm starting a math teacher job at the high school level, and I'm not giving out my number to any students. Same with Facebook requests.

Well, yeah.

 

[Christo]

Gonna need to see the texts before I can pass judgment.

Why is the teacher texting with a student anyway?

Gonna need to see the texts to know.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Would so awesome if the teacher turns out to be MoP.

 

[grateful zed]

perhaps she was 'emmotionally' older that 15.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Sounds like dad just needed some Orbit gum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tcKdfy1Ego

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tcKdfy1Ego

 

[Rove!]

Background music for this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bpOBAwrFVw

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

This reminds me of an old Naomi Watts movie...

Gross Misconduct ( I think that's what it was called)

Would be interested to see what was involved in the texts

 

[Brony]

Would be nice to know what emoticons were used too.

 

[Rove!]

Would be nice to know what emoticons were used too.

 

[VA703]

how can the teacher file for assault when he refused to leave the guys house, at that point it could be considered self defense

 

[Christo]

how can the teacher file for assault when he refused to leave the guys house, at that point it could be considered self defense

What does the law say?