Dallas Clark gets disrespected every week... (1 Viewer)

[benm3218]

Dallas Clark is currently ranked number 22 on the targets chart, with 32 targets.

The game breakdown on the targets is as follows:

Game 1 = 5 targets

Game 2 = 10 targets and a TD

Game 3 = 6 targets and a TD

Game 4 = 11 targets and 2 TD's

Clark has 10 redzone targets and leads Colts recievers in the Redzone.

Now, one factor for his rankings never being high, could be the other options the team has. Maybe, analysts feel that he will have a hard time keeping this up due to Harrison and Wayne and Gonzalez getting thier's too?

While I agree that there are many options on the team, I still feel that he would rank higher than 11 last week and 7 this week.

Tampa Bay has a good defense, if Harrison is out again then Wayne gets the star treatment. I just don't see his production dropping much this week. I think you are looking at another 60 or 70 yards and a TD or more.

It seems to me that this week would be another play for him. FWIW I see him as a top 5 TE as the year finishes. Harrison is getting older and maybe a wee lil bit slower. Maybe this is why he is stepping up so much this year.

 

[Urinal Mint]

It helped last week that he stepped into the flank and filled Marvin Harrison's spot.

 

[Sleeper 43]

Dallas Clark is currently ranked number 22 on the targets chart, with 32 targets. The game breakdown on the targets is as follows: Game 1 = 5 targetsGame 2 = 10 targets and a TDGame 3 = 6 targets and a TDGame 4 = 11 targets and 2 TD'sClark has 10 redzone targets and leads Colts recievers in the Redzone.Now, one factor for his rankings never being high, could be the other options the team has. Maybe, analysts feel that he will have a hard time keeping this up due to Harrison and Wayne and Gonzalez getting thier's too?While I agree that there are many options on the team, I still feel that he would rank higher than 11 last week and 7 this week. Tampa Bay has a good defense, if Harrison is out again then Wayne gets the star treatment. I just don't see his production dropping much this week. I think you are looking at another 60 or 70 yards and a TD or more. It seems to me that this week would be another play for him. FWIW I see him as a top 5 TE as the year finishes. Harrison is getting older and maybe a wee lil bit slower. Maybe this is why he is stepping up so much this year.

Or maybe hes been in the league for awhile now and this is the first year where hes put up great consecutive game numbers. Everyone's been waiting for the sporadic numbers which is understandable historically.Dallas Clark has always been a hit or miss guy in a explosive indy offense with a ton of weapons. He's always been a solid bye week replacement but I think its safe to say NOW after week 4 that they plan on using him alot more.

 

[Lord Lucan]

When Harrison left the game on Sunday Clark lined up in his position (on the right) for much of the remaining game, with Wayne in the slot, and Manning targeted him frequently despite the fact that Champ was often covering him. He pretty much plays as a WR rather than a TE anyway, albeit from the slot.

 

[maxwell1295]

I think the lack of a good, dependable slot receiver (Stokeley) combined with the slow development of Gonzalez will create a lot more opportunities for Clark. He's definitely looking like $$$ in the red zone this year...

 

[KellysHeroes]

shhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Otis]

Interesting little tidbit that had me thinking good things about Clark before the season began -- he is Peyton Manning's new roommate. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[benm3218]

Clark isn't black, so he doesn't care about respect. He just cares about winning.

WOWI can't believe you just said that.... That is very rediculous.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Clark isn't black, so he doesn't care about respect. He just cares about winning.

WOWI can't believe you just said that.... That is very rediculous.

WOWI can't believe you just said that.... That is very ridiculous.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

Clark isn't black, so he doesn't care about respect. He just cares about winning.

WOWI can't believe you just said that.... That is very rediculous.

Is it? Seems to me a lot of black athletes waste time talking about respect. I don't think I've ever heard elite athletes of any other color/race spend so much time worrying about "respect."

 

[benm3218]

Clark isn't black, so he doesn't care about respect. He just cares about winning.

WOWI can't believe you just said that.... That is very rediculous.

Is it? Seems to me a lot of black athletes waste time talking about respect. I don't think I've ever heard elite athletes of any other color/race spend so much time worrying about "respect."

I don't understand where you are coming from with this. You have an opinion and an agenda I guess... The lack of respect was my opinion. I don't share your opinions on the race issue. Please don't destroy a nice thread about Clark's emergence by doing this. Take it somewhere else.

 

[Sack-Religious]

And so begins the downward spiral.

 

[Colin Dowling]

THere is no issue interjecting race in to a discussion if it is applicable. That being the case, I would encourage everyone to make sure their comments (re: race or otherwise) have some substance....

 

[benm3218]

THere is no issue interjecting race in to a discussion if it is applicable. That being the case, I would encourage everyone to make sure their comments (re: race or otherwise) have some substance....

One other stat I found on Clark I forgot to post before, only gates has more targets among TE's.I think that there are more black athletes than white worldwide. So, you hear more from them simply because there are more of that race to talk, not because they are overly concerned with respect.

I would cite Jerry Rice, LT, Marvin Harrison and hundreds of others who are not concerned with respect.

I do not think the race argument has any merit whatsoever.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

I think that there are more black athletes than white worldwide. So, you hear more from them simply because there are more of that race to talk, not because they are overly concerned with respect.

I guess I'll just let this go. You're talking crazy now.

 

[fatness]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Please drop the race issue stuff on this one and keep the focus on the player.

TIA.

J

 

[Colin Dowling]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

 

[faux_bear]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

And a) "experts" were expecting Anthony Gonzalez to become the clear third option in the passing attack, and b) the development of Ben Utecht and Bryan Fletcher was expected to cut into Clark's numbers.In his pre-season evaluation of Clark, Jeff Pasquino said somehing to the effect of, and I'm only paraphrasing here, 'I would be second-guessing any draft I had in which Dallas Clark was the number 1 TE.His preseason projections were something to the effect of 38 catches, 470 yds, and 5 TD's.Right now the guy has 19 receps, 251 yds, and 4 TDs, and has better fantasy numbers than every other TE except Gates and Winslow.Like Derrick Mason, everyone seemed to be sleeping on this guy and most of us are now regretting it.

 

[Joe T]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

:(

How often has Clark been hurt?

 

[MelvinTScupper]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

How often has Clark been hurt?

he missed the end of last yearthe previous year he missed the bye weekthe previous year he missed the first gamethe previous year 3 games early in the seasonso, in 4 years, he missed 8 games out of 52 gamesWOW, WHAT AN INJURY RISK

 

[fatness]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

How often has Clark been hurt?

YEAR GP RCPT YARDS TD 2001 1 3 39 1 0 2003 17 29 340 1 0 2004 15 25 423 5 02005 15 37 488 4 0 2006 12 30 367 4 0 That's the number of games played, which if I remember correctly included some partial games and some games where he was injured/questionable/played hurt anyway. He's never had over 37 receptions a year up til now. The perception, right or wrong, is that he's a fairly high injury risk.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I thought he'd missed more time then that.....

 

[Joe T]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

How often has Clark been hurt?

YEAR GP RCPT YARDS TD 2001 1 3 39 1 0 2003 17 29 340 1 0 2004 15 25 423 5 02005 15 37 488 4 0 2006 12 30 367 4 0 That's the number of games played, which if I remember correctly included some partial games and some games where he was injured/questionable/played hurt anyway. He's never had over 37 receptions a year up til now. The perception, right or wrong, is that he's a fairly high injury risk.

I guess I just don't share nor have heard this perception.

 

[Pipes]

The reason Clark gets disrespected is because people are waiting for him to get hurt, which happens a lot.

How often has Clark been hurt?

YEAR GP RCPT YARDS TD 2001 1 3 39 1 0 2003 17 29 340 1 0 2004 15 25 423 5 02005 15 37 488 4 0 2006 12 30 367 4 0 That's the number of games played, which if I remember correctly included some partial games and some games where he was injured/questionable/played hurt anyway. He's never had over 37 receptions a year up til now. The perception, right or wrong, is that he's a fairly high injury risk.

So it's not so much that he's been an injury risk it's just that up until this year he's only produced numbers that a mediocre TE would.

 

[fatness]

Examples from last year of perceptions of Clark being injury-prone:

I am high on Dallas Clark. Most of what I have read coming from Indy has been talking about getting him more involved in the passing game over the offseason. I know they have said this before. However Clark seems to have matured now. And it has been minor injuries holding him back before.

Add in the fact that the TE is the 3rd or 4th (or even 5th) option for Manning after Wayne, Harrison, Stokley and the RB (Rhodes or Addai) and I wouldn't be comfortable starting him.

This also assumes 100% health, which is often a BIG assumption.

This guy isn't under the radar, I think it fell on his head. I've sworn off drafting him because he gets dinged all the time. I think I saw he already had a concussion game one, after getting one in preseason. Add to it that Utech and Fletcher are there, Clark gets in line with 4-5 receivers for a piece of the pie. Clark is consistently over rated in my opinon. Plays for a great team, can make a nice catch, but won't give you steady numbers.

Clark is above average as a TE, but unfortunately he's the tight end position's answer to Dan Morgan: a concussion waiting to happen.

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Indianapolis' Dallas Clark suffered a slight concussion during the week 3 pre-season game. The injury is not considered serious as of 8/28/06, although concussions have been known to cause after-effects several days after the initial injury occurs. Clark's owners/potential owners will want to keep an eye on his practice status during the final week of August.

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Thanks, i saw something about him having problems in the past with concussions so they might take it slow with him. Guess I'll start Wiggins, maybe I shouldn't have waited so long for the DEEP TE position this year!!

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[Joe T]

Examples from last year of perceptions of Clark being injury-prone:

I am high on Dallas Clark. Most of what I have read coming from Indy has been talking about getting him more involved in the passing game over the offseason. I know they have said this before. However Clark seems to have matured now. And it has been minor injuries holding him back before.

Add in the fact that the TE is the 3rd or 4th (or even 5th) option for Manning after Wayne, Harrison, Stokley and the RB (Rhodes or Addai) and I wouldn't be comfortable starting him.

This also assumes 100% health, which is often a BIG assumption.

This guy isn't under the radar, I think it fell on his head. I've sworn off drafting him because he gets dinged all the time. I think I saw he already had a concussion game one, after getting one in preseason. Add to it that Utech and Fletcher are there, Clark gets in line with 4-5 receivers for a piece of the pie. Clark is consistently over rated in my opinon. Plays for a great team, can make a nice catch, but won't give you steady numbers.

Clark is above average as a TE, but unfortunately he's the tight end position's answer to Dan Morgan: a concussion waiting to happen.

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Indianapolis' Dallas Clark suffered a slight concussion during the week 3 pre-season game. The injury is not considered serious as of 8/28/06, although concussions have been known to cause after-effects several days after the initial injury occurs. Clark's owners/potential owners will want to keep an eye on his practice status during the final week of August.

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Thanks, i saw something about him having problems in the past with concussions so they might take it slow with him. Guess I'll start Wiggins, maybe I shouldn't have waited so long for the DEEP TE position this year!!

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And if you type "Clark injury risk" into Google, you get 230,000 hits so it must be true.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Examples from last year of perceptions of Clark being injury-prone:

I am high on Dallas Clark. Most of what I have read coming from Indy has been talking about getting him more involved in the passing game over the offseason. I know they have said this before. However Clark seems to have matured now. And it has been minor injuries holding him back before.

Add in the fact that the TE is the 3rd or 4th (or even 5th) option for Manning after Wayne, Harrison, Stokley and the RB (Rhodes or Addai) and I wouldn't be comfortable starting him.

This also assumes 100% health, which is often a BIG assumption.

This guy isn't under the radar, I think it fell on his head. I've sworn off drafting him because he gets dinged all the time. I think I saw he already had a concussion game one, after getting one in preseason. Add to it that Utech and Fletcher are there, Clark gets in line with 4-5 receivers for a piece of the pie. Clark is consistently over rated in my opinon. Plays for a great team, can make a nice catch, but won't give you steady numbers.

Clark is above average as a TE, but unfortunately he's the tight end position's answer to Dan Morgan: a concussion waiting to happen.

Link

Indianapolis' Dallas Clark suffered a slight concussion during the week 3 pre-season game. The injury is not considered serious as of 8/28/06, although concussions have been known to cause after-effects several days after the initial injury occurs. Clark's owners/potential owners will want to keep an eye on his practice status during the final week of August.

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Thanks, i saw something about him having problems in the past with concussions so they might take it slow with him. Guess I'll start Wiggins, maybe I shouldn't have waited so long for the DEEP TE position this year!!

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And if you type "Clark injury risk" into Google, you get 230,000 hits so it must be true.

1,700,300 on the Google Search for the Loch ness Monster

 

[benm3218]

The Stat: Clark scored just four touchdowns each of the last two seasons and is now one away from his career high of five, established in 2004.

The Quote: "You saw (Denver's) defense try to cover him three different ways,' Manning told the Indianapolis Star. "Who's going to cover him? He was running routes against corners and getting open.'

Fantasy Analysis: With Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne hogging all the looks the last four seasons, Clark managed to average just 2.3 catches per game with his yards per contest ranging between 28.2 and 34.0 since his rookie campaign. The 14 touchdowns he scored in those 52 games were nice, but certainly not enough to use Clark as anything more than a bye-week or injury fill-in. Even then, fantasy owners had to keep their fingers crossed that they gambled on the right week, as Clark could easily provide a donut in the fantasy points column.

But things are different for Clark this season. He's averaging nearly five catches per game and 62.8 yards to go with his four touchdowns. While it certainly comes as a surprise, it doesn't come completely out of left field. Many fantasy owners expected rookie Anthony Gonzalez to provide a valuable weapon out of the slot this season and produce fantasy points. Clark has simply usurped that role. Manning himself stated that Clark finds ways to get open, and he's been used all over the field already this season.

Fantasy owners do need to consider that Clark still has yet to play a full season and that he's currently churning out more yards per game than Harrison while leading the team in receiving scores, so his pace is likely to slow as Wayne and Marv impose their will on opposing quarterbacks. But if Clark is going to keep getting this many looks, he'll at least remain an every-week fantasy starter – which is much more than many hoped for entering this season.