DAL running game tonight (1 Viewer)

[TenTimes]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

 

[finito]

If I had to pick I'd take Jones. Choice looked great last year; someday he could very easily be an every down back, but I think Jones will get the bulk of the touches tonight if Barber is indeed out.

 

[texasheat]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

I think choice sees more touches than Felix tonight. I don't see the Felix role changing much, Choice will take over the Barber role. My guess

Choice 15-18 carries - 2-3 receptions

Felix 10 carries - 2-3 receptions

 

[KellysHeroes]

I'm starting both...

 

[karmarooster]

in carries + targets, i'm expecting a 60/40 or 55/45 split in favor of Felix. We'll see.

 

[meanjoegreen]

The Dallas offense should have a good game tonight since the Panthers defense is plagued with injuries right now.

 

[TenTimes]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

I think choice sees more touches than Felix tonight. I don't see the Felix role changing much, Choice will take over the Barber role. My guess

Choice 15-18 carries - 2-3 receptions

Felix 10 carries - 2-3 receptions

Same here. I know Felix is special (moreso to some than others) but I think he's more suited for a change of pace role with Barber, or in this case Choice, getting a majority, at least between the 20's.On the other hand I do think Felix is the goalline back.

 

[switz]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

This has been argued ad nauseum. The Dallas beat writers have Jones getting 20+ touches, and Choice getting 10+ touches. Given their usage when both have been healthy, I'd be hard stretched to see why anyone thinks Choice would see more carries than Jones, unless they own Choice.However, both should be productive against Carolina's run defense.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Choice get the first couple carries, to see if they can catch Carolina unprepared, if Carolina was thinking Jones would be the guy. But I believe Jones will see the most touches of the two RBs by a significant margin. We'll have to wait and see for sure. This game should tell us a lot about what the Cowboys think of Jones and his potential role with the team.

 

[texasheat]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

This has been argued ad nauseum. The Dallas beat writers have Jones getting 20+ touches, and Choice getting 10+ touches. Given their usage when both have been healthy, I'd be hard stretched to see why anyone thinks Choice would see more carries than Jones, unless they own Choice.However, both should be productive against Carolina's run defense.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Choice get the first couple carries, to see if they can catch Carolina unprepared, if Carolina was thinking Jones would be the guy. But I believe Jones will see the most touches of the two RBs by a significant margin. We'll have to wait and see for sure. This game should tell us a lot about what the Cowboys think of Jones and his potential role with the team.

I think this and do not own Choice in any league.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I don't think anyone knows for sure...but I'm hoping it's Felix. I need about 30 pts from him, that's all.

 

[Badm]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

This has been argued ad nauseum. The Dallas beat writers have Jones getting 20+ touches, and Choice getting 10+ touches. Given their usage when both have been healthy, I'd be hard stretched to see why anyone thinks Choice would see more carries than Jones, unless they own Choice.However, both should be productive against Carolina's run defense.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Choice get the first couple carries, to see if they can catch Carolina unprepared, if Carolina was thinking Jones would be the guy. But I believe Jones will see the most touches of the two RBs by a significant margin. We'll have to wait and see for sure. This game should tell us a lot about what the Cowboys think of Jones and his potential role with the team.

I think this and do not own Choice in any league.

I agree as well. I can't wait to see Felix have this chance. Haven't been this pumped for a non-Bears game in a long time.....

 

[t_gunslinger]

IMO

Felix is going to be on the same pace as any other week. Choice will get the increase.

Felix is still returning and I have yet to see him come into the O for 5 or 6 plays after returning a kit.

If MB3 dose not play this only give Choice more time on the field.

 

[Maven]

They avg about 25-27 running plays a game. If Barber plays and is healthy, Felix is getting his usual 9 carries with Barber hogging the load.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Tashard Choice is going to get 2/3's of the carries, imo. Felix's role isn't going to change, just because MBIII is out. I don't see why people think otherwise.

Must I remind everyone how Choice looked the last few games last year w/ a BRUTAL string of defenses that he faced???

 

[benm3218]

Interesting how all the Cowboy fans think Choice gets the increase but Switz is still pumping the Felix band wagon...

I do own Choice and I do think he will get the increase. Why would the Cowboys change the way they run?

They know for a fact that Choice can do it just like Barber and they know Felix is a dynamic explosive playmaker. They wont change their entire strategy if Barber is out...

 

[t_gunslinger]

Interesting how all the Cowboy fans think Choice gets the increase but Switz is still pumping the Felix band wagon... I do own Choice and I do think he will get the increase. Why would the Cowboys change the way they run? They know for a fact that Choice can do it just like Barber and they know Felix is a dynamic explosive playmaker. They wont change their entire strategy if Barber is out...

 

[Gordon09]

They avg about 25-27 running plays a game. If Barber plays and is healthy, Felix is getting his usual 9 carries with Barber hogging the load.

Given the circumstances..1.) Romo coming off a miserable game2.) Carolina defense is decimated by injuries3.) Cowboys ran up and down on the GiantsI'd imagine the Cowboys will exceed that total this week. Also, I think they'll pull in the reigns on Romo a little so I can see a lot of checkdowns and designed screns to both RB's. My prediction would be..Felix - 16-18 carries, 2-3 receptionsTashard - 12-14 carries, 2-3 receptionsThen again, this could all just be wishful thinking. Garrett has never really leaned toward the run in the past, and almost seems opposed to running all together, so who knows.

 

[switz]

Interesting how all the Cowboy fans think Choice gets the increase but Switz is still pumping the Felix band wagon...

I do own Choice and I do think he will get the increase. Why would the Cowboys change the way they run?

They know for a fact that Choice can do it just like Barber and they know Felix is a dynamic explosive playmaker. They wont change their entire strategy if Barber is out...

Don't let a few misguided fans here make you think ALL Cowboys fans feel that way.The fact is that "the way they run" means nothing, since Jones and Barber are used on the exact same running plays. I'm not sure if people think there are some special plays Felix runs, or that they only use him on outside runs, or something like that. Reality is, they call the exact same running plays regardless of which back is in there.

I'm sure Choice's role will increase, I've never said it won't. I just don't believe he'll receive more touches than Felix. Nothing the beat writers have said or coaches actions have shown would lead me to believe that.

 

[Ridgelake]

Well, I'm a big Cowboy fan and I think Felix will get to play 1st and 2nd downs with Choice getting the 3rd down work plus an occasional series. Been saying that since that sewer of a thread about MBIII's injury popped up. Thats how both of them have been used this year. No real reason to expect otherwise tonight.

 

[kd1]

if tashard choice both gets more touches and outproduces felix jones (barring injury), i will cut my wiener off.

 

[MacGruber]

I see Felix getting plenty more reps tonight. This is Jerry Jones' guy and tonight is a time for Jerry's ego to be stroked. Jones wants to be known as a shrewd evaluator of player talent. I'm sure he's made subtle and indirect overtures to the coaching staff about showcasing his boy Felix this week with Barber out. In Jerry's eyes it's the opportune time for national audience to clearly see what great draft pick Jerry made.

 

[gnarboots11]

I think Choice could see 6 or more receptions, along with 15 or so carries, making him a very strong PPR start. I do not see Felix getting more than 1 reception, if any.

 

[t_gunslinger]

if tashard choice both gets more touches and outproduces felix jones (barring injury), i will cut my wiener off.

That's a Bet.No mo fo U

 

[greggorymac]

How early before kick-off do the Cowboys have to announce their inactives for the game?

 

[kd1]

if tashard choice both gets more touches and outproduces felix jones (barring injury), i will cut my wiener off.

That's a Bet.No mo fo U

where's the bet in that?

 

[BradtheAg]

50/50 imo. choice fits the barber role better but felix is the more talented back.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Tashard Choice is going to get 2/3's of the carries, imo. Felix's role isn't going to change, just because MBIII is out. I don't see why people think otherwise.

Must I remind everyone how Choice looked the last few games last year w/ a BRUTAL string of defenses that he faced???

Must I remind you that Jones was hurt?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

if tashard choice both gets more touches and outproduces felix jones (barring injury), i will cut my wiener off.

Damn, leave the wee wee out of this conversation

 

[Ned]

if tashard choice both gets more touches and outproduces felix jones (barring injury), i will cut my wiener off.

:X

 

[California]

From one of the links switz posted earlier:

Still, the thought of feeding the ball to Jones is nerve-wracking because he has been hobbled with injuries several times since the Cowboys selected him in 2008 with the 22nd pick of the first round.He missed 10 games last season with hamstring and toe injuries, and he dinged his thigh on his first carry of the year against Tampa Bay, limiting his role in that game.All you can really do is hope that these are coincidences – not a trend. Perhaps, it's better to treat him like a 1960 Corvette and give him the ball occasionally as opposed to driving him like a Ford F-250 and giving him the ball 20 times a game.The Cowboys, of course, could make a one-game exception and feed Jones the ball as much as possible since they don't expect Barber to be out for an extended period.Jones is such a dynamic player that he makes you want to see him with the ball in his hands as much as possible.This is nothing new.It was like that at Arkansas, where he rushed for 1,168 yards on 154 carries as a sophomore and 1,160 yards on 134 carries as a junior. Only once at Arkansas did Jones carry the ball as much as 20 times in a game.Nothing has changed in Dallas.He's never carried the ball more than nine times in a game, and that's only happened twice.

Those Arkansas stats are pretty remarkable. Can anyone that's followed him in college explain why his total carry count is so low?

 

[benm3218]

From one of the links switz posted earlier:

Still, the thought of feeding the ball to Jones is nerve-wracking because he has been hobbled with injuries several times since the Cowboys selected him in 2008 with the 22nd pick of the first round.He missed 10 games last season with hamstring and toe injuries, and he dinged his thigh on his first carry of the year against Tampa Bay, limiting his role in that game.All you can really do is hope that these are coincidences – not a trend. Perhaps, it's better to treat him like a 1960 Corvette and give him the ball occasionally as opposed to driving him like a Ford F-250 and giving him the ball 20 times a game.The Cowboys, of course, could make a one-game exception and feed Jones the ball as much as possible since they don't expect Barber to be out for an extended period.Jones is such a dynamic player that he makes you want to see him with the ball in his hands as much as possible.This is nothing new.It was like that at Arkansas, where he rushed for 1,168 yards on 154 carries as a sophomore and 1,160 yards on 134 carries as a junior. Only once at Arkansas did Jones carry the ball as much as 20 times in a game.Nothing has changed in Dallas.He's never carried the ball more than nine times in a game, and that's only happened twice.

Those Arkansas stats are pretty remarkable. Can anyone that's followed him in college explain why his total carry count is so low?

Adrian Peterson?

 

[BradtheAg]

mcfadden ate up most of the carries at arky. jones was the incredibly effective change of pace guy.

 

[jobarules]

From one of the links switz posted earlier:

Still, the thought of feeding the ball to Jones is nerve-wracking because he has been hobbled with injuries several times since the Cowboys selected him in 2008 with the 22nd pick of the first round.He missed 10 games last season with hamstring and toe injuries, and he dinged his thigh on his first carry of the year against Tampa Bay, limiting his role in that game.All you can really do is hope that these are coincidences – not a trend. Perhaps, it's better to treat him like a 1960 Corvette and give him the ball occasionally as opposed to driving him like a Ford F-250 and giving him the ball 20 times a game.The Cowboys, of course, could make a one-game exception and feed Jones the ball as much as possible since they don't expect Barber to be out for an extended period.Jones is such a dynamic player that he makes you want to see him with the ball in his hands as much as possible.This is nothing new.It was like that at Arkansas, where he rushed for 1,168 yards on 154 carries as a sophomore and 1,160 yards on 134 carries as a junior. Only once at Arkansas did Jones carry the ball as much as 20 times in a game.Nothing has changed in Dallas.He's never carried the ball more than nine times in a game, and that's only happened twice.

Those Arkansas stats are pretty remarkable. Can anyone that's followed him in college explain why his total carry count is so low?

he played behind a guy called Darren McFadden

 

[pantherclub]

From one of the links switz posted earlier:

Still, the thought of feeding the ball to Jones is nerve-wracking because he has been hobbled with injuries several times since the Cowboys selected him in 2008 with the 22nd pick of the first round.He missed 10 games last season with hamstring and toe injuries, and he dinged his thigh on his first carry of the year against Tampa Bay, limiting his role in that game.All you can really do is hope that these are coincidences – not a trend. Perhaps, it's better to treat him like a 1960 Corvette and give him the ball occasionally as opposed to driving him like a Ford F-250 and giving him the ball 20 times a game.The Cowboys, of course, could make a one-game exception and feed Jones the ball as much as possible since they don't expect Barber to be out for an extended period.Jones is such a dynamic player that he makes you want to see him with the ball in his hands as much as possible.This is nothing new.It was like that at Arkansas, where he rushed for 1,168 yards on 154 carries as a sophomore and 1,160 yards on 134 carries as a junior. Only once at Arkansas did Jones carry the ball as much as 20 times in a game.Nothing has changed in Dallas.He's never carried the ball more than nine times in a game, and that's only happened twice.

Those Arkansas stats are pretty remarkable. Can anyone that's followed him in college explain why his total carry count is so low?

Adrian Peterson?

wow that was too easy.

 

[California]

mcfadden ate up most of the carries at arky. jones was the incredibly effective change of pace guy.

Ahhh, makes sense. Thanks for that (sorry, not a big college fb guy).

 

[One]

if tashard choice both gets more touches and outproduces felix jones (barring injury), i will cut my wiener off.

wieners

 

[coolnerd]

I don't think anyone knows for sure...but I'm hoping it's Felix. I need about 30 pts from him, that's all.

Here is your answer. As non-cowboy fan living in Arlington the organization has yet to give any sort of straight answer or worthwhile indication as to the health of Barber nor the spilit of carries between choice and jones.

 

[mrspree15]

Does anyone know if Jones is still returning kicks to go along with an increase role?

 

[moondog]

I believe inactive players have to be declared 90 minutes before kickoff. The only way I would be comfortable playing Choice is if Barber is on the inactive list.

 

[switz]

From one of the links switz posted earlier:

Still, the thought of feeding the ball to Jones is nerve-wracking because he has been hobbled with injuries several times since the Cowboys selected him in 2008 with the 22nd pick of the first round.

He missed 10 games last season with hamstring and toe injuries, and he dinged his thigh on his first carry of the year against Tampa Bay, limiting his role in that game.

All you can really do is hope that these are coincidences – not a trend. Perhaps, it's better to treat him like a 1960 Corvette and give him the ball occasionally as opposed to driving him like a Ford F-250 and giving him the ball 20 times a game.

The Cowboys, of course, could make a one-game exception and feed Jones the ball as much as possible since they don't expect Barber to be out for an extended period.

Jones is such a dynamic player that he makes you want to see him with the ball in his hands as much as possible.

This is nothing new.

It was like that at Arkansas, where he rushed for 1,168 yards on 154 carries as a sophomore and 1,160 yards on 134 carries as a junior. Only once at Arkansas did Jones carry the ball as much as 20 times in a game.

Nothing has changed in Dallas.

He's never carried the ball more than nine times in a game, and that's only happened twice.

Those Arkansas stats are pretty remarkable. Can anyone that's followed him in college explain why his total carry count is so low?

They had McFadden.Of note, his 21 carry game was against South Carolina, almost half his carries came on the final drive when they were running out the clock. It's much like the Colts game last night, where it looked like Brown got a lot of carries from the stat line, but in reality, he didn't see too much action until the final drive of the game.

During his college career he had I believe 5 games with 15 or more carries, and in most of them he averaged over 5 YPC. He had a really nice game against LSU in '06 and Mississippi in '07. But for most games he saw around 10 carries. That's it. Perhaps that's why Dallas has used him the way they have. I dunno.

Watch him play, and you know he's incredibly explosive. Can he be explosive on 15-20 carries? That's the question, and while we may all have an opinion, we won't know unless Dallas gives him the opportunity.

ETA - it's been a long time since he was in HS, but his senior HS season he racked up 2,200 plus yards and 41 rushing TDs. He was Booker T. Washington's feature RB. Rated 19th best athlete in the country by Rivals.

 

[ttea]

From one of the links switz posted earlier:

Still, the thought of feeding the ball to Jones is nerve-wracking because he has been hobbled with injuries several times since the Cowboys selected him in 2008 with the 22nd pick of the first round.He missed 10 games last season with hamstring and toe injuries, and he dinged his thigh on his first carry of the year against Tampa Bay, limiting his role in that game.All you can really do is hope that these are coincidences – not a trend. Perhaps, it's better to treat him like a 1960 Corvette and give him the ball occasionally as opposed to driving him like a Ford F-250 and giving him the ball 20 times a game.The Cowboys, of course, could make a one-game exception and feed Jones the ball as much as possible since they don't expect Barber to be out for an extended period.Jones is such a dynamic player that he makes you want to see him with the ball in his hands as much as possible.This is nothing new.It was like that at Arkansas, where he rushed for 1,168 yards on 154 carries as a sophomore and 1,160 yards on 134 carries as a junior. Only once at Arkansas did Jones carry the ball as much as 20 times in a game.Nothing has changed in Dallas.He's never carried the ball more than nine times in a game, and that's only happened twice.

Those Arkansas stats are pretty remarkable. Can anyone that's followed him in college explain why his total carry count is so low?

Adrian Peterson?

Darren McFadden.

 

[texasheat]

Who gets how many carries tonight? I'll be honest, I was more impressed with Choice in the Tampa game, does anybody think he might get a bulk of the work?

Many of us have Felix starting with Choice on the WW. Should we sub in Choice or am I over thinking this?

I think choice sees more touches than Felix tonight. I don't see the Felix role changing much, Choice will take over the Barber role. My guess

Choice 15-18 carries - 2-3 receptions

Felix 10 carries - 2-3 receptions

I knew it

 

[duaneok66]

LOL@ Steve Young saying Felix Jones should get more carries while ESPN shows him getting hurt . . .

It's sad you get 10X the analysis from the Shark Pool . . .

 

[Black]

LOL@ Steve Young saying Felix Jones should get more carries while ESPN shows him getting hurt . . .It's sad you get 10X the analysis from the Shark Pool . . .

All the discussions, and noone really brought up this point. How can this guy get hurt so much?

 

[zoonation]

Can't wait for the Switz spin.

Jones will never get the lion's share of the work. He is a great talent though, no doubt.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Tashard Choice is going to get 2/3's of the carries, imo. Felix's role isn't going to change, just because MBIII is out. I don't see why people think otherwise.Must I remind everyone how Choice looked the last few games last year w/ a BRUTAL string of defenses that he faced???

Just sayin'....

 

[gnarboots11]

Choice was my top scorer this week and won me my match up, and I knew it! Thanks shark pool!

 

[bill bates hits hard]

felix is unbelievable but very fragile.

he's an expensive car you don't take out too much cause it will get dinged up. .. only on the highways...

barber and choice are your everyday vehicles.

 

[Football Jones]

Providing Felix stays healthy, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind he starts getting more & more touches as the season goes along. Barber & Choice are very good players, but Felix can put their offense on a whole different level. He can make that big of a difference. If Felix hadn't gotten hurt tonight, he would've had a MONSTER game. He might be the best pure runner in the NFL right now.

That said, I understand why Barber is their lead back right now. It makes sense. Felix actually doesn't have much game experience & they're going to bring him along a little at a time. No doubt they have big plans for him, though. We saw right away that Felix was going to get the vast majority of touches tonight.

As far as a timeline, I believe Felix could lead the league in rushing as soon as next year (provided he has the opportunity). Obviously, he needs to stay healthy, but this kid could be Dallas' next great RB. Not that they would phase out Barber, but sooner or later, he'll be the backup to Felix, IMO.

 

[duaneok66]

Providing Felix stays healthy, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind he starts getting more & more touches as the season goes along. Barber & Choice are very good players, but Felix can put their offense on a whole different level. He can make that big of a difference. If Felix hadn't gotten hurt tonight, he would've had a MONSTER game. He might be the best pure runner in the NFL right now.That said, I understand why Barber is their lead back right now. It makes sense. Felix actually doesn't have much game experience & they're going to bring him along a little at a time. No doubt they have big plans for him, though. We saw right away that Felix was going to get the vast majority of touches tonight.As far as a timeline, I believe Felix could lead the league in rushing as soon as next year (provided he has the opportunity). Obviously, he needs to stay healthy, but this kid could be Dallas' next great RB. Not that they would phase out Barber, but sooner or later, he'll be the backup to Felix, IMO.

nice dream . . .to lead the NFL in rushing, you need to have some ability to run inside . . .people thinking Felix will ever take over for a healthy Barber are thinking FF only . . .