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Danario Alexander - Lottery ticket? (1 Viewer)

I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
:confused: what's your point here? That roster isn't unfathomable in dynasty. 1/2/3/1 is a pretty common lineup. I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Steelers) for him (vs. Panthers) next week. Week 16 if we make it there will be very tough. One of DA (Jets, SNF), VJax (Rams), Witten (Saints), or Gonzo (Lions, Saturday night) will have to be on the bench.
My post was tongue in cheek, but the point was to join a league where you start more than 4 combined RB and WR position players; a lineup that small is subject to incredible variance making the league pretty silly. I've done my best to avoid all the assistant coach posts in this thread, and for whatever reason there are a tonne of them in here, but the prospect of benching Danario for either Witten or Gonzo is absurd imo.
We get more PPR for TE than WR. Witten was a safer play and Gonzo is scoring equal to a top 10 WR. and over the past 5 weeks up to last yesterday, both have outscored DA more often than not.
 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
:confused: what's your point here? That roster isn't unfathomable in dynasty. 1/2/3/1 is a pretty common lineup. I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Steelers) for him (vs. Panthers) next week. Week 16 if we make it there will be very tough. One of DA (Jets, SNF), VJax (Rams), Witten (Saints), or Gonzo (Lions, Saturday night) will have to be on the bench.
My post was tongue in cheek, but the point was to join a league where you start more than 4 combined RB and WR position players; a lineup that small is subject to incredible variance making the league pretty silly. I've done my best to avoid all the assistant coach posts in this thread, and for whatever reason there are a tonne of them in here, but the prospect of benching Danario for either Witten or Gonzo is absurd imo.
We get more PPR for TE than WR. Witten was a safer play and Gonzo is scoring equal to a top 10 WR. and over the past 5 weeks up to last yesterday, both have outscored DA more often than not.
Danario is #3 in WR scoring the past 5 weeks, and has over 150 more yards and 5 TDs more than Witten over that time frame. If Witten has scored more fantasy points than Danario in your league over the past 5 weeks, then your leagues scoring is pretty messed up, in my opinion.
 
I've had him since his first break-out week...haven't started him once. ...Because my WR's are B. Marshall, Dez, and Demaryius Thomas. :thumbup: If only I could've traded one of those guys before the deadline for an RB worth anything. That said, I'm glad to have him because our stupid league plays week 17 finals (despite heavy complaints), and I imagine Marshall and DT will have the week off.
I've gotta laugh at my own dumb self...I jinxed Dez. Looks like if he's out for the year I'm going to be starting D Alexander A LOT. :wall:
 
Looks like I got away with not starting him this time but this will serve as a lesson from this point forward.
Yep. Me too.Benched him for...Cruz - no worriesWallace - no worriesBallard - not great, but didn't kill meDwyer :wall: But I should survive, and DX is never leaving my lineup again.
 
I want to start the guy but the prospects of benching one of Green/Julio/Cobb makes me nervous. I guess I should trust the guy by now.

 
I want to start the guy but the prospects of benching one of Green/Julio/Cobb makes me nervous. I guess I should trust the guy by now.
I'd have the hardest time benching Cobb.I made moves for him, and had other good options earlier this year, i had Wallace, Bowe, and others and now have Cobb, Crabtree , DX and Steve Smith.We get points for pr/kr yds. If PPR Cobb/Green
 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
That league has a $32 million salary cap, player contracts, signing bonuses, option years, franchise and transition tags, draft pick compensation, Home Field Advantage, has been in existence since the year 2000 with most of the core guys intact from that first year. There are 10 teams and 22 man rosters with an IR slot. It's an auction league with a rookie draft.I had the 2nd and 3rd overall picks last year and took both AJ Green and Julio Jones to go along with Marshall. I traded for Lynch at the trade deadline and was able to keep ADP because of injury concerns, nobody offered him much of a contract on FA night so I was able to match and not wreck my cap. Lynch is up at the end of the year, so the owner who was out of the playoff hunt was willing to part with him for a player and a first rounder. I may not be able to keep him as his asking price will be huge and I'm up against the cap next year, so I basically rented him for a few games. To make a trade in my league I need a lawyer, team of accountants and an abacus. I also have RGIII, Peyton Manning, Bradshaw and Wilson, DX, and Heath Miller. Oh, and I squeaked into the playoffs this week.Wanna share your badass league with the board?
 
'Time Kibitzer said:
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
:confused: what's your point here? That roster isn't unfathomable in dynasty. 1/2/3/1 is a pretty common lineup. I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Steelers) for him (vs. Panthers) next week. Week 16 if we make it there will be very tough. One of DA (Jets, SNF), VJax (Rams), Witten (Saints), or Gonzo (Lions, Saturday night) will have to be on the bench.
My post was tongue in cheek, but the point was to join a league where you start more than 4 combined RB and WR position players; a lineup that small is subject to incredible variance making the league pretty silly. I've done my best to avoid all the assistant coach posts in this thread, and for whatever reason there are a tonne of them in here, but the prospect of benching Danario for either Witten or Gonzo is absurd imo.
We get more PPR for TE than WR. Witten was a safer play and Gonzo is scoring equal to a top 10 WR. and over the past 5 weeks up to last yesterday, both have outscored DA more often than not.
Danario is #3 in WR scoring the past 5 weeks, and has over 150 more yards and 5 TDs more than Witten over that time frame. If Witten has scored more fantasy points than Danario in your league over the past 5 weeks, then your leagues scoring is pretty messed up, in my opinion.
I was looking at the stats from the last 5 weeks too. I'm seriously considering benching AJ Green for this guy. But then if Cutler is injured, I would go with AJ Green and DX and would be happy with "having" to get DX in the lineup that way. What really sucks is AJ playing on Thursday. Not sure if I can resist starting that guy on the prime time stage...
 
I made a 12:55 swap from DX to TY Hilton. I just felt Luck to TY was going to have a huge day. What a terrible mistake and a stupid thing to do. It is likely going to be the move that eliminates me from the playoffs.

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I rode him to the playoffs, than benched him.

:bag:
I also benched him for Hilton! Who could see Rivers having a good game? That was his best game of the year. I'll probably win this week due to the browns def but very annoying to make the wrong choice. :ph34r:
Honestly, it wasn't as much Rivers great game as the putrid play of Roethlisberger/Steelers O. It may not look that way in the final box score, but they repeatedly did nothing on O and the Chargers got great field position. I think the Steelers D got a bit worn out because they were out there so much and backed up against the wall. The Chargers were up 27-3 until 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. In the Steelers 1st half, the only drive that got anything was right at halftime where they kicked a FG with no time left in the half. The other drives totalled 56 yards. 6 of those 7 awful drives were 3 and out or 4 and out. The Chargers scored 13 in the first half, but started 4 of 7 drives in Pitt territory and really only had one good drive, but even then 39 of the 48 yards were on the one TD pass. The longest other drive was a 12 play 36 yard drive to kick a 51 yard FG.Danario was great, but I think if the Steeler O did anything in the first half, he may not have had a great game. DX's second TD was because SD started that drive on the Pitt 17. Anyway, not trying to rain on any parades. I had a chance to pick him up in a couple leagues and waited one game too long, but I just wanted to give out some info just so you know that he manhandled Pitt with quite a bit of help from Roethlisberger.
I'm confused. So Danario didn't make two great plays that resulted TDs? What am I reading here?
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.

 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
That league has a $32 million salary cap, player contracts, signing bonuses, option years, franchise and transition tags, draft pick compensation, Home Field Advantage, has been in existence since the year 2000 with most of the core guys intact from that first year. There are 10 teams and 22 man rosters with an IR slot. It's an auction league with a rookie draft.I had the 2nd and 3rd overall picks last year and took both AJ Green and Julio Jones to go along with Marshall. I traded for Lynch at the trade deadline and was able to keep ADP because of injury concerns, nobody offered him much of a contract on FA night so I was able to match and not wreck my cap. Lynch is up at the end of the year, so the owner who was out of the playoff hunt was willing to part with him for a player and a first rounder. I may not be able to keep him as his asking price will be huge and I'm up against the cap next year, so I basically rented him for a few games. To make a trade in my league I need a lawyer, team of accountants and an abacus. I also have RGIII, Peyton Manning, Bradshaw and Wilson, DX, and Heath Miller. Oh, and I squeaked into the playoffs this week.Wanna share your badass league with the board?
No, because I can't imagine why anyone would give a ####. but I'll say that like most leagues that have started after 1990 it has a flex position spot.
 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
That league has a $32 million salary cap, player contracts, signing bonuses, option years, franchise and transition tags, draft pick compensation, Home Field Advantage, has been in existence since the year 2000 with most of the core guys intact from that first year. There are 10 teams and 22 man rosters with an IR slot. It's an auction league with a rookie draft.I had the 2nd and 3rd overall picks last year and took both AJ Green and Julio Jones to go along with Marshall. I traded for Lynch at the trade deadline and was able to keep ADP because of injury concerns, nobody offered him much of a contract on FA night so I was able to match and not wreck my cap. Lynch is up at the end of the year, so the owner who was out of the playoff hunt was willing to part with him for a player and a first rounder. I may not be able to keep him as his asking price will be huge and I'm up against the cap next year, so I basically rented him for a few games. To make a trade in my league I need a lawyer, team of accountants and an abacus. I also have RGIII, Peyton Manning, Bradshaw and Wilson, DX, and Heath Miller. Oh, and I squeaked into the playoffs this week.Wanna share your badass league with the board?
No, because I can't imagine why anyone would give a ####. but I'll say that like most leagues that have started after 1990 it has a flex position spot.
I play in 3 leagues, all of them started after '90. Only 1 of them have a flex. And my main league is very much like the one Fanatic described.
 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
That league has a $32 million salary cap, player contracts, signing bonuses, option years, franchise and transition tags, draft pick compensation, Home Field Advantage, has been in existence since the year 2000 with most of the core guys intact from that first year. There are 10 teams and 22 man rosters with an IR slot. It's an auction league with a rookie draft.I had the 2nd and 3rd overall picks last year and took both AJ Green and Julio Jones to go along with Marshall. I traded for Lynch at the trade deadline and was able to keep ADP because of injury concerns, nobody offered him much of a contract on FA night so I was able to match and not wreck my cap. Lynch is up at the end of the year, so the owner who was out of the playoff hunt was willing to part with him for a player and a first rounder. I may not be able to keep him as his asking price will be huge and I'm up against the cap next year, so I basically rented him for a few games. To make a trade in my league I need a lawyer, team of accountants and an abacus. I also have RGIII, Peyton Manning, Bradshaw and Wilson, DX, and Heath Miller. Oh, and I squeaked into the playoffs this week.Wanna share your badass league with the board?
No, because I can't imagine why anyone would give a ####. but I'll say that like most leagues that have started after 1990 it has a flex position spot.
I play in 3 leagues, all of them started after '90. Only 1 of them have a flex. And my main league is very much like the one Fanatic described.
This is getting very off-topic, but you guys need to get with the times and realize that the larger the starting lineup the less luck affects game outcomes.
 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
That league has a $32 million salary cap, player contracts, signing bonuses, option years, franchise and transition tags, draft pick compensation, Home Field Advantage, has been in existence since the year 2000 with most of the core guys intact from that first year. There are 10 teams and 22 man rosters with an IR slot. It's an auction league with a rookie draft.I had the 2nd and 3rd overall picks last year and took both AJ Green and Julio Jones to go along with Marshall. I traded for Lynch at the trade deadline and was able to keep ADP because of injury concerns, nobody offered him much of a contract on FA night so I was able to match and not wreck my cap. Lynch is up at the end of the year, so the owner who was out of the playoff hunt was willing to part with him for a player and a first rounder. I may not be able to keep him as his asking price will be huge and I'm up against the cap next year, so I basically rented him for a few games. To make a trade in my league I need a lawyer, team of accountants and an abacus. I also have RGIII, Peyton Manning, Bradshaw and Wilson, DX, and Heath Miller. Oh, and I squeaked into the playoffs this week.Wanna share your badass league with the board?
No, because I can't imagine why anyone would give a ####. but I'll say that like most leagues that have started after 1990 it has a flex position spot.
I play in 3 leagues, all of them started after '90. Only 1 of them have a flex. And my main league is very much like the one Fanatic described.
This is getting very off-topic, but you guys need to get with the times and realize that the larger the starting lineup the less luck affects game outcomes.
We're pretty happy with our league, but thanks for the suggestion :thumbup:
 
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall? Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
That league has a $32 million salary cap, player contracts, signing bonuses, option years, franchise and transition tags, draft pick compensation, Home Field Advantage, has been in existence since the year 2000 with most of the core guys intact from that first year. There are 10 teams and 22 man rosters with an IR slot. It's an auction league with a rookie draft.I had the 2nd and 3rd overall picks last year and took both AJ Green and Julio Jones to go along with Marshall. I traded for Lynch at the trade deadline and was able to keep ADP because of injury concerns, nobody offered him much of a contract on FA night so I was able to match and not wreck my cap. Lynch is up at the end of the year, so the owner who was out of the playoff hunt was willing to part with him for a player and a first rounder. I may not be able to keep him as his asking price will be huge and I'm up against the cap next year, so I basically rented him for a few games. To make a trade in my league I need a lawyer, team of accountants and an abacus. I also have RGIII, Peyton Manning, Bradshaw and Wilson, DX, and Heath Miller. Oh, and I squeaked into the playoffs this week.Wanna share your badass league with the board?
No, because I can't imagine why anyone would give a ####. but I'll say that like most leagues that have started after 1990 it has a flex position spot.
We actually just voted to add the flex spot in 2013. Right now we start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, K, D/ST. Fairly standard on that front, nothing crazy, but the rest of the rules are pretty rough. Making trades and moving money to get things done makes it so much more complicated than just swapping a couple guys.
 
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
 
So after reading this, DX can only be started if you have a flex position? Man, this is why I love this board - such insight.

 
I made a 12:55 swap from DX to TY Hilton. I just felt Luck to TY was going to have a huge day. What a terrible mistake and a stupid thing to do. It is likely going to be the move that eliminates me from the playoffs.

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

I rode him to the playoffs, than benched him.

:bag:
I also benched him for Hilton! Who could see Rivers having a good game? That was his best game of the year. I'll probably win this week due to the browns def but very annoying to make the wrong choice. :ph34r:
Honestly, it wasn't as much Rivers great game as the putrid play of Roethlisberger/Steelers O. It may not look that way in the final box score, but they repeatedly did nothing on O and the Chargers got great field position. I think the Steelers D got a bit worn out because they were out there so much and backed up against the wall. The Chargers were up 27-3 until 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. In the Steelers 1st half, the only drive that got anything was right at halftime where they kicked a FG with no time left in the half. The other drives totalled 56 yards. 6 of those 7 awful drives were 3 and out or 4 and out. The Chargers scored 13 in the first half, but started 4 of 7 drives in Pitt territory and really only had one good drive, but even then 39 of the 48 yards were on the one TD pass. The longest other drive was a 12 play 36 yard drive to kick a 51 yard FG.Danario was great, but I think if the Steeler O did anything in the first half, he may not have had a great game. DX's second TD was because SD started that drive on the Pitt 17. Anyway, not trying to rain on any parades. I had a chance to pick him up in a couple leagues and waited one game too long, but I just wanted to give out some info just so you know that he manhandled Pitt with quite a bit of help from Roethlisberger.
I'm confused. So Danario didn't make two great plays that resulted TDs? What am I reading here?
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
:goodposting: Absolutely agree. This forum used to be about sharing insightful opinions in a friendly manner now it's about Internet tough guy trying to one up next internet tough guy. Sad.
 
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'Time Kibitzer said:
I left him on my bench for aj green and marshall. How can I bench green or Marshall?

Besides, having Lynch and ADP saved my butt....
Join a league where you start more than 5 players.
:confused: what's your point here? That roster isn't unfathomable in dynasty. 1/2/3/1 is a pretty common lineup. I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Steelers) for him (vs. Panthers) next week. Week 16 if we make it there will be very tough. One of DA (Jets, SNF), VJax (Rams), Witten (Saints), or Gonzo (Lions, Saturday night) will have to be on the bench.
My post was tongue in cheek, but the point was to join a league where you start more than 4 combined RB and WR position players; a lineup that small is subject to incredible variance making the league pretty silly. I've done my best to avoid all the assistant coach posts in this thread, and for whatever reason there are a tonne of them in here, but the prospect of benching Danario for either Witten or Gonzo is absurd imo.
We get more PPR for TE than WR. Witten was a safer play and Gonzo is scoring equal to a top 10 WR. and over the past 5 weeks up to last yesterday, both have outscored DA more often than not.
Danario is #3 in WR scoring the past 5 weeks, and has over 150 more yards and 5 TDs more than Witten over that time frame. If Witten has scored more fantasy points than Danario in your league over the past 5 weeks, then your leagues scoring is pretty messed up, in my opinion.
We're off-topic, but that's not what I wrote. Witten outscored DX in weeks 9, 12 and 13. That's 3 out of the 5 weeks before last week. Gonzo is the top TE, equal to a top 10 WR, can't bench him. I am benching Witten this week although I expect a big game.

 
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'stbugs said:
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
So does misunderstanding the point. Man, people really can't take any kind of "hit" on their blessed players. As a DX owner that just read the box score, I would want to know that both drives he scored on started in Pitt territory and that the Big Ben lead Steeler's O was so god awful that the Chargers had amazing field position. I don't know DX's remainding schedule and I believe he is a solid player, but I just thought some notes on the game might help people make decisions if they are planning to sit Cruz or any other top WR. Not sure my logic isn't sound. If Big Ben plays just a bit better, maybe DX doesn't have any TDs because SD starts those two drives at their 20 yard line instead of Pitt's 48 and 17. Maybe he is matchup proof, just letting people know because I saw the futility that was the Pittsburgh offense until a few minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
 
'CentralPA said:
'stbugs said:
I made a 12:55 swap from DX to TY Hilton. I just felt Luck to TY was going to have a huge day. What a terrible mistake and a stupid thing to do. It is likely going to be the move that eliminates me from the playoffs.

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

I rode him to the playoffs, than benched him.

:bag:
I also benched him for Hilton! Who could see Rivers having a good game? That was his best game of the year. I'll probably win this week due to the browns def but very annoying to make the wrong choice. :ph34r:
Honestly, it wasn't as much Rivers great game as the putrid play of Roethlisberger/Steelers O. It may not look that way in the final box score, but they repeatedly did nothing on O and the Chargers got great field position. I think the Steelers D got a bit worn out because they were out there so much and backed up against the wall. The Chargers were up 27-3 until 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. In the Steelers 1st half, the only drive that got anything was right at halftime where they kicked a FG with no time left in the half. The other drives totalled 56 yards. 6 of those 7 awful drives were 3 and out or 4 and out. The Chargers scored 13 in the first half, but started 4 of 7 drives in Pitt territory and really only had one good drive, but even then 39 of the 48 yards were on the one TD pass. The longest other drive was a 12 play 36 yard drive to kick a 51 yard FG.Danario was great, but I think if the Steeler O did anything in the first half, he may not have had a great game. DX's second TD was because SD started that drive on the Pitt 17. Anyway, not trying to rain on any parades. I had a chance to pick him up in a couple leagues and waited one game too long, but I just wanted to give out some info just so you know that he manhandled Pitt with quite a bit of help from Roethlisberger.
I'm confused. So Danario didn't make two great plays that resulted TDs? What am I reading here?
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
:goodposting: Absolutely agree. This forum used to be about sharing insightful opinions in a friendly manner now it's about Internet tough guy trying to one up next internet tough guy. Sad.
You all need hugs. So sensitive.Sorry if I overreacted to your message. It just seemed like you were downgrading him as if the two touchdowns had more to do with other factors than it did with. Not many receivers could have made that second catch. That's gotta do something for his fantasy prospect going forward (which is why most of us are here), right? No one's coming here saying he's good for 20+ points a game. So who cares about the reasons he scored his TDs? We got the points, so we're good, and hopefully moving on to Week 15. Now if he had 3 catches for 30 yards and two TDs (James Jones esque) in those circumstances, then maybe you have a point.

You were responding to a post about Phillip Rivers having a great game, and then somehow used that to diminish Danario. He still had to make two great plays. Even without one of the TDs, it's still 14 points. Without both of the TDs, it's still 8 points. In the latter case, you would also have to factor (since we're doing what ifs) in the possibility of more yardage due to longer field position and more throwing, since the Chargers wouldn't have built such a big lead without his TDs. So maybe we're talking about a 100+ yard game with potential for a TD on a long drive. He had 100+ yards with no TD against a lesser defense and people were STILL coming here saying he's a beast, so nothing would have changed in that regard. Also, did you know that one of Danario's touchdowns happened right after the Chargers offense got off the field? (works both ways).

Danario puts up these numbers in a Chargers blowout (over the Steelers), it's because Pittsburgh had a bad game. Danario put up these numbers in a Steelers blowout (over the Chargers) it would be because of garbage time. What difference does it really make?

 
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'cvnpoka said:
'stbugs said:
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
So does misunderstanding the point. Man, people really can't take any kind of "hit" on their blessed players. As a DX owner that just read the box score, I would want to know that both drives he scored on started in Pitt territory and that the Big Ben lead Steeler's O was so god awful that the Chargers had amazing field position. I don't know DX's remainding schedule and I believe he is a solid player, but I just thought some notes on the game might help people make decisions if they are planning to sit Cruz or any other top WR. Not sure my logic isn't sound. If Big Ben plays just a bit better, maybe DX doesn't have any TDs because SD starts those two drives at their 20 yard line instead of Pitt's 48 and 17. Maybe he is matchup proof, just letting people know because I saw the futility that was the Pittsburgh offense until a few minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
While you can point out where the drives started for whatever reason, you can't overlook that it was DX who ACTUALLY caught 2 TD passes-Not Floyd-Not Gates. Nor did Mathews run them in. DX is the threat on SD.
 
'cvnpoka said:
'stbugs said:
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
So does misunderstanding the point. Man, people really can't take any kind of "hit" on their blessed players. As a DX owner that just read the box score, I would want to know that both drives he scored on started in Pitt territory and that the Big Ben lead Steeler's O was so god awful that the Chargers had amazing field position. I don't know DX's remainding schedule and I believe he is a solid player, but I just thought some notes on the game might help people make decisions if they are planning to sit Cruz or any other top WR. Not sure my logic isn't sound. If Big Ben plays just a bit better, maybe DX doesn't have any TDs because SD starts those two drives at their 20 yard line instead of Pitt's 48 and 17. Maybe he is matchup proof, just letting people know because I saw the futility that was the Pittsburgh offense until a few minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
While you can point out where the drives started for whatever reason, you can't overlook that it was DX who ACTUALLY caught 2 TD passes-Not Floyd-Not Gates. Nor did Mathews run them in. DX is the threat on SD.
Understood, again I said he was great and even mentioned that I should have picked him up when I had the chance. I just thought it would be good to let you DX owners know that the Pitt O was so bad that SD in the first half was basically working with half the field. I never tried to slight DX in the least and called him great. Simple as that. If you don't care that his two TDs came on drives where they only had another 11 yards combined, that's fine. If I owned him I would be interested to know that.Let's put it this way, he plays the Panthers and Jets next. Two decent pass defenses. If Cam keeps driving like he has been, SD is going to be playing with longer fields and that could limit DX's TD chances. The Jets, well, they suck, but if the run like last week, maybe something similar. Again, if you don't care that is cool, but if you don't think Pitt's futility on O helped DX's chances to score then you and I disagree.
 
'CentralPA said:
'stbugs said:
I made a 12:55 swap from DX to TY Hilton. I just felt Luck to TY was going to have a huge day. What a terrible mistake and a stupid thing to do. It is likely going to be the move that eliminates me from the playoffs.

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I rode him to the playoffs, than benched him.

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I also benched him for Hilton! Who could see Rivers having a good game? That was his best game of the year. I'll probably win this week due to the browns def but very annoying to make the wrong choice. :ph34r:
Honestly, it wasn't as much Rivers great game as the putrid play of Roethlisberger/Steelers O. It may not look that way in the final box score, but they repeatedly did nothing on O and the Chargers got great field position. I think the Steelers D got a bit worn out because they were out there so much and backed up against the wall. The Chargers were up 27-3 until 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. In the Steelers 1st half, the only drive that got anything was right at halftime where they kicked a FG with no time left in the half. The other drives totalled 56 yards. 6 of those 7 awful drives were 3 and out or 4 and out. The Chargers scored 13 in the first half, but started 4 of 7 drives in Pitt territory and really only had one good drive, but even then 39 of the 48 yards were on the one TD pass. The longest other drive was a 12 play 36 yard drive to kick a 51 yard FG.Danario was great, but I think if the Steeler O did anything in the first half, he may not have had a great game. DX's second TD was because SD started that drive on the Pitt 17. Anyway, not trying to rain on any parades. I had a chance to pick him up in a couple leagues and waited one game too long, but I just wanted to give out some info just so you know that he manhandled Pitt with quite a bit of help from Roethlisberger.
I'm confused. So Danario didn't make two great plays that resulted TDs? What am I reading here?
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
:goodposting: Absolutely agree. This forum used to be about sharing insightful opinions in a friendly manner now it's about Internet tough guy trying to one up next internet tough guy. Sad.
You all need hugs. So sensitive.Sorry if I overreacted to your message. It just seemed like you were downgrading him as if the two touchdowns had more to do with other factors than it did with. Not many receivers could have made that second catch. That's gotta do something for his fantasy prospect going forward (which is why most of us are here), right? No one's coming here saying he's good for 20+ points a game. So who cares about the reasons he scored his TDs? We got the points, so we're good, and hopefully moving on to Week 15. Now if he had 3 catches for 30 yards and two TDs (James Jones esque) in those circumstances, then maybe you have a point.

You were responding to a post about Phillip Rivers having a great game, and then somehow used that to diminish Danario. He still had to make two great plays. Even without one of the TDs, it's still 14 points. Without both of the TDs, it's still 8 points. In the latter case, you would also have to factor (since we're doing what ifs) in the possibility of more yardage due to longer field position and more throwing, since the Chargers wouldn't have built such a big lead without his TDs. So maybe we're talking about a 100+ yard game with potential for a TD on a long drive. He had 100+ yards with no TD against a lesser defense and people were STILL coming here saying he's a beast, so nothing would have changed in that regard. Also, did you know that one of Danario's touchdowns happened right after the Chargers offense got off the field? (works both ways).

Danario puts up these numbers in a Chargers blowout (over the Steelers), it's because Pittsburgh had a bad game. Danario put up these numbers in a Steelers blowout (over the Chargers) it would be because of garbage time. What difference does it really make?
Hey, no problem, maybe I was too down on the Steelers because I played their D as well. Luckily, didn't matter, still made it to the next round, but watching their D repeatedly play half the field made me want to post about it. That said, that was my soap box. You assume that I am criticizing him or downgrading him, which was not my intent. My intent was to dispell the myth (IMHO) that Rivers turned the corner and played like the Rivers of old and to state that Pitt's O was so bad they killed any chance their D had of having a good game.
 
'cvnpoka said:
'stbugs said:
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.

Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
So does misunderstanding the point. Man, people really can't take any kind of "hit" on their blessed players. As a DX owner that just read the box score, I would want to know that both drives he scored on started in Pitt territory and that the Big Ben lead Steeler's O was so god awful that the Chargers had amazing field position. I don't know DX's remainding schedule and I believe he is a solid player, but I just thought some notes on the game might help people make decisions if they are planning to sit Cruz or any other top WR. Not sure my logic isn't sound. If Big Ben plays just a bit better, maybe DX doesn't have any TDs because SD starts those two drives at their 20 yard line instead of Pitt's 48 and 17. Maybe he is matchup proof, just letting people know because I saw the futility that was the Pittsburgh offense until a few minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
While you can point out where the drives started for whatever reason, you can't overlook that it was DX who ACTUALLY caught 2 TD passes-Not Floyd-Not Gates. Nor did Mathews run them in. DX is the threat on SD.
Understood, again I said he was great and even mentioned that I should have picked him up when I had the chance. I just thought it would be good to let you DX owners know that the Pitt O was so bad that SD in the first half was basically working with half the field. I never tried to slight DX in the least and called him great. Simple as that. If you don't care that his two TDs came on drives where they only had another 11 yards combined, that's fine. If I owned him I would be interested to know that.Let's put it this way, he plays the Panthers and Jets next. Two decent pass defenses. If Cam keeps driving like he has been, SD is going to be playing with longer fields and that could limit DX's TD chances. The Jets, well, they suck, but if the run like last week, maybe something similar. Again, if you don't care that is cool, but if you don't think Pitt's futility on O helped DX's chances to score then you and I disagree.
Fair enough. I think all of this was understood with or without the Pittsburgh game. Not to mention Cromartie will probably be on Alexander Week 16.I will end with one thing though. He caught a 40 yard TD and you're crediting that to the Steelers "futility on O"?! I'll give you the 15-yard TD (even though it was an amazing catch, and the poster above already stated that you can't overlook the fact that it was DX that caught them and not someone else), but I think you're reaching for straws here. Did you assume the Steelers would hold the Chargers in their own half all game or something?

Whether or not it's the case (since you brought it up), I think the fact that you picked up the Steelers (for what seemed like a good matchup) and missed out on Alexander might be influencing your opinion on the matter.

 
'cvnpoka said:
'stbugs said:
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
So does misunderstanding the point. Man, people really can't take any kind of "hit" on their blessed players. As a DX owner that just read the box score, I would want to know that both drives he scored on started in Pitt territory and that the Big Ben lead Steeler's O was so god awful that the Chargers had amazing field position. I don't know DX's remainding schedule and I believe he is a solid player, but I just thought some notes on the game might help people make decisions if they are planning to sit Cruz or any other top WR. Not sure my logic isn't sound. If Big Ben plays just a bit better, maybe DX doesn't have any TDs because SD starts those two drives at their 20 yard line instead of Pitt's 48 and 17. Maybe he is matchup proof, just letting people know because I saw the futility that was the Pittsburgh offense until a few minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
While you can point out where the drives started for whatever reason, you can't overlook that it was DX who ACTUALLY caught 2 TD passes-Not Floyd-Not Gates. Nor did Mathews run them in. DX is the threat on SD.
Understood, again I said he was great and even mentioned that I should have picked him up when I had the chance. I just thought it would be good to let you DX owners know that the Pitt O was so bad that SD in the first half was basically working with half the field. I never tried to slight DX in the least and called him great. Simple as that. If you don't care that his two TDs came on drives where they only had another 11 yards combined, that's fine. If I owned him I would be interested to know that.Let's put it this way, he plays the Panthers and Jets next. Two decent pass defenses. If Cam keeps driving like he has been, SD is going to be playing with longer fields and that could limit DX's TD chances. The Jets, well, they suck, but if the run like last week, maybe something similar. Again, if you don't care that is cool, but if you don't think Pitt's futility on O helped DX's chances to score then you and I disagree.
It's just that all that stuff is irrelevant, particularly when dealing with great WRs. Sometimes teams force turnovers, sometimes they don't, sometimes teams have good field position, sometimes they don't, sometimes a team's QB plays dreadfully, sometimes he doesn't; all WRs deal with that stuff. If a WR is very good, like Danario is, none of that stuff really matters; he'll put up good numbers nearly every week, just like he has in the past 5 weeks in all sorts of different situations. The only way an external factor would cause me to worry about a great WR is if he has a NCAA caliber QB throwing him the ball like Larry Fitzgerald has, but obviously Rivers is nowhere near that terrible.
 
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DX is like some of the explosive RBs - he can make his day on 1 big play because of his combination of size and speed. Makes him startable against good defenses because he just needs 1 big completion and the rest of his production is gravy. Hoping he stays hot for 2 more weeks as he's been one of the few difference making waiver wire pickups this year.

 
I want to start the guy but the prospects of benching one of Green/Julio/Cobb makes me nervous. I guess I should trust the guy by now.
Looking at the numbers since he started playing, he should play before all of them. He racks up targets, yards, TDs. Guess Julio gets to ride the pine.
 
Deciding between Moreno and DX in the flex. According to the early rankings, Moreno should be the play, although I'm struggling with the decision due to the amount of touches Moreno accumulates.

 
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I had a claim in on DX weeks ago right before he took off but ended up pulling it because I already had D. Thomas, Dez, Cobb and Cecil Shorts. Even if DX played well, I was not going to need him anyways. :hot: Now Dez and Shorts might be out and Cobb is playing the Bears. Lesson learned. Even if you do not think you need a guy, pick him up if you think the value is there.

 
Did I ever say he didn't have a great game? In fact my "Danario was great" comment seems to say that. Part of the nice thing about this forum is people trying to give people more info than what is in the box score. Danario score twiced. Did you know that both drives started in Pittsburgh territory and one of them started at the Pitt 17 right after the defense got off the field? I'm just trying to be helpful and paint a whole picture that Pittsburgh's offense was so bad in the first half that they did nothing to help their defense. If this wasn't Roethlisberger's first week back and he plays like he did late in the game, I am not sure that Danario has a fantastic stat line if SD has to drive the length of the field a few times. Just trying to be helpful.

Not to get on a soap box, but this is what is wrong with the forums nowadays. Too much crap that people think you have to be an ### to look cool. I've been on this forum for a while and it sucks when you can't add perspective on a game without sarchastic comments that add nothing to the discussion.
i def agree that sarcastic comments and closeminded rejection hurts this forum badly. so does atrocious logic.
So does misunderstanding the point. Man, people really can't take any kind of "hit" on their blessed players. As a DX owner that just read the box score, I would want to know that both drives he scored on started in Pitt territory and that the Big Ben lead Steeler's O was so god awful that the Chargers had amazing field position. I don't know DX's remainding schedule and I believe he is a solid player, but I just thought some notes on the game might help people make decisions if they are planning to sit Cruz or any other top WR. Not sure my logic isn't sound. If Big Ben plays just a bit better, maybe DX doesn't have any TDs because SD starts those two drives at their 20 yard line instead of Pitt's 48 and 17. Maybe he is matchup proof, just letting people know because I saw the futility that was the Pittsburgh offense until a few minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
While you can point out where the drives started for whatever reason, you can't overlook that it was DX who ACTUALLY caught 2 TD passes-Not Floyd-Not Gates. Nor did Mathews run them in. DX is the threat on SD.
Understood, again I said he was great and even mentioned that I should have picked him up when I had the chance. I just thought it would be good to let you DX owners know that the Pitt O was so bad that SD in the first half was basically working with half the field. I never tried to slight DX in the least and called him great. Simple as that. If you don't care that his two TDs came on drives where they only had another 11 yards combined, that's fine. If I owned him I would be interested to know that.Let's put it this way, he plays the Panthers and Jets next. Two decent pass defenses. If Cam keeps driving like he has been, SD is going to be playing with longer fields and that could limit DX's TD chances. The Jets, well, they suck, but if the run like last week, maybe something similar. Again, if you don't care that is cool, but if you don't think Pitt's futility on O helped DX's chances to score then you and I disagree.
Fair enough. I think all of this was understood with or without the Pittsburgh game. Not to mention Cromartie will probably be on Alexander Week 16.I will end with one thing though. He caught a 40 yard TD and you're crediting that to the Steelers "futility on O"?! I'll give you the 15-yard TD (even though it was an amazing catch, and the poster above already stated that you can't overlook the fact that it was DX that caught them and not someone else), but I think you're reaching for straws here. Did you assume the Steelers would hold the Chargers in their own half all game or something?

Whether or not it's the case (since you brought it up), I think the fact that you picked up the Steelers (for what seemed like a good matchup) and missed out on Alexander might be influencing your opinion on the matter.
You are probably correct on the Steelers influencing the tone of my original post, but not my thoughts on DX. I already posted that I made a mistake not picking him up when I thought about it, but I am not bitter. That league is my best team and with Cruz and Marshall in a start 2 WR, it isn't killing me. Would love to have him, especially since I had Reece (when McFadden out) and Shorts manning my flex with Harvin out and they are not so hot now, but I don't. Even though I know he caught both TDs and he is absolutely the #1 weapon of Rivers, I still would be more worried about him this week and next. Carolina is moving the ball and field position is 100% a determining factor in scoring rate and I thought it would be worth mentioning that even without Ike Taylor, the Steelers O did contribute to the Steelers D's performance. If this was Big Ben's 2nd week back, I don't think SD scores 34 points. Doesn't mean DX isn't for real, but could have meant less scoring opportunities and as a DX owner I would want to know that. Looking at the box score it would seem that Roethlisberger was OK, but he got almost everything in garbage time in the last 17 minutes down by 24.
 
I've had him since the Thursday night game he started. He will be making his first start this week. Having said that, I apologize in advance for his inevitable poor performance. Start him with caution.

 

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