Danny Ware (1 Viewer)

[CaGamblers]

Is Danny Ware a viable option in the RBBC in NY? Ware seems to be a lot more like Ward then Bradshaw - If so, don't you think he should be ranked in the dynasty rankings? Geez there are a lot of scrubs in those rankings where as Danny Ware has a real opportunity to be a part of one of the best RBBC in the league.

Danny Ware | Running Back - 4.55 40yard

TEAM: New York Giants

HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6'0' / 234

DOB: 2/18/1985

AGE: 24

COLLEGE: Georgia

CONTRACT INFO: 2009: Exclusive Rights Free Agent

Ahmad Bradshaw | Running Back - 4.61 40yard

TEAM: New York Giants

HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 5'9' / 198

DOB: 3/19/1986

AGE: 22

COLLEGE: Marshall

CONTRACT INFO: 7/24/2007: Signed a four-year, $1.7 million contract. Details

Derrick Ward | Running Back

TEAM: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 5'11' / 228

DOB: 8/30/1980

AGE: 28

COLLEGE: Ottawa

CONTRACT INFO: 3/2/2009: Signed a four-year, $17 million contract. Details

 

[higgins]

Yeah -- I picked him up at the end of the year hoping Ward would be gone. The Giants have done well picking up RBs on the cheap, and making them successful in their offense.

 

[inzanitee]

Ware is one of my biggest under the radar guys this year. Bradshaw has the opportunity but the Giants really like what they see in Ware, and he could carve out time for himself.

 

[Mikey16x]

Giants Fan/Homer. Coughlin has proved he doesn't play favorites, if you produce... you will see the field. I remember talks when Ward went on IR and Bradshaw played well that Ward was probably going to slump to 3rd on the depth chart, but he outplayed Bradshaw and got his field time. Coughlin doesn't have the man crush all the Giants fan did on Bradshaw... he likes his homerun threat ability but he prefers to grind out the yards and move the chains. Ware can be the new Ward spelling Jacobs on passing/3rd downs. As much as I like Bradshaw and I am a fan, sometimes he looked lost in protection. At this point it might be a foot race between him and Ware to learn how to pick up blocks, winner becomes 2nd on the depth chart.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I'm just amazed at how someone can be a homerun threat when running a 4.61 forty.

Oh, my bad. This isn't the Moreno thread.

 

[Mikey16x]

I never saw anybody run him down from behind, have you?

 

[Two Deep]

Giants Fan/Homer. Coughlin has proved he doesn't play favorites, if you produce... you will see the field. I remember talks when Ward went on IR and Bradshaw played well that Ward was probably going to slump to 3rd on the depth chart, but he outplayed Bradshaw and got his field time. Coughlin doesn't have the man crush all the Giants fan did on Bradshaw... he likes his homerun threat ability but he prefers to grind out the yards and move the chains. Ware can be the new Ward spelling Jacobs on passing/3rd downs. As much as I like Bradshaw and I am a fan, sometimes he looked lost in protection. At this point it might be a foot race between him and Ware to learn how to pick up blocks, winner becomes 2nd on the depth chart.

How did he outplay Bradshaw. Bradshaw was never really given the opprotunity from the onset of 2008. My guess is they used Ward and saved Bradshaw for special teams. In my opinion Bradshaw is a more explosive RB than Ward and hopefully we will find out 2009.

 

[loose circuits]

please keep the chatter about Danny Ware to a minimum. He's still a FA in one of my leagues, and I am considering drafting him in the 4th

 

[BespokeJort]

looking at his stats Ware appears to be both bigger AND faster than Bradshaw, which should bode well...can anyone who's seen him play extensively evaluate his lateral quickness/vision?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He looked great in Jets camp and during preseason two years back. I was not pleased when the Giants plucked him off the Jets practice squad. He's a very smooth runner for his size and Georgia has produced some good NFL backs.

I still think Bradshaw is the better overall runner and should be the Giants' second back but it wouldn't shock me if Ware moves ahead of him. Keep in mind that Jacobs is bound to miss a few games at one point so even if Ware is No. 3 on the depth chart he'll likely get an opportunity to contribute at some point.

 

[Dodge]

Ware looked good in person in preseason games when he got in. Then again... preseason.

He's worth picking up if you have room to stash him on your roster.

 

[Cleat Spike]

I think that is the keyword, "Preseason". Could go either way but I think he faces an uphill battle and won't hit like Ward or Grant did. There's just not much info out there on this guy so some teams are going to have to do their own research and not just trust everyone and draft/add him. It looks like he could lead the charge on the over blown sleeper RBs this year though. Someone will start the "all aboard" thread and guys will begin to draft him on their All-Under the Radar teams, full of guys they think no one else knows about (everyone has one in their league)!

So he's been on 3 teams' practice squads and never really caught on, started only 2 games his final two season at UGA (none his Jr. year), didn't qualify initially and had to go prep. He was 3rd string behind Lumpy and Thomas Brown when they were healthy. Where are Lumpy and Brown now? He showed some good preseason runs but who really knows. We're all just assuming that this cog just falls in line and replaces another cog that just left (when the previous 3rd cog didn't really do much at all in the rotation).

But then you see blurbs like this:

Danny Ware looked real good in the second half. He finished with 97 rushing yards on only 10 carries and added a 59-yard kickoff return. "I have been impressed with Danny Ware right along, right through camp and we will wait to look at the film, but I know he had some really fine runs tonight," Tom Coughlin said.

He is a thick looking RB though so I guess with Ward leaving it's a swing in his direction. Maybe some guys do need to just get there name out there and dump the practice squad-only label?

 

[CaGamblers]

You would have thought that after Bradshaws' nice playoff stats at the end of 07' he would have been the man along side Jacobs in 08', but that wasn't the case. There has to be some reason Coughlin didn't give him every opportunity to succeed in 08'. So now that 09' is starting, it is your guess as good as mine to see who wins the #2RB roll in NY - I know one thing it definitely isn't a given.

 

[PitbullTD]

I really hope Ware catches on....I just traded Jerod Mayo for Ware and a 09 4th. Im studded out at LB but I REALLY need him or P Thomas or L Washington to jump on this year....heres to hoping and praying...

 

[JamesTheScot]

I never saw anybody run him down from behind, have you?

I was being sarcastic about the notion that Moreno is slow, and thus over-rated, based upon his pedestrian 40 time.The consensus is that a RB posting a 4.6 something 40 is slow and lacks the ability to break off the long one. An assertion with which I don't agree and I offer A.Bradshaw as exhibit B (Westbrook being Exhibit A).

 

[Mikey16x]

I never saw anybody run him down from behind, have you?

I was being sarcastic about the notion that Moreno is slow, and thus over-rated, based upon his pedestrian 40 time.The consensus is that a RB posting a 4.6 something 40 is slow and lacks the ability to break off the long one. An assertion with which I don't agree and I offer A.Bradshaw as exhibit B (Westbrook being Exhibit A).

ahhh my apologies, sarcasm is often lost over the internet. I agree with that as well, I think the 40-yard dash is the most overrated tool when scouting. There have been many greats that have ran mediocre 40's and excelled in the NFL i.e Jerry Rice

 

[mightyeskimo]

One of those players I was really hoping would pan out in the NFL. Watched his first game as a freshman against Georgia Southern and was thrilled. Also ran well against LSU, Florida and Vandy that year. However, it just went downhill after that. Real longshot now.

 

[Tybeeman]

One of those players I was really hoping would pan out in the NFL. Watched his first game as a freshman against Georgia Southern and was thrilled. Also ran well against LSU, Florida and Vandy that year. However, it just went downhill after that. Real longshot now.

I agree. He looked like a real good player while at UGA. My guess is he'll compete for time with Bradshaw. He still hold value as Jacobs does have the tendency to get dinged up.

 

[az_prof]

I'm just amazed at how someone can be a homerun threat when running a 4.61 forty.Oh, my bad. This isn't the Moreno thread.

There is football speed and then there is timed speed in an ideal situation, without pads, on a track.Bradshaw has homerun ability. He also runs alot bigger than his size--arm tackles don't bring him down. Anything can happen but I will be surprised if Bradshaw doesn't take over Ward's role, and some. He can catch and run after the catch, which makes him a good complement to Brandon Jacobs.

 

[Mikey16x]

I'm just amazed at how someone can be a homerun threat when running a 4.61 forty.Oh, my bad. This isn't the Moreno thread.

There is football speed and then there is timed speed in an ideal situation, without pads, on a track.Bradshaw has homerun ability. He also runs alot bigger than his size--arm tackles don't bring him down. Anything can happen but I will be surprised if Bradshaw doesn't take over Ward's role, and some. He can catch and run after the catch, which makes him a good complement to Brandon Jacobs.

I see a lot of the same in him. I was very surprised with more field time how scrappy he was. He has very deceptive power, he will muscle you for a few extra yards and can catch. Personally, I think he can be a 1000 yard rusher in full-time duty, the only question is if he can actually handle 25+ touches a game.

 

[identikit]

I'm just amazed at how someone can be a homerun threat when running a 4.61 forty.

Oh, my bad. This isn't the Moreno thread.

There is football speed and then there is timed speed in an ideal situation, without pads, on a track.Bradshaw has homerun ability. He also runs alot bigger than his size--arm tackles don't bring him down. Anything can happen but I will be surprised if Bradshaw doesn't take over Ward's role, and some. He can catch and run after the catch, which makes him a good complement to Brandon Jacobs.

I see a lot of the same in him. I was very surprised with more field time how scrappy he was. He has very deceptive power, he will muscle you for a few extra yards and can catch. Personally, I think he can be a 1000 yard rusher in full-time duty, the only question is if he can actually handle 25+ touches a game.

Who's he? Ware? Bradshaw? Moreno?

 

[Mikey16x]

I'm just amazed at how someone can be a homerun threat when running a 4.61 forty.

Oh, my bad. This isn't the Moreno thread.

There is football speed and then there is timed speed in an ideal situation, without pads, on a track.Bradshaw has homerun ability. He also runs alot bigger than his size--arm tackles don't bring him down. Anything can happen but I will be surprised if Bradshaw doesn't take over Ward's role, and some. He can catch and run after the catch, which makes him a good complement to Brandon Jacobs.

I see a lot of the same in him. I was very surprised with more field time how scrappy he was. He has very deceptive power, he will muscle you for a few extra yards and can catch. Personally, I think he can be a 1000 yard rusher in full-time duty, the only question is if he can actually handle 25+ touches a game.

Who's he? Ware? Bradshaw? Moreno?Sorry, Bradshaw.

 

[identikit]

I'm just amazed at how someone can be a homerun threat when running a 4.61 forty.

Oh, my bad. This isn't the Moreno thread.

There is football speed and then there is timed speed in an ideal situation, without pads, on a track.Bradshaw has homerun ability. He also runs alot bigger than his size--arm tackles don't bring him down. Anything can happen but I will be surprised if Bradshaw doesn't take over Ward's role, and some. He can catch and run after the catch, which makes him a good complement to Brandon Jacobs.

I see a lot of the same in him. I was very surprised with more field time how scrappy he was. He has very deceptive power, he will muscle you for a few extra yards and can catch. Personally, I think he can be a 1000 yard rusher in full-time duty, the only question is if he can actually handle 25+ touches a game.

Who's he? Ware? Bradshaw? Moreno?Sorry, Bradshaw.

agree

 

[Matt Waldman]

Ware always had the physical skill to be a good runner at any level. He dropped for a number of reasons:

Injuries: He missed time with assorted dings. None of them were major but in a three-headed backfield of talented players like Thomas Brown and Kregg Lumpkin, you lose chances to establish yourself as the bell cow back.

Raw knowledge of his position: This is fairly common for young athletic backs, but of the three backs I mentioned above, Ware had the worst vision. It doesn't mean is vision was really bad, just not as good as the other two. He lacked the refined skill of knowing when to hit the hole hard and when to be more patient.

Immaturity: I'm not talking about getting arrested for public intoxication in Athens. It's a party every weekend here and he probably stuck out like a sore thumb with whatever he was doing. The real issue was his work ethic. He went away to a training facility the summer before he declared for the NFL draft and he came back in worse shape than when he left. The reason according to the UGA trainer I knew was that Ware went to a facility where he was supposed to do his own thing and wasn't pushed much. He made that choice and it backfired.

Ware left early because he probably saw the writing on the wall that he would be sitting behind a back like Moreno and the college life wasn't something he was very good at.

Between Ware and Bradshaw, I think they could do an adequate job if Jacobs gets hurt again. I think the Ward comparison is pretty good for Ware, although I think Ward is what the Giants hope Ware can aspire to from the standpoint of maturity as a runner. He's not there yet, but if he arrives he has more physical talent.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I really hope Ware catches on....I just traded Jerod Mayo for Ware and a 09 4th. Im studded out at LB but I REALLY need him or P Thomas or L Washington to jump on this year....heres to hoping and praying...

Oof.

 

[Mikey16x]

I really hope Ware catches on....I just traded Jerod Mayo for Ware and a 09 4th. Im studded out at LB but I REALLY need him or P Thomas or L Washington to jump on this year....heres to hoping and praying...

Oof.

Well with the current WR's and QB's on the Jets roster it looks as if Leon Washington is going to get his fair share of carries this season. I highly doubt Rex Ryan is planning to run a passing offense. It's Clemons, Ratliff probably looking as the favorite throwing to Cotchery (the only proven starter), Clowney, Stuckey and Keller. Unless they make some substantial changes and IMO adding Torry Holt won't really be that substantial considering he will be seeing the same amount of double teams he did in St. Louis with that core of receivers. Looks like T Jones and Leon Washington will be seeing a lot of work this season as well as a healthy amount of 8 men in the box.